at least they didn't play the cult classic "Blow My MCL!""Playing "Take Me Out" over the loudspeakers...
Stay classy San Diego...
The hit he just took.He's out of the game.????
Playing "Take Me Out" over the loudspeakers...
Stay classy San Diego...
DL fell into his plant leg as he was throwing. Looks serious ... possible ACL or MCL tear, depending on the bend. It looked like it hyperextended to me, which would suggest ACL, but it could have been from the side also, which might be MCL.
I'm not a physician and I'm speculating. However, I have a reconstructed ACL, so take it for what it's worth. It could just be a sprain, but the bend looked serious and the way Ben reacted was serious.
My sources tell me he sucks.What is the report on Maddux?
calf injury in practice Friday. dont know how seriousWhat is the report on Maddux?
Charlie Batch came into the game. John mentioned some injury to Maddux, but I don't remember the specifics.Also, after the FG, Ben was taken off the field on a cart. Big wrap and lots of ice on the knee. Knee shots make me cringe.What is the report on Maddux?
Or perhaps the Heavy Metal anthem "Kiss my ACL Goodbye"at least they didn't play the cult classic "Blow My MCL!""Playing "Take Me Out" over the loudspeakers...
Stay classy San Diego...
Is this just a rant in general? Because nobody has done that in this thread.i hate people who relish in other players getting hurt
who cares if you're not a fan of that player or team
thats just so dumb to me
i never wish injury on players.....even though i really detest some of them
His Left leg looked like it was bent in on the front left, which would stretch or tear the ligament located in the inside/ back of the leg. We've seen worse, but duece is out for the year on an injury that did not look as serious as rothy'sDL fell into his plant leg as he was throwing. Looks serious ... possible ACL or MCL tear, depending on the bend. It looked like it hyperextended to me, which would suggest ACL, but it could have been from the side also, which might be MCL.
I'm not a physician and I'm speculating. However, I have a reconstructed ACL, so take it for what it's worth. It could just be a sprain, but the bend looked serious and the way Ben reacted was serious.
Are you a doctor?And do you have him on your team.Everyone needs to relax. He has a hyperextended knee. He'll be fine. You can't tear an MCL or an ACL from the position his leg was hit. He'll miss at most 1 game.
Are you a doctor?And do you have him on your team.Everyone needs to relax. He has a hyperextended knee. He'll be fine. You can't tear an MCL or an ACL from the position his leg was hit. He'll miss at most 1 game.
My guesses would be "no" and "yes".
Actually the answer is YES and NO. I would never ever ever have Big Ben as my fantasy QB ever. Anyone want a sig bet on this one? A bag of ice or him being carted off the field after the game was over is no indication of the extent of the injury. Pick up a dictionary and look up the word...precautionary.Are you a doctor?And do you have him on your team.Everyone needs to relax. He has a hyperextended knee. He'll be fine. You can't tear an MCL or an ACL from the position his leg was hit. He'll miss at most 1 game.
My guesses would be "no" and "yes".
Hey Boston Fred!You're plastic! Angels fans are plastic! They know nothing about baseball. It was a Disney Corporation for cying out loud you tool! You pansy!That's too bad. I don't love the Steelers, and I know they've caused a lot of huge injuries to the Patriots over the last couple years, but Roethlisberger has been special. Without him, they're ####ed.
QUOTE(NY/NJMUFFDIVER @ Oct 21 2004, 07:11 PM)
Yes, the Yankees are the greatest chokers of all time
QUOTE(gateway @ Oct 10 2005, 11:22 PM)
I wish so many yankee fans weren't tools.
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Absolutely yes you can. ACL's typically go from twisting or hyperextension. MCL's usually go from blows to the outside of the knee, causing the joint to collapse inward. I hope you're right and it's just a strain, because the rehab is a #######ed treat.Are you a doctor?And do you have him on your team.Everyone needs to relax. He has a hyperextended knee. He'll be fine. You can't tear an MCL or an ACL from the position his leg was hit. He'll miss at most 1 game.
My guesses would be "no" and "yes".
This is why you get a 2nd opinion.Absolutely yes you can. ACL's typically go from twisting or hyperextension. MCL's usually go from blows to the outside of the knee, causing the joint to collapse inward. I hope you're right and it's just a strain, because the rehab is a #######ed treat.Are you a doctor?And do you have him on your team.Everyone needs to relax. He has a hyperextended knee. He'll be fine. You can't tear an MCL or an ACL from the position his leg was hit. He'll miss at most 1 game.
My guesses would be "no" and "yes".
And only 30 minutes after it was broke in the game thread.I am just glad I broke the story.
With your keen journalistic instincts, I'm surprised you're not an anchor for one of the big networks.This is why you get a 2nd opinion.Absolutely yes you can. ACL's typically go from twisting or hyperextension. MCL's usually go from blows to the outside of the knee, causing the joint to collapse inward. I hope you're right and it's just a strain, because the rehab is a #######ed treat.Are you a doctor?And do you have him on your team.Everyone needs to relax. He has a hyperextended knee. He'll be fine. You can't tear an MCL or an ACL from the position his leg was hit. He'll miss at most 1 game.
My guesses would be "no" and "yes".
I don't think anyone here is saying for sure what it is. Just speculation until we know, and informing people who didn't see the game what happened.
I am just glad I broke the story.
I have dial up.And only 30 minutes after it was broke in the game thread.I am just glad I broke the story.
Disney doesn't own the Angels you moron. P.S. The Angels had the 3rd largest attendance in all of MLB.Hey Boston Fred!You're plastic! Angels fans are plastic! They know nothing about baseball. It's a Disney Corporation for cying out loud you tool! You pansy!That's too bad. I don't love the Steelers, and I know they've caused a lot of huge injuries to the Patriots over the last couple years, but Roethlisberger has been special. Without him, they're ####ed.
QUOTE(NY/NJMUFFDIVER @ Oct 21 2004, 07:11 PM)
Yes, the Yankees are the greatest chokers of all time
QUOTE(gateway @ Oct 10 2005, 11:22 PM)
I wish so many yankee fans weren't tools.
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LET'S GO ANGELS
You've been an angels fan since when? October, 2005? Big Surprise.
Boston was swept, Right?
Go play with your Barbie!
Your article says nothing to support your claim that you can blow an ACL from a hyperextension. Exactly as I said that the way ben was hit, you can't rupture an ACL that way. I will 100% guarantee that the injury was a hyperextension and that Ben will have the chance to play this week. He may take 1 week off, but I don't see why he wouldn't play the following week. Most likely, he plays this week.Absolutely yes you can. ACL's typically go from twisting or hyperextension. MCL's usually go from blows to the outside of the knee, causing the joint to collapse inward. I hope you're right and it's just a strain, because the rehab is a #######ed treat.Are you a doctor?And do you have him on your team.Everyone needs to relax. He has a hyperextended knee. He'll be fine. You can't tear an MCL or an ACL from the position his leg was hit. He'll miss at most 1 game.
My guesses would be "no" and "yes".
Edit as below, for Dr. Grid:
Damage to the ACL frequently occurs with lateral blows to the knee (as happens with a tackle from the side in American football) and often is accompanied by injuries to the medial collateral ligament (MCL) and the medial meniscus, which is attached to the MCL; physicians are taught "...knee injuries come in threes - anterior cruciate, medial collateral, medial meniscus." Clinical studies, however, have noted a lateral meniscal tear to occur more commonly than the classic "terrible triad" noted previously. A damaged ACL can be confirmed (clinically) by a physician with the anterior drawer test, the Lachman test, or an MRI.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior_cruciate_ligament
Guys walk off the field with ACL (or MCL) tears all the time. I wouldn't be so quick to assume he's alright just because he was walking. His walking is insignificant in the diagnosis.Smart money is on Ben missing the rest of the year.That injury is going to stiffen up over night and swell. No way he's playing next Sunday, let's not forget this is a Monday night game on the West coast for Pittsburgh.
On the flip side, I'd be very surprised if he was out for lets say months. He was walking off the field with help. It didn't look like a Rodney Harrison injury where he couldn't walk at all off the field.
Good luck Ben!
He limped off the field with help.Also went to the locker room on a cart after the gameGuys walk off the field with ACL tears all the time. I wouldn't be so quick to assume he's alright just because he was walking. His walking is insignificant in the diagnosis.Smart money is on Ben missing the rest of the year.That injury is going to stiffen up over night and swell. No way he's playing next Sunday, let's not forget this is a Monday night game on the West coast for Pittsburgh.
On the flip side, I'd be very surprised if he was out for lets say months. He was walking off the field with help. It didn't look like a Rodney Harrison injury where he couldn't walk at all off the field.
Good luck Ben!
If This doesn't drive you crazy, I don't know what will!They may not be owned by them now, But that lame plastic stadium looks like Magic Mountain for crying out loud. Why? Cause Disney built the dumb thing!Disney doesn't own the Angels you moron. P.S. The Angels had the 3rd largest attendance in all of MLB.Hey Boston Fred!You're plastic! Angels fans are plastic! They know nothing about baseball. It's a Disney Corporation for cying out loud you tool! You pansy!That's too bad. I don't love the Steelers, and I know they've caused a lot of huge injuries to the Patriots over the last couple years, but Roethlisberger has been special. Without him, they're ####ed.
QUOTE(NY/NJMUFFDIVER @ Oct 21 2004, 07:11 PM)
Yes, the Yankees are the greatest chokers of all time
QUOTE(gateway @ Oct 10 2005, 11:22 PM)
I wish so many yankee fans weren't tools.
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LET'S GO ANGELS
You've been an angels fan since when? October, 2005? Big Surprise.
Boston was swept, Right?
Go play with your Barbie!
P.P.S. The Yanks are done! LMAO!!!
The smart money is on the fact that anybody jumping to conclusions either way and making statements such as these is an idiot.Smart money is on Ben missing the rest of the year.
I don't think you're supposed to have soda or sugary snacks this late at night. You should try to calm down and get some sleep.Hey Boston Fred!
You're plastic! Angels fans are plastic! They know nothing about baseball. It was a Disney Corporation for cying out loud you tool! You pansy!
You've been an angels fan since when? October, 2005? Big Surprise.
Boston was swept, Right?
Go play with your Barbie!