Richard Seymour is "angry'' (2 Viewers)

[BustedKnuckles]

Richard Seymour-DL- Raiders Sep. 7 - 9:16 am et

According to SI.com's Peter King, Richard Seymour is "angry" about his recent trade from the Patriots to the Raiders.

Can you blame him? "I would not be surprised if he doesn't report," said a source close to Seymour, though King points out that it's an unlikely scenario. Seymour wouldn't hit free agency next March if he sat out the 2009 season.



and so it begins.....

 

[efactor]

Must be tough to go from maybe the best organization in the NFL to the worst AND move from one coast to the other, especially if he has a family. Plus, having this happen a week before the start of the season can't make it any easier.

He'll report though. Spend his year in purgatory and make a quick exit............

 

[gbill2004]

There is already talk that the Raiders will slap the franchise tag on him after this season.

 

[efactor]

There is already talk that the Raiders will slap the franchise tag on him after this season.

If that happens, Angry won't be a strong enough adjective..................

 

[DarkManX]

Id be pretty angry too if this happened a week out from the start of the season.

 

[pantherclub]

There is already talk that the Raiders will slap the franchise tag on him after this season.

If that happens, Angry won't be a strong enough adjective..................

Maybe I am missing something here, but why would he be angry with the franchise tag? Wouldnt that pay him over $20 million a year next year?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

There is already talk that the Raiders will slap the franchise tag on him after this season.

If that happens, Angry won't be a strong enough adjective..................

Maybe I am missing something here, but why would he be angry with the franchise tag? Wouldnt that pay him over $20 million a year next year?

because its like going from working at a 5 star restaurant and getting shipped to burger king

 

[jcuadrado]

There is already talk that the Raiders will slap the franchise tag on him after this season.

If that happens, Angry won't be a strong enough adjective..................

Maybe I am missing something here, but why would he be angry with the franchise tag? Wouldnt that pay him over $20 million a year next year?

because its like going from working at a 5 star restaurant and getting shipped to burger king

I work in a nice place now for ok money...but if I got offered a gig at BK for let's say a million a year...I'd be happy as hell.I don't feel one bit sorry for athletes that get paid a gazillion dollars...boohoo..suck it up dude and play.

 

[FUBAR]

There is already talk that the Raiders will slap the franchise tag on him after this season.

If that happens, Angry won't be a strong enough adjective..................

Maybe I am missing something here, but why would he be angry with the franchise tag? Wouldnt that pay him over $20 million a year next year?

because its like going from working at a 5 star restaurant and getting shipped to burger king

His anger is not surprising at all, although it could be worse - could have been right before the deadline. One of the top 2 franchises right now to one of the worst 2, a team with as good a chance as anyone to win it all to a team lucky to win two games, opposite coast - nobody wants to live on the left coast, family, etc. I'd be pissed too. Franchise tag will make it even worse for one of the better Dlinemen in the game.

 

[FUBAR]

There is already talk that the Raiders will slap the franchise tag on him after this season.

If that happens, Angry won't be a strong enough adjective..................

Maybe I am missing something here, but why would he be angry with the franchise tag? Wouldnt that pay him over $20 million a year next year?

because its like going from working at a 5 star restaurant and getting shipped to burger king

I work in a nice place now for ok money...but if I got offered a gig at BK for let's say a million a year...I'd be happy as hell.I don't feel one bit sorry for athletes that get paid a gazillion dollars...boohoo..suck it up dude and play.

I disagree entirely. Take the $$$ out of it for a minute. I currently work for a fantastic boss in a place where I feel a strong sense of pride to just walk in the door each day. It truly is a privilege and honor to be part of something great with people who work hard, are very capable, have fun, and feel like family. If I got shipped to a place I couldn't stand, I'd be extremely pissed.

I see you're assuming a pay raise, did Seymour get one?

 

[Balance]

Did I just see someone say "take the $$$ out of it?"

 

[FUBAR]

Did I just see someone say "take the $$$ out of it?"

yeah, you did. The $ isn't a factor here.

 

[pantherclub]

Did I just see someone say "take the $$$ out of it?"

yeah, you did. The $ isn't a factor here.

20 million a year isnt a factor? Uh, okay what ever you say my man.It made Julius Peppers shut the hell up and report to camp. Even he knows that getting 16 million a year is a ungodly amount and makes playing for a team that he doesnt like acceptable.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

He should be angry, I know I would be.

 

[FUBAR]

Did I just see someone say "take the $$$ out of it?"

yeah, you did. The $ isn't a factor here.

20 million a year isnt a factor? Uh, okay what ever you say my man.It made Julius Peppers shut the hell up and report to camp. Even he knows that getting 16 million a year is a ungodly amount and makes playing for a team that he doesnt like acceptable.

He'll probably show and do his job. Doesn't mean he doesn't have a right to be upset about the trade.Stop being jealous of others for making more than you do.

 

[One]

He should be angry, I know I would be.

x2

 

[-baller]

Did I just see someone say "take the $$$ out of it?"

yeah, you did. The $ isn't a factor here.

20 million a year isnt a factor? Uh, okay what ever you say my man.It made Julius Peppers shut the hell up and report to camp. Even he knows that getting 16 million a year is a ungodly amount and makes playing for a team that he doesnt like acceptable.

what's the rules on that if he plays significant snaps at tackle?is it a 50+% kind of thing?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Seymour will be welcomed in Oakland. People have no idea about the crazy love he is going to receive in the "Black Hole". His teammates are already excited about his coming. We have some decent ILBs and we needed someone to take the pressure off the edge. Seymour shunts the outside and corrals them to our interior. We have the best DB's in the league, (Chris Johnson is very underrated). We need another run stuffer - wish we had taken Raji....but the opportunites are going to increase for Ellis.

Seymour is probably pissed about moving to the opposite coast, family, moving, etc. But he knows that this is a business first. The "sport part" is really for the fans. He will adapt well, and I am sure he will fit in nicely. He is a pro bowl player and class act.

Contrast that move with the Chargers Merriman acting like an idiot, possibly suspended, and I think the spread for Monday nights home opener is closing.

Watch the spread...

Welcome to Oaktown Seymour, already ordering up the jersey!

 

[-baller]

He should be angry, I know I would be.

yeah?you'd only have yourself to blame --- maybe if he'd been more willing to work w/the team on a contract instead of tryin to 'git paid' he'd still be w/the pats right now.I miss seymour, but that dude made his own bed.like the other guy said, I don't feel sorry for anybody making millions every year.

 

[Wadsworth]

I currently work for a fantastic boss in a place where I feel a strong sense of pride to just walk in the door each day. It truly is a privilege and honor to be part of something great with people who work hard, are very capable, have fun, and feel like family.

Your "fantastic boss" just traded you to Oakland less than a week before the start of the season, maybe he wasn't so fantastic after all. And I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for any of that "family" to say something in support of you publicly. BB just booted you to purgatory just like he will anyone else if it's in his best interest. NE is not a family, it's BB, Tom Brady, and supporting cast. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, I just get annoyed when people try and paint NE as some sort NFL version of Xanadu, where all is happy and joyful and everyone gets along.

 

[lod01]

This is gonna get real ugly down the road. The Raiders are forced to slap the francise tag on him becasue there is no way he signs any sort of deal with them. They shipped out a 2010 1st round pick for him. They won't just let him go.

 

[FUBAR]

I currently work for a fantastic boss in a place where I feel a strong sense of pride to just walk in the door each day. It truly is a privilege and honor to be part of something great with people who work hard, are very capable, have fun, and feel like family.

Your "fantastic boss" just traded you to Oakland less than a week before the start of the season, maybe he wasn't so fantastic after all. And I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for any of that "family" to say something in support of you publicly. BB just booted you to purgatory just like he will anyone else if it's in his best interest. NE is not a family, it's BB, Tom Brady, and supporting cast. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, I just get annoyed when people try and paint NE as some sort NFL version of Xanadu, where all is happy and joyful and everyone gets along.

Thank you for your insight. I'm sure Seymour didn't feel like he was an important part of a team, had no friends on the team and is relieved to be away from that hot mess. I think that was him dancing in the street to Kool and the Gang's "Celebration".

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I have no problem with what the Raiders did, they got rid of Burgess for a 3rd and 5th and got back Seymour for a 1st (2 yrs from now). Good deals.

The way that overpriced rookies are being paid, I'd rather pay $$$$ to proven pro-bowlers in their prime than primadonna cry babies like Crabtree...

I always asked, "Why don't the Raiders just deal thier top pick?". The answer is that no one wants to pay the money to the collection of stiffs at the top of round #1.

Better to take the proven player at a discount.

Wave of the future, (49ers are you paying attention?)

 

[JohnnyU]

He should be proud to play for an organization that doesn't spy on other teams

 

[-baller]

This is gonna get real ugly down the road. The Raiders are forced to slap the francise tag on him becasue there is no way he signs any sort of deal with them. They shipped out a 2010 1st round pick for him. They won't just let him go.

2011.and as far as the pats being a 'family', or whatever, people need to learn to start taking responsibility for their own actions.the universe doesn't revolve around you or anybody else.the pats have a history of taking care of players when they weren't compelled to by rule, but every time some guy gets moved because he wants to 'git paid' some people get all bloated and cramped about it.you pick your poison --- team or money, it's the very few lucky ones who get both.take a look at the pay cut moss took to escape oakland and move on over to the pats, and get back to me on that.

 

[Tom Servo]

I currently work for a fantastic boss in a place where I feel a strong sense of pride to just walk in the door each day. It truly is a privilege and honor to be part of something great with people who work hard, are very capable, have fun, and feel like family.

Your "fantastic boss" just traded you to Oakland less than a week before the start of the season, maybe he wasn't so fantastic after all. And I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for any of that "family" to say something in support of you publicly. BB just booted you to purgatory just like he will anyone else if it's in his best interest. NE is not a family, it's BB, Tom Brady, and supporting cast. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, I just get annoyed when people try and paint NE as some sort NFL version of Xanadu, where all is happy and joyful and everyone gets along.

Thank you for your insight. I'm sure Seymour didn't feel like he was an important part of a team, had no friends on the team and is relieved to be away from that hot mess. I think that was him dancing in the street to Kool and the Gang's "Celebration".

FUBAR's right. Just because RS is making more jack that all of us on this board put together does not mean he won't get upset over his changing situation. It's a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with money. We've had job assignments/temporary relocations forced on us that we didn't like; NFL/MLB/NHL/NBA players are no different. They have families and obligations to take care of. So he makes millions? Does that make him immune to life's problems/concerns? I hate to burst your bubble but the answer is an emphatic NO.

 

[Black]

Richard Seymour-DL- Raiders Sep. 7 - 9:16 am et According to SI.com's Peter King, Richard Seymour is "angry" about his recent trade from the Patriots to the Raiders.Can you blame him? "I would not be surprised if he doesn't report," said a source close to Seymour, though King points out that it's an unlikely scenario. Seymour wouldn't hit free agency next March if he sat out the 2009 season. and so it begins.....

How long til Belichick gets a burning bag of dog poo on his front stoop?

 

[az_prof]

There is already talk that the Raiders will slap the franchise tag on him after this season.

If that happens, Angry won't be a strong enough adjective..................

Maybe I am missing something here, but why would he be angry with the franchise tag? Wouldnt that pay him over $20 million a year next year?

because its like going from working at a 5 star restaurant and getting shipped to burger king

I work in a nice place now for ok money...but if I got offered a gig at BK for let's say a million a year...I'd be happy as hell.I don't feel one bit sorry for athletes that get paid a gazillion dollars...boohoo..suck it up dude and play.

That's because you don't have talent that is worth more. He does. And maybe he values his freedom to live where he wants and work for a company that he wants. I don't get this attitude that says: they make more money than I do so they should be happy. As if the only thing that matters is money.

 

[-baller]

I currently work for a fantastic boss in a place where I feel a strong sense of pride to just walk in the door each day. It truly is a privilege and honor to be part of something great with people who work hard, are very capable, have fun, and feel like family.

Your "fantastic boss" just traded you to Oakland less than a week before the start of the season, maybe he wasn't so fantastic after all. And I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for any of that "family" to say something in support of you publicly. BB just booted you to purgatory just like he will anyone else if it's in his best interest. NE is not a family, it's BB, Tom Brady, and supporting cast. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, I just get annoyed when people try and paint NE as some sort NFL version of Xanadu, where all is happy and joyful and everyone gets along.

Thank you for your insight. I'm sure Seymour didn't feel like he was an important part of a team, had no friends on the team and is relieved to be away from that hot mess. I think that was him dancing in the street to Kool and the Gang's "Celebration".

FUBAR's right. Just because RS is making more jack that all of us on this board put together does not mean he won't get upset over his changing situation. It's a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with money. We've had job assignments/temporary relocations forced on us that we didn't like; NFL/MLB/NHL/NBA players are no different. They have families and obligations to take care of. So he makes millions? Does that make him immune to life's problems/concerns? I hate to burst your bubble but the answer is an emphatic NO.

no, it doesn't mean he won't be upset, it just means he should appreciate what he has and not cry about his millionaire 'problems'.it also means he's not in much of a pitiable position.

 

[FUBAR]

and as far as the pats being a 'family', or whatever, people need to learn to start taking responsibility for their own actions.the universe doesn't revolve around you or anybody else.the pats have a history of taking care of players when they weren't compelled to by rule, but every time some guy gets moved because he wants to 'git paid' some people get all bloated and cramped about it.you pick your poison --- team or money, it's the very few lucky ones who get both.take a look at the pay cut moss took to escape oakland and move on over to the pats, and get back to me on that.

What has Seymour said or done to show he just wants to "git paid"? If he has, I've missed it; and if he has, then he loses the right to be upset by this.

 

[-baller]

I don't get this attitude that says: they make more money than I do so they should be happy. As if the only thing that matters is money.

thenyou don't get richard seymour, because what matters to him is money and that's why he's in oakland right now.ask randy moss about that.

 

[FUBAR]

I currently work for a fantastic boss in a place where I feel a strong sense of pride to just walk in the door each day. It truly is a privilege and honor to be part of something great with people who work hard, are very capable, have fun, and feel like family.

Your "fantastic boss" just traded you to Oakland less than a week before the start of the season, maybe he wasn't so fantastic after all. And I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for any of that "family" to say something in support of you publicly. BB just booted you to purgatory just like he will anyone else if it's in his best interest. NE is not a family, it's BB, Tom Brady, and supporting cast. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, I just get annoyed when people try and paint NE as some sort NFL version of Xanadu, where all is happy and joyful and everyone gets along.

Thank you for your insight. I'm sure Seymour didn't feel like he was an important part of a team, had no friends on the team and is relieved to be away from that hot mess. I think that was him dancing in the street to Kool and the Gang's "Celebration".

FUBAR's right. Just because RS is making more jack that all of us on this board put together does not mean he won't get upset over his changing situation. It's a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with money. We've had job assignments/temporary relocations forced on us that we didn't like; NFL/MLB/NHL/NBA players are no different. They have families and obligations to take care of. So he makes millions? Does that make him immune to life's problems/concerns? I hate to burst your bubble but the answer is an emphatic NO.

no, it doesn't mean he won't be upset, it just means he should appreciate what he has and not cry about his millionaire 'problems'.it also means he's not in much of a pitiable position.

what in any of this tells you he's crying about his millionaire problems? He's apparently upset because he was discarded a week before the season, millionaire or not. Also, nobody is saying we should pity him; just that we understand how someone would be upset in this or a similar situation.Honestly, have you worked for an organization that you value? More than just employment. It appears not, and I only hope that you do someday.

 

[Mustang Man]

Classy move by the Pats. I am sure their vets that have got them 2-3 super bowls feel real good about their situation right now.

Of coarse it is a great trade but you do need to have your players backs at some point. I believe that the players on that team feel really bad for him and some disgust for the Patriots and whomever made that move one week before the season. It is a business yes but you do want your players to feel as if they are part of a family and can trust and believe in the organization. Now maybe they let him know before it went down that there was a possibility he may be traded but if they just laid it on him man that is a cheap shot after what he has done for them.

Anyone know if Seymour was aware he might be getting traded? Was there local talk or was this a surprise? Yes I know the Pats prolly were not going to resign him and got a sweet deal. The Raiders are the most f'ed up franchise in the league and do we not have to start thinking about collusion between these two (Raiders and Pats) LOL. Moss for a 4th and Seymour for a 1st. WOW.

 

[-baller]

Honestly, have you worked for an organization that you value? More than just employment. It appears not, and I only hope that you do someday.

 

[FUBAR]

Anyone know if Seymour was aware he might be getting traded? Was there local talk or was this a surprise? Yes I know the Pats prolly were not going to resign him and got a sweet deal. The Raiders are the most f'ed up franchise in the league and do we not have to start thinking about collusion between these two (Raiders and Pats) LOL. Moss for a 4th and Seymour for a 1st. WOW.

Don't forget Burgess. Doubt it's collusion, but much like some FF leagues, this is an example of an intelligent owner and GM taking advantage of an incompetent one.

 

[timschochet]

I don't get this attitude that says: they make more money than I do so they should be happy. As if the only thing that matters is money.

thenyou don't get richard seymour, because what matters to him is money and that's why he's in oakland right now.ask randy moss about that.

Translation: Seymour wanted to be paid what the market says he deserves, the Patriots are cheap, and gambled they don't need him to win. That gamble may pay off or it may not. But please don't try to paint this picture of the Patriots as selfless teammates, only concerned about winning, all of them willing to take less money to do so, and a miscreant like Seymour doesn't belong. Talk about revisionism.

 

[FUBAR]

Honestly, have you worked for an organization that you value? More than just employment. It appears not, and I only hope that you do someday.

I take that as a "no". Too bad really, there's more to life than money. (and yes, I realize Seymour had been asking for a raise)

 

[timschochet]

Classy move by the Pats. I am sure their vets that have got them 2-3 super bowls feel real good about their situation right now.

Of coarse it is a great trade but you do need to have your players backs at some point. I believe that the players on that team feel really bad for him and some disgust for the Patriots and whomever made that move one week before the season. It is a business yes but you do want your players to feel as if they are part of a family and can trust and believe in the organization. Now maybe they let him know before it went down that there was a possibility he may be traded but if they just laid it on him man that is a cheap shot after what he has done for them.

Anyone know if Seymour was aware he might be getting traded? Was there local talk or was this a surprise? Yes I know the Pats prolly were not going to resign him and got a sweet deal. The Raiders are the most f'ed up franchise in the league and do we not have to start thinking about collusion between these two (Raiders and Pats) LOL. Moss for a 4th and Seymour for a 1st. WOW.

That last SB win was five years ago. How many veterans are left from that team? Or from the first two? Not many, I would think. (I honestly don't know.)

 

[-baller]

Classy move by the Pats. I am sure their vets that have got them 2-3 super bowls feel real good about their situation right now. Of coarse it is a great trade but you do need to have your players backs at some point. I believe that the players on that team feel really bad for him and some disgust for the Patriots and whomever made that move one week before the season. It is a business yes but you do want your players to feel as if they are part of a family and can trust and believe in the organization. Now maybe they let him know before it went down that there was a possibility he may be traded but if they just laid it on him man that is a cheap shot after what he has done for them.Anyone know if Seymour was aware he might be getting traded? Was there local talk or was this a surprise? Yes I know the Pats prolly were not going to resign him and got a sweet deal. The Raiders are the most f'ed up franchise in the league and do we not have to start thinking about collusion between these two (Raiders and Pats) LOL. Moss for a 4th and Seymour for a 1st. WOW.

yeah -- what'd they give oakland for burgess?I won't go so far as to pretend I know what any involved parties were thinking, or what they did or didn't know or had discussed, but seymour was in a fairly difficult situation regarding his contract, and if he had a half a brain in his head, or if his agent did, it shouldn't come as any surprise to him that the pats took action, considering their history in these types of situations.I'll admit it came as an initial surprise to me, but in retrospect it probably shouldn't have.edit: there was actually a lot of discussion about the seymour problem much earlier in the year --- it's mostly the timing that's surprising.

 

[T Bell]

There is already talk that the Raiders will slap the franchise tag on him after this season.

If that happens, Angry won't be a strong enough adjective..................

Maybe I am missing something here, but why would he be angry with the franchise tag? Wouldnt that pay him over $20 million a year next year?

because its like going from working at a 5 star restaurant and getting shipped to burger king

I work in a nice place now for ok money...but if I got offered a gig at BK for let's say a million a year...I'd be happy as hell.I don't feel one bit sorry for athletes that get paid a gazillion dollars...boohoo..suck it up dude and play.

Some people have higher career aims than you do, especially when they make such a large physical sacrifice to do what they do. Seymour is used to winning and being on a professionally run, highly organized and disciplined team. I'm sure that makes the physical toll that football takes on his body far more palatable than going to a team more known over the last six years for losing consistently and having coaches attacking each other (and team spokesmen attacking the media).

 

[-baller]

Honestly, have you worked for an organization that you value? More than just employment. It appears not, and I only hope that you do someday.

I take that as a "no". Too bad really, there's more to life than money. (and yes, I realize Seymour had been asking for a raise)

seems like you could just have the whole discussion inside your head.

 

[Wadsworth]

Honestly, have you worked for an organization that you value? More than just employment. It appears not, and I only hope that you do someday.

I take that as a "no". Too bad really, there's more to life than money. (and yes, I realize Seymour had been asking for a raise)

If I worked for a company that I loved and valued more than just a job and they did this to me I'd reconsider my previous view of the company.

 

[-baller]

I don't get this attitude that says: they make more money than I do so they should be happy. As if the only thing that matters is money.

thenyou don't get richard seymour, because what matters to him is money and that's why he's in oakland right now.ask randy moss about that.

Translation: Seymour wanted to be paid what the market says he deserves, the Patriots are cheap, and gambled they don't need him to win. That gamble may pay off or it may not. But please don't try to paint this picture of the Patriots as selfless teammates, only concerned about winning, all of them willing to take less money to do so, and a miscreant like Seymour doesn't belong. Talk about revisionism.

I'd be very, very interested on you expanding on that, but I'll have to continue the discussion later.so, could you just explain that one for me?

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

He should be angry, I know I would be.

yeah?you'd only have yourself to blame --- maybe if he'd been more willing to work w/the team on a contract instead of tryin to 'git paid' he'd still be w/the pats right now.I miss seymour, but that dude made his own bed.like the other guy said, I don't feel sorry for anybody making millions every year.

I never said I felt sorry for him, I just don't blame him for being angry; he has a right to be.As for making his own bed, I can't argue with that; he would have been gone next year in search of more dollars and NE did what they felt was best for them long term.

 

[DropKick]

I don't get this attitude that says: they make more money than I do so they should be happy. As if the only thing that matters is money.

thenyou don't get richard seymour, because what matters to him is money and that's why he's in oakland right now.ask randy moss about that.

Translation: Seymour wanted to be paid what the market says he deserves, the Patriots are cheap, and gambled they don't need him to win. That gamble may pay off or it may not. But please don't try to paint this picture of the Patriots as selfless teammates, only concerned about winning, all of them willing to take less money to do so, and a miscreant like Seymour doesn't belong. Talk about revisionism.

I wouldn't say the Patriots are cheap... Working within the salary cap structure (the NFL's implementation of parity) you can only budget so much to so many positions. If you overpay too often, you will pay the price elsewhere. It comes down to value; a term we constantly use as fantasy owners.

 

[-baller]

He should be angry, I know I would be.

yeah?you'd only have yourself to blame --- maybe if he'd been more willing to work w/the team on a contract instead of tryin to 'git paid' he'd still be w/the pats right now.

I miss seymour, but that dude made his own bed.

like the other guy said, I don't feel sorry for anybody making millions every year.

I never said I felt sorry for him, I just don't blame him for being angry; he has a right to be.As for making his own bed, I can't argue with that; he would have been gone next year in search of more dollars and NE did what they felt was best for them long term.

so, I guess what you're saying is he's angry at himself?

 

[Native]

I wonder if Bellicheck broke the news to him in person.

 

[timschochet]

I don't get this attitude that says: they make more money than I do so they should be happy. As if the only thing that matters is money.

thenyou don't get richard seymour, because what matters to him is money and that's why he's in oakland right now.ask randy moss about that.

Translation: Seymour wanted to be paid what the market says he deserves, the Patriots are cheap, and gambled they don't need him to win. That gamble may pay off or it may not. But please don't try to paint this picture of the Patriots as selfless teammates, only concerned about winning, all of them willing to take less money to do so, and a miscreant like Seymour doesn't belong. Talk about revisionism.

I'd be very, very interested on you expanding on that, but I'll have to continue the discussion later.so, could you just explain that one for me?

Like my Steelers, the Pats don't have a history of signing high-priced free agents. Also, like my Steelers, they are quick to let big name players leave who they think have passed their prime. I don't blame them. These two organizations are at the top of the heap for a good reason. Perhaps I shoudn't have used the word cheap. Thrifty is a better word.

 

[T Bell]

I don't get this attitude that says: they make more money than I do so they should be happy. As if the only thing that matters is money.

thenyou don't get richard seymour, because what matters to him is money and that's why he's in oakland right now.ask randy moss about that.

Translation: Seymour wanted to be paid what the market says he deserves, the Patriots are cheap, and gambled they don't need him to win. That gamble may pay off or it may not. But please don't try to paint this picture of the Patriots as selfless teammates, only concerned about winning, all of them willing to take less money to do so, and a miscreant like Seymour doesn't belong. Talk about revisionism.

I wouldn't say the Patriots are cheap... Working within the salary cap structure (the NFL's implementation of parity) you can only budget so much to so many positions. If you overpay too often, you will pay the price elsewhere. It comes down to value; a term we constantly use as fantasy owners.

The word to apply to the Patriots under Belichick is "ruthless". They're all about winning and doing so efficiently as it relates to the cap and actual outlay of dollars. Everything else is subordinate to those two goals, including "loyalty" to players. You either help them accomplish their goals, or you are expendable.

 

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Honestly, have you worked for an organization that you value? More than just employment. It appears not, and I only hope that you do someday.

I take that as a "no". Too bad really, there's more to life than money. (and yes, I realize Seymour had been asking for a raise)

If I worked for a company that I loved and valued more than just a job and they did this to me I'd reconsider my previous view of the company.

depending on the circumstances, you probably should. Without going too far on a tangent, there can be other reasons for trading or firing someone. But I might also feel a sense of disappointment and perhaps betrayal, which often manifests itself into anger.