Rex Grossman (1 Viewer)

[Bojang0301]

Well, I just don't know where to begin so let's pretend that he keeps the starting gig and stays healthy I don't know a whole lot about this kid but let's see if I can peice something together and with you all's help I can figure out the value on this guy. He could be a pretty sneaky play that no one is talking about.

QB Rex Grossman(6-1, 217, 4.92) FloridaNotes: Comes from an affluent family. Has a reputation for not making the greatest decisions off the field. Enrolled in January 1999 to participate in spring drills but used his redshirt year in the fall. Started eight games in 2000 and completed 131-of-212 passes for 1,866 yards with 21 touchdowns and seven interceptions. Finished second in the Heisman Trophy balloting as a sophomore in ’01, when he was named Associated Press Player of the Year and first-team All-Southeastern Conference. Started all 11 games and completed 259-395-3,896-34-12. In ’02, completed 287-502-3,402-22-17.Positives: Has a quick release and an over-the-top delivery. Has handled pressure situations well in the past. Has a good — not great — arm and throws an extremely catchable ball, especially deep. His mechanics — especially setup and compact release — are assets. Seems to be aware in the pocket and buys time with his feet. Has football intelligence and the toughness of a pit bull. Also has good mental toughness. Likes to lift with the linemen. Teammates love his self-confidence and bring-it-on attitude. Can get the ball into tight spots because of his intermediate arm strength. Has a burning desire to win.Negatives: Can be lazy and rubs people the wrong way at times because of his confidence. Likes to party. Got by on natural talent at Florida. When things didn’t go well in ’02, Grossman was out of sync a lot and made too many off-balance throws. Can escape pressure but is not a threat to tuck and run. Has average overall mechanics. Accuracy down the field is limited, as it is when he throws on the move. Will need to be schooled on what the “football classroom” means. Struggles in new offense weren’t entirely related to fresh scheme and changes in his surroundings, but teams will critique his ineffectiveness without Steve Spurrier and the wealth of talent that left for the NFL in 2002. Didn’t display great accuracy at his Scouting Combine workout.Summary: Another year at Florida probably would not have hurt Grossman, but he figures to be drafted on the first day.from PFW

PASSING Year Team G GS Att Comp Pct Yards YPA Lg TD Int Tkld 20+ 40+ Rate 2003 Chicago Bears 3 3 72 38 52.8 437 6.07 59 2 1 4/41 7 1 74.8 2004 Chicago Bears 3 3 84 47 56.0 607 7.23 40 1 3 5/22 8 1 67.9 2005 Chicago Bears 2 1 39 20 51.3 259 6.64 54 1 2 1/9 4 1 59.7 TOTAL 8 7 195 105 53.8 1303 6.68 59 4 6 10/72 19 3 68.8

He hasn't posted all that great of stats and has been plagued by bad luck injuries. From what I've read the Bears still have quite a bit of confidence in the kid and really did bring Griese in to backup. I think the weapons he has are severally underrated (Moosh, Bradley, Berrian, Gage, Clark and the strength of the running game). Is it possible for him to end up a number 2 QB with upside or is there something I'm missing. What does Grossmen bring to the table and what is his upside?

 

[Boone22]

Saw this just this morning on KFFL...

Bears | W. Wilson discusses Grossman's strengths

Mon, 10 Jul 2006 18:54:08 -0700

Larry Mayer, of ChicagoBears.com, reports Chicago Bears quarterbacks coach Wade Wilson discussed QB Rex Grossman's strengths. Wilson said, "The thing that impresses me first and foremost is his instincts. He can feel the rush without seeing it and reads the secondary very well. He has an exceptionally strong and quick arm, but I'd probably rank his instincts No. 1 as far as his greatest strength." When asked what Grossman needed to improve on, Wilson said, "Sometimes he may get a little overaggressive. But it's hard because that's what makes him great as well. He's able to make the big play because he is aggressive. We just have to make sure that he goes through his progressions and just try not to force things to happen." Wilson added that he believes Grossman has the potential to become a top NFL quarterback and that the only thing he lacks is game experience.

 

[Beaumont]

Grossman is a sneaky dynasty play, but the Bears have little to no firepower right now ...

 

[rzrback77]

Its obvious that the two factors keeping Grossman at the bottom of ADPs and projections are his system (Bears feature a strong running game with ball control type offense) AND the fact that his history is littered with injuries and ineffectiveness. Deadly combo keeping him at the bottom of the QB food chain with the Buffalo trio.

His positive is that you can grab him cheap in almost every type of draft, so the only risk is loss of quality depth elsewhere.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I'm overlooking him on purpose.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Grossman is a sneaky dynasty play, but the Bears have little to no firepower right now ...

I drafted him in my Dynasty league and think that he is very much undervalued although I would be very skeptical in redraft leagues. I think the coaching staff likes Rex and he will have every opportunity to become a top level NFL QB. This year is key - if he can stay healthy I think the future will be very bright.

 

[Bri]

Bears seem content to run 90% of the time(or so it seems) with a young QB at the helm. If they do throw it seems to be just short passes too. IIRC Their YPA has been very low for years. It seems to me like a guarded no mistake offense. I would like to see what they do when they genuinely play offense. I understand chicago will always run alot and have for "forever" with Sweetness' long career but they did pass with McMahon and even Mcnown+Kramer. Let's see a real offense not some guarded one.

Regardless of what Lovie said, he didn't have confidence in Orton last year if it was such a ball control O. They got Muhsin for a reason and have drafted WRs for the last few years for a reason.

Grossman threw more than Orton when he did come back. Open the floodgates Lovie. Til he does that, their QBs are useless in FF.

 

[Z-Dog]

Let's not write off the offense just yeat. In recent years, the Bears have invested heavily in the offense, bringing in vets like Mushin and Thomas Jones, and spending high picks on Cedric Benson, Mark Bradley, and Rex Grossman. Injuries have forced the team to play more conservatively, but they will air it out more now that Grossman is back under center. I think Chicago is one of those teams that we will look back on and slap our foreheads about. Perhpas a year away in re-draft, but a buy now in dynasty.

 

[Tau837]

I'm overlooking him on purpose.

 

[mbuehner]

Sure, Rex could turn it all around this year. He has some pretty nifty tools and the franchise believes in him. He will have his shot. That being said, he has a career completion percentage of 54% and last year was actually worse than that. His yards per attempt is an anemic 6.7. He has thrown 4 tds and 6 ints in his career, and before anyone points out he has only played 8 games in 3 seasons it should be noted that that in itself is not a ringing endorsement. I would be very careful using Grossman as anything but a flyer. I think he has shown a pretty good arm and good decision making, but if he cant stay healthy and get the ball on target it wont matter.

Grossman's biggest problem is that the Bears are a very good football team. They probably have the best defense in the league and a very good running game. Grossman is not going to have the luxury that many young QBs have of playing on a team that passes a lot, and with a couple of interesting backups behind him he cant afford to stumble too badly out of the blocks either. Potentially the upside is great, but the downside is very real.

 

[Bri]

Let's not write off the offense just yeat. In recent years, the Bears have invested heavily in the offense, bringing in vets like Mushin and Thomas Jones, and spending high picks on Cedric Benson, Mark Bradley, and Rex Grossman. Injuries have forced the team to play more conservatively, but they will air it out more now that Grossman is back under center. I think Chicago is one of those teams that we will look back on and slap our foreheads about. Perhpas a year away in re-draft, but a buy now in dynasty.

name the last Bears QB to throw for 4k

 

[Tau837]

Here is one way to look at this. Compare the Bears to the Steelers.

1. Great defense for Chicago last year; great defense for Pittsburgh in the past 2 years.

2. Very good running game for Chicago last year (#8); great running game for Pittsburgh in past 2 years (#2 and #5).

3. Ball control offense for both in recent years.

I'd say Grossman's ceiling is Roethlisberger's numbers: QB21 in 2004 and QB19 last year. But consider that Roethlisberger has had better targets in Ward, Burress, Randle El, and Miller. Muhammad could be a solid WR for Grossman, but that's about it. And, obviously, Grossman would have to stay healthy to reach Ben's numbers (Ben played 14 and 13 games in his two seasons).

That's not a very high ceiling. And his floor has been demonstrated for the past 3 years: QB49, QB42, QB57.

I could see taking a flyer in a dynasty league but I see no reason to draft Grossman at all in a redraft.

 

[Kit Fisto]

No.

Just Win Baby said it well. His ceiling is average at best. Personally, I'll let someone else worry about Rex Grossman staying healthy enough to put up mediocre stats.