Roddy White (1 Viewer)

[strong]

i play in a non-ppr, 20yds/pt salary cap league

after roddy's second straight low yardage game, i thought i may want to ship him off for a decent lower paid player to free up some cap space for free agents. in a touchdown heavy league, gonszalez's red zone presence could make a big difference in white's value.

i figured with his touchdown this last week, his value was still good and i could probably get a decent player.

but then, after a little research, i noticed he still has 20 targets this year. that's seventh in the league, and it surprised me. for some reason, i expected fewer targets than that. in a non-ppr league, i didn't notice the receptions as much. i decided i don't want to ship him off yet.

bottom line: i generally think that if i'm thinking something about a player, other people often are too. we've all be saturated with the Buy Low Sell High Lists and owners are wary of selling players off on the Buy Low lists--(and white is never on any of those lists-- so owners in td heavy, non ppr leagues may be more willing to trade white than people may expect).

i've decided to target white in my other non-ppr league to see if the owner may be panicking a little about gonzalez a bit, like i did for a few moments.

thought i'd share.

 

[ttea]

The whole buy low sell high days are over I think.

Too much information out there.

I've tried to pull off a couple of trades like this, tried to get B.Marshall, Roddy White, Sjax, with no success.

 

[NeverEnough]

I tried to sell him after week 1 w/no bites.

 

[cubbie5150]

I have tried to acquire him in my league, but his owner is very aware of the Target numbers....he won't let go of Roddy @ less than market value for a top 10 WR1

 

[Chaser1439]

would you guys accept a trade where I ship off Caddy and I get WHite?

 

[ttea]

would you guys accept a trade where I ship off Caddy and I get WHite?

I wouldn't, don't think anyone else would either.

 

[Chaser1439]

Someone offered me that trade. Am I over thinking it? Should I accept the trade?

 

[G-Money]

Someone offered me that trade. Am I over thinking it? Should I accept the trade?

What are you still doing here?? Hit the accept button and have a nice cold beer in celebration.

 

[ttea]

Someone offered me that trade. Am I over thinking it? Should I accept the trade?

Are you kidding, I would've accepted 10 minutes ago. DO IT.I read that whole thing wrong, probably because I couldn't possibly see someone offering that lol

 

[Chaser1439]

nice work fellas. I liked your urgency on the matter. Hopefully Roddy can finish around the top 10!

 

[PatrickT]

Yep, Roddy will be just fine. I didn't know the target numbers, but it matches what I've seen, he's still very much a Ryan favorite. This offense still isn't really clicking at 100%, IMO. When they are, they're going to put up some serious points. They're going to have to if they want to keep up with NO.

 

[footballsavvy]

Gonzales taking some, but Atlanta throwing more to make up for it, it seems. Ryan missed White on several bombs. In the games where he hits those, he will have the 100+ and 1 TD weeks. He's on pace for 88/760/8 without hitting the big play yet. Thats only an 8.6 ypc average. Roddy has been in the 17ypc range the past two years. He will still get those big plays, he just didn't hit them in the first two games. If anyone is selling him as less than a #5 WR I would try to work out a trade - especially in dynasty. Matt Ryan will only get better. That team could be scary potent on offense going forward.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

For perspective's sake - I'm in a league where the Roddy owner panicked and I was able to acquire him this morning for: Greg Olsen, Julius Jones, Lance Moore & Chris Henry.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Someone offered me that trade. Am I over thinking it? Should I accept the trade?

do it before he takes it back.

 

[Godsbrother]

I traded White & Fred Jackson for Randy Moss this week.

 

[CrazyHorse1581]

I traded White for Kevin Smith a couple of days ago. I think Gonzo will hurt his TD numbers.

 

[lyon812]

I think Gonzo will hurt his TD numbers.

Not to pick on you, I just see this sentiment a lot. Ryan only had 16 TD's last year. That number is going to improve, and he can certainly support both White and Gonzalez. It's not like White had a large amount of TD's last year. Sure, if he had 15 TD's and Gonzo came and sucked some away, that would affect his value.But he didn't. White caught 7 TD's, and chances are he'll surpass that. He'd have a couple of TD's already, if Ryan hadn't been misfiring on the deep ball. Giving up on White because of a couple of incompletions seems a hasty move.

 

[thehornet]

I traded White for Kevin Smith a couple of days ago. I think Gonzo will hurt his TD numbers.

 

[Knobs]

I was offered Roddy White and would have to part ways with Greg Jennings. It's tempting, and I'm leaning towards doing it.

 

[LHUCKS]

was just offered Moreno, Marshall and Berrian for him...on the fence.

 

[p00h]

I was offered Roddy White and would have to part ways with Greg Jennings. It's tempting, and I'm leaning towards doing it.

straight up?!? do not do that...I own Jennings in 2 leagues and Roddy in 1, and am confident both will perform over the duration of the year, but I think Jennings will enter the Reggie Wayne stratosphere this year...

 

[Captain Spaulding]

Here's how I look at it:

1st: What is a reasonable range to expect Ryan to throw TD passes? Last year he threw for 16 TD's. I would target maybe 18-25 total TD's this year (because a) more experience b) better passing weapons c) run game isn't appearing as strong as last season? So lets say So I'm going with 22 TD passes as a conservative assumption for 2009.

Assume Gonzo gets 5-10 TD's (10 last year...5 in the previous 2 seasons)...so lets assume 8 TD's for Gonzo.

That leaves 14 max. TD receptions for remainder of team.

Assume 3 reception TD's this year by RB's

Now your down to 11 TD's remaining.

Assume Jenkins gets 3 TD's

Now your down to 8 TD's remaining for Roddy White.

So I'd guess Gonzo and White both get about the same TD's this season...probably around 8 give or take a few.

 

[p00h]

Here's how I look at it:1st: What is a reasonable range to expect Ryan to throw TD passes? Last year he threw for 16 TD's. I would target maybe 18-25 total TD's this year (because a) more experience b) better passing weapons c) run game isn't appearing as strong as last season? So lets say So I'm going with 22 TD passes as a conservative assumption for 2009.Assume Gonzo gets 5-10 TD's (10 last year...5 in the previous 2 seasons)...so lets assume 8 TD's for Gonzo.That leaves 14 max. TD receptions for remainder of team.Assume 3 reception TD's this year by RB'sNow your down to 11 TD's remaining.Assume Jenkins gets 3 TD'sNow your down to 8 TD's remaining for Roddy White.So I'd guess Gonzo and White both get about the same TD's this season...probably around 8 give or take a few.

He's going to get above 22 tds this year. 24 is 1.5/game alone. THe south is not that great on D, even the bucs. I'd shoot around 28 to be honest. Give Gonzo 10 cuz he already has a hot start, 5 to the rbs, 5 to the other wr, that leaves a good 10 for Roddy. I don't think its a stretch he averages 2 per game, which would bring him upto 32. I think Ryan is that good, and Turner is not sneaking up on anyone this year. Roddy will get his. I look for 1000-1200 and 9-12 tds, sold numbers for where he was picked...

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Here's how I look at it:1st: What is a reasonable range to expect Ryan to throw TD passes? Last year he threw for 16 TD's. I would target maybe 18-25 total TD's this year (because a) more experience b) better passing weapons c) run game isn't appearing as strong as last season? So lets say So I'm going with 22 TD passes as a conservative assumption for 2009.Assume Gonzo gets 5-10 TD's (10 last year...5 in the previous 2 seasons)...so lets assume 8 TD's for Gonzo.That leaves 14 max. TD receptions for remainder of team.Assume 3 reception TD's this year by RB'sNow your down to 11 TD's remaining.Assume Jenkins gets 3 TD'sNow your down to 8 TD's remaining for Roddy White.So I'd guess Gonzo and White both get about the same TD's this season...probably around 8 give or take a few.

This is a pretty fair breakdown, and considering that Gonzo already has 2 TDs that would mean that he'd only need 6 more over the course of the season to reach 8... So to me, the above scenario is more conservative towards Gonzo's impact if anything.Which means for Roddy to exceed the 8TDs you're putting him at one of two things would have to happen: 1) Gonzo injury, 2) Ryan surpasses the 22TD mark. Either of which are possible but not worth banking on.

 

[p00h]

Which means for Roddy to exceed the 8TDs you're putting him at one of two things would have to happen: 1) Gonzo injury, 2) Ryan surpasses the 22TD mark. Either of which are possible but not worth banking on.

Are you serious?!? He has 5 tds in 2 games!!! With that already booked, you're saying he will end up with 22ish tds?!? Not worth banking that he'll have more?!? Terrible assessment of talent, just terrible. You won't win many FF championships with that keen sense of projection...

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

Which means for Roddy to exceed the 8TDs you're putting him at one of two things would have to happen: 1) Gonzo injury, 2) Ryan surpasses the 22TD mark. Either of which are possible but not worth banking on.

Are you serious?!? He has 5 tds in 2 games!!! With that already booked, you're saying he will end up with 22ish tds?!? Not worth banking that he'll have more?!? Terrible assessment of talent, just terrible. You won't win many FF championships with that keen sense of projection...

I didn't come up with the 22TD mark, that was from the previous post and the poster clearly wrote 22 as his conservative floor...Simmer down there killer.

 

[Shlon]

In week 1, Ryan missed a wide open White TWICE that would've been 40+ yard TD bombs each time. If he hits those, all this talk about White wouldn't be happening. I think he's still going to have a big year, especially when teams start focusing more on Gonzo.

 

[rascal]

Bump.

I don't care how many targets he is getting but his stats are ugly. Two games already this year where he has put up horrible numbers.

 

[Knobs]

I didn't give up Jennings for him but am making a strong push for the kid. I have faith he'll come around as long as he keeps getting targets. And I have no idea why he would stop getting targets.

 

[bucsbaby]

As long as he keeps getting targets, he will get his eventually. His talent + Ryan's talent = statistal output (eventually). I am staying patient with him.

 

[That Little Voice]

Really thought Sunday would be his breakout game. 4 catches for 24 yards on a day when Tony G had 1 catch.

I think White is a hold and will have some big games. But as the 5th or 6th WR off the board on draft day this 3 game start has been a significant diappointment.