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I don't think either of these changes are very beneficial to the league.
The player pool in the NFL is so vast that trying to make the draft more "fan friendly" could be a big detriment to the quality of the draft.
And the Pro Bowl before the SB will likely eliminate ~8-10+ players from attending each year.
I'll give both of these a thumbs down.
The player pool in the NFL is so vast that trying to make the draft more "fan friendly" could be a big detriment to the quality of the draft.
And the Pro Bowl before the SB will likely eliminate ~8-10+ players from attending each year.
I'll give both of these a thumbs down.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Teams will have 10 minutes rather than 15 to make first-round picks and time limits for later rounds will also be reduced.
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Max Power
Footballguy
just curious what you mean by this...
Sheriff66
Footballguy
DUMBJust name an All-Pro team an eliminate the game itself all together, send the guys to Hawaii for a vacation instead...
Sabertooth
Footballguy
The Vikings might miss entire rounds of the draft.
greenf7cat
Footballguy
You beat me to it!!! Nice work
bostonfred
Footballguy
Ratings on the pro bowl are down because people are generally less excited about an exhibition game after the Superbowl. Goodell wants to increase ratings by moving the game to a time when people are still excited about football. That makes good sense. And the media will hype the Pro Bowl, because they're dying to talk about anything football related during the two weeks between the CCGs and the Superbowl. It's a good business decision, and it gives players on non-Superbowl teams a chance to get their name out there while the Superbowl players get their chance the following week. Win-win from a marketability standpoint.
thegenerel
Footballguy
a time reduction in the first rd is understandable. all 32 teams should have a pretty good idea who they were going to draft. i believe most of the 15 mins is spent talking to other teams.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
i'd say do something akin to the All Star break for the Pro Bowl. Call it the whatever you want, but all teams get a bye that week. you can schedule it to coincide with the week after all byes are over with. that way, it's still during the season, and teams/players can make use of an additional week to make changes to enhance their competitiveness (or just to recover from injuries).
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
THAT'S what is needed!!!!!!!
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Gotta give credit to the NFL for having good, solid common sense leadership... it is truely what seperates them from the MLB, NBA and NHL.
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
I like the idea of the Pro Bowl being moved to the week before the SuperBowl, but is it realistic? That would put it a week after the Conference championships, meaning the losers would have a day or so before hopping on a plane and flying to Hawaii for practice and all the events. Not sure that's doable, and not sure that players coming off such a big loss would be anxious to jump into another media circus that quickly.
And a Pro Bowl isn't much of a pro bowl if you were to eliminate the players from the top 4 teams.
And a Pro Bowl isn't much of a pro bowl if you were to eliminate the players from the top 4 teams.
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Kiddnets
Footballguy
If he gets a rookie cap he becomes the best commish in my book!THAT'S what is needed!!!!!!!
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
absolutely. it's way WAY out of control right now. if i were a GM and no rookie cap were in place, i'd almost always be trading out of any early first round picks. too much money to pay someone who has done nothing and who may never amount to anything.If he gets a rookie cap he becomes the best commish in my book!THAT'S what is needed!!!!!!!
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Rookie cap would be a very good idea. There would be no reason to hold out, and players would have to prove themselves to get paid, like every other profession.absolutely. it's way WAY out of control right now. if i were a GM and no rookie cap were in place, i'd almost always be trading out of any early first round picks. too much money to pay someone who has done nothing and who may never amount to anything.If he gets a rookie cap he becomes the best commish in my book!THAT'S what is needed!!!!!!!
BusterTBronco
Footballguy
Yes, and I heard he wants to make the first round of the Draft a prime time event with performances by the likes of In-Sync and Brittany Spears.
Gotta love Roger Goodell! He's da bomb!
Gotta love Roger Goodell! He's da bomb!
I could care less about the Pro Bowl or reducing the time of the draft. However, a rookie salary cap would be a godsend. It is bad for business to make the highest paid players on the team rookies. Romo is considered by many a Pro Bowl QB and he is looking to get LESS than that fat rook Russell who will has yet to toss a pass. Makes no sense-
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The Pro Bowl idea is stupid. That means that a bunch of alternates will make it, meaning players will be able to pad their resume with undeserved Pro Bowl bids (which far too many people use when discussing Hall of Fame worthiness, for example).
I think a rookie cap would be fought HARD by the Players association.
That said, it's a good idea. Don't care much about the Pro Bowl - losing the top few teams worth of players won't kill it for me as my interest is as low as it can be now.
10 minute per pick is a good move, IMO.
That said, it's a good idea. Don't care much about the Pro Bowl - losing the top few teams worth of players won't kill it for me as my interest is as low as it can be now.
10 minute per pick is a good move, IMO.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
I'm not sure how hard the Player's union will fight this would be a lot more money to give player's already in the union at the expense of players not in the union...makes too much sense - NBA is a perfect example - established players - especially mid range are getting more money now that rooks are capped. Even if it is only a 3-4 ty cap on the contract it gives the teams enough to get a look to see if th player is a bust or not...
Koya
Footballguy
I like BOTH ideas. Re: draft - with all the data and consultants and experts, you don't need 15 minutes. 10 is PLENTY. (except for the vikings, as noted).
Pro Bowl - GREAT idea. For those who dont like it because of the elimination of some key players... wouldnt you rather have a game that carried SOME interest even without a few key players as opposed to having all the players in a game that you couldnt care about at all?
And I dont think this will eliminate anyone other than the players for the Super Bowl team - the guys from the Superbowl play the week after in the Pro Bowl as it stands today, why couldnt the losing teams players from the two championship games do the same? Not like they will get all behind on memorizing a playbook.
Pro Bowl - GREAT idea. For those who dont like it because of the elimination of some key players... wouldnt you rather have a game that carried SOME interest even without a few key players as opposed to having all the players in a game that you couldnt care about at all?
And I dont think this will eliminate anyone other than the players for the Super Bowl team - the guys from the Superbowl play the week after in the Pro Bowl as it stands today, why couldnt the losing teams players from the two championship games do the same? Not like they will get all behind on memorizing a playbook.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
This makes sense, but why not play it before the season the following year? Maybe play it at Canton for the HOF game...
stevegamer
Footballguy
10 minutes per first round pick makes it move, not drag. that's a plus.
Pro bowl schedule change - whatever - I'll watch it if I've got nothing better to do.
Pro bowl schedule change - whatever - I'll watch it if I've got nothing better to do.
EdwardCat
Footballguy
BST?Teams will have 10 minutes rather than 15 to make first-round picks and time limits for later rounds will also be reduced.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
BigSteelThrill = BSTBST?Teams will have 10 minutes rather than 15 to make first-round picks and time limits for later rounds will also be reduced.
BST==><==Roger
Koya
Footballguy
But, waiting for that extra stupid week for the SB is prime time for ANY football game. Lets face it, the REAL NFL season ends with the Championship games. Then you have a couple weeks of hype and a 6 hour marketing fest with a smattering of "football" tossed in.But I will take ANY football that weekend before...
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
May i suggest...cheerleaders
Ksquared
Footballguy
This is very true, we don't want alternates to be taking the place of the voted in pro-bowler... Oh wait, they already do this..
Vikes Fan
Footballguy
I don't think this would work in football the way it does in the NBA because of the injury factor being higher in football. Think of Drew Brees. Players would be opting out all over the place because of the injury risk or teams would be going nuts because they lost a key guy. Has to be after the season (or before the SB).
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
The Cowboys too!!
steelcityman
Footballguy
So the pro-bowl loses some players, good players, but at the same time, it will gain viewers and it really could be a time for super bowl teams to get some relaxation heading into the SB week. It cant get worse than it already is.
The draft is already fan friendly. But chopping 5 minutes off pick time, when teams have months to prepare wont hurt teams and could help viewers. I say do Friday night ast round, 15 minutes to hype the players taken. Then resume Saturday with rds 2-4, and 5-7 on Sunday. You could even add a round to the draft.
I'm for both though. Good moves.
The draft is already fan friendly. But chopping 5 minutes off pick time, when teams have months to prepare wont hurt teams and could help viewers. I say do Friday night ast round, 15 minutes to hype the players taken. Then resume Saturday with rds 2-4, and 5-7 on Sunday. You could even add a round to the draft.
I'm for both though. Good moves.
EdwardCat
Footballguy
And BigSteelThrill means?BigSteelThrill = BSTBST?Teams will have 10 minutes rather than 15 to make first-round picks and time limits for later rounds will also be reduced.
BST==><==Roger
knuckles69
Footballguy
Exactly. The ratings for the Pro Bowl are goinmg to take a large jump. For us football starved fans it gives us something to watch until the SB and in all likelihood would probably watch it now. I am sure they would use the Pro Bowl as an opportunity to hype the SB. I would probably tune in just for the analysis and commentary on the SB. Once SB is done I have no interest in watching a meaninles Pro Bowl. Win win for the fans and for the NFL in my opinion. I also love the idea of only ten minutes between picks. Great move there.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Because no team would want their player to go and risk the chance of injury before the season even starts. That's the main reason teams want to make the preseason shorter. Half the pro bowl players don't even suit up in the preseason, and the other half barely play four full quarters. A game that was only pro bowl players, before the season? No way that happens.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Thats his user nameAnd BigSteelThrill means?BigSteelThrill = BSTBST?Teams will have 10 minutes rather than 15 to make first-round picks and time limits for later rounds will also be reduced.
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Whats EdwardCat mean? Southside Stosh
Footballguy
Sadly, and I do mean SADLY, this could not be more wrong.The NFLPA Union Head is Gene Upshaw. His agent is Tom Condon. Condon also sits on an advisory board for the NFLPA.
Condon and the agency he works for, and the industry he works in also makes millions of dollars in commissions from top NFL draft picks.
Anyone else see the HUGE FREAKIN CONFLICT OF INTEREST there?
How the players have not revolted against Upshaw I do not understand, but until they get some leadership on the player's side (Troy Vincent maybe?) the veteran players are going to continued getting screwed so Upshaw and Condon can make their money.
jimmy b
Footballguy
As far as Pre-season games go 4 is way to many, nobody plays in them half the time any way. A quarter here
and a quarter there and the starter's are outta there. From what i hear is that 2 pre season games will be
eliminated and (i'm not sure if it will be a 17 or 18 game season) but every team will play a game out of the country.
London, New Mexico, Europe, etc. No link,heard this about 2 months ago on a sports talk radio station.
and a quarter there and the starter's are outta there. From what i hear is that 2 pre season games will be
eliminated and (i'm not sure if it will be a 17 or 18 game season) but every team will play a game out of the country.
London, New Mexico, Europe, etc. No link,heard this about 2 months ago on a sports talk radio station.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Quicker draft, less pre season games, rookie cap, banning punks from the league - Roger is wasting no time in making me forget all about Tags!!!!
