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Rice v. McCoy in PPR (1 Viewer)

Is Rice or McCoy the better pick in PPR redraft?


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Rice and McCoy are both great in PPR. Both have question marks this season, including but not limited to:

Both have backups that may eat into carries, with Pierce perhaps perceived to steal more carries than Brown.

McCoy has a possible injury issue - primarily concussion related that concerns people.

The newer offense may not pass as much to Rice.

The new offense in Philly is unknown regarding how it will translate in the NFL.

Possible Superbowl hangover in Baltimore, leading to less overall production (pure speculation)

Quarterback unknowns in Philly.

Which RB do you prefer and why?

 
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McCoy because I think he is a very dynamic player that is being forgotten just a little bit. The injuries last year has kind of removed some of the immediate recall on him as being a great player but he is one, for sure. Rice, on the other hand, is great and all, but he appears to be tredning down instead of up (or staying the same). The philosphy of the Ravens seem to be much friendlier to real-life fans of the Ravens than they do of FF junkies' stats for a drafted player.

 
@eaglescentral: 42 RBs received 100+ carries in 2012. LeSean McCoy faced 3rd fewest 8 men in box situations, per PFF. Bryce Brown 2nd fewest.

 
Rice's receptions for the last 4 years: 61, 76, 63, 78. Nothing has changed in Baltimore to suggest they'd stop throwing him the ball. If anything, Boldin's departure will require Rice to work in the passing game even more.

LeSean McCoy has only 1 year matching that reception total - 78 in 2010. Although arguably he would've put-up Rice-esque reception totals last year in 16 games.

But Andy Reid is gone. We have no idea how Chip Kelley will utilize the RBs in the passing game. But I can tell you that while at Oregon, by design, the offense did not throw the ball to RBs as much. They ran many more WR bubble screens. Other rumors from the Eagles anticipate him using a TE-based offense. Given that TEs occupy much of the same space as the RBs in shorter routes, I wouldn't expect him to throw to the RBs as much as Andy Reid did.

Surprised that this is close. Rice by a clear margin based on expected receptions.

 
Give me McCoy. I've simply never been a huge Rice fan (maybe because I like the Steelers but oh well). Nobody can argue he is one of the more talented RB's in the league, I just don't like him. I like McCoys outlook on the season with this new O and think he will shine.

 
With all the uncertainty mentioned, I think Rice is pick you are least likely to regret. I'll take his 14-16 games a year and "boring" stat line any time...

 
I like Rice better as well. Even though I think he will be losing some carries to Pierce this year, he'll still put up good numbers and has a better chance of staying healthy than McCoy. Plus, I do my best to avoid rooting for any Eagles players.

 
McCoy because I think he is a very dynamic player that is being forgotten just a little bit. The injuries last year has kind of removed some of the immediate recall on him as being a great player but he is one, for sure. Rice, on the other hand, is great and all, but he appears to be tredning down instead of up (or staying the same). The philosphy of the Ravens seem to be much friendlier to real-life fans of the Ravens than they do of FF junkies' stats for a drafted player.
What is the downward trend associated with Rice?

I'm not blaming you for preferring McCoy, as that's just a personal opinion, but I'm not seeing how there's all that much difference between the two. In fact if there was a "downward trend" it would be McCoy's 2012 season - although I'm not saying that the trend will continue in 2013 (I don't think it will).

Ric is only 26, and sure Pierce is talented and looked good during the playoff run, - but Peirce was also on fresh legs after being used far less frequently during the season and even during the playoffs. Bryce Brown actually looked even better during his first two games and likely earned a bigger role, as much as Pierce has.

We keep seeing these comparison threads (Rice v. McCoy / Charles v. Martin) - and while I'm not saying the discussions have no value at all - I don't think anyone will find the "right" answer. These players are inthe same range of ADP for a reason, they each have similar value and it's going to come doen to personal preference.

 
McCoy because I think he is a very dynamic player that is being forgotten just a little bit. The injuries last year has kind of removed some of the immediate recall on him as being a great player but he is one, for sure. Rice, on the other hand, is great and all, but he appears to be tredning down instead of up (or staying the same). The philosphy of the Ravens seem to be much friendlier to real-life fans of the Ravens than they do of FF junkies' stats for a drafted player.
What is the downward trend associated with Rice?

I'm not blaming you for preferring McCoy, as that's just a personal opinion, but I'm not seeing how there's all that much difference between the two. In fact if there was a "downward trend" it would be McCoy's 2012 season - although I'm not saying that the trend will continue in 2013 (I don't think it will).

Ric is only 26, and sure Pierce is talented and looked good during the playoff run, - but Peirce was also on fresh legs after being used far less frequently during the season and even during the playoffs. Bryce Brown actually looked even better during his first two games and likely earned a bigger role, as much as Pierce has.

We keep seeing these comparison threads (Rice v. McCoy / Charles v. Martin) - and while I'm not saying the discussions have no value at all - I don't think anyone will find the "right" answer. These players are inthe same range of ADP for a reason, they each have similar value and it's going to come doen to personal preference.
I agree with the bolded. I think I may have said as much in the Charles/Martin thread.

But trying to just add some input to discussion for others to think on, I said the part about Rice based mostly on noticing that Rice last year had 10 games with less than 20 carries and remembering that two more of those games could have easily been less than 20 had they not ran the ball about 7 times in the last drive. Also, during the last 8 games of last year, Pierce, with the exception of one game, saw a consistent 8-10 carries during meaningful junctions of the game (A couple times he had more, one time he had less,etc). It just seems to me that, in real life, Rice is not going to be used the way he was when he had the truly great years.

I have a friend of mine who has owned Rice in his main dynasty for the past 3 years and he mentioned just yesterday that the last two years with Rice have been like pulling a rabbit out of a hat. He says he can't tell me how many times he has been watching his #1 RB and been like "Where the heck is Rice?" during big parts of the games. But, over these last two years, he says its kinda worked out because Rice always seemed to get that TD or get that handful of yards in the last part of the game that salvaged his fantasy day but overall he feels like he has been playing russian roulette with him.

That conversation, more than anything, is really what I draw my opinion on because, like lots of people, I "follow" all the fantasy relevant players and I see stats and rankings but when you talk with people that have owned him for a long time and they really WATCH these guys every game of every year and the stories sound similar (cautious optimism...a little nervousness), that makes me understand their perspective.

 
With all the uncertainty mentioned, I think Rice is pick you are least likely to regret. I'll take his 14-16 games a year and "boring" stat line any time...
+1 ... I don't know why people are so down on Rice. He's only 26 and one of the top 5 most talented feature backs in the league. The Pierce talk is overblown; there is no way Pierce plays as more than a solid change of pace back.

I also vehemently distrust Chip Kelly's system. Foles is likely going to be the QB so I think defenses will be stacking the box and forcing Foles to beat them through the air. I don't like that scenario for McCoy. I see a 10-14 finish for McCoy by the end of the year, mostly due to the lack of TD opportunities.

 
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I'm in the same boat about McCoy. Got him in my keeper league and I'm considering trading him.

As for this poll, I would take Rice over McCoy because I think there are way more important red flags on McCoy than on Rice.

 

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