Roddy White (1 Viewer)

[UnderDawgs]

Does anyone know if (and if so, how badly) Roddy White is injured? I see Harry Douglas did what I thought was Roddy's workload.

Is Douglas the new go-to guy in Atlanta?

 

[NeverEnough]

I would think Jenkins would benefit most if Roddy is out

 

[PosterNutBag]

Does anyone know if (and if so, how badly) Roddy White is injured? I see Harry Douglas did what I thought was Roddy's workload.

Is Douglas the new go-to guy in Atlanta?

You should read this. Douglas is not the new go-to-guy in ATL. White is the still the #1 without question. Douglas is the #3 WR option at best (behind Jenkins).

 

[zamboni]

Unless I've missed something, nothing indicated that he aggravated his back anymore than going into last game.

 

[blackjack23]

Does anyone know if (and if so, how badly) Roddy White is injured? I see Harry Douglas did what I thought was Roddy's workload. Is Douglas the new go-to guy in Atlanta?

Roddy didnt miss any time in the game. Hes fine

 

[zamboni]

Seems like the key issue was that was Gamble did a good job shutting down Roddy in the 2nd half while Turner was running all over the Panthers.

 

[PatrickT]

Roddy was, and is, fine, but it's worth noting that his fantasy numbers are taking a hit as defenses are now trying to scheme him out of the game which, conversely, seems to be benefiting Turner. And, as we've seen, if Turner is rockin', there's not as much need to chuck the ball. So, you may want to temper expectations on White from here out. SOME of this is attributed to a little case of the dropsies he's developed. Anyone have target data? His catches are definitely down over the last 4 weeks.

Not that I'm suggesting you bench him, but he might be drifting closer to WR2 status. He remains a solid start vs SD in my mind.

 

[UnderDawgs]

Roddy was, and is, fine, but it's worth noting that his fantasy numbers are taking a hit as defenses are now trying to scheme him out of the game which, conversely, seems to be benefiting Turner. And, as we've seen, if Turner is rockin', there's not as much need to chuck the ball. So, you may want to temper expectations on White from here out. SOME of this is attributed to a little case of the dropsies he's developed. Anyone have target data? His catches are definitely down over the last 4 weeks.Not that I'm suggesting you bench him, but he might be drifting closer to WR2 status. He remains a solid start vs SD in my mind.

Yeah, his fantasy numbers have taken a hit. What am I saying? MY fantasy numbers have taken a hit! I'll keep a closer eye on him from here on out. Thanks!

 

[zamboni]

He's only had 5, 5 and 4 catches the last three weeks, but I think it's not unlike any WR right now outside of Boldin or AJ. It's unrealistic to expect 7-9 catches every week.

If nothing else, the targets have been still there in the upper single digits to lower double digits.

 

[awesomeness]

Another thing to look at is Roddy White's splits for first half and second half.

First half of games: 41 receptions, 711 yards 4 TDs

Second half of games: 21 receptions, 262 yards, 2 TDs.

I don't know if Ryan just targets White a lot more in the first half, or if the Falcons just like to run the ball more in the second half but White seems to get the majority of his fantasy points in the first half of games.

In his most recent game all of his 4 receptions came in the first half. And i remember in one of the game's in which he had over 100 yards, i think it was the KC game when he had 5 receptions for 119 yards, all of his receptions came in the first half also.

 

[PatrickT]

Another thing to look at is Roddy White's splits for first half and second half.First half of games: 41 receptions, 711 yards 4 TDsSecond half of games: 21 receptions, 262 yards, 2 TDs.I don't know if Ryan just targets White a lot more in the first half, or if the Falcons just like to run the ball more in the second half but White seems to get the majority of his fantasy points in the first half of games.In his most recent game all of his 4 receptions came in the first half. And i remember in one of the game's in which he had over 100 yards, i think it was the KC game when he had 5 receptions for 119 yards, all of his receptions came in the first half also.

Most likely explained by their desire for "fast starts". Haven't got the time, but I'd bet you'd see similar stats across their entire offense. They like to get an early lead and sit on it.

 

[Mark Wimer]

Roddy was, and is, fine, but it's worth noting that his fantasy numbers are taking a hit as defenses are now trying to scheme him out of the game which, conversely, seems to be benefiting Turner. And, as we've seen, if Turner is rockin', there's not as much need to chuck the ball. So, you may want to temper expectations on White from here out. SOME of this is attributed to a little case of the dropsies he's developed. Anyone have target data? His catches are definitely down over the last 4 weeks.Not that I'm suggesting you bench him, but he might be drifting closer to WR2 status. He remains a solid start vs SD in my mind.

White last 4 weeks (weeks 9-12) 35 targets for 19/294/1 15.5 yards per catch 54.3% reception percentageJenkins 2nd most with 21 targetsHarry Douglas has seen only 8 targets in that span, with 6 last week vs. the Panthers. It was a situational thing - Douglas was hot and the Falcons had a matchup they liked in the game for him.I have both White and Douglas on several fantasy teams, and I am starting both this week vs. San Diego - the worst pass D in the league by far. White should have a banner day and Douglas is likely to maintain the high # of targets this week due to the absolutely abysmal play of the Chargers' defenders: I happen to be writing the ATL/SD passing matchup at this moment, so I'll clip the below into this discussionwhen cornerback Quentin Jammer intercepted Peyton Manning in the game on Sunday, it was the Chargers' first takeaway in five games (over a span of 185 passes thrown against San Diego). The Chargers have allowed more 1st downs than any other team during 2008...the Chargers' 32nd-ranked pass D averages 265.5 net yards allowed per game, with 19 passing TDs surrendered vs. just 7 interceptions and 23 sacks generated this year.

 

[PatrickT]

Roddy was, and is, fine, but it's worth noting that his fantasy numbers are taking a hit as defenses are now trying to scheme him out of the game which, conversely, seems to be benefiting Turner. And, as we've seen, if Turner is rockin', there's not as much need to chuck the ball. So, you may want to temper expectations on White from here out. SOME of this is attributed to a little case of the dropsies he's developed. Anyone have target data? His catches are definitely down over the last 4 weeks.Not that I'm suggesting you bench him, but he might be drifting closer to WR2 status. He remains a solid start vs SD in my mind.

White last 4 weeks (weeks 9-12) 35 targets for 19/294/1 15.5 yards per catch 54.3% reception percentageJenkins 2nd most with 21 targetsHarry Douglas has seen only 8 targets in that span, with 6 last week vs. the Panthers. It was a situational thing - Douglas was hot and the Falcons had a matchup they liked in the game for him.I have both White and Douglas on several fantasy teams, and I am starting both this week vs. San Diego - the worst pass D in the league by far. White should have a banner day and Douglas is likely to maintain the high # of targets this week due to the absolutely abysmal play of the Chargers' defenders: I happen to be writing the ATL/SD passing matchup at this moment, so I'll clip the below into this discussionwhen cornerback Quentin Jammer intercepted Peyton Manning in the game on Sunday, it was the Chargers' first takeaway in five games (over a span of 185 passes thrown against San Diego). The Chargers have allowed more 1st downs than any other team during 2008...the Chargers' 32nd-ranked pass D averages 265.5 net yards allowed per game, with 19 passing TDs surrendered vs. just 7 interceptions and 23 sacks generated this year.

How does that compare with his targets from weeks 4-8?

 

[PatrickT]

Roddy was, and is, fine, but it's worth noting that his fantasy numbers are taking a hit as defenses are now trying to scheme him out of the game which, conversely, seems to be benefiting Turner. And, as we've seen, if Turner is rockin', there's not as much need to chuck the ball. So, you may want to temper expectations on White from here out. SOME of this is attributed to a little case of the dropsies he's developed. Anyone have target data? His catches are definitely down over the last 4 weeks.Not that I'm suggesting you bench him, but he might be drifting closer to WR2 status. He remains a solid start vs SD in my mind.

White last 4 weeks (weeks 9-12) 35 targets for 19/294/1 15.5 yards per catch 54.3% reception percentageJenkins 2nd most with 21 targetsHarry Douglas has seen only 8 targets in that span, with 6 last week vs. the Panthers. It was a situational thing - Douglas was hot and the Falcons had a matchup they liked in the game for him.I have both White and Douglas on several fantasy teams, and I am starting both this week vs. San Diego - the worst pass D in the league by far. White should have a banner day and Douglas is likely to maintain the high # of targets this week due to the absolutely abysmal play of the Chargers' defenders: I happen to be writing the ATL/SD passing matchup at this moment, so I'll clip the below into this discussionwhen cornerback Quentin Jammer intercepted Peyton Manning in the game on Sunday, it was the Chargers' first takeaway in five games (over a span of 185 passes thrown against San Diego). The Chargers have allowed more 1st downs than any other team during 2008...the Chargers' 32nd-ranked pass D averages 265.5 net yards allowed per game, with 19 passing TDs surrendered vs. just 7 interceptions and 23 sacks generated this year.

How does that compare with his targets from weeks 4-8?

Nm, I found it.55 targets for 32/447/4That's a 36% drop in targets over the last 4 weeks, and a similar drop in yardage. What I didn't realize is that Matt's attempts over the same periods are down. Wks 4-8: 141 attempts.Wks 9-12: 105 attempts.About a 25% drop.Again, don't panic, Roddy remains a great start against SD. But as Ryan matures, he's finding other targets besides his early security blanket. Combine that with fewer attempts as teams realize they can't just stack the box to beat us, and Roddy's numbers seem certain to take a mild hit.

 

[Mark Wimer]

Roddy was, and is, fine, but it's worth noting that his fantasy numbers are taking a hit as defenses are now trying to scheme him out of the game which, conversely, seems to be benefiting Turner. And, as we've seen, if Turner is rockin', there's not as much need to chuck the ball. So, you may want to temper expectations on White from here out. SOME of this is attributed to a little case of the dropsies he's developed. Anyone have target data? His catches are definitely down over the last 4 weeks.

Not that I'm suggesting you bench him, but he might be drifting closer to WR2 status. He remains a solid start vs SD in my mind.

White last 4 weeks (weeks 9-12) 35 targets for 19/294/1 15.5 yards per catch 54.3% reception percentageJenkins 2nd most with 21 targets

Harry Douglas has seen only 8 targets in that span, with 6 last week vs. the Panthers. It was a situational thing - Douglas was hot and the Falcons had a matchup they liked in the game for him.

I have both White and Douglas on several fantasy teams, and I am starting both this week vs. San Diego - the worst pass D in the league by far. White should have a banner day and Douglas is likely to maintain the high # of targets this week due to the absolutely abysmal play of the Chargers' defenders: I happen to be writing the ATL/SD passing matchup at this moment, so I'll clip the below into this discussion

when cornerback Quentin Jammer intercepted Peyton Manning in the game on Sunday, it was the Chargers' first takeaway in five games (over a span of 185 passes thrown against San Diego). The Chargers have allowed more 1st downs than any other team during 2008...the Chargers' 32nd-ranked pass D averages 265.5 net yards allowed per game, with 19 passing TDs surrendered vs. just 7 interceptions and 23 sacks generated this year.

How does that compare with his targets from weeks 4-8?

Nm, I found it.55 targets for 32/447/4

That's a 36% drop in targets over the last 4 weeks, and a similar drop in yardage. What I didn't realize is that Matt's attempts over the same periods are down.

Wks 4-8: 141 attempts.

Wks 9-12: 105 attempts.

About a 25% drop.

Again, don't panic, Roddy remains a great start against SD. But as Ryan matures, he's finding other targets besides his early security blanket. Combine that with fewer attempts as teams realize they can't just stack the box to beat us, and Roddy's numbers seem certain to take a mild hit.

I'd think White will stay modestly lower in the targets dept as you have detailed in your posts above. However, White has plenty of room to improve as far as reception percentage, so I'm not sure I agree his results (receptions/yards/TDs) will take a mild hit. As the Falcons get into the playoff stretch run, intensity and focus should build for the key members on the squad (hopefully). Also, Atlanta plays in domes for the final four games of the year (@ NO, TB in ATL, @ MIN, STL in ATL weeks 14-17), so they should be pedal-to-the-metal in the passing department compared to teams that have to face outdoor venues during December. I'm glad I'll be starting White throughout Dec. given the above favorable venues. Vikings, Saints, Rams are all bottom-12 pass D's entering Dec (of course TB is a tough game in 15, but you can't have everything break favorably).

 

[PatrickT]

Roddy was, and is, fine, but it's worth noting that his fantasy numbers are taking a hit as defenses are now trying to scheme him out of the game which, conversely, seems to be benefiting Turner. And, as we've seen, if Turner is rockin', there's not as much need to chuck the ball. So, you may want to temper expectations on White from here out. SOME of this is attributed to a little case of the dropsies he's developed. Anyone have target data? His catches are definitely down over the last 4 weeks.

Not that I'm suggesting you bench him, but he might be drifting closer to WR2 status. He remains a solid start vs SD in my mind.

White last 4 weeks (weeks 9-12) 35 targets for 19/294/1 15.5 yards per catch 54.3% reception percentageJenkins 2nd most with 21 targets

Harry Douglas has seen only 8 targets in that span, with 6 last week vs. the Panthers. It was a situational thing - Douglas was hot and the Falcons had a matchup they liked in the game for him.

I have both White and Douglas on several fantasy teams, and I am starting both this week vs. San Diego - the worst pass D in the league by far. White should have a banner day and Douglas is likely to maintain the high # of targets this week due to the absolutely abysmal play of the Chargers' defenders: I happen to be writing the ATL/SD passing matchup at this moment, so I'll clip the below into this discussion

when cornerback Quentin Jammer intercepted Peyton Manning in the game on Sunday, it was the Chargers' first takeaway in five games (over a span of 185 passes thrown against San Diego). The Chargers have allowed more 1st downs than any other team during 2008...the Chargers' 32nd-ranked pass D averages 265.5 net yards allowed per game, with 19 passing TDs surrendered vs. just 7 interceptions and 23 sacks generated this year.

How does that compare with his targets from weeks 4-8?

Nm, I found it.55 targets for 32/447/4

That's a 36% drop in targets over the last 4 weeks, and a similar drop in yardage. What I didn't realize is that Matt's attempts over the same periods are down.

Wks 4-8: 141 attempts.

Wks 9-12: 105 attempts.

About a 25% drop.

Again, don't panic, Roddy remains a great start against SD. But as Ryan matures, he's finding other targets besides his early security blanket. Combine that with fewer attempts as teams realize they can't just stack the box to beat us, and Roddy's numbers seem certain to take a mild hit.

I'd think White will stay modestly lower in the targets dept as you have detailed in your posts above. However, White has plenty of room to improve as far as reception percentage, so I'm not sure I agree his results (receptions/yards/TDs) will take a mild hit. As the Falcons get into the playoff stretch run, intensity and focus should build for the key members on the squad (hopefully). Also, Atlanta plays in domes for the final four games of the year (@ NO, TB in ATL, @ MIN, STL in ATL weeks 14-17), so they should be pedal-to-the-metal in the passing department compared to teams that have to face outdoor venues during December. I'm glad I'll be starting White throughout Dec. given the above favorable venues. Vikings, Saints, Rams are all bottom-12 pass D's entering Dec (of course TB is a tough game in 15, but you can't have everything break favorably).

Mostly agree, tho I'd say it's a little dangerous to assume that less opportunity will equal similar production just due to "playoff focus" increasing his catch percentage. But I feel essentially the same, that there's no reason to significantly downgrade White, and he's firmly in my starting lineup for the foreseeable future.