Roethlisberger better stay clear of Rodgers-Cromartie (1 Viewer)

[Day Drinker]

Possibly, though he had a tough time with Jackson, and Holmes is a similar type of WR.

I thought he played great against Jackson. He gave up one big play, that he actually made a fabulous recovery on. You put any other CB in the league in single coverage with no safety help over the middle against Jackson on an inside post route, and there would be 3 yards of seperation. He rocovered, closed, and went up for the pick instead of knocking it down. Got a hand on it and D Jax made a great play to haul it in...hats off to him.The two previous games he shut down Steve Smith and Roddy White. I think the hype is deserved, although I agree he is just a rookie and still makes some mistakes out there. He will NEED to shut down Holmes to allow our D to get a little crazy on Big Ben.

Roddy White had 11 catches and a TD. If Santonio Holmes catches anywhere near 11 passes he'll the MVP of Super Bowl XLIII.

That was my thought too. Allowing 11 catches isn't really shutting someone down, sure he probably wasn't on him for all 11, but claiming White was shut down is just wrong.I'd also argue that Delhomme did a lot more to shut Smith down than anything DRC did.

The Jackson play still happened, yeah, it was impressive that DRC recovered but he's also the guy who got behind in the 1st place and it's not like that was Jackson's only catch. Also, its DeSean Jackson(a fellow rookie) not like he was covering some All-Pro talent(you know, like the guy who had 11 catches)

I'm not knocking DRC and I wouldn't be surprised if he was able to shut down Holmes, but the idea that Roethlisberger should be "staying clear" of him is silly.

You guys are right. Being at the game, it seemed like he did a better job than that, but Roddy did get his, and was certainly not shut down. Nonetheless, holding Roddy to 84 yards on 11 catches (7.6 YPC) is pretty impressive from a rookie CB in his first post season game. I agree that that he is not good enough to completely gameplan around, but he certainly has game changing abilities.And Santonio won't be the MVP if he has 11 catches and they lose, just ask Roddy!

 

[Adebisi]

Nonetheless, holding Roddy to 84 yards on 11 catches (7.6 YPC) is pretty impressive from a rookie CB in his first post season game.

No, that is actually not the least bit impressive at all, no matter how you want to spin it.

 

[Day Drinker]

Nonetheless, holding Roddy to 84 yards on 11 catches (7.6 YPC) is pretty impressive from a rookie CB in his first post season game.

No, that is actually not the least bit impressive at all, no matter how you want to spin it.

You don't have to be impressed, but Cardinal fans were. He was a rookie in single coverage all day with a top 5 NFL WR, that's not spin, that's a fact. His ability to not allow YAC in that game is a big part of why we won. It is hard for us fantasy guys to grasp sometimes, but there is more to the game of football than the numbers in the statsheet after the game.His play on Steve Smith was a huge contribution against another top 5 WR, and D Jax beat him deep on a great play, which I give him props for, but he played him well throughout the game as well. Discounting the effect that DRC's play has had on our playoff run is crazy. The kid has stepped up and I look forward to watching him develop further. But like I said before, he's not quite good enough to gameplan around...yet.

 

[kremenull]

This kid is a rookie...since week 11 of the regular season, the 1st round rookie AZ cornerback has 7 picks, one returned for TD. That's 7 picks in 10 games....he's quickly becoming a shutdown corner but not yet being respected by teams as such. Yes, a long TD was scored against him in the Eagles game, but did you see his closing speed on that given play (and he did get a hand on the ball as well). Anyway, I think the Steelers would be wise to respect Dom. R-C as they would Ed Reed or any other vereran pro-bowl secondary player. If they go with "attacking the rookie" mentality, I think it could be a very bad move. Thoughts?

Hey, I agree with u buddy. I started a similar post not seeing that this one was already going.

 

[Adebisi]

You don't have to be impressed, but Cardinal fans were. He was a rookie in single coverage all day with a top 5 NFL WR, that's not spin, that's a fact. His ability to not allow YAC in that game is a big part of why we won. It is hard for us fantasy guys to grasp sometimes, but there is more to the game of football than the numbers in the statsheet after the game.

I just looked at the play-by-play recap, and I counted seven first downs for Roddy White. Seven. Is it possible that this low YAC could be due partially to Atlanta's designing plays that were geared towards getting first downs?

 

[Day Drinker]

You don't have to be impressed, but Cardinal fans were. He was a rookie in single coverage all day with a top 5 NFL WR, that's not spin, that's a fact. His ability to not allow YAC in that game is a big part of why we won. It is hard for us fantasy guys to grasp sometimes, but there is more to the game of football than the numbers in the statsheet after the game.

I just looked at the play-by-play recap, and I counted seven first downs for Roddy White. Seven. Is it possible that this low YAC could be due partially to Atlanta's designing plays that were geared towards getting first downs?

Sure it's possible. But its also possible that they just got it to Roddy any way they could, hoping he would make plays once he had the ball. But he didn't, and a large part of that is because of the way DRC played him after the catch.

 

[LHUCKS]

You don't have to be impressed, but Cardinal fans were. He was a rookie in single coverage all day with a top 5 NFL WR, that's not spin, that's a fact. His ability to not allow YAC in that game is a big part of why we won. It is hard for us fantasy guys to grasp sometimes, but there is more to the game of football than the numbers in the statsheet after the game.

I just looked at the play-by-play recap, and I counted seven first downs for Roddy White. Seven. Is it possible that this low YAC could be due partially to Atlanta's designing plays that were geared towards getting first downs?

Sure it's possible. But its also possible that they just got it to Roddy any way they could, hoping he would make plays once he had the ball. But he didn't, and a large part of that is because of the way DRC played him after the catch.

 

[Adebisi]

You don't have to be impressed, but Cardinal fans were. He was a rookie in single coverage all day with a top 5 NFL WR, that's not spin, that's a fact. His ability to not allow YAC in that game is a big part of why we won. It is hard for us fantasy guys to grasp sometimes, but there is more to the game of football than the numbers in the statsheet after the game.

I just looked at the play-by-play recap, and I counted seven first downs for Roddy White. Seven. Is it possible that this low YAC could be due partially to Atlanta's designing plays that were geared towards getting first downs?

Sure it's possible. But its also possible that they just got it to Roddy any way they could, hoping he would make plays once he had the ball. But he didn't, and a large part of that is because of the way DRC played him after the catch.

I suppose so. I think he's a good player who had a subpar game, as any player in the league will from time to time. 11 catches, 84 yards, 1 touchdown, and 7 first downs sounds like a pretty good day for a WR to me. You apparently feel differently. And that's cool.

 

[Mikey16x]

Uhhhh...I don't think so. And the Cards coaches forced DRC to give him that cushion...D coordinators often dictate that level of detail and Pendergrast did so in this game.

And you know this because you are privy to the Cardinals detailed defensive game plan?

Well realistically how else are you going to defend Deshaun Jackson?... If you press him.. that's 6.

 

[LHUCKS]

Uhhhh...I don't think so. And the Cards coaches forced DRC to give him that cushion...D coordinators often dictate that level of detail and Pendergrast did so in this game.

And you know this because you are privy to the Cardinals detailed defensive game plan?

Well realistically how else are you going to defend Deshaun Jackson?... If you press him.. that's 6.

You don't have to press him, you could play a five yards of him instead of 10 yards...DRC was told to lay off him in the second half after AZ had the big lead. If you re-watch the game you'll notice DRC played much more tighter in the first half.DRC can cover Jackson all day, all night.

 

[dirtywaters20]

Uhhhh...I don't think so. And the Cards coaches forced DRC to give him that cushion...D coordinators often dictate that level of detail and Pendergrast did so in this game.

And you know this because you are privy to the Cardinals detailed defensive game plan?

Well realistically how else are you going to defend Deshaun Jackson?... If you press him.. that's 6.

You don't have to press him, you could play a five yards of him instead of 10 yards...DRC was told to lay off him in the second half after AZ had the big lead. If you re-watch the game you'll notice DRC played much more tighter in the first half.DRC can cover Jackson all day, all night.

I'll take fact over your opinion everyday.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

Possibly, though he had a tough time with Jackson, and Holmes is a similar type of WR.

I thought he played great against Jackson. He gave up one big play, that he actually made a fabulous recovery on. You put any other CB in the league in single coverage with no safety help over the middle against Jackson on an inside post route, and there would be 3 yards of seperation. He rocovered, closed, and went up for the pick instead of knocking it down. Got a hand on it and D Jax made a great play to haul it in...hats off to him.The two previous games he shut down Steve Smith and Roddy White. I think the hype is deserved, although I agree he is just a rookie and still makes some mistakes out there. He will NEED to shut down Holmes to allow our D to get a little crazy on Big Ben.

Roddy White had 11 catches and a TD. If Santonio Holmes catches anywhere near 11 passes he's the MVP of Super Bowl XLIII.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

DRC showed that speed on a couple of plays yesterday and almost got a pick, but Santonio ate him alive in the second half. Cromartie is a great talent and a very good player, but let's not call him Prime Time just yet.

 

[Sheriff66]

Possibly, though he had a tough time with Jackson, and Holmes is a similar type of WR.

I thought he played great against Jackson. He gave up one big play, that he actually made a fabulous recovery on. You put any other CB in the league in single coverage with no safety help over the middle against Jackson on an inside post route, and there would be 3 yards of seperation. He rocovered, closed, and went up for the pick instead of knocking it down. Got a hand on it and D Jax made a great play to haul it in...hats off to him.The two previous games he shut down Steve Smith and Roddy White. I think the hype is deserved, although I agree he is just a rookie and still makes some mistakes out there. He will NEED to shut down Holmes to allow our D to get a little crazy on Big Ben.

Roddy White had 11 catches and a TD. If Santonio Holmes catches anywhere near 11 passes he's the MVP of Super Bowl XLIII.

 

[Black Box]

DRC showed that speed on a couple of plays yesterday and almost got a pick, but Santonio ate him alive in the second half. Cromartie is a great talent and a very good player, but let's not call him Prime Time just yet.

Closing and knocking the ball away from Washington on the bomb (attack the ball, Nate!), and on one other play, which is escaping my memory, he flashed very good skills.

Arizona definitely has a good DB on their hands in him, but he is rough around the edges, IMHO.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

Rodgers Cromartie shut down all the deep balls thrown his way (which wasn't many), but struggled with the underneath stuff yesterday. I think the Steelers must have scouted him pretty good to see where he was vulerable which is coming up to make the tackles on the underneath stuff.

 

[LHUCKS]

Rodgers Cromartie shut down all the deep balls thrown his way (which wasn't many), but struggled with the underneath stuff yesterday. I think the Steelers must have scouted him pretty good to see where he was vulerable which is coming up to make the tackles on the underneath stuff.

A lot of the underneath stuff was due to the soft coverage dictated by the D Coordinator and had little to do with DRC's ability to cover. Additionally, the big play Santonio broke near the end was in soft spot in the Cover2 scheme.

 

[Scotch Rocks]

The play where he showed "exceptional closing speed" by knocking away the bomb to Washington required a lot of good fortune to keep him from looking terrible.

Washington had absolutely burned him deep, and had Ben not underthrown that ball by 3 yards, DRC would have looked like a boy among men on that play. He was bailed out by a QB's poor throw, after he'd already screwed up his job as a cover man.

Guy was extremely lucky he only wound up looking awful, when he was one fairly routine throw away from having been torched for 200+ and multiple TD's by his assignments on the game's biggest stage.

 

[dotman]

The play where he showed "exceptional closing speed" by knocking away the bomb to Washington required a lot of good fortune to keep him from looking terrible.Washington had absolutely burned him deep, and had Ben not underthrown that ball by 3 yards, DRC would have looked like a boy among men on that play. He was bailed out by a QB's poor throw, after he'd already screwed up his job as a cover man.Guy was extremely lucky he only wound up looking awful, when he was one fairly routine throw away from having been torched for 200+ and multiple TD's by his assignments on the game's biggest stage.

That ball was underthrown by more than 3 yards.....it was a good play but Big Ben did bail him out there.