What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Republican Tom Marino angers Nancy Pelosi (1 Viewer)

Gordang

Footballguy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzFRMWB2n6E

VIDEO: Nancy Pelosi Goes Berserk! Tries to Chase Down Congressman on House Floor!
Congressman Tom Marino apparently struck a nerve with San Francisco Democrat Nancy Pelosi on the House floor on Friday, and it was enough to make the former Speaker lose it.
In debating the border crisis issue, Rep. Marino (R-PA), pointed out the obvious that Democrats had the presidency, and majorities in both the House and Senate, knew about the upcoming border crisis, and chose to do nothing about it.

“Amazing, that they say ‘because the president would not sign this bill, and because the Senate would not pass this bill’–they’re right, the Senate wouldn’t pass it,” Marino agreed. “There are hundreds of bills on Harry Reid’s desk that he will not bring to the floor for a vote. And certainly the president would not encourage that to be done,” he charged.

“But we are doing our job here in the House. We put a lot of time and effort in this. We looked at this law and we realized what hadb to be done. I come from a law-and-order background. And we don’t have law and order. We have distrust,” Rep. Marino contended.

Then Marino dropped the bombshell that more than likely lit a fuse under the volatile Marxist congresswoman:

“We have gangs coming across, we have drugs coming across the southern border and my colleagues on the other side don’t want to do anything about it. You know something I find quite interesting about the other side? Under the leadership of the former Speaker [of the House, Nancy Pelosi], and under the leadership of their former leader, when in 2009 and 2010, they had the House, the Senate, and the White House, and they knew this problem existed. They didn’t have the strength to go after it back then, but now are trying to make a political issue out of it now.”

Like a crazed lunatic, Pelosi (1:58 mark) bolted from her chair to literally run through the aisles, trying to find the congressman following his floor comments. You can hear her in the background growling, “Where is he?” (2:15 mark)
 
Wonder which lunatic website gordong got that one from. Typical fringe (tea party, stormfront) results come up on a search.

 
Today is the FFA's lucky day! I jave split personalities (one Democrat, one Republican) and I'm off my meds!

CCC2(R ): Look at that crazy broad!

CCC2(D): Way to stand up for yourself, Nance!

 
Last edited by a moderator:
brohans i will never forget when marino was really not able to move anymore he could hardly even run at the end but that guy would drop back and bam he would still chuck the old football around like it was going out of style and then after that he sold gloves and made those gloves some of the coolest things ever you pretty much just had to have them and hey he threw the ball to a brohan named super duper so yeah he got the better of nancy but hey he is dan the man so of course he did take that to the bank brohans

 
brohans i will never forget when marino was really not able to move anymore he could hardly even run at the end but that guy would drop back and bam he would still chuck the old football around like it was going out of style and then after that he sold gloves and made those gloves some of the coolest things ever you pretty much just had to have them and hey he threw the ball to a brohan named super duper so yeah he got the better of nancy but hey he is dan the man so of course he did take that to the bank brohans
All very true.

 
brohans i will never forget when marino was really not able to move anymore he could hardly even run at the end but that guy would drop back and bam he would still chuck the old football around like it was going out of style and then after that he sold gloves and made those gloves some of the coolest things ever you pretty much just had to have them and hey he threw the ball to a brohan named super duper so yeah he got the better of nancy but hey he is dan the man so of course he did take that to the bank brohans
All very true.
Absolutely... every word of it. I still don't know how he made those gloves cool.

 
brohans i will never forget when marino was really not able to move anymore he could hardly even run at the end but that guy would drop back and bam he would still chuck the old football around like it was going out of style and then after that he sold gloves and made those gloves some of the coolest things ever you pretty much just had to have them and hey he threw the ball to a brohan named super duper so yeah he got the better of nancy but hey he is dan the man so of course he did take that to the bank brohans
All very true.
Absolutely... every word of it. I still don't know how he made those gloves cool.
Isotoner gloves. Still remember the ads. Have owned a pair or two over the years as well.

 
Pelosi is pretty terrible. She was on The Colbert Report a few weeks back, and it was hilarious cause Colbert was being his usual sarcastic, jokey self, which you could tell was distracting her from spitting out the talking points she had prepared. I mean, who goes on Colbert or The Daily Show with talking points and not expecting to joke around a little? :lol:

 
Typical Lib loving, America hating FFA. Never fails.
I am always amazed how many dumb people there are around to keep voiting her in office. Basically, when you run into someone who thinks she is doing a fantastic job you can pretty much walk away and disregard this guy as a moron. After you punch him in the face anyway.....

 
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Why do people keep referring to Pelosi as incompetent? It couldn't be farther from the truth. You may disagree with her politics, but she was probably the most effective Speaker since Sam Rayburn in terms of getting things done. TARP, Obama's stimulus package, and Obamacare all would have failed under a weaker politician.
 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:

Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Pretty much, yeah.

 
That's right Nancy, when the truth sinks it's fangs in your butt ugly botox-infused ### get up and show your true colors! Thank you Rep. Marino for handing her ### to her.
I have said many times that this is also the best way to beat Hillary Clinton in a presidential debate. I'm sure they are coaching and grooming the hell of her but believe me; all you have to do is tell the truth, call her out on her record (like Tom Marino did here) and get her angry and she'll lose it for sure for the whole world to see! 

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:

Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
:IBTL:

 
That's right Nancy, when the truth sinks it's fangs in your butt ugly botox-infused ### get up and show your true colors! Thank you Rep. Marino for handing her ### to her.

I have said many times that this is also the best way to beat Hillary Clinton in a presidential debate. I'm sure they are coaching and grooming the hell of her but believe me; all you have to do is tell the truth, call her out on her record (like Tom Marino did here) and get her angry and she'll lose it for sure for the whole world to see! 
Hilary could show up for the debate and play Clash of Clans on her Iphone the entire time and still win the presidency. The only way she'll get beat is if the Republicans stop being so republicany.

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
:IBTL:
Yeah that's right, lock what you don't like reading. Typical.
 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:

Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
I just spit my hippie panera soup all over the monitor reading that LOL

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
I just spit my hippie panera soup all over the monitor reading that LOL
Hippie soup can be very tasty if it's cooked right. You seem obsessed with hippies Peens. Are you related to any? My uncle was an original. Dropped out of Berkeley in '68 and went to Nepal to avoid the draft. Came back and grew pot for years in Mendocino County. Now he runs a little bed and breakfast outside of Houston. Very nice guy. Leftist politics though. Cooks a mean veggie burger.

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:

Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
The Establishment is in charge because they can use their power to raise massive amounts of campaign dollars, and people are too apathetic to vote beyond what "their" party tells them.

Good guys don't make millions of dollars in public service.

I'm not sure how you can look at the deficit and claim that they are doing a pretty good job. Plenty of other issues(such as the one on the border brought up in this thread) that are complete disasters because of these people.

Patriots? That's an opinion that's hard to argue for or against, but when they exempt themselves from laws that every other American is subject to, I find it to be an opinion that I disagree with.

Tim, I know that you always like to see both sides of the issues, and you present yourself as the ultimate moderate, and even reverse your position sometimes when presented with certain facts(which is very rare). But the people I mentioned, and many others, are hard line partisan hacks that could give a #### about much more than their position of power and their pensions. The country would be better off without them.

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
:lmao:

 
It's no small feat to start a thread with unsourced cut and paste of an article that refers to the House Minority Leader as a "volatile Marxist" and then go downhill from there, but darn it if the FFA didn't just pull it off. Kudos to all.

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:

Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
The Establishment is in charge because they can use their power to raise massive amounts of campaign dollars, and people are too apathetic to vote beyond what "their" party tells them.

Good guys don't make millions of dollars in public service.

I'm not sure how you can look at the deficit and claim that they are doing a pretty good job. Plenty of other issues(such as the one on the border brought up in this thread) that are complete disasters because of these people.

Patriots? That's an opinion that's hard to argue for or against, but when they exempt themselves from laws that every other American is subject to, I find it to be an opinion that I disagree with.

Tim, I know that you always like to see both sides of the issues, and you present yourself as the ultimate moderate, and even reverse your position sometimes when presented with certain facts(which is very rare). But the people I mentioned, and many others, are hard line partisan hacks that could give a #### about much more than their position of power and their pensions. The country would be better off without them.
First off, I don't consider myself the ultimate anything. I am moderate on some issues, not at all on others. I don't necessarily see extremism as a vice- it depends on the issue. But I don't generally like extremism among American politicians. That to me is very dangerous.

Now you called the 4 guys above "hard line partisan hacks." NONE of them are hardline, by any real definition of the term. In fact, all 4 of them, like most Establishment leaders, are harshly criticized by the grass roots on both sides because they are too willing to compromise. But it is correct to call them partisan. And that is not necessarily a bad thing. More good has been accomplished in this country through partisan effort and struggle than otherwise. To me it's perfectly OK that both political parties are concerned with winning and staying in power. The struggle that ensues makes us stronger- typically. Most of our problems arise when we have people like the Tea Party, or liberal grass roots politicians, who don't give a crap about partisan politics and are willing to risk all to get their agenda pushed through. That's when bad things tend to happen.

 
It's no small feat to start a thread with unsourced cut and paste of an article that refers to the House Minority Leader as a "volatile Marxist" and then go downhill from there, but darn it if the FFA didn't just pull it off. Kudos to all.
Tried to keep it light but it didn't last.

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
I just spit my hippie panera soup all over the monitor reading that LOL
Hippie soup can be very tasty if it's cooked right.You seem obsessed with hippies Peens. Are you related to any? My uncle was an original. Dropped out of Berkeley in '68 and went to Nepal to avoid the draft. Came back and grew pot for years in Mendocino County. Now he runs a little bed and breakfast outside of Houston. Very nice guy. Leftist politics though. Cooks a mean veggie burger.
My family is from southern cal so had plenty....

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
:lmao:
:lmao:

 
I guess this is another worthless alias, who only has me think that whatever he says, the truth must be the opposite. It helps to have those barometers where just by seeing someone say something, you can feel very confident that the opposite is likely reality.

FWIW, I can't stand Pelosi but there's no way reading a thread by this guy after seeing the virulent crap being thrown around in his other thread.

 
brohans i go away for a while and then come back and what is all this i see to my wandering eye does appear but two horrible political aliases and i still have no beer that is a little poem for you guys from me but hey let us get back to the point at topic dan marino is one of the greatest qbs ever that guy could throw the bomb he could shoot a laser to a guy ten feet away and he could even hand the ball off but i do not even know why you would want him to do that i bet you this that if you brought him back today he could probably still be better than blaine grabbert so bam another political riddle solved by the old swcer take that to the bank brochachos

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:

Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
This is some awesome shtick. I don't know what would impress me more, if you actually believed it or if you were just completely a$$hat bicthslapping everyone. I can't tell the difference with you and it's fantastically entertaining.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:

Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
The Establishment is in charge because they can use their power to raise massive amounts of campaign dollars, and people are too apathetic to vote beyond what "their" party tells them.

Good guys don't make millions of dollars in public service.

I'm not sure how you can look at the deficit and claim that they are doing a pretty good job. Plenty of other issues(such as the one on the border brought up in this thread) that are complete disasters because of these people.

Patriots? That's an opinion that's hard to argue for or against, but when they exempt themselves from laws that every other American is subject to, I find it to be an opinion that I disagree with.

Tim, I know that you always like to see both sides of the issues, and you present yourself as the ultimate moderate, and even reverse your position sometimes when presented with certain facts(which is very rare). But the people I mentioned, and many others, are hard line partisan hacks that could give a #### about much more than their position of power and their pensions. The country would be better off without them.
First off, I don't consider myself the ultimate anything. I am moderate on some issues, not at all on others. I don't necessarily see extremism as a vice- it depends on the issue. But I don't generally like extremism among American politicians. That to me is very dangerous.

Now you called the 4 guys above "hard line partisan hacks." NONE of them are hardline, by any real definition of the term. In fact, all 4 of them, like most Establishment leaders, are harshly criticized by the grass roots on both sides because they are too willing to compromise. But it is correct to call them partisan. And that is not necessarily a bad thing. More good has been accomplished in this country through partisan effort and struggle than otherwise. To me it's perfectly OK that both political parties are concerned with winning and staying in power. The struggle that ensues makes us stronger- typically. Most of our problems arise when we have people like the Tea Party, or liberal grass roots politicians, who don't give a crap about partisan politics and are willing to risk all to get their agenda pushed through. That's when bad things tend to happen.
To be clear, I was not trying to insult you. My impression has always been that in most cases you are trying to find the middle, and based on part of your post above, I'm not sure I was wrong. But I certainly don't read all of your posts, so whatever. My apologies.

Second, When has Pelosi ever compromised on anything? She supported Bush during the war in Iraq and all, but that wasn't a compromise.

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:

Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
The Establishment is in charge because they can use their power to raise massive amounts of campaign dollars, and people are too apathetic to vote beyond what "their" party tells them.

Good guys don't make millions of dollars in public service.

I'm not sure how you can look at the deficit and claim that they are doing a pretty good job. Plenty of other issues(such as the one on the border brought up in this thread) that are complete disasters because of these people.

Patriots? That's an opinion that's hard to argue for or against, but when they exempt themselves from laws that every other American is subject to, I find it to be an opinion that I disagree with.

Tim, I know that you always like to see both sides of the issues, and you present yourself as the ultimate moderate, and even reverse your position sometimes when presented with certain facts(which is very rare). But the people I mentioned, and many others, are hard line partisan hacks that could give a #### about much more than their position of power and their pensions. The country would be better off without them.
First off, I don't consider myself the ultimate anything. I am moderate on some issues, not at all on others. I don't necessarily see extremism as a vice- it depends on the issue. But I don't generally like extremism among American politicians. That to me is very dangerous.

Now you called the 4 guys above "hard line partisan hacks." NONE of them are hardline, by any real definition of the term. In fact, all 4 of them, like most Establishment leaders, are harshly criticized by the grass roots on both sides because they are too willing to compromise. But it is correct to call them partisan. And that is not necessarily a bad thing. More good has been accomplished in this country through partisan effort and struggle than otherwise. To me it's perfectly OK that both political parties are concerned with winning and staying in power. The struggle that ensues makes us stronger- typically. Most of our problems arise when we have people like the Tea Party, or liberal grass roots politicians, who don't give a crap about partisan politics and are willing to risk all to get their agenda pushed through. That's when bad things tend to happen.
To be clear, I was not trying to insult you. My impression has always been that in most cases you are trying to find the middle, and based on part of your post above, I'm not sure I was wrong. But I certainly don't read all of your posts, so whatever. My apologies.

Second, When has Pelosi ever compromised on anything? She supported Bush during the war in Iraq and all, but that wasn't a compromise.
Pelosi has been part of many compromises. Until the idiot tea party took over the GOP a lot of their guys would compromise to get things done. Now that makes them a RINO. And Pelosi is not as liberal as some make her out to be. Take it from a liberal. She is another business wing Democrat who is more centrist than left leaning.

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:

Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
I agree that these folks are pretty bright, competent as well (when you really consider what their goals are), but not corrupt? Come on.

 
psychobillies said:
I can't imagine anyone who is not just hopelessly married to their party getting behind Pelosi, Reid, Boehner, Mconnell etc. All of them are horrible #### bags as people. They're incompetent, not very bright, and seem to get off on screwing this country up. They are corrupt government elitists that will rule this country until they die or retire. The masses are so entrenched in this R vs D thing that they will continue to cheer these D bags on. Blows my mind.
Amen brother
Amazing that people believe this crap. For the record:

Pelosi- extremely competent, very bright, not corrupt.

Reid- somewhat competent, bright, somewhat corrupt.

Boehner- not very competent, somewhat bright, not corrupt.

McConnell- competent, bright, not corrupt.

NONE of them are horrible #### bags as people. That sort of language should be reserved for members of ISIS or Hamas. All of them are elitists, in a good way. None of them are D bags. And replacing any of them with extreme idealists would be disastrous for this country.

There is a reason why the Establishment has been and remains in charge of this country: because overall, despite their mistakes from time to time, they are the good guys, and they do a pretty fair job. All four of these people are patriots.
The Establishment is in charge because they can use their power to raise massive amounts of campaign dollars, and people are too apathetic to vote beyond what "their" party tells them.

Good guys don't make millions of dollars in public service.

I'm not sure how you can look at the deficit and claim that they are doing a pretty good job. Plenty of other issues(such as the one on the border brought up in this thread) that are complete disasters because of these people.

Patriots? That's an opinion that's hard to argue for or against, but when they exempt themselves from laws that every other American is subject to, I find it to be an opinion that I disagree with.

Tim, I know that you always like to see both sides of the issues, and you present yourself as the ultimate moderate, and even reverse your position sometimes when presented with certain facts(which is very rare). But the people I mentioned, and many others, are hard line partisan hacks that could give a #### about much more than their position of power and their pensions. The country would be better off without them.
First off, I don't consider myself the ultimate anything. I am moderate on some issues, not at all on others. I don't necessarily see extremism as a vice- it depends on the issue. But I don't generally like extremism among American politicians. That to me is very dangerous.

Now you called the 4 guys above "hard line partisan hacks." NONE of them are hardline, by any real definition of the term. In fact, all 4 of them, like most Establishment leaders, are harshly criticized by the grass roots on both sides because they are too willing to compromise. But it is correct to call them partisan. And that is not necessarily a bad thing. More good has been accomplished in this country through partisan effort and struggle than otherwise. To me it's perfectly OK that both political parties are concerned with winning and staying in power. The struggle that ensues makes us stronger- typically. Most of our problems arise when we have people like the Tea Party, or liberal grass roots politicians, who don't give a crap about partisan politics and are willing to risk all to get their agenda pushed through. That's when bad things tend to happen.
To be clear, I was not trying to insult you. My impression has always been that in most cases you are trying to find the middle, and based on part of your post above, I'm not sure I was wrong. But I certainly don't read all of your posts, so whatever. My apologies.

Second, When has Pelosi ever compromised on anything? She supported Bush during the war in Iraq and all, but that wasn't a compromise.
Pelosi agreed to extend the Bush tax cuts, to take $300 million out of Obama's stimulus for tax cuts, to all sorts of changes to Obamacare so as not to scare away Blue Dog Democrats, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Her entire term as Speaker was full of compromises.

 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top