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Rick Gosselin's Final Mock and top 100 is out: (1 Viewer)

Just to clarify:

Gosselin is interesting, he doesn't scout these players. His rankings, and his mock, which should be out today or tomorrow, comes strictly from his contacts in the league. He is slotting players based on his discussions with NFL scouts, execs, etc.

 
For me the most surprising were:

36. Paul Krueger

53. Everette Brown

54. Alex Magee

62. Michael Johnson

No Chase Coffman doesn't surprise me. His stock has been slipping. Duke Robinson that low isn't surprising, but the fact he has multiple guards in front of him does.

 
massraider said:
Just to clarify:Gosselin is interesting, he doesn't scout these players. His rankings, and his mock, which should be out today or tomorrow, comes strictly from his contacts in the league. He is slotting players based on his discussions with NFL scouts, execs, etc.
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The guy has some good "ins".
 
massraider said:
Just to clarify:Gosselin is interesting, he doesn't scout these players. His rankings, and his mock, which should be out today or tomorrow, comes strictly from his contacts in the league. He is slotting players based on his discussions with NFL scouts, execs, etc.
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And he's right moreso than the other experts as a result. Always an interesting read.
 
think he was the one that ranked chris henry rb really high after finding out tennessee had him very high on their board

 
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.

The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.

Jenkins to GB

Freeman to MIN

Kruger to MIA

Maualuga to BAL

Ayers to TB

 
massraider said:
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.Jenkins to GBFreeman to MINKruger to MIAMaualuga to BALAyers to TB
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Not to mention Jerry to NE. :confused: This would definately shock me as we don't need another DT with big Vince supposedly being signed long term in the near future. I know it might be the best available player theory but DT is the last thing we need.
 
massraider said:
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.Jenkins to GBFreeman to MINKruger to MIAMaualuga to BALAyers to TB
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Jenkins is not going to Green Bay.
 
On TV last night, I saw Mike Mayock's Top-100 scrolling across the screen. Does anybody know where we can find Mayock's Top-100? I'd like to compare it Gosselin's Top-100.

 
Weiner Dog said:
On TV last night, I saw Mike Mayock's Top-100 scrolling across the screen. Does anybody know where we can find Mayock's Top-100? I'd like to compare it Gosselin's Top-100.
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Only found his top 20 so far:Rk Player Pos. School Pro Day workout1. Eugene Monroe OT Virginia Brandt: OT Monroe excels in position drills2. Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech Brandt: Crabtree sits out pro day after surgery3. Robert Ayers DE Tennessee Brandt: Ayers asked to display versatility4. Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia Brandt: Moreno ailing at pro day | Wyche: RB drops seven pounds5. Percy Harvin WR Florida Brandt: Harvin showcases skills at Florida's pro day6. Jason Smith OT Baylor Brandt: Smith attracts many scouts7. Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest Wyche: LB Curry draws lots of eyes | Wyche: Curry wants to go No. 18. Andre Smith OT Alabama Brandt: Smith turns in poor times at pro day9. B.J. Raji DT Boston College Brandt: Raji participates in positional drills10. Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State Brandt: Pettigrew's workout put on hold11. Mark Sanchez QB USC Tadych: Sanchez turns in solid pro day12. Peria Jerry DT Mississippi Brandt: Jerry runs 40 at pro day13. Matthew Stafford QB Georgia Wyche: Stafford brings a crowd to Georgia | Brandt: QB is focal point14. Tyson Jackson DE LSU Brandt: Jackson performs in front of big crowd15. Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State Brandt: Jenkins tries to improve 40-yard dash times16. Vontae Davis CB Illinois Brandt: Davis impresses at pro day17. Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri Brandt: Maclin does full workout18. Josh Freeman QB Kansas State Brandt: Freeman is a hot prospect19. Darius Butler CB Connecticut Brandt: Butler flashes his outstanding athleticism20. Michael Oher OT Mississippi Brandt: Oher improves on 40 time
 
ROCKET said:
massraider said:
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.Jenkins to GBFreeman to MINKruger to MIAMaualuga to BALAyers to TB
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Not to mention Jerry to NE. :goodposting: This would definately shock me as we don't need another DT with big Vince supposedly being signed long term in the near future. I know it might be the best available player theory but DT is the last thing we need.
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While I agree that you can never have enough beef up-front a pick like this would be basically using a #1 for a backup. That doesn't make too much sense. If the Pats go D-line early my guess is they would target someone who can either play all three line positions or someone who could potentially replace Seymour after this year (I wouldn't be surprised to see this be his last year in Foxboro).
 
3C said:
Weiner Dog said:
On TV last night, I saw Mike Mayock's Top-100 scrolling across the screen. Does anybody know where we can find Mayock's Top-100? I'd like to compare it Gosselin's Top-100.
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Only found his top 20 so far:Rk Player Pos. School Pro Day workout

1.

Eugene Monroe OT Virginia Brandt: OT Monroe excels in position drills

2.

Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech Brandt: Crabtree sits out pro day after surgery

3.

Robert Ayers DE Tennessee Brandt: Ayers asked to display versatility

4.

Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia Brandt: Moreno ailing at pro day | Wyche: RB drops seven pounds

5.

Percy Harvin WR Florida Brandt: Harvin showcases skills at Florida's pro day

6.

Jason Smith OT Baylor Brandt: Smith attracts many scouts

7.

Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest Wyche: LB Curry draws lots of eyes | Wyche: Curry wants to go No. 1

8.

Andre Smith OT Alabama Brandt: Smith turns in poor times at pro day

9.

B.J. Raji DT Boston College Brandt: Raji participates in positional drills

10.

Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State Brandt: Pettigrew's workout put on hold

11.

Mark Sanchez QB USC Tadych: Sanchez turns in solid pro day

12.

Peria Jerry DT Mississippi Brandt: Jerry runs 40 at pro day

13.

Matthew Stafford QB Georgia Wyche: Stafford brings a crowd to Georgia | Brandt: QB is focal point

14.

Tyson Jackson DE LSU Brandt: Jackson performs in front of big crowd

15.

Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State Brandt: Jenkins tries to improve 40-yard dash times

16.

Vontae Davis CB Illinois Brandt: Davis impresses at pro day

17.

Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri Brandt: Maclin does full workout

18.

Josh Freeman QB Kansas State Brandt: Freeman is a hot prospect

19.

Darius Butler CB Connecticut Brandt: Butler flashes his outstanding athleticism

20.

Michael Oher OT Mississippi Brandt: Oher improves on 40 time
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Thanks. It also looks like Mayock updated his positional rankings yesterday.link:

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story?id=090...mp;confirm=true

Notables:

** Sanchez last second move ahead of Stafford (Lions effect?)

** McCoy still #4 RB despite lousy Pro-Day

** Harvin #2 WR

** Robiskie > Nicks and Britt

** E Brown as #3 DE despite being nearly MIA in Gosselin's rankings

** Ayres > T Jackson at DE despite rumored high demand for Jackson in the past few weeks

** Ingram > both Nelson and Cook at TE. Mayock has liked Ingram for awhile now

 
WOW Rick Gosselin's top 100 is out I've been so waiting for this!!!

um wtf is a Rick Gosselin and why is this of interest again?

 
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I will trust the folks who like his stuff, but saying the Giants will take a DT in the 1st round is pure craziness as they are too deep there right now.

 
brutha said:
WOW Rick Gosselin's top 100 is out I've been so waiting for this!!!um wtf is a Rick Gosselin and why is this of interest again?
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he is alleged to be the most accurate mock-drafter...I think he is overrated.I guess we'll see what happens.. mark sanchez going 13th? i guess that could happen... Probably it is hard for him to factor in trades... but I would be surpirsed if Sanchez had a Aaron Rodgers/Brady Quinn like fall out of the top 10. it seems that the Skins, Jets, or a surprise team would covet him and trade up (I dont understand why the Bills dont get him.. that loser Edwards isnt the answer). .but what do I know.. I don't have a column or NFL contacts
 
drdgreenlove said:
brutha said:
WOW Rick Gosselin's top 100 is out I've been so waiting for this!!!

um wtf is a Rick Gosselin and why is this of interest again?
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he is alleged to be the most accurate mock-drafter...I think he is overrated.

I guess we'll see what happens..
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There is no 'alleged' about it:Out of his top 100: 87, 86, and 87 have been drafted in the top 100 the last three years. http://www.thehuddlereport.com/Free/top100rankings.shtml

Mock draft? He ranks #1 in a 3 year average (http://www.thehuddlereport.com/Free/mockdraftrankings.shtml)

Now, his mock being the most accurate out there still means he misses more than most of his picks. Just the nature of the mock draft.

 
bcr8f said:
massraider said:
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.Jenkins to GBFreeman to MINKruger to MIAMaualuga to BALAyers to TB
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Jenkins is not going to Green Bay.
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If TT selects Jenkins, I will be deeply disappointed.
 
Liquid Tension said:
I will trust the folks who like his stuff, but saying the Giants will take a DT in the 1st round is pure craziness as they are too deep there right now.
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That one and the Jerry to the Pats picks are the only two that are real headscratchers. Hood to the Pats seems more plausible since Jerry is thought to be a bad fit in a 3-4. Hood would be better there.
 
Michael Fox said:
bcr8f said:
massraider said:
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.Jenkins to GBFreeman to MINKruger to MIAMaualuga to BALAyers to TB
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Jenkins is not going to Green Bay.
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If TT selects Jenkins, I will be deeply disappointed.
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You shouldn't. He was widely considered a top 5 pick up until the Combine. Woodson and Harris are starting to get long in the tooth.
 
Steed said:
Michael Fox said:
bcr8f said:
massraider said:
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.Jenkins to GBFreeman to MINKruger to MIAMaualuga to BALAyers to TB
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Jenkins is not going to Green Bay.
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If TT selects Jenkins, I will be deeply disappointed.
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You shouldn't. He was widely considered a top 5 pick up until the Combine. Woodson and Harris are starting to get long in the tooth.
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Everything I've read says that he isn't an elite CB, and might play S at the next level. If accurate, that makes him a bad pick at #9
 
Steed said:
Michael Fox said:
bcr8f said:
massraider said:
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.Jenkins to GBFreeman to MINKruger to MIAMaualuga to BALAyers to TB
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Jenkins is not going to Green Bay.
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If TT selects Jenkins, I will be deeply disappointed.
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You shouldn't. He was widely considered a top 5 pick up until the Combine. Woodson and Harris are starting to get long in the tooth.
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Agreed. I wouldn't be upset with Jenkins. He is easily in my top 9 as far as talent and BPA. I also believe he plays CB extremely well.
 
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Who is Antonio Rodgers-Cromartie? Is he Dominique's brother and can he cover Santionio better than DRC? :yes:

If his mock is accurate, Denver wins the draft with Raji and Orakpo.

 
Kleck said:
I imagine Denver fans would be happy getting Raji and Orakpo.
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That would be quite a coup. I'd be surprised to see that happen.So we've got someone comparing Moreno to Payton and now Gosselin comparing him to Emmitt. :o What's this guy gonna do his first season, rush for 3000 yards or 3500?
 
massraider said:
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.Jenkins to GBFreeman to MINKruger to MIAMaualuga to BALAyers to TB
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I thought it was interesting reading this thread, with the benefit of hindsight. In particular, the above picks that we should "pay attention to" were complete busts.
 
Something you have to keep in mind with Gosselin's mock drafts. He does three every year. His first mock always leans toward his draft board, the second mock leans toward team need and the third mock will be the players he thinks each team should draft with their selections on the clock.

 
Michael Fox said:
massraider said:
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.Jenkins to GBFreeman to MINKruger to MIAMaualuga to BALAyers to TB
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I thought it was interesting reading this thread, with the benefit of hindsight. In particular, the above picks that we should "pay attention to" were complete busts.
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Yep, time for Robert Ayers to retire.
 
Michael Fox said:
massraider said:
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.

The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.

Jenkins to GB

Freeman to MIN

Kruger to MIA

Maualuga to BAL

Ayers to TB
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I thought it was interesting reading this thread, with the benefit of hindsight. In particular, the above picks that we should "pay attention to" were complete busts.
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I don't watch much of the Bengals, but I thought that Rey M played well until he was hurt.
 
massraiders not saying the players were busts

hes saying gosselins insight into where they were going was wrong

 
Blackjacks said:
When will this come out for this year?
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Saw a chat with him recently, and he mentioned the day before the draft. He used to do it earlier, but I think he might've had a few draftniks copying his work, so he pushed it back. I don't know that for certain, but the theory has been raised before.
 
Truman said:
Michael Fox said:
massraider said:
There is so much uncertainty this year, that if there is one curveball, I think a lot of these mocks will be off. One thing I noticed is the top of his draft seems to be a lot like the others, which kinda makes me think no one really knows how it's gonna go down, who is gonna make a trade, and who is bluffing. Its pretty apparent tho, that he thinks the Skins make the Sanchez deal.The thing about Gosselin, is that the picks to pay attention to with him are the ones that no one else has.Jenkins to GBFreeman to MINKruger to MIAMaualuga to BALAyers to TB
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I thought it was interesting reading this thread, with the benefit of hindsight. In particular, the above picks that we should "pay attention to" were complete busts.
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Yep, time for Robert Ayers to retire.
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:goodposting: Uh, chief, by "busts" I meant that Gosselin was completely wrong about which team drafted the player. Which, you know, is the primary objective of a mock draft.
 
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