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Abortion is not ensconsced in the Constitution.You mean to equally protect guns as we want to for women?
Abortion is not ensconsced in the Constitution.You mean to equally protect guns as we want to for women?
What federal abortion law is being ignored?"The Council just passed legislation to make Seattle an abortion rights sanctuary city"
do ya'll agree with gun rights sanctuary counties/cities/states? Ignore Federal State laws - just do what you want to do, right ?
What federal abortion law is being ignored?
Abortion is not ensconsced in the Constitution.
But you mentioned Seattle and abortion. So what is the federal law that Seattle is ignoring in this instance?I mentioned guns - not just abortion .... like cities do with drugs and illegals etc ?
So you equate a sanctuary to protect guns the same as a sanctuary to protect women?ding ding ding we have a winner
now in 2050, maybe another SC rules again , who knows? for far too long, people were told abortion was a right vs a ruling ... and they believed it :(
So you equate a sanctuary to protect guns the same as a sanctuary to protect women?
Pretty dang sure that question can be asked and answered w/o consideration of the Constitution.Once again, one is in the Constitution.
You're either being purposefully obtuse or you really are obtuse.
So you equate a sanctuary to protect guns the same as a sanctuary to protect women?
Nailedit TMMaybe he doesn’t like people questioning his position.?
"Sanctuary Cities" are simply those that refuse to use their local tax payer funds to do the job of the federal government. I have no idea what you think the term means, but based on this post, your definition is wrong."The Council just passed legislation to make Seattle an abortion rights sanctuary city"
do ya'll agree with gun rights sanctuary counties/cities/states? Ignore Federal State laws - just do what you want to do, right ?
"Sanctuary Cities" are simply those that refuse to use their local tax payer funds to do the job of the federal government. I have no idea what you think the term means, but based on this post, your definition is wrong.
If you can show me what state or federal abortion law Seattle is breaking, then we can talk about that. Otherwise you're just bloviating about yet another term you clearly don't know the meaning of.
You still have not provided anything that says Seattle is ignoring a federal abortion law.I have no idea where you got your definition ? my point was, if we are going to see states/cities go their own way on drugs, illegals, now abortion .... those are not good precedence's to set
You still have not provided anything that says Seattle is ignoring a federal abortion law.
A Republican state delegate from West Virginia, Chris Pritt is suggesting that we do away with child support so that men do not try to convince women to get abortions
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1553773183697829893?s=20&t=DQMvLUAo3PEMPm7UtLELRw
I do think Republican legislatures are their own worst enemy by making an issue out of things like crossing state lines for abortion and getting weird about various edge-case exceptions. This can become more of a liability if folks continue to over-reach.@IvanKaramazov and several others here predicted that the Dobbs decision would not play a significant role in the November elections, that “suburban women getting mad” was largely a myth, that those who are angered by the SC decision would be countered by those who are happy about it. None of this appears to be the case:
https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2022-07-28/abortion-access-could-play-a-key-role-in-these-elections?context=amp
Hopefully...you get the idea....if not, there are hundreds of other articles out there if you choose to learn something.
That’s not helping but the main factor is the decision itself. People believe (with justification IMO) that Trump and the Republican senate installed a radical right majority in the SC who have views that don’t line up with the majority of Americans, particularly on this issue.I do think Republican legislatures are their own worst enemy by making an issue out of things like crossing state lines for abortion and getting weird about various edge-case exceptions. This can become more of a liability if folks continue to over-reach.
Of course not....all that is saying is EXACTLY what I said. The states/cities are under NO obligation to assist in the carrying out of federal laws. That's for the federal government to do. Federal funds should be used to enforce federal laws. Local/state funds should be used to enforce local/state laws.yes I think I do have the idea
https://www.pulj.org/the-roundtable/do-sanctuary-cities-violate-the-law
"No federal law requires state and local governments to cooperate with federal authorities; in fact, the Constitution prohibits the federal government from hijacking states and cities, forcing them to carry out its will"
if this is all true - then states/local governments can pretty much do whatever they want to, can't they ?
What do you think he is saying?that's not what he's saying at all IMO
What do you think he is saying?
If people cross state lines to purchase a firearm in Texas that is legal to purchase in the state of Texas, I’m feel pretty good that pretty much every city or town in Texas is a sanctuary city with respect to gun purchases.I mentioned guns - not just abortion .... like cities do with drugs and illegals etc ?
liberals LOVE to go rogue and be "sanctuary" ... which is just another way of saying they're not going follow rules/laws/regulations ... I was just curious if its ok for conservatives to do that too ?
If people cross state lines to purchase a firearm in Texas that is legal to purchase in the state of Texas, I’m feel pretty good that pretty much every city or town in Texas is a sanctuary city with respect to gun purchases.
In other words, I don’t think Seattle is refusing to “follow rules/laws/regulations.” Abortion is legal in Seattle.
Disagree, but we'll never know since several legislatures did actually overreach.That’s not helping but the main factor is the decision itself. People believe (with justification IMO) that Trump and the Republican senate installed a radical right majority in the SC who have views that don’t line up with the majority of Americans, particularly on this issue.
Disagree, but we'll never know since several legislatures did actually overreach.
It's not popular buy a minority.I disagree too - https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/abortion-laws-by-state-roe-v-wade-00037695
The people in these states have spoken - or will ..... abortion is not popular, it really isn't, look at all the restrictions/bans etc
and more will follow IMO
Right. That’s my point. Seattle saying that they won’t participate in investigations related to abortion bans in other states is similar to Waco Texas not participating in the investigation of a legal gun purchase in Texas that subsequently violates Las Vegas’ registration requirement when the person returns there and fails to register the firearm with the city. In other words, it’s not the city’s job to enforce the laws of other states. So Seattle’s approach in the abortion context is consistent with conservative cities’ approach in the gun rights context.maybe I misunderstood the whole argument presented then .... "Seattle police will not cooperate in arrests or investigations related to abortion bans in other states" ......... that's the guts of Seattle abortion sanctuary law
and, I'm not sure how laws will be forged on going to other states for abortions. I don't know how they can be prevented -
You posted this prior to the Kansas results? Reliable Kansas.The people in these states have spoken - or will ..... abortion is not popular, it really isn't, look at all the restrictions/bans etc
and more will follow IMO
You posted this prior to the Kansas results? Reliable Kansas.The people in these states have spoken - or will ..... abortion is not popular, it really isn't, look at all the restrictions/bans etc
and more will follow IMO
Absolutely sickening. :(
I bet there is money to be made on an abortion tourism company. Flee your repressive red state, exercise autonomy over your body and go to Disneyland. Sounds like a win/win.California: Come for the view, Stay for the Abortion!Fetuses aren’t people.
Seems like a catchy slogan, no? I mean the Supreme Court is actually driving business to California. You should be happy with that.
You're likely going to hear more and more stories like this unfortunately. :(
A 6 month old baby?
Agreed. A mother/daughter plotting to violate state law and kill a 6 month old baby is pretty sickening.
A 6 month old baby?
We are now counting how old we are from conception? Hw old are you stealthy?A 6 month old baby?
Investigators were able to obtain her medical records indicating she was 23 weeks pregnant at the time
4 weeks in a month, that's about 6 months old yes
This is great news, actually. It means average life expectancy for US citizens just increased by 9 months. This should definitely help our world ranking.We are now counting how old we are from conception? Hw old are you stealthy?A 6 month old baby?
Investigators were able to obtain her medical records indicating she was 23 weeks pregnant at the time
4 weeks in a month, that's about 6 months old yes
We are now counting how old we are from conception? Hw old are you stealthy?
Also - 23 weeks is closer to 5 months than 6 months, FYI
A month is not 4 weeks. An average month has 30.5 days.Also - 23 weeks is closer to 5 months than 6 months, FYI
what?
is 23 closer to 24 or 20?
The extreme views expressed by @Stealthycat and @John123 in this thread, that teenagers who have abortions should face legal penalty including prison time, is a major reason why the Republican Party will suffer very significantly over this issue in future elections.