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Rethink Jamal Lewis's value (1 Viewer)

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I know he hasnt done much, but coming off the bye wk jamal has a "new"/ "old" offensive coordinator who in the past has shown the propensity to be loyal to the veterans and to also run the ball more. What does this mean? Lewis to get 20-30 touches a game, more dedication to the run, circa 2000. Additionally Balt play a fairly easy schedule for the running game, saints, Cinci 2x, tenn, KC, clev.

thoughts?

 
Billick did once call Musa his "running back of the future." And Billick will be handling the play-calling..

 
Lewis to get 20-30 touches a game, more dedication to the run, circa 2000.
:unsure: That means he'll be running the ball 19-29 times per game, because his career average is less than 2 catches per game (and he only has 4 receptions so far this season). So far this season he's averaging 16 touches a game. He may well get up towards 20, but not much higher. Unless they want to see him on the IR in a hurry. I see no evidence that Jamal Lewis is going to be able to handle a load (much less perform) like he did in 2000.
 
Lewis to get 20-30 touches a game, more dedication to the run, circa 2000.
:unsure: That means he'll be running the ball 19-29 times per game, because his career average is less than 2 catches per game (and he only has 4 receptions so far this season). So far this season he's averaging 16 touches a game. He may well get up towards 20, but not much higher. Unless they want to see him on the IR in a hurry. I see no evidence that Jamal Lewis is going to be able to handle a load (much less perform) like he did in 2000.
I see no reason why he can't handle the load. The guy is healthy for the first time in a long time, he's only 27 years old, he's 245lbs! Handling the load is not the issue with Jamal. His problem is that he is not running with any degree of decisiveness or confidence. This guy used to make 1 cut and hit the hole with authority. If there was no hole after 1 cut he'd make one by lowering his pads and smashing into someone on the other side of the ball. If you've watched him run this season (I own him and have Sunday ticket so I have) you'll notice he is not hitting holes with any authority. He either isn't seeing the holes or does not trust his OL. Watch his feet when he approaches the line of scrimmage. He takes a bunch of short choppy steps as though he's not sure where to go. By the time he finds the crease it's too late, defenders in the NFL are too fast and too smart. They find the holes quickly and fill them. IMO Lewis is not done yet. I'm skeptical about his ability to turn it around this season but I think when he develops more trust in his OL and he regains his confidence he has a couple 1000 yard seasons left in him.
 
I just thought people were burying jamal before he was dead, i'm not saying he'll be great, but as a RB2 gotten in the 4th rnd or later, he could represent value ddown the stretch.

FYI part of the reason fassel was fired , apart from the power struggle with Billick, was that Veterans were complaining that the offense lost its identity and that veterans werent being used properly (mcnair, mason, lewis)

 
I know he hasnt done much, but coming off the bye wk jamal has a "new"/ "old" offensive coordinator who in the past has shown the propensity to be loyal to the veterans and to also run the ball more. What does this mean? Lewis to get 20-30 touches a game, more dedication to the run, circa 2000. Additionally Balt play a fairly easy schedule for the running game, saints, Cinci 2x, tenn, KC, clev.thoughts?
Just say no.
 
Billick did once call Musa his "running back of the future." And Billick will be handling the play-calling..
He can't be saying that because Musa will be an unrestricted free agent after this season.
link to article (8/23/06)
The Ravens had a choice of keeping one of two free-agent running backs, either Jamal Lewis or Taylor, and they kept Lewis.

"You get into a financial situation, you got to make some choices," Billick said. "We also have this young Musa Smith, who we think is going to be very, very good and is going to be our young back of the future."
 
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J-Rock said:
I see no reason why he can't handle the load. The guy is healthy for the first time in a long time, he's only 27 years old, he's 245lbs! Handling the load is not the issue with Jamal.

His problem is that he is not running with any degree of decisiveness or confidence.
Do the math.
 
J-Rock said:
I see no reason why he can't handle the load. The guy is healthy for the first time in a long time, he's only 27 years old, he's 245lbs! Handling the load is not the issue with Jamal.

His problem is that he is not running with any degree of decisiveness or confidence.
Do the math.
I'm not sure I see "the math" :confused:
 
J-Rock said:
I see no reason why he can't handle the load. The guy is healthy for the first time in a long time, he's only 27 years old, he's 245lbs! Handling the load is not the issue with Jamal.

His problem is that he is not running with any degree of decisiveness or confidence.
Do the math.
I'm not sure I see "the math" :confused:
He's not running with any degree of deciveness or confidence because he's not healthy- at least not in the same physical state he was when he could run effectively. Watch tapes of Jamal running in 2003 compared to now- don't look at the play, look at his lower body. He's indecisive because he doesnt have the same power and quickness- he doesnt have a firm plant (root) which is where all the power originates. Anybody would look indecisive if they knew they couldnt run people over or avoid the brunt of the hit like they used to. Lewis was never a very versatile back, without power he doesnt have anything to pull out of the hat, it all revolved around getting to the point of attack with the greatest momentum. If he cant do that he cant perform, and he cant do that anymore. His lower body is not right- it could be his knees but i suspect its his ankle that threw his whole running style off kilter. Those big legs are useless if he cant drive off them. Not to mention that favoring one foot puts a strain on a lot of places all over the lower body.
 
J-Rock said:
I see no reason why he can't handle the load. The guy is healthy for the first time in a long time, he's only 27 years old, he's 245lbs! Handling the load is not the issue with Jamal.

His problem is that he is not running with any degree of decisiveness or confidence.
Do the math.
I'm not sure I see "the math" :confused:
He's not running with any degree of deciveness or confidence because he's not healthy- at least not in the same physical state he was when he could run effectively. Watch tapes of Jamal running in 2003 compared to now- don't look at the play, look at his lower body. He's indecisive because he doesnt have the same power and quickness- he doesnt have a firm plant (root) which is where all the power originates. Anybody would look indecisive if they knew they couldnt run people over or avoid the brunt of the hit like they used to. Lewis was never a very versatile back, without power he doesnt have anything to pull out of the hat, it all revolved around getting to the point of attack with the greatest momentum. If he cant do that he cant perform, and he cant do that anymore. His lower body is not right- it could be his knees but i suspect its his ankle that threw his whole running style off kilter. Those big legs are useless if he cant drive off them. Not to mention that favoring one foot puts a strain on a lot of places all over the lower body.
I understand your point but I disagree. I don't think his problem is physical as much as it is mental. He just doesn't seem to have his head in the game. With all the distractions he's faced lately it's not suprising. Listen to him, he's asking for more carries, saying he needs more touches to be the back he used to be. No one is commenting on his physical condition. It's not a concern for Billick, the media, Lewis, etc. This is not a "Carson Palmer is afraid to plant his foot on a throw" issue its a "Lewis has too many non football distractions and has lost his focus" issue - IMO.

 
Just looks slow to me. He tries to hit the hole, but it closes before he makes it.

Prison did not do him well. And he needs to lose about 20 lbs of twinkies.

I have him on my team and wish he'd get it together. But even with 20 carries a game I think at best we're looking at 90 yards, and being yanked at the goalline so McNair can hit Heap.

 
What’s in store for the Ravens’ offense? Don’t expect many personnel changes. The Ravens’ offensive depth isn’t a team strength, so Billick can’t do much tinkering. We hear that QB Steve McNair’s job is safe, and RB Jamal Lewis is expected to remain the starter after some inspired play vs. the Panthers.

per PFW

 
Baltimore's Offense looked pretty good, dedication to the run as evident by lewis's 31 carries, i'm still confident that lewis will be solid down the stretch and atleast outperform his ADP.

 

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