Rob Ryan Meltdown? (1 Viewer)

[greenline]

I caught the tail end of a a segment on the NFL Network tonight and Rich Eisen mentioned that Raiders DC Rob Ryan had a little meltdown. Does anyone have a link? I couldn't seem to find anything.

Hope this isn't a HONDA.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

He should be fired. No ifs-ands-or-buts.

The Raiders are choking themsleves out. Its similar to Cincinnati.

 

[greenline]

He should be fired. No ifs-ands-or-buts.

The Raiders are choking themsleves out. Its similar to Cincinnati.

Can you summarize what happened?

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Haven't heard anything, but not surprising given the tensions that exist between general management and coaching staff. Unfortunately, Al Davis and Lane Kiffin are at odds, which undoubtedly does not help this franchise refocus on winning. Kiffin wanted to hire a new DC, Davis wouldn't let him, so there is doubtless bad blood between Ryan and Kiffin.

Raiders don't need to just fix their on-field product -- it's the brass in the box and the coaches on the sidelines that need to reaadjust their commitment to excellence.

 

[CalBear]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...001&sc=1000

Ryan refuted Kiffin's notion that Ryan meets with Davis to map out plans during the season. Ryan said they do their meetings in the offseason, not between games.

"I don't meet with him on game plans or come up with all this," Ryan said. "I'll have 4-hour conversations with him in the offseason about everything in this league.

"But during the week, I don't have time to talk to my wife, OK? If I'm going to make one phone call, it's going to be her, all right?"

 

[BigSteelThrill]

He should be fired. No ifs-ands-or-buts.

The Raiders are choking themsleves out. Its similar to Cincinnati.

Can you summarize what happened?

The Raiders played a vanilla preseason defense the entire opening game.Raider fans at the game thought Ryan was undermining Kiffin and has been. Seriously.

The Raiders blitzed 4 times in total. 3 by the SLB.

The played a flat zone/man the entirety.

Kiffin stated flatly - he doesnt have the ability to make changes on defense. It wasnt him. ]

(which he doesnt. and it wasnt)

Ryan responded.

 

[greenline]

I always think back to when Mangini was the secondary coach with the Patriots and tried to leave to go to Oakland to become the the Raiders DC. Belichick swayed him to stay by positioning him to take over the Pats DC job. Rob Ryan was the linebackers coach in New England then and ended up getting the Raiders gig. I wonder what it would have been like if Mangini had gone.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

And what is thought to be a statistical anomaly:

Monday Night, the Oakland Raider defense...

Did NOT record a single sack, nor a single ball batted down, nor a single quartback pressure.

 

[greenline]

He should be fired. No ifs-ands-or-buts.

The Raiders are choking themsleves out. Its similar to Cincinnati.

Can you summarize what happened?

The Raiders played a vanilla reseason defense the entire opening game.Raider fans at the game thought Ryan was undermining Kiffin and has been. Seriously.

The Raiders blitzed 4 times in total. 3 by the SLB.

The played a flat zone/man the entirety.

Kiffin stated flatly - he doesnt have the ability to make changes on defense. It wasnt him. ]

(which he doesnt. and it wasnt)

Ryan responded.

Crazy. I can't imagine that stuff happening with any other franchise.

 

[fatness]

Defensive coordinator Rob Ryan had some choice words for critics who hammered away at the Raiders following the 41-14 loss to Denver and in an obvious shot at head coach Lane Kiffin denied reports that he meets with owner Al Davis to go over the team’s weekly gameplans.

A day after Kiffin distanced himself from the defense following the Raiders’ 41-14 loss to Denver on Monday night, Ryan took to the podium following practice Thursday and proceeded to go on an 18-minute, obscenity-laced rant. The theme of Ryan’s rage: Blame him and no one else for Oakland’s disappointing defensive performance.

“That’s all on me,” Ryan said. “I put the game plan in, I run the defense and it’s all on me. I just want to set it straight because I’ve been here five years and I don’t think people necessarily have the right story. I’m disappointed but I just wanted to tell my side of the story for once because there’s so many other things that come out where I have to read it and take it and I just want the truth as I know the truth.” Ryan was adamant that he and Davis don’t confer about the weekly gameplan, contrary to a quote from Kiffin on Wednesday that suggested the two men meet regularly. He also defended the team’s decision not to blitz as much as critics and players might prefer.

Denver quarterback Jay Cutler passed for 299 yards and two touchdowns but wasn’t sacked once nor was he ever pressured. The Raiders didn’t register a single quarterback hurry nor did they knock down one pass.

“If I don’t blitz then there’s a reason for it,” Ryan said. “If I do there’s a reason for it. If we get beat for a damned touchdown during an all-out blitz, well then obviously I had a poor call. If I hit them for a safety or whatever, all right, it was a good call. But everything I do up here is educated. It may not look like it when you give up 41 points but it’s the truth. I’m doing the best job I can and I know it’s good enough to win with.

“Did last week look like the (bleeping) ‘85 Bears? No, you know we didn’t (bleeping) look like the ‘85 Bears. But maybe it looked like the (bleeping) Patriots when we won the Super Bowl and went out there and laid an egg against Cincinnati at Cincinnati, who had a (bleeping) team and beat the (crud) out of us the first game. Maybe it looked like that.”

Ryan worked himself into a mini-lather as he went along, saving his harshest criticism for the reports that he meets with Davis to work on the weekly gameplan. “Not on a week-to-week basis, absolutely not,” Ryan said. “When I deal with Al Davis it’s in the offseason. And here’s the thing: Al Davis knows football. I’ll have four-hour conversations with him in the offseason about everything in this league. About offense, about players, about scheme, about everything. But during the week I don’t have time to talk to my wife. That’s the truth. I literally had one conversation with Mr. Davis last week and it was about Fred Wakefield.”

On Wednesday Kiffin told reporters that he could not answer for the team’s defense. “Rob and the owner are always in communication,” Kiffin said. “For the most part I let Rob do his thing over there. He has a belief in certain things and he has a conversation with the owner about that.” Yet shortly after Ryan finished talking to reporters, a team spokesman went into the press room to tell reporters that Kiffin -- despite his insistence otherwise -- is consulted about the defense.

Whatever the case, it’s clear the rift between Kiffin and Davis continues to grow while Ryan is willing to go along as the loyal company man. The worst part is that the situation between the three men is likely to get worse before the season ends.

Scout.com

 

[redjake]

Defensive coordinator Rob Ryan had some choice words for critics who hammered away at the Raiders following the 41-14 loss to Denver and in an obvious shot at head coach Lane Kiffin denied reports that he meets with owner Al Davis to go over the team’s weekly gameplans.

A day after Kiffin distanced himself from the defense following the Raiders’ 41-14 loss to Denver on Monday night, Ryan took to the podium following practice Thursday and proceeded to go on an 18-minute, obscenity-laced rant. The theme of Ryan’s rage: Blame him and no one else for Oakland’s disappointing defensive performance.

“That’s all on me,” Ryan said. “I put the game plan in, I run the defense and it’s all on me. I just want to set it straight because I’ve been here five years and I don’t think people necessarily have the right story. I’m disappointed but I just wanted to tell my side of the story for once because there’s so many other things that come out where I have to read it and take it and I just want the truth as I know the truth.” Ryan was adamant that he and Davis don’t confer about the weekly gameplan, contrary to a quote from Kiffin on Wednesday that suggested the two men meet regularly. He also defended the team’s decision not to blitz as much as critics and players might prefer.

Denver quarterback Jay Cutler passed for 299 yards and two touchdowns but wasn’t sacked once nor was he ever pressured. The Raiders didn’t register a single quarterback hurry nor did they knock down one pass.

“If I don’t blitz then there’s a reason for it,” Ryan said. “If I do there’s a reason for it. If we get beat for a damned touchdown during an all-out blitz, well then obviously I had a poor call. If I hit them for a safety or whatever, all right, it was a good call. But everything I do up here is educated. It may not look like it when you give up 41 points but it’s the truth. I’m doing the best job I can and I know it’s good enough to win with.

“Did last week look like the (bleeping) ‘85 Bears? No, you know we didn’t (bleeping) look like the ‘85 Bears. But maybe it looked like the (bleeping) Patriots when we won the Super Bowl and went out there and laid an egg against Cincinnati at Cincinnati, who had a (bleeping) team and beat the (crud) out of us the first game. Maybe it looked like that.”

Ryan worked himself into a mini-lather as he went along, saving his harshest criticism for the reports that he meets with Davis to work on the weekly gameplan. “Not on a week-to-week basis, absolutely not,” Ryan said. “When I deal with Al Davis it’s in the offseason. And here’s the thing: Al Davis knows football. I’ll have four-hour conversations with him in the offseason about everything in this league. About offense, about players, about scheme, about everything. But during the week I don’t have time to talk to my wife. That’s the truth. I literally had one conversation with Mr. Davis last week and it was about Fred Wakefield.”

On Wednesday Kiffin told reporters that he could not answer for the team’s defense. “Rob and the owner are always in communication,” Kiffin said. “For the most part I let Rob do his thing over there. He has a belief in certain things and he has a conversation with the owner about that.” Yet shortly after Ryan finished talking to reporters, a team spokesman went into the press room to tell reporters that Kiffin -- despite his insistence otherwise -- is consulted about the defense.

Whatever the case, it’s clear the rift between Kiffin and Davis continues to grow while Ryan is willing to go along as the loyal company man. The worst part is that the situation between the three men is likely to get worse before the season ends.

Scout.com

Wow. That's #######' insane. What a bunch of women.

 

[Dr. J]

Any chance he goes the route of his dad and decks someone?

 

[Tick]

It sure seems like that franchise is hamstrung until Davis dies.

 

[AnonymousBob]

I don't care much for the Raiders but I'm becoming a bigger fan of Lane Kiffin with each passing day.

 

[Judge Smails]

Absolute joke of an organization. Davis is caught in a timewarp, in every way. The only bright side is I have numerous Broncos and Chargers on my roster so I'll get to feast on the silver and black often. Implode away.

 

[krsone21]

It sure seems like that franchise is hamstrung until Davis dies.

Raider fan here, unfortunately Tick you are correct, the Raiders will be a bad franchise from here on out until Davis moves on.

 

[krsone21]

I don't care much for the Raiders but I'm becoming a bigger fan of Lane Kiffin with each passing day.

Me too AnonymousBob, I like the fact that he won't put up with Davis's crap. Too bad for Raiders fans he will be gone probably before the season is over with, good for him though maybe he can get a real Headcoaching job with a good owner.

 

[Righetti]

I thought this was about the collumnist from the boston globe

 

[[scooter]]

Heard the audio on Cowherd this morning. Would make Ozzie Guillen and Earl Weaver proud.

 

[Twilight]

I don't care much for the Raiders but I'm becoming a bigger fan of Lane Kiffin with each passing day.

Me too AnonymousBob, I like the fact that he won't put up with Davis's crap. Too bad for Raiders fans he will be gone probably before the season is over with, good for him though maybe he can get a real Headcoaching job with a good owner.

With his age, it might take a little while, but he is going to treat games with the Raiders the same way as Shanahan does, as least as long as Al is alive.

 

[Sweetness_34]

And what is thought to be a statistical anomaly:Monday Night, the Oakland Raider defense...Did NOT record a single sack, nor a single ball batted down, nor a single quartback pressure.

This is why selling high on Eddie Royal in a re-draft league is the way to go.

 

[Jayrod]

I thought the Raiders might pull themselves together after being embarrassed by the Broncos and play a decent game against KC this weekend.

With this going on, I doubt that happens. KC is my new survivor pick.

 

[mightyeskimo]

Anyone got a video link to this?

 

[timschochet]

those of you who say you're fans of Lane Kiffin, please answer me this: what kind of head coach "distances" himself from the defense? How ridiculous is that? I have never heard an NFL coach say, "Well, I've got nothing to do with that; that's the defense." What a friggin circus!

Yes this goes back to Al Davis, and yes he is running this team into the ground and yes he never should have hired an inexperienced kid like Kiffin in the first place. But that doesn't mean Kiffin is any less a weasel. If you are a head coach, you take full responsibility, period. You don't blame other people in public, not players or other coaches or the owner. Show a little class. I would NEVER want Kiffin for my team, as he has displayed his true colors here.

 

[greenline]

those of you who say you're fans of Lane Kiffin, please answer me this: what kind of head coach "distances" himself from the defense? How ridiculous is that? I have never heard an NFL coach say, "Well, I've got nothing to do with that; that's the defense." What a friggin circus!Yes this goes back to Al Davis, and yes he is running this team into the ground and yes he never should have hired an inexperienced kid like Kiffin in the first place. But that doesn't mean Kiffin is any less a weasel. If you are a head coach, you take full responsibility, period. You don't blame other people in public, not players or other coaches or the owner. Show a little class. I would NEVER want Kiffin for my team, as he has displayed his true colors here.

 

[fatness]

It sure seems like that franchise is hamstrung until Davis dies.

It seems that Al Davis is mainly interested in rewarding or punishing those he likes or dislikes, and that how it affects the NFL team, play, and season is irrelevant to him any more.

 

[Twilight]

those of you who say you're fans of Lane Kiffin, please answer me this: what kind of head coach "distances" himself from the defense? How ridiculous is that? I have never heard an NFL coach say, "Well, I've got nothing to do with that; that's the defense." What a friggin circus!Yes this goes back to Al Davis, and yes he is running this team into the ground and yes he never should have hired an inexperienced kid like Kiffin in the first place. But that doesn't mean Kiffin is any less a weasel. If you are a head coach, you take full responsibility, period. You don't blame other people in public, not players or other coaches or the owner. Show a little class. I would NEVER want Kiffin for my team, as he has displayed his true colors here.

I really disagree. His owner has told him he doesn't want him, but is too cheap to fire him. His owner has adamantly refused to acknowledge any input from Kiffin on the make-up of the defense. He knows he's being judged, as the head coach, on something he doesn't have the power to change. Any coach, not just a 34 year old one, would respond similarly in this situation, especially when he knows he loses his job at the end of the year, and his future job prospects depend on how the defense plays.

 

[Cookiemonster]

those of you who say you're fans of Lane Kiffin, please answer me this: what kind of head coach "distances" himself from the defense? How ridiculous is that? I have never heard an NFL coach say, "Well, I've got nothing to do with that; that's the defense." What a friggin circus!Yes this goes back to Al Davis, and yes he is running this team into the ground and yes he never should have hired an inexperienced kid like Kiffin in the first place. But that doesn't mean Kiffin is any less a weasel. If you are a head coach, you take full responsibility, period. You don't blame other people in public, not players or other coaches or the owner. Show a little class. I would NEVER want Kiffin for my team, as he has displayed his true colors here.

Two bad postings.Do you follow the Raiders in any way? Have you not looked at the recent HC hires by Davis? He hires "yes" men for the equivalent of a middle of the road offensive coordinator. He hires big-name players to keep interest up going into the season. He doesn't pay coaches ####, however. He doesn't believe coaches can make as much difference as he can himself, by overpaying for big names that have had big plays at big times but not necessarily because of big talent. Gruden was the best coach Oakland has had in the last decade and he stood up to Davis, did things his own way and was run out of town for it. Kiffin reminds me very much of Gruden, but the late '90's & early 2000's Raiders managed to hit on several big-name guys that held up in Rod Woodson, Jerry Rice, Charles Woodson and caught lightening in a bottle w/ Gannon. It's well known here in N.Cali that Rob Ryan is a company man, and does things Al's way. Kiffen knows this defense is underachieving and has said as much. Yeah, he's not helping things by making public statements about his assistants or coordinators, but at this point Kid and Gramps are at a war. Al Davis wanted Kiffen gone this offseason, but is too ####### cheap to pay for his plane ticket out of town. Kiff wouldn't resign (leave w/o severance) and Al wouldn't pay him to leave. Kiff wanted to change D coordinators, and get more staff that shared in his vision and plan, and Davis basically told him to go #### himself. Kiff is what, the 5th HC in Oakland in 6 years - or something like that - and you want to put ANY of the blame on him, when he was stripped of all power (what little he had been given in the 1st place) when Kiff talked Davis into getting rid of R.Moss. Kiff didn't want a quitter for a team leader, and that's exactly what Moss had done. He quit on the Raiders. So Moss goes and blows up in NE, and with every TD Moss caught from Brady, Al's resentment grew for Kiffen for lobbying against keeping him. This has been a downhill slide ever since then, and it is every year because Al Davis won't man up and say that somebody else may have a better way of handling this team on the field. If it were up to Al Davis, he'd play man coverage, two deep on damn near every play. He'd try to run his outdated, vertical passing game with speedster WRs and a big-armed QB. Hmm... do Aso soup and D.Hall signings fit into this defensive scheme? Does J.Russell fit? How about J.Walker? J.L.Higgins? The one time this team was successful in the last 15 years was when Al made a mistake. He ended up with an offense that didn't fit his scheme. He got Rich Gannon, as a stopgap 'cause no big-armed QBs were interested in coming to Oakland at the time. He still had his Heisman winning Tim Brown. And he brought in a square peg in the aging but still very effective Jerry Rice to fit in his deep-threat round hole. Gannon made everything click and the offense turned top-notch, and that bugged the crap out of Davis. Gruden was doing well, going AGAINST Davis' wishes.Now, if Al Davis let Kiff have his way (or any coach for that matter) and he was successful, doing things different from Al's way, then Davis would have egg all over his face. He would nearly be forced to admit to the fans that he is outdated and should relinquesh control. If he keeps filling the offices with "yes" men and they fail, he can keep blaming the coaches and keep replacing them. Yes, you will see a new coach in Oakland next year. You'll probably see another one a year or two after that. If you don't like Al's way of doing things, he'll replace you. I'm thinking he can replace me too.

 

[greenline]

Yikes.

 

[krsone21]

those of you who say you're fans of Lane Kiffin, please answer me this: what kind of head coach "distances" himself from the defense? How ridiculous is that? I have never heard an NFL coach say, "Well, I've got nothing to do with that; that's the defense." What a friggin circus!Yes this goes back to Al Davis, and yes he is running this team into the ground and yes he never should have hired an inexperienced kid like Kiffin in the first place. But that doesn't mean Kiffin is any less a weasel. If you are a head coach, you take full responsibility, period. You don't blame other people in public, not players or other coaches or the owner. Show a little class. I would NEVER want Kiffin for my team, as he has displayed his true colors here.

I couldn't disagree more, Kiffin tried firing Ryan in the offseason to bring in a guy with more his vision of the way the defense should be run but Davis brought back Ryan and basically hamstrung Kiffin when it came to the defense. So yes I think Kiffin has the right to take no credit for that horribly run defense. Should he air it out in the media maybe not but I can't blame him for putting up with Davis's crap all year.

 

[showdere]

Two bad postings.Do you follow the Raiders in any way? Have you not looked at the recent HC hires by Davis? He hires "yes" men for the equivalent of a middle of the road offensive coordinator. He hires big-name players to keep interest up going into the season. He doesn't pay coaches ####, however. He doesn't believe coaches can make as much difference as he can himself, by overpaying for big names that have had big plays at big times but not necessarily because of big talent. Gruden was the best coach Oakland has had in the last decade and he stood up to Davis, did things his own way and was run out of town for it. Kiffin reminds me very much of Gruden, but the late '90's & early 2000's Raiders managed to hit on several big-name guys that held up in Rod Woodson, Jerry Rice, Charles Woodson and caught lightening in a bottle w/ Gannon. It's well known here in N.Cali that Rob Ryan is a company man, and does things Al's way. Kiffen knows this defense is underachieving and has said as much. Yeah, he's not helping things by making public statements about his assistants or coordinators, but at this point Kid and Gramps are at a war. Al Davis wanted Kiffen gone this offseason, but is too ####### cheap to pay for his plane ticket out of town. Kiff wouldn't resign (leave w/o severance) and Al wouldn't pay him to leave. Kiff wanted to change D coordinators, and get more staff that shared in his vision and plan, and Davis basically told him to go #### himself. Kiff is what, the 5th HC in Oakland in 6 years - or something like that - and you want to put ANY of the blame on him, when he was stripped of all power (what little he had been given in the 1st place) when Kiff talked Davis into getting rid of R.Moss. Kiff didn't want a quitter for a team leader, and that's exactly what Moss had done. He quit on the Raiders. So Moss goes and blows up in NE, and with every TD Moss caught from Brady, Al's resentment grew for Kiffen for lobbying against keeping him. This has been a downhill slide ever since then, and it is every year because Al Davis won't man up and say that somebody else may have a better way of handling this team on the field. If it were up to Al Davis, he'd play man coverage, two deep on damn near every play. He'd try to run his outdated, vertical passing game with speedster WRs and a big-armed QB. Hmm... do Aso soup and D.Hall signings fit into this defensive scheme? Does J.Russell fit? How about J.Walker? J.L.Higgins? The one time this team was successful in the last 15 years was when Al made a mistake. He ended up with an offense that didn't fit his scheme. He got Rich Gannon, as a stopgap 'cause no big-armed QBs were interested in coming to Oakland at the time. He still had his Heisman winning Tim Brown. And he brought in a square peg in the aging but still very effective Jerry Rice to fit in his deep-threat round hole. Gannon made everything click and the offense turned top-notch, and that bugged the crap out of Davis. Gruden was doing well, going AGAINST Davis' wishes.Now, if Al Davis let Kiff have his way (or any coach for that matter) and he was successful, doing things different from Al's way, then Davis would have egg all over his face. He would nearly be forced to admit to the fans that he is outdated and should relinquesh control. If he keeps filling the offices with "yes" men and they fail, he can keep blaming the coaches and keep replacing them. Yes, you will see a new coach in Oakland next year. You'll probably see another one a year or two after that. If you don't like Al's way of doing things, he'll replace you. I'm thinking he can replace me too.

C is for cookie.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Two bad postings.Do you follow the Raiders in any way? Have you not looked at the recent HC hires by Davis? He hires "yes" men for the equivalent of a middle of the road offensive coordinator. He hires big-name players to keep interest up going into the season. He doesn't pay coaches ####, however. He doesn't believe coaches can make as much difference as he can himself, by overpaying for big names that have had big plays at big times but not necessarily because of big talent. Gruden was the best coach Oakland has had in the last decade and he stood up to Davis, did things his own way and was run out of town for it. Kiffin reminds me very much of Gruden, but the late '90's & early 2000's Raiders managed to hit on several big-name guys that held up in Rod Woodson, Jerry Rice, Charles Woodson and caught lightening in a bottle w/ Gannon. It's well known here in N.Cali that Rob Ryan is a company man, and does things Al's way. Kiffen knows this defense is underachieving and has said as much. Yeah, he's not helping things by making public statements about his assistants or coordinators, but at this point Kid and Gramps are at a war. Al Davis wanted Kiffen gone this offseason, but is too ####### cheap to pay for his plane ticket out of town. Kiff wouldn't resign (leave w/o severance) and Al wouldn't pay him to leave. Kiff wanted to change D coordinators, and get more staff that shared in his vision and plan, and Davis basically told him to go #### himself. Kiff is what, the 5th HC in Oakland in 6 years - or something like that - and you want to put ANY of the blame on him, when he was stripped of all power (what little he had been given in the 1st place) when Kiff talked Davis into getting rid of R.Moss. Kiff didn't want a quitter for a team leader, and that's exactly what Moss had done. He quit on the Raiders. So Moss goes and blows up in NE, and with every TD Moss caught from Brady, Al's resentment grew for Kiffen for lobbying against keeping him. This has been a downhill slide ever since then, and it is every year because Al Davis won't man up and say that somebody else may have a better way of handling this team on the field. If it were up to Al Davis, he'd play man coverage, two deep on damn near every play. He'd try to run his outdated, vertical passing game with speedster WRs and a big-armed QB. Hmm... do Aso soup and D.Hall signings fit into this defensive scheme? Does J.Russell fit? How about J.Walker? J.L.Higgins? The one time this team was successful in the last 15 years was when Al made a mistake. He ended up with an offense that didn't fit his scheme. He got Rich Gannon, as a stopgap 'cause no big-armed QBs were interested in coming to Oakland at the time. He still had his Heisman winning Tim Brown. And he brought in a square peg in the aging but still very effective Jerry Rice to fit in his deep-threat round hole. Gannon made everything click and the offense turned top-notch, and that bugged the crap out of Davis. Gruden was doing well, going AGAINST Davis' wishes.Now, if Al Davis let Kiff have his way (or any coach for that matter) and he was successful, doing things different from Al's way, then Davis would have egg all over his face. He would nearly be forced to admit to the fans that he is outdated and should relinquesh control. If he keeps filling the offices with "yes" men and they fail, he can keep blaming the coaches and keep replacing them. Yes, you will see a new coach in Oakland next year. You'll probably see another one a year or two after that. If you don't like Al's way of doing things, he'll replace you. I'm thinking he can replace me too.

C is for cookie.

... it's good enough for me!

 

[AnonymousBob]

those of you who say you're fans of Lane Kiffin, please answer me this: what kind of head coach "distances" himself from the defense? How ridiculous is that? I have never heard an NFL coach say, "Well, I've got nothing to do with that; that's the defense." What a friggin circus!Yes this goes back to Al Davis, and yes he is running this team into the ground and yes he never should have hired an inexperienced kid like Kiffin in the first place. But that doesn't mean Kiffin is any less a weasel. If you are a head coach, you take full responsibility, period. You don't blame other people in public, not players or other coaches or the owner. Show a little class. I would NEVER want Kiffin for my team, as he has displayed his true colors here.

If it weren't the Raiders I'd agree with you. Cookiemonster had it right...Al Davis has done everything he can to make Kiffin fail. Kiffin is being completely and totally screwed by Al on this one. If Kiffin had brought in his own defensive coordinator I'd agree with you that he should take total blame. But he tried firing Ryan in the offseason and Big Dead Al stepped in and wouldn't allow it. Bottom line, if Davis wants to have his defensive coordinator, his defensive schemes and his defensive players, then he gets the blame as well.Kiffin is handling this in the best manner possible. In public isn't a great option for most teams but this is the Raiders. Normal rules go out the window when Al Davis is involved.

 

[NinerK]

those of you who say you're fans of Lane Kiffin, please answer me this: what kind of head coach "distances" himself from the defense? How ridiculous is that? I have never heard an NFL coach say, "Well, I've got nothing to do with that; that's the defense." What a friggin circus!Yes this goes back to Al Davis, and yes he is running this team into the ground and yes he never should have hired an inexperienced kid like Kiffin in the first place. But that doesn't mean Kiffin is any less a weasel. If you are a head coach, you take full responsibility, period. You don't blame other people in public, not players or other coaches or the owner. Show a little class. I would NEVER want Kiffin for my team, as he has displayed his true colors here.

Mike Nolan has said many times he is not involved with the 49ers Offense. Basically he says it every year.Couple of awesome franchises out here. Go Team!