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Report: MBIII out 1-2 weeks with quad strain (1 Viewer)

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Report: MBIII out 1-2 weeks with quad strain

Newy Scruggs of NBC 5 in Dallas-Ft. Worth is reporting that Marion Barber's quadriceps injury will keep him out of action for one to two weeks.

Scruggs has team connections as a local sports anchor who hosts a radio show on the Cowboys station. The 1-2 week timetable has not been reported elsewhere, though, so it's far from concrete. If true, expect Felix Jones to start and split carries with Tashard Choice against the Panthers this week. Both backs would be worth using as flex plays against Carolina's struggling run defense. Sep. 22 - 1:52 pm et

Source: NBC 5 Dallas-Ft. Worth

 
This thread is giving actual information about how long he's out. It's well worth its own thread. Thanks, Hoss.

 
This thread is giving actual information about how long he's out. It's well worth its own thread. Thanks, Hoss.
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...&p=10853608
Yes, I saw that. Not everyone is going to dig through that mess to find this actual nugget. Most of that thread is a giant pissing match.

This thread was a good idea, and the mods encourage new threads like this. If you don't like it, skip it.
I agree. Appreciate not having to scroll through 300 posts to find a relevant update.
 
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Updated: September 22, 2009, 5:08 PM ET

Source: Barber '50-50'

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Nursing a strained quadriceps muscle in his left leg, Dallas Cowboys running back Marion Barber is "50-50" to play against the Panthers on Monday, a league source told ESPN.com on Tuesday.

An MRI taken Monday morning confirmed the strain. Coach Wade Phillips said the Cowboys would have to "wait and see on that" when asked about Barber's status during Monday's news conference. The Cowboys will see how Barber's quad responds to treatment over the next few days and then make a decision.

Television station KXAS-TV in Dallas-Fort Worth cited anonymous sources in reporting on Tuesday that Barber will miss one to two weeks.

Having one extra day certainly helps the running back's situation. But if Barber, who ran for 124 yards on 18 carries Sunday against the Giants, isn't ready to go, second-year player Tashard Choice will take on a larger role on the offense. When Barber and Julius Jones were out with injuries last December, Choice stepped in and made a very favorable impression.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones questioned Barber's toughness when he was injured last December, which seemed completely out of place for one of the most punishing runners in the league. Jones attempted to retract his comments later, but it still made for a bizarre situation.
 
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Updated: September 22, 2009, 5:08 PM ET

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Nursing a strained quadriceps muscle in his left leg, Dallas Cowboys running back Marion Barber is "50-50" to play against the Panthers on Monday, a league source told ESPN.com on Tuesday.

An MRI taken Monday morning confirmed the strain. Coach Wade Phillips said the Cowboys would have to "wait and see on that" when asked about Barber's status during Monday's news conference. The Cowboys will see how Barber's quad responds to treatment over the next few days and then make a decision.

Television station KXAS-TV in Dallas-Fort Worth cited anonymous sources in reporting on Tuesday that Barber will miss one to two weeks.

Having one extra day certainly helps the running back's situation. But if Barber, who ran for 124 yards on 18 carries Sunday against the Giants, isn't ready to go, second-year player Tashard Choice will take on a larger role on the offense. When Barber and Julius Jones were out with injuries last December, Choice stepped in and made a very favorable impression.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones questioned Barber's toughness when he was injured last December, which seemed completely out of place for one of the most punishing runners in the league. Jones attempted to retract his comments later, but it still made for a bizarre situation.
Just bring in Marion for goalline carries...fine by me... :pics:
 
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Updated: September 22, 2009, 5:08 PM ET

Source: Barber '50-50'

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Nursing a strained quadriceps muscle in his left leg, Dallas Cowboys running back Marion Barber is "50-50" to play against the Panthers on Monday, a league source told ESPN.com on Tuesday.

An MRI taken Monday morning confirmed the strain. Coach Wade Phillips said the Cowboys would have to "wait and see on that" when asked about Barber's status during Monday's news conference. The Cowboys will see how Barber's quad responds to treatment over the next few days and then make a decision.

Television station KXAS-TV in Dallas-Fort Worth cited anonymous sources in reporting on Tuesday that Barber will miss one to two weeks.

Having one extra day certainly helps the running back's situation. But if Barber, who ran for 124 yards on 18 carries Sunday against the Giants, isn't ready to go, second-year player Tashard Choice will take on a larger role on the offense. When Barber and Julius Jones were out with injuries last December, Choice stepped in and made a very favorable impression.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones questioned Barber's toughness when he was injured last December, which seemed completely out of place for one of the most punishing runners in the league. Jones attempted to retract his comments later, but it still made for a bizarre situation.
This information is still speculation at best. The Cowboys have not realeased any OFFICIAL timetable of how long hes out. The only thing they have said is that the MRI confirmed that it's a sprained quad... Anonymous sources! HA!edit: the ESPN link provided has been updated since then stating that Barber still hopes to play monday against carolina lol... it just odd that only one random Dallas news station has the inside information that hes out 1-2 weeks, but no one else has any dates/timeframe. i'd say we're gonna wait until sunday/monday at the earliest to find out anything definitive.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlines

 
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Updated: September 22, 2009, 5:08 PM ET

Source: Barber '50-50'

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Nursing a strained quadriceps muscle in his left leg, Dallas Cowboys running back Marion Barber is "50-50" to play against the Panthers on Monday, a league source told ESPN.com on Tuesday.

An MRI taken Monday morning confirmed the strain. Coach Wade Phillips said the Cowboys would have to "wait and see on that" when asked about Barber's status during Monday's news conference. The Cowboys will see how Barber's quad responds to treatment over the next few days and then make a decision.

Television station KXAS-TV in Dallas-Fort Worth cited anonymous sources in reporting on Tuesday that Barber will miss one to two weeks.

Having one extra day certainly helps the running back's situation. But if Barber, who ran for 124 yards on 18 carries Sunday against the Giants, isn't ready to go, second-year player Tashard Choice will take on a larger role on the offense. When Barber and Julius Jones were out with injuries last December, Choice stepped in and made a very favorable impression.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones questioned Barber's toughness when he was injured last December, which seemed completely out of place for one of the most punishing runners in the league. Jones attempted to retract his comments later, but it still made for a bizarre situation.
This information is still speculation at best. The Cowboys have not realeased any OFFICIAL timetable of how long hes out. The only thing they have said is that the MRI confirmed that it's a sprained quad... Anonymous sources! HA!edit: the ESPN link provided has been updated since then stating that Barber still hopes to play monday against carolina lol... it just odd that only one random Dallas news station has the inside information that hes out 1-2 weeks, but no one else has any dates/timeframe. i'd say we're gonna wait until sunday/monday at the earliest to find out anything definitive.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlines
Werdnoynek, let me enlighten you here a bit.First of all, Newy Scruggs is the lead sports anchor here at Dallas/Ft. Worth's NBC affiliate while also holding down a radio show for the Cowboys flagship radio station. He has numerous connections within the Cowboys organization. He also has his own show on NBC on Sunday nights in tandem with former Cowboys great Drew Pearson. Scruggs has some skins on the wall.

Secondly, if you are relying on ESPN, you are way behind in the times. Generally, ESPN is about 24 hours behind in reporting the same news you'll find with FBGs or what is brought to this board.

For a newbie you are certainly spouting off quite a bit. You may want to think a little longer before you post.

Now as far as Barber goes, most on this board are well aware of how closely I follow the Cowboys and sources I have myself here and there. Those that follow the Cowboys thread can attest to that. At this point, you can figure on Barber missing two weeks. Things could change, but he will definitely be out Monday night at the very least.

 
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Updated: September 22, 2009, 5:08 PM ET

Source: Barber '50-50'

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Nursing a strained quadriceps muscle in his left leg, Dallas Cowboys running back Marion Barber is "50-50" to play against the Panthers on Monday, a league source told ESPN.com on Tuesday.

An MRI taken Monday morning confirmed the strain. Coach Wade Phillips said the Cowboys would have to "wait and see on that" when asked about Barber's status during Monday's news conference. The Cowboys will see how Barber's quad responds to treatment over the next few days and then make a decision.

Television station KXAS-TV in Dallas-Fort Worth cited anonymous sources in reporting on Tuesday that Barber will miss one to two weeks.

Having one extra day certainly helps the running back's situation. But if Barber, who ran for 124 yards on 18 carries Sunday against the Giants, isn't ready to go, second-year player Tashard Choice will take on a larger role on the offense. When Barber and Julius Jones were out with injuries last December, Choice stepped in and made a very favorable impression.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones questioned Barber's toughness when he was injured last December, which seemed completely out of place for one of the most punishing runners in the league. Jones attempted to retract his comments later, but it still made for a bizarre situation.
This information is still speculation at best. The Cowboys have not realeased any OFFICIAL timetable of how long hes out. The only thing they have said is that the MRI confirmed that it's a sprained quad... Anonymous sources! HA!edit: the ESPN link provided has been updated since then stating that Barber still hopes to play monday against carolina lol... it just odd that only one random Dallas news station has the inside information that hes out 1-2 weeks, but no one else has any dates/timeframe. i'd say we're gonna wait until sunday/monday at the earliest to find out anything definitive.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlines
Werdnoynek, let me enlighten you here a bit.First of all, Newy Scruggs is the lead sports anchor here at Dallas/Ft. Worth's NBC affiliate while also holding down a radio show for the Cowboys flagship radio station. He has numerous connections within the Cowboys organization. He also has his own show on NBC on Sunday nights in tandem with former Cowboys great Drew Pearson. Scruggs has some skins on the wall.

Secondly, if you are relying on ESPN, you are way behind in the times. Generally, ESPN is about 24 hours behind in reporting the same news you'll find with FBGs or what is brought to this board.

For a newbie you are certainly spouting off quite a bit. You may want to think a little longer before you post.

Now as far as Barber goes, most on this board are well aware of how closely I follow the Cowboys and sources I have myself here and there. Those that follow the Cowboys thread can attest to that. At this point, you can figure on Barber missing two weeks. Things could change, but he will definitely be out Monday night at the very least.
Andy, thx for the info. I was doing research and my wife, who is a orthopedic surgeon, helped me understand more of this injury. Torn ligaments and tendons require as long to heal as fractured bones do.

The average healing times are:

(1) mild strain - 2 to 10 days

(2) moderate strain - 10 days to 6 weeks

(3) severe strain - 6 to 10 weeks.(From the reaction he had Sun. night, I have to concur with this diagnosis.)

The complications listed above are more likely to occur in the case of repeated injuries.

I am wondering if its more serious then what the Cowboys are leading us to believe? SJax had a similar injury and was out for 6 games. The way Marion hit the turf after grasping his leg, shows that this isn't just a minor injury.

Some possible complications can be:

(1) prolonged healing time if activity is resumed too soon

(2) proneness to repeated injury

(3) Loss of the ability to quickly accelerate and decelerate

(4) inflammation at the attachment to bone (periostitis); or prolonged disability (weakness). With a first-time injury, proper care and sufficient healing time before resuming activity should prevent permanent disability.

 
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Report: MBIII hoping to play versus Panthers

According to ESPN.com's Matt Mosley, Marion Barber (quadriceps) still hopes to play against the Panthers after receiving treatment Tuesday morning.

KXAS-TV had reported that Barber will miss 1-2 weeks, but they were only the ones reporting that timeline. ESPN's Ed Werder, who has ties to the Cowboys organization, calls Barber "day to day." The decision on Barber's Week 3 status may go down to the wire on Monday, so fantasy owners should pursue alternatives. Sep. 22 - 6:06 pm et

Source: ESPN.com

 
Playing him this week could possably be the most moronic call I have ever heard. Sure I'm a Felix owner but cmon, be realistic.

 
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Updated: September 22, 2009, 5:08 PM ET

Source: Barber '50-50'

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By Matt Mosley

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Nursing a strained quadriceps muscle in his left leg, Dallas Cowboys running back Marion Barber is "50-50" to play against the Panthers on Monday, a league source told ESPN.com on Tuesday.

An MRI taken Monday morning confirmed the strain. Coach Wade Phillips said the Cowboys would have to "wait and see on that" when asked about Barber's status during Monday's news conference. The Cowboys will see how Barber's quad responds to treatment over the next few days and then make a decision.

Television station KXAS-TV in Dallas-Fort Worth cited anonymous sources in reporting on Tuesday that Barber will miss one to two weeks.

Having one extra day certainly helps the running back's situation. But if Barber, who ran for 124 yards on 18 carries Sunday against the Giants, isn't ready to go, second-year player Tashard Choice will take on a larger role on the offense. When Barber and Julius Jones were out with injuries last December, Choice stepped in and made a very favorable impression.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones questioned Barber's toughness when he was injured last December, which seemed completely out of place for one of the most punishing runners in the league. Jones attempted to retract his comments later, but it still made for a bizarre situation.
This information is still speculation at best. The Cowboys have not realeased any OFFICIAL timetable of how long hes out. The only thing they have said is that the MRI confirmed that it's a sprained quad... Anonymous sources! HA!edit: the ESPN link provided has been updated since then stating that Barber still hopes to play monday against carolina lol... it just odd that only one random Dallas news station has the inside information that hes out 1-2 weeks, but no one else has any dates/timeframe. i'd say we're gonna wait until sunday/monday at the earliest to find out anything definitive.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlines
Werdnoynek, let me enlighten you here a bit.First of all, Newy Scruggs is the lead sports anchor here at Dallas/Ft. Worth's NBC affiliate while also holding down a radio show for the Cowboys flagship radio station. He has numerous connections within the Cowboys organization. He also has his own show on NBC on Sunday nights in tandem with former Cowboys great Drew Pearson. Scruggs has some skins on the wall.

Secondly, if you are relying on ESPN, you are way behind in the times. Generally, ESPN is about 24 hours behind in reporting the same news you'll find with FBGs or what is brought to this board.

For a newbie you are certainly spouting off quite a bit. You may want to think a little longer before you post.

Now as far as Barber goes, most on this board are well aware of how closely I follow the Cowboys and sources I have myself here and there. Those that follow the Cowboys thread can attest to that. At this point, you can figure on Barber missing two weeks. Things could change, but he will definitely be out Monday night at the very least.
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Updated: September 22, 2009, 5:08 PM ET

Source: Barber '50-50'

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Nursing a strained quadriceps muscle in his left leg, Dallas Cowboys running back Marion Barber is "50-50" to play against the Panthers on Monday, a league source told ESPN.com on Tuesday.

An MRI taken Monday morning confirmed the strain. Coach Wade Phillips said the Cowboys would have to "wait and see on that" when asked about Barber's status during Monday's news conference. The Cowboys will see how Barber's quad responds to treatment over the next few days and then make a decision.

Television station KXAS-TV in Dallas-Fort Worth cited anonymous sources in reporting on Tuesday that Barber will miss one to two weeks.

Having one extra day certainly helps the running back's situation. But if Barber, who ran for 124 yards on 18 carries Sunday against the Giants, isn't ready to go, second-year player Tashard Choice will take on a larger role on the offense. When Barber and Julius Jones were out with injuries last December, Choice stepped in and made a very favorable impression.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones questioned Barber's toughness when he was injured last December, which seemed completely out of place for one of the most punishing runners in the league. Jones attempted to retract his comments later, but it still made for a bizarre situation.
This information is still speculation at best. The Cowboys have not realeased any OFFICIAL timetable of how long hes out. The only thing they have said is that the MRI confirmed that it's a sprained quad... Anonymous sources! HA!edit: the ESPN link provided has been updated since then stating that Barber still hopes to play monday against carolina lol... it just odd that only one random Dallas news station has the inside information that hes out 1-2 weeks, but no one else has any dates/timeframe. i'd say we're gonna wait until sunday/monday at the earliest to find out anything definitive.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?i...ce=NFLHeadlines
Werdnoynek, let me enlighten you here a bit.First of all, Newy Scruggs is the lead sports anchor here at Dallas/Ft. Worth's NBC affiliate while also holding down a radio show for the Cowboys flagship radio station. He has numerous connections within the Cowboys organization. He also has his own show on NBC on Sunday nights in tandem with former Cowboys great Drew Pearson. Scruggs has some skins on the wall.

Secondly, if you are relying on ESPN, you are way behind in the times. Generally, ESPN is about 24 hours behind in reporting the same news you'll find with FBGs or what is brought to this board.

For a newbie you are certainly spouting off quite a bit. You may want to think a little longer before you post.

Now as far as Barber goes, most on this board are well aware of how closely I follow the Cowboys and sources I have myself here and there. Those that follow the Cowboys thread can attest to that. At this point, you can figure on Barber missing two weeks. Things could change, but he will definitely be out Monday night at the very least.
Andy, thx for the info. I was doing research and my wife, who is a orthopedic surgeon, helped me understand more of this injury. Torn ligaments and tendons require as long to heal as fractured bones do.

The average healing times are:

(1) mild strain - 2 to 10 days

(2) moderate strain - 10 days to 6 weeks

(3) severe strain - 6 to 10 weeks.(From the reaction he had Sun. night, I have to concur with this diagnosis.)

The complications listed above are more likely to occur in the case of repeated injuries.

I am wondering if its more serious then what the Cowboys are leading us to believe? SJax had a similar injury and was out for 6 games. The way Marion hit the turf after grasping his leg, shows that this isn't just a minor injury.

Some possible complications can be:

(1) prolonged healing time if activity is resumed too soon

(2) proneness to repeated injury

(3) Loss of the ability to quickly accelerate and decelerate

(4) inflammation at the attachment to bone (periostitis); or prolonged disability (weakness). With a first-time injury, proper care and sufficient healing time before resuming activity should prevent permanent disability.
Barber has an injury to his MUSCLE. The times you listed are related to connective tissue injuries which are different.
 
as a barber owner, i'm actually hoping they sit him this week so that A. he doesn't risk aggravating it and having a season-long SJAX-type ordeal and B. so he can be ready to go for the cupcake defenses he has the following two weeks

 
Report: MBIII hoping to play versus Panthers

According to ESPN.com's Matt Mosley, Marion Barber (quadriceps) still hopes to play against the Panthers after receiving treatment Tuesday morning.

KXAS-TV had reported that Barber will miss 1-2 weeks, but they were only the ones reporting that timeline. ESPN's Ed Werder, who has ties to the Cowboys organization, calls Barber "day to day." The decision on Barber's Week 3 status may go down to the wire on Monday, so fantasy owners should pursue alternatives. Sep. 22 - 6:06 pm et

Source: ESPN.com
I'm very familiar with Matt Mosley. He'd been here with The Dallas Morning News for several years before moving on to ESPN. I know he still has good ties here. Ed Werder? Not so much. He is a bum.

Overall, ESPN is the same institute that reported last week that McNabb was day-to-day. The guy was inactive on Sunday and didn't even dress. Just as I warned everybody in last week's "McNabb" thread. http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=490213

But McNabb said he "felt great!" Right?

Just sayin'

 
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Report: MBIII hoping to play versus Panthers According to ESPN.com's Matt Mosley, Marion Barber (quadriceps) still hopes to play against the Panthers after receiving treatment Tuesday morning.KXAS-TV had reported that Barber will miss 1-2 weeks, but they were only the ones reporting that timeline. ESPN's Ed Werder, who has ties to the Cowboys organization, calls Barber "day to day." The decision on Barber's Week 3 status may go down to the wire on Monday, so fantasy owners should pursue alternatives. Sep. 22 - 6:06 pm etSource: ESPN.com
of course he hopes to play, what player doesnt hope to play
 
Report: MBIII hoping to play versus Panthers

According to ESPN.com's Matt Mosley, Marion Barber (quadriceps) still hopes to play against the Panthers after receiving treatment Tuesday morning.

KXAS-TV had reported that Barber will miss 1-2 weeks, but they were only the ones reporting that timeline. ESPN's Ed Werder, who has ties to the Cowboys organization, calls Barber "day to day." The decision on Barber's Week 3 status may go down to the wire on Monday, so fantasy owners should pursue alternatives. Sep. 22 - 6:06 pm et

Source: ESPN.com
of course he hopes to play, what player doesnt hope to play
I'm hoping to play QB for the Colts this week.Seriously though, the Cowboys are one of the deepest teams in the league at this position and it's only week 3. You have to let Barber heal right instead of risking aggravating something that could linger IMO.

 
Tashard Choice = Sharky
Per Choice he won't get the bulk of the carries:
"I'll be ready," Choice said. "Whatever chance I get, I have to make the most of. You know those guys are going to get the bulk of the carries. I just hate the fact that I have to play when another dude goes down. I'd rather play with those guys."
 
Tashard Choice = Sharky
Per Choice he won't get the bulk of the carries:
"I'll be ready," Choice said. "Whatever chance I get, I have to make the most of. You know those guys are going to get the bulk of the carries. I just hate the fact that I have to play when another dude goes down. I'd rather play with those guys."
Isn't Choice talking about when both MBIII and Felix Jones are healthy in that quote?
 
Tashard Choice = Sharky
Per Choice he won't get the bulk of the carries:
"I'll be ready," Choice said. "Whatever chance I get, I have to make the most of. You know those guys are going to get the bulk of the carries. I just hate the fact that I have to play when another dude goes down. I'd rather play with those guys."
Isn't Choice talking about when both MBIII and Felix Jones are healthy in that quote?
It was in respects to whether he was going to get to play more now that Barber was out. He acknowledged he only gets to play if another guy is injured. But it's still telling that he didn't say Barber was going to get the bulk, he said those guys, referring to Barber AND Jones. It just reiterates the RB pecking order we've seen all along. Barber > Jones > Choice.With Barber out, that order won't change.

 
Tashard Choice = Sharky
Per Choice he won't get the bulk of the carries:
"I'll be ready," Choice said. "Whatever chance I get, I have to make the most of. You know those guys are going to get the bulk of the carries. I just hate the fact that I have to play when another dude goes down. I'd rather play with those guys."
Isn't Choice talking about when both MBIII and Felix Jones are healthy in that quote?
It was in respects to whether he was going to get to play more now that Barber was out. He acknowledged he only gets to play if another guy is injured. But it's still telling that he didn't say Barber was going to get the bulk, he said those guys, referring to Barber AND Jones. It just reiterates the RB pecking order we've seen all along. Barber > Jones > Choice.With Barber out, that order won't change.
he's not the coach and can't call his own number. Only the coach knows who is going to get carries in what situations. More info will come out as the week goes on but I'm sure it still won't be definitive one way or the other. Why would Dallas tip their hand? Why would they say on Tuesday, well, Barber is definitely out so scratch him off your list so this week we're going to get give Jones 15 carries on 1st and 2nd downs and then we'll bring in Choice on 3rd downs and give him 6-8 carries and all goal line looks? Who does that benefit? Surely not the Cowboys. Everything is pure speculation because this situation with these players has never occured before and you nor the Dallas beat writers know what will happen.
 
Anyone who thinks it wont be a fairly even split is kidding themselves. If I had to guess 60/40 favoring Felix at best.

 
Tashard Choice = Sharky
Per Choice he won't get the bulk of the carries:
"I'll be ready," Choice said. "Whatever chance I get, I have to make the most of. You know those guys are going to get the bulk of the carries. I just hate the fact that I have to play when another dude goes down. I'd rather play with those guys."
Isn't Choice talking about when both MBIII and Felix Jones are healthy in that quote?
It was in respects to whether he was going to get to play more now that Barber was out. He acknowledged he only gets to play if another guy is injured. But it's still telling that he didn't say Barber was going to get the bulk, he said those guys, referring to Barber AND Jones. It just reiterates the RB pecking order we've seen all along. Barber > Jones > Choice.With Barber out, that order won't change.
Choice backs up Barber's position. The split will be 70-80% Choice. Let's agree to revisit this after the game.
 
Choice backs up Barber's position. The split will be 70-80% Choice. Let's agree to revisit this after the game.
Backing up the position has nothing to do with number of carries Choice will get. It's a fact that Dallas will use Jones more than a 3rd down back, so one can't assume he won't get at least a 50/50 split.
 
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Choice backs up Barber's position. The split will be 70-80% Choice. Let's agree to revisit this after the game.

who came in on the very next play after Barber went down and scored on a 7 yard run? Hint: wasn't Choice

 
Per Choice he will assume Barber's role in the offense:

"I'll be ready," Choice said. "Whatever chance I get, I have to make the most of. You know those guys are going to get the bulk of the carries. I just hate the fact that I have to play when another dude goes down. I'd rather play with those guys."
Two can play at Spin The Quote.
 
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Per Choice he will assume Barber's role in the offense:

"I'll be ready," Choice said. "Whatever chance I get, I have to make the most of. You know those guys are going to get the bulk of the carries. I just hate the fact that I have to play when another dude goes down. I'd rather play with those guys."
Two can play at Spin The Quote.
Actually, he doesn't say anything close to what you imply. He just says he has to play, not how much, not shoulder the load, nothing close to it.On the other hand, he clearly said Barber AND Jones will get the bulk of the carries. There's no spin on that at all.

I'm with the poster a few posts up - let's just wait to see how it plays out.

 
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Per Choice he will assume Barber's role in the offense:

"I'll be ready," Choice said. "Whatever chance I get, I have to make the most of. You know those guys are going to get the bulk of the carries. I just hate the fact that I have to play when another dude goes down. I'd rather play with those guys."
Two can play at Spin The Quote.
Actually, he doesn't say anything close to what you imply. He just says he has to play, not how much, not shoulder the load, nothing close to it.On the other hand, he clearly said Barber AND Jones will get the bulk of the carries. There's no spin on that at all.

I'm with the poster a few posts up - let's just wait to see how it plays out.
Yep he said Barber and Jones will get the bulk of the carries. Obviously that assumes both are healthy, which of course they're not.So your use of his quote to try and support your Jones>Choice premise is another example of pure switzspin.

 
Per Choice he will assume Barber's role in the offense:

"I'll be ready," Choice said. "Whatever chance I get, I have to make the most of. You know those guys are going to get the bulk of the carries. I just hate the fact that I have to play when another dude goes down. I'd rather play with those guys."
Two can play at Spin The Quote.
Actually, he doesn't say anything close to what you imply. He just says he has to play, not how much, not shoulder the load, nothing close to it.On the other hand, he clearly said Barber AND Jones will get the bulk of the carries. There's no spin on that at all.

I'm with the poster a few posts up - let's just wait to see how it plays out.
Yep he said Barber and Jones will get the bulk of the carries. Obviously that assumes both are healthy, which of course they're not.So your use of his quote to try and support your Jones>Choice premise is another example of pure switzspin.
I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you. You obviously have no desire to look at things objectively.
 
LOL you took a quote in which Choice describes the Cowboys' situation when all three RBs are healthy, and from it concluded that Choice "won't get the bulk of the carries" if/when Barber's *not* healthy, and "with Barber out, that order won't change."

Neither of those conclusions follows from the quote you supplied. Not even remotely.

So don't go playing the "I'm objective and you're not" card here pal. In fact the notion that your take on Jones is objective is comical in and of itself.

 
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LOL you took a quote in which Choice describes the Cowboys' situation when all three RBs are healthy, and from it concluded that Choice "won't get the bulk of the carries" if/when Barber's *not* healthy, and "with Barber out, that order won't change."Neither of those conclusions follows from the quote you supplied. Not even remotely.So don't go playing the "I'm objective and you're not" card here pal. In fact the notion that your take on Jones is objective is comical in and of itself.
You take over for awhile, He make me tard.
 
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LOL you took a quote in which Choice describes the Cowboys' situation when all three RBs are healthy, and from it concluded that Choice "won't get the bulk of the carries" if/when Barber's *not* healthy, and "with Barber out, that order won't change."Neither of those conclusions follows from the quote you supplied. Not even remotely.So don't go playing the "I'm objective and you're not" card here pal. In fact the notion that your take on Jones is objective is comical in and of itself.
The quote was actually from yesterday and in reference to Barber being hurt now, which is why he said he'd get to play now. His statement about who gets the bulk of carries - no pun intended - carries more weight than anything else. Especially added to how the RBs have been used.Take the team and payers out of the situation:RB C says RBs A & B get the bulk, and he only plays when one of them gets hurt. Which RB do you think sees the bulk then? The RB that barely plays? Objectively you have to think that RB A or B, whichever is still healthy would play more.Like I said earlier, let's wait to see it play out.
 
LOL you took a quote in which Choice describes the Cowboys' situation when all three RBs are healthy, and from it concluded that Choice "won't get the bulk of the carries" if/when Barber's *not* healthy, and "with Barber out, that order won't change."

Neither of those conclusions follows from the quote you supplied. Not even remotely.

So don't go playing the "I'm objective and you're not" card here pal. In fact the notion that your take on Jones is objective is comical in and of itself.
The quote was actually from yesterday and in reference to Barber being hurt now, which is why he said he'd get to play now. His statement about who gets the bulk of carries - no pun intended - carries more weight than anything else. Especially added to how the RBs have been used.Take the team and payers out of the situation:

RB C says RBs A & B get the bulk, and he only plays when one of them gets hurt. Which RB do you think sees the bulk then? The RB that barely plays? Objectively you have to think that RB A or B, whichever is still healthy would play more.

Like I said earlier, let's wait to see it play out.
That's only one of a few plausible scenarios though.Another is, C takes A's role, and B's role remains unchanged (or only mildly increased). I made that point earlier using NO as an example, but you got all tangled up focusing on how Jones isn't Reggie Bush, which of course misses the point.

All it would take is for the Cowboys coaches to think Choice is better suited than Jones to being a between-the-tackles pounder, and voila, Choice stands to get more carries than Jones. (I don't know that they do feel this way, but it's very easy to imagine why they might: Choice did just that with great success late last year, and Jones hasn't, neither in the NFL nor in college.)

 
Through all of this Felix is the only one I would start this week. MB3 and Choice are to be avoided, which makes Choice almost worthless to own unless ur in a deep league.

 
LOL you took a quote in which Choice describes the Cowboys' situation when all three RBs are healthy, and from it concluded that Choice "won't get the bulk of the carries" if/when Barber's *not* healthy, and "with Barber out, that order won't change."

Neither of those conclusions follows from the quote you supplied. Not even remotely.

So don't go playing the "I'm objective and you're not" card here pal. In fact the notion that your take on Jones is objective is comical in and of itself.
The quote was actually from yesterday and in reference to Barber being hurt now, which is why he said he'd get to play now. His statement about who gets the bulk of carries - no pun intended - carries more weight than anything else. Especially added to how the RBs have been used.Take the team and payers out of the situation:

RB C says RBs A & B get the bulk, and he only plays when one of them gets hurt. Which RB do you think sees the bulk then? The RB that barely plays? Objectively you have to think that RB A or B, whichever is still healthy would play more.

Like I said earlier, let's wait to see it play out.
That's only one of a few plausible scenarios though.Another is, C takes A's role, and B's role remains unchanged (or only mildly increased). I made that point earlier using NO as an example, but you got all tangled up focusing on how Jones isn't Reggie Bush, which of course misses the point.

All it would take is for the Cowboys coaches to think Choice is better suited than Jones to being a between-the-tackles pounder, and voila, Choice stands to get more carries than Jones. (I don't know that they do feel this way, but it's very easy to imagine why they might: Choice did just that with great success late last year, and Jones hasn't, neither in the NFL nor in college.)
Dont tell that to Jerry Jones.
 

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