Robert Meachem (1 Viewer)

[az_prof]

Meachem has shown a nose for the end zone and has flashed some big play ability at times. He seems to have good hands and doesn't drop many. After yesterday's performance where he caught 5 for 98 and a TD (a great play), is he poised to finally become the solid complement to Colston? He has scored three times on 13 catches this season and last year 3 times on 12 receptions: that is a very good scoring rate! He has been targeted 19 times this year and caught caught 13, a 68% catch rate, which is very good.

I didn't see yesterday's game so I would be interested in hearing about the other four receptions that were not TDs. I have heard some say he is a one trick pony and can only run the deep post pattern. Were all his receptions yesterday of that variety? Is he showing the ability to run crossing patterns or sideline outs yet?

Trying to decide in dynasty if he is a sell high this week, or if we should hold onto him and hope that next year (or even this year) he becomes the second starter.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I don't know what to tell you about your dynasty league, but I can tell you this:

Meach is Payton's ace in the hole.

Moore was out (and the Saints were missing him) Colston was causing audible gasps in the Dome by dropping balls, several (3 or 4) including one in the end zone and two key first down passes on the last drive of the 1st half).

And then Brees started hitting Meachem.

Besides the long TD (a helluva grab, spin and sprint move that any WR1/all-pro WR would be proud to have for a highlight) he also grabbed key first down passes just when the Saints needed them. The receptions looked like the kind of routes that Moore would usually run (Henderson had a slant pass that also looked like a Moore route).

In other words, his receptions were on trust/clutch plays. However they came with Colston getting some rare drops, with a smothering defense, with Moore out, and with Meachem running routes different than what he usually handles.

I really don't know if he keeps it up (check out his last three games, not bad, not bad) but I do know that the Rams game is a great matchup for him. That's the kind of game that Brees would or could very likely take a couple deep shots in the end zone to Meach, so I have him on my radar screen for the next 1-2 weeks at least.

 

[az_prof]

I don't know what to tell you about your dynasty league, but I can tell you this:Meach is Payton's ace in the hole.Moore was out (and the Saints were missing him) Colston was causing audible gasps in the Dome by dropping balls, several (3 or 4) including one in the end zone and two key first down passes on the last drive of the 1st half).And then Brees started hitting Meachem.Besides the long TD (a helluva grab, spin and sprint move that any WR1/all-pro WR would be proud to have for a highlight) he also grabbed key first down passes just when the Saints needed them. The receptions looked like the kind of routes that Moore would usually run (Henderson had a slant pass that also looked like a Moore route).In other words, his receptions were on trust/clutch plays. However they came with Colston getting some rare drops, with a smothering defense, with Moore out, and with Meachem running routes different than what he usually handles.I really don't know if he keeps it up (check out his last three games, not bad, not bad) but I do know that the Rams game is a great matchup for him. That's the kind of game that Brees would or could very likely take a couple deep shots in the end zone to Meach, so I have him on my radar screen for the next 1-2 weeks at least.

Thanks alot! This was the kind of analysis I was looking for from someone who has watched the team alot. Colston had an off game and that can happen to anyone (I saw Moss drop a couple yesterday, one for a TD). It happens. Normally teams can't completely sell out to stop him because of Moore. I still think Moore is a very good WR who isn't going anywhere, but he seems better suited to the slot. The question is can Meachem displace Henderson? It seems to me that he does everything Henderson does and has better hands. So if Meachem can start to get 5-6 targets a game and convert on four of them, he becomes a decent WR3 because of his run after catch and scoring ability.

 

[thehornet]

He might be "getting it" but we'll never know unless Colston goes down because he won't ever see enough targets to validate your question.

 

[Fullback Fro]

This is another case of the next guy showing up. The Saints have two many weapons to distribute the ball two. Only Colston and Shockey can really be counted on in the passing game. Starting any other for fantasy option is high risk / high reward.

 

[az_prof]

He might be "getting it" but we'll never know unless Colston goes down because he won't ever see enough targets to validate your question.

I don't think Colston needs to go down: I think he needs to displace Henderson and Moore needs to become the slot receiver with Meachem starting opposite Colston. There are enough balls thrown in that offense for two or even three WRs to be fantasy relevant.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

The question is can Meachem displace Henderson? It seems to me that he does everything Henderson does and has better hands. So if Meachem can start to get 5-6 targets a game and convert on four of them, he becomes a decent WR3 because of his run after catch and scoring ability.

I am not so sure about this.I should correct myself on one thing - he had zero catches vs. Miami, though he was in the gameplan. In that game Brees kept going to Colston, did not spread it around so much. Maybe the situation here with Carolina is that was not working. And then Henderson was getting open but not getting the quick score, which I think they wanted or needed.

Also, I think (other Saints fans may correct me on this but I think....) Henderson just got resigned, so I don't think he's going anywhere.

Like I said it would not surprise me if Meachem has good games vs StL & TB but I am not so sure Meachem will truly replace Henderson this year or next. Not that he couldn't or shouldn't but I think Payton has to like having the ability to face down a defense like the Panthers and show them that even if the top 3 targets are negated, Brees still has a WR1 / former 1st round pick who can burn them at any time. My expectation is that is where it will stay for a while, Meachem being a deep threat and ace in the hole WR, but not overtaking Henderson as the WR2.

 

[Fullback Fro]

He might be "getting it" but we'll never know unless Colston goes down because he won't ever see enough targets to validate your question.

I don't think Colston needs to go down: I think he needs to displace Henderson and Moore needs to become the slot receiver with Meachem starting opposite Colston. There are enough balls thrown in that offense for two or even three WRs to be fantasy relevant.

But see thats the thing. There will be no "displacing" of Henderson. And there will be no "Moore needs to become the slot receiver". All these receivers lineup all over the field in different formations. Sometimes Meachem is in the slot, sometimes Moore lineup outside. They really do spread it out like no other team. Brees will take what the defense gives them. If they leave a player in single coverage Brees will look for that matchup and try to exploit it. So, as I stated earlier, from a fantasy perspective, Colston is really the only viable start that you can count on accumulating statistics on a consistent basis. The other guys will hit huge some weeks and put up duds another.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

He might be "getting it" but we'll never know unless Colston goes down because he won't ever see enough targets to validate your question.

I don't think Colston needs to go down: I think he needs to displace Henderson and Moore needs to become the slot receiver with Meachem starting opposite Colston. There are enough balls thrown in that offense for two or even three WRs to be fantasy relevant.

But see thats the thing. There will be no "displacing" of Henderson. And there will be no "Moore needs to become the slot receiver". All these receivers lineup all over the field in different formations. Sometimes Meachem is in the slot, sometimes Moore lineup outside. They really do spread it out like no other team. Brees will take what the defense gives them. If they leave a player in single coverage Brees will look for that matchup and try to exploit it. So, as I stated earlier, from a fantasy perspective, Colston is really the only viable start that you can count on accumulating statistics on a consistent basis. The other guys will hit huge some weeks and put up duds another.

I don't think this is as tough as it looks to some in terms of whether to start someone.Brees? Yes.Colston? Yes.Pierre Thomas? Yes.Saints' DST?: Yes.Bush/Bell? No. Henderson: spot start (as WR3) (vs overmatched opponents like StL and TB for instance)Meachem: same as Henderson, but even more rarely so (in fact this week's or next week's not a bad opportunity).

 

[Pnishthm]

He might be "getting it" but we'll never know unless Colston goes down because he won't ever see enough targets to validate your question.

I don't think Colston needs to go down: I think he needs to displace Henderson and Moore needs to become the slot receiver with Meachem starting opposite Colston. There are enough balls thrown in that offense for two or even three WRs to be fantasy relevant.

Yes Meachem is improving as a WR. There was never any question about his hands. The problem for Meachem besides that the Saints really spread it around is that Henderson has improved his game so much. I really don't recall the last game Henderson dropped an easy pass and in years past he was good for a drop or two a game. While a headache for fantasy owners... a nice problem to have fo the Saints. Who dat?

 

[saintfool]

meachem just doesn't get enough playing time, i think. he's buried in the line-up behind colston, devery, lance, and even jeremy. he's stepping up when given the opportunity but those are few and far between. if moore returns, he'll only get targets in 4-5 WR sets.

 

[otis68]

meachem just doesn't get enough playing time, i think. he's buried in the line-up behind colston, devery, lance, and even jeremy. he's stepping up when given the opportunity but those are few and far between. if moore returns, he'll only get targets in 4-5 WR sets.

He gets plenty of playing time, especially with Moore out. He just doesn't get alot of targets on a consistent basis.