Sure, if you didn't pay attention, didn't watch preseason games, and only listened to the national media outlets that have no idea what the #### they're talking about.F****** skeletor. Everything pointed to Beck starting the season...........
Other than the on field play? Have you been watching at all? Beck looked rancid and grossman was hitting receivers in stride.F****** skeletor. Everything pointed to Beck starting the season...........
Yup. And it was Reid's original story, with no sources cited, that the national media ran with. He's an idiot.Actually Jason Reid who works for the Washington Post kept claiming it would be Beck. However, Jason Reid is a moron.
Grossman had more preseason pass attempts, more completions, more yards, more TDs, fewer INTs, fewer fumbles, fewer sacks, a higher completion %, a higher yards-per-attempt, and a higher passer rating.But aside from ALL THOSE THINGS........yes, everything pointed to Beck starting.F****** skeletor. Everything pointed to Beck starting the season...........
Hilarious. It's good to see people drawing conclusions from a few quarters of preseason play.Personally, I was swayed to Beck by Matt Waldman's take on him as well as the fact that he is a bit of an unknown (having only played 4 games his rookie year, whereas Grossman is very much so a known quantity. The guy has a career 54.2 completion %, 6.4 ypa, and a 40-40 TD-INT ratio, not to mention he fumbles every other game.Grossman had more preseason pass attempts, more completions, more yards, more TDs, fewer INTs, fewer fumbles, fewer sacks, a higher completion %, a higher yards-per-attempt, and a higher passer rating.But aside from ALL THOSE THINGS........yes, everything pointed to Beck starting.F****** skeletor. Everything pointed to Beck starting the season...........![]()
As a Santana Moss owner, I agree that this is better than the dink-and-dunk approach that Beck applied. Having said that, I also agree that Satan Incarnate will put Beck in by Week 7.I like this for Santana Moss. Having said that, I'm sure Beck will be starting games at some point this year
Actually Jason Reid who works for the Washington Post kept claiming it would be Beck. However, Jason Reid is a moron.
Really!? You expected Shanahan to go in to week 1 with a QB that had half the preparation as the opponents QB, just so the media could keep asking questions? Interesting.John Keim, perhaps the absolute best Redskins beat writer, has been saying for a week or 2 that the starter would be getting all the first team reps this week, whether or not any official announcement was made.I'm shocked it leaked out this early. I was expecting Shanny to split the first-team reps this week just to keep everyone guessing.
I didn't say it made a lot of sense. It just seemed like something Shanahan might do, just to keep it a secret.Really!? You expected Shanahan to go in to week 1 with a QB that had half the preparation as the opponents QB, just so the media could keep asking questions? Interesting.John Keim, perhaps the absolute best Redskins beat writer, has been saying for a week or 2 that the starter would be getting all the first team reps this week, whether or not any official announcement was made.I'm shocked it leaked out this early. I was expecting Shanny to split the first-team reps this week just to keep everyone guessing.
please tell us why....?'Macdaddy_2004 said:F****** skeletor. Everything pointed to Beck starting the season...........
Beck sucks. Why is him being an unknown ( to you) a good thing? at least we have seen grossman win 13 gamesin one season. THeres an above average chance that beck will never win that many games in his entire career.'FF Ninja said:Hilarious. It's good to see people drawing conclusions from a few quarters of preseason play.Personally, I was swayed to Beck by Matt Waldman's take on him as well as the fact that he is a bit of an unknown (having only played 4 games his rookie year, whereas Grossman is very much so a known quantity. The guy has a career 54.2 completion %, 6.4 ypa, and a 40-40 TD-INT ratio, not to mention he fumbles every other game.'[scooter] said:Grossman had more preseason pass attempts, more completions, more yards, more TDs, fewer INTs, fewer fumbles, fewer sacks, a higher completion %, a higher yards-per-attempt, and a higher passer rating.But aside from ALL THOSE THINGS........yes, everything pointed to Beck starting.'Macdaddy_2004 said:F****** skeletor. Everything pointed to Beck starting the season...........![]()
If you are the least bit serious about winning football games in 2011 then I'd roll with just about anybody other than Grossman. Unless I was one of those people who put a lot of stock into preseason statistics.![]()
'jon_mx said:Grossman is the better qb/thread
I think Beck has the stronger arm. Beck, for the most part, has all the physical advantages over Grossman.If true, this is great news. Shanahan likes Armstrong and he is the fastest guy on the team (along with Banks), the deep threat; If Beck really does have the noodle arm people say he does, it seems obvious not to have such a player as a starter. I thought Troy Smith didn't get a fair shot in Baltimore, then they drafted a big arm; Flacco. Shanny has always had capable arms as qb hasn't he? Was Plummer a weak arm? Anyway, Armstrong might be a popular pickup in the coming weeks if Grossman can get it done.
Kyle Shanahan has also said a lot of great things about Beck. This isn't the McNabb situation again, I think either of them favor one greatly over the other.'delusional said:Pretty sure as long as Shannys son is there and Grossman is available, he will start
201055.6 completion %'ConnSKINS26 said:If you watched Grossman actually run the offense last season and this preseason, you wouldn't need the statistics to tell you he's not as bad as public opinion would have you think.
And yet those stats are still better than anything John Beck has done in his career.201055.6 completion %'ConnSKINS26 said:If you watched Grossman actually run the offense last season and this preseason, you wouldn't need the statistics to tell you he's not as bad as public opinion would have you think.
7 TD
4 INT
4 fumbles
1-3 record
1-2 record in games he started (the other loss was when he came in to seal the victory for the Lions with his fumble)
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That's pretty much about as bad as public opinion thinks he is.
Funny, how I said "if you watched Grossman run the offense...you wouldn't need the stats". And then you came back with stats. Obviously, I'm talking about what I saw, and the potential that was there in this offense.201055.6 completion %'ConnSKINS26 said:If you watched Grossman actually run the offense last season and this preseason, you wouldn't need the statistics to tell you he's not as bad as public opinion would have you think.
7 TD
4 INT
4 fumbles
1-3 record
1-2 record in games he started (the other loss was when he came in to seal the victory for the Lions with his fumble)
Link
That's pretty much about as bad as public opinion thinks he is.