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I tossed him in my lineup because Houston was supposed to be a golden matchup for MLB....phfttt......that wont happen again until I see him explode ON MY BENCH. Hopefully he can get this figured out by the end of the season and I wont have wasted all the money I dumped on his ### during the draft.
fwiw I believe theres a chance his best mtachups are comming wk9 if not sooner like wk 8 (total of about 4 or 5 games in a row) not countin bye wk 10. I really had planned to play him for bye replacement, but I just lost Ryans. Im a lil more tentative to start McClain now and considering replacements.
 
This is only based on yesterday's game...

He seems slow to diagnose the play and doesn't have the quickness to make up for it. He doesn't seem to pay attention to his reads like pulling guards/tackles, and waits and tries to spy into the backfield. He is rarely the first guy to the ball.

He gets caught in the wash very easy. Gore played the kid bigtime on each of his long runs.

I just traded a ton for him, but I'm not expecting much this year. I'm hoping with a full offseason of film study he can make a big jump next year.

 
5Rings said:
This is only based on yesterday's game...He seems slow to diagnose the play and doesn't have the quickness to make up for it. He doesn't seem to pay attention to his reads like pulling guards/tackles, and waits and tries to spy into the backfield. He is rarely the first guy to the ball.He gets caught in the wash very easy. Gore played the kid bigtime on each of his long runs.I just traded a ton for him, but I'm not expecting much this year. I'm hoping with a full offseason of film study he can make a big jump next year.
He's been playing like that all year. He's a bum.
 
Watching this guy makes me mad. He just jogs around the field. He has no intensity. He has no heart. He is a complete bust and a liability.

 
From the SP's Raiders thread:

McClain’s mind ahead of playmaking _ so far

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

Saturday, October 23rd, 2010 at 10:16 am in Oakland Raiders.

It’s been only six games, a small portion of what probably will encompass the career of middle linebacker Rolando McClain.

The most impatient of the fan base is already throwing around the B-word, given his selection as the No. 8 pick in the NFL draft.

They expected more than no sacks, no interceptions, no forced fumbles, no recovered fumbles. So did yours truly, who made a case both on the air and in this forum about why the Raiders needed to select McClain in the draft (and was utterly astonished that Al Davis felt the same way).

So did defensive coordinator John Marshall, who said he chided McClain about the lack of turnovers this week.

Surely, McClain would help the NFL’s most inept rushing defense over previous seven seasons (29th, 31st, 31st, 25th, 25th, 22nd and 32nd) and stem the tidal wave of rushing touchdowns (146 in those 112 games).

Instead, the Raiders are ranked 31st through six games, coming off a game in which Frank Gore rushed for 149 yards and McClain found himself blocked out of a late 64-yard run by fullback Moran Norris which helped the 49ers put the game away _ precisely the kind of play he was selected to stop.

McClain is probably frustrated as well, but he’s not talking. He explained to me earlier this week it’s nothing personal, he simply isn’t comfortable doing interviews or dealing with the media. As he put it, “Sometimes I say yes, sometimes I say no, but 99 times out of a hundred I say no.”

Job interviews were another matter. McClain impressed virtually everyone he met with his knowledge and understanding of theories and concepts, and that included Denver coach Josh McDaniels.

“I don’t know if I have ever interviewed a more intelligent defensive player at the combine or in person here in our building than Rolando McClain,” McDaniels told Denver reporters this week. “He was off the charts, and he’s a guy that plays physical, he is big and he is a good player in the run game.

“They have kept him on the field every snap — he’s not coming off on third down and he is in there in the dime. You can tell how much he is communicating and for a rookie to be able to do that his first year against all the different looks he is seeing and all the different packages, I think what he showed us has really transferred over and he’s using it now for them. We liked him a lot. It was definitely part of the consideration as a guy that you would have to look at to take that high, and he is definitely going to be an impact player for them for a long time.”

McDaniels has been throwing bouquets at the Raiders all week, but it’s worth remembering that it’s been only six games and McClain has been given a huge responsibility to quarterback the defense as a rookie.

Said Marshall: “He’s smart and the players respect him and he runs that defense, you know? The great thing about him is he’s very situation aware. He knows what’s going on on field, he knows what’s on the field and that kind of thing. And I enjoy coaching him on the sideline. He can get angry, but he’s not a guy that loses it and blocks you out. You know, so he can discuss, he talks and he’s good on the sideline.”

Early in the season, Cable talked of McClain having the proper knowledge but was still working on “pulling the trigger.”

Asked about it Friday, Cable said, “In that regard I think he’s making progress. I think what John was alluding to was last week he had a chance for the interception. Those are impact play and I think those are coming more and more to him now, let’s get him making those plays. But in terms of playing the position and his progression and everything I think he’s on track now, I think he’s doing well.”

Given Denver’s propensity to use multiple wide receivers including the same kind of underneath routes Wes Welker thrives with in New England (McDaniels ran the Patriots offense before being hired by Denver), a lot of action will be coming McClain’s way Sunday.

Marshall pointed to a play McClain made behind the line of scrimmage where he appeared to be reacting rather than thinking, dropping Gore for a loss, as an example of what he expects.

McClain saw an opening, abandoned his over-the-top responsibility and knifed in to make the tackle.

“I tell them, I don’t want a bunch of iron deer on the lawn, cardboard cutouts, (where they say) `Oh, I’m doing what coach said. I’m not making any plays, but I’m doing that,’ ” Marshall said. “He just went and made a football play on that one.”
 
From the SP's Raiders thread:

McClain’s mind ahead of playmaking _ so far

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

Saturday, October 23rd, 2010 at 10:16 am in Oakland Raiders.

It’s been only six games, a small portion of what probably will encompass the career of middle linebacker Rolando McClain.

The most impatient of the fan base is already throwing around the B-word, given his selection as the No. 8 pick in the NFL draft.

They expected more than no sacks, no interceptions, no forced fumbles, no recovered fumbles. So did yours truly, who made a case both on the air and in this forum about why the Raiders needed to select McClain in the draft (and was utterly astonished that Al Davis felt the same way).

So did defensive coordinator John Marshall, who said he chided McClain about the lack of turnovers this week.

Surely, McClain would help the NFL’s most inept rushing defense over previous seven seasons (29th, 31st, 31st, 25th, 25th, 22nd and 32nd) and stem the tidal wave of rushing touchdowns (146 in those 112 games).

Instead, the Raiders are ranked 31st through six games, coming off a game in which Frank Gore rushed for 149 yards and McClain found himself blocked out of a late 64-yard run by fullback Moran Norris which helped the 49ers put the game away _ precisely the kind of play he was selected to stop.

McClain is probably frustrated as well, but he’s not talking. He explained to me earlier this week it’s nothing personal, he simply isn’t comfortable doing interviews or dealing with the media. As he put it, “Sometimes I say yes, sometimes I say no, but 99 times out of a hundred I say no.”

Job interviews were another matter. McClain impressed virtually everyone he met with his knowledge and understanding of theories and concepts, and that included Denver coach Josh McDaniels.

“I don’t know if I have ever interviewed a more intelligent defensive player at the combine or in person here in our building than Rolando McClain,” McDaniels told Denver reporters this week. “He was off the charts, and he’s a guy that plays physical, he is big and he is a good player in the run game.

“They have kept him on the field every snap — he’s not coming off on third down and he is in there in the dime. You can tell how much he is communicating and for a rookie to be able to do that his first year against all the different looks he is seeing and all the different packages, I think what he showed us has really transferred over and he’s using it now for them. We liked him a lot. It was definitely part of the consideration as a guy that you would have to look at to take that high, and he is definitely going to be an impact player for them for a long time.”

McDaniels has been throwing bouquets at the Raiders all week, but it’s worth remembering that it’s been only six games and McClain has been given a huge responsibility to quarterback the defense as a rookie.

Said Marshall: “He’s smart and the players respect him and he runs that defense, you know? The great thing about him is he’s very situation aware. He knows what’s going on on field, he knows what’s on the field and that kind of thing. And I enjoy coaching him on the sideline. He can get angry, but he’s not a guy that loses it and blocks you out. You know, so he can discuss, he talks and he’s good on the sideline.”

Early in the season, Cable talked of McClain having the proper knowledge but was still working on “pulling the trigger.”

Asked about it Friday, Cable said, “In that regard I think he’s making progress. I think what John was alluding to was last week he had a chance for the interception. Those are impact play and I think those are coming more and more to him now, let’s get him making those plays. But in terms of playing the position and his progression and everything I think he’s on track now, I think he’s doing well.”

Given Denver’s propensity to use multiple wide receivers including the same kind of underneath routes Wes Welker thrives with in New England (McDaniels ran the Patriots offense before being hired by Denver), a lot of action will be coming McClain’s way Sunday.

Marshall pointed to a play McClain made behind the line of scrimmage where he appeared to be reacting rather than thinking, dropping Gore for a loss, as an example of what he expects.

McClain saw an opening, abandoned his over-the-top responsibility and knifed in to make the tackle.

“I tell them, I don’t want a bunch of iron deer on the lawn, cardboard cutouts, (where they say) `Oh, I’m doing what coach said. I’m not making any plays, but I’m doing that,’ ” Marshall said. “He just went and made a football play on that one.”
It'd be nice if some of his "progress", would transfer to some tackles, sacks and int's.
 
hippyk said:
Groucho Glasses said:
From the SP's Raiders thread:

Raiderfan32904 said:
McClain’s mind ahead of playmaking _ so far

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

Saturday, October 23rd, 2010 at 10:16 am in Oakland Raiders.

It’s been only six games, a small portion of what probably will encompass the career of middle linebacker Rolando McClain.

The most impatient of the fan base is already throwing around the B-word, given his selection as the No. 8 pick in the NFL draft.

They expected more than no sacks, no interceptions, no forced fumbles, no recovered fumbles. So did yours truly, who made a case both on the air and in this forum about why the Raiders needed to select McClain in the draft (and was utterly astonished that Al Davis felt the same way).

So did defensive coordinator John Marshall, who said he chided McClain about the lack of turnovers this week.

Surely, McClain would help the NFL’s most inept rushing defense over previous seven seasons (29th, 31st, 31st, 25th, 25th, 22nd and 32nd) and stem the tidal wave of rushing touchdowns (146 in those 112 games).

Instead, the Raiders are ranked 31st through six games, coming off a game in which Frank Gore rushed for 149 yards and McClain found himself blocked out of a late 64-yard run by fullback Moran Norris which helped the 49ers put the game away _ precisely the kind of play he was selected to stop.

McClain is probably frustrated as well, but he’s not talking. He explained to me earlier this week it’s nothing personal, he simply isn’t comfortable doing interviews or dealing with the media. As he put it, “Sometimes I say yes, sometimes I say no, but 99 times out of a hundred I say no.”

Job interviews were another matter. McClain impressed virtually everyone he met with his knowledge and understanding of theories and concepts, and that included Denver coach Josh McDaniels.

“I don’t know if I have ever interviewed a more intelligent defensive player at the combine or in person here in our building than Rolando McClain,” McDaniels told Denver reporters this week. “He was off the charts, and he’s a guy that plays physical, he is big and he is a good player in the run game.

“They have kept him on the field every snap — he’s not coming off on third down and he is in there in the dime. You can tell how much he is communicating and for a rookie to be able to do that his first year against all the different looks he is seeing and all the different packages, I think what he showed us has really transferred over and he’s using it now for them. We liked him a lot. It was definitely part of the consideration as a guy that you would have to look at to take that high, and he is definitely going to be an impact player for them for a long time.”

McDaniels has been throwing bouquets at the Raiders all week, but it’s worth remembering that it’s been only six games and McClain has been given a huge responsibility to quarterback the defense as a rookie.

Said Marshall: “He’s smart and the players respect him and he runs that defense, you know? The great thing about him is he’s very situation aware. He knows what’s going on on field, he knows what’s on the field and that kind of thing. And I enjoy coaching him on the sideline. He can get angry, but he’s not a guy that loses it and blocks you out. You know, so he can discuss, he talks and he’s good on the sideline.”

Early in the season, Cable talked of McClain having the proper knowledge but was still working on “pulling the trigger.”

Asked about it Friday, Cable said, “In that regard I think he’s making progress. I think what John was alluding to was last week he had a chance for the interception. Those are impact play and I think those are coming more and more to him now, let’s get him making those plays. But in terms of playing the position and his progression and everything I think he’s on track now, I think he’s doing well.”

Given Denver’s propensity to use multiple wide receivers including the same kind of underneath routes Wes Welker thrives with in New England (McDaniels ran the Patriots offense before being hired by Denver), a lot of action will be coming McClain’s way Sunday.

Marshall pointed to a play McClain made behind the line of scrimmage where he appeared to be reacting rather than thinking, dropping Gore for a loss, as an example of what he expects.

McClain saw an opening, abandoned his over-the-top responsibility and knifed in to make the tackle.

“I tell them, I don’t want a bunch of iron deer on the lawn, cardboard cutouts, (where they say) `Oh, I’m doing what coach said. I’m not making any plays, but I’m doing that,’ ” Marshall said. “He just went and made a football play on that one.”
It'd be nice if some of his "progress", would transfer to some tackles, sacks and int's.
If it's truly progress, it eventually will in the long run. In the words of John Maynard Keynes, however, "In the long run we're all dead."
 
Groucho Glasses said:
From the SP's Raiders thread:

Raiderfan32904 said:
McClain’s mind ahead of playmaking _ so far

“I tell them, I don’t want a bunch of iron deer on the lawn, cardboard cutouts, (where they say) `Oh, I’m doing what coach said. I’m not making any plays, but I’m doing that,’ ” Marshall said. “He just went and made a football play on that one.”
= Visualize and attack!
 
3 tackles-2 assists yesterday. Probably not a ton of opportunities since they blew out their opponent.

Nothing special once again.

 
KC will run it 35-40 times this week so he should get a lot of clear-up opportunities, regardless of how many yards down the field they are.

 
Brown ran it something like 20 times, and Williams something like 24. That is some good opportunity right there. I saw the pic and it was good a good one. I still dont see this guy putting up any good numbers with average opportunity.

chook said:
I vote the former.
Do you base this on anything other than being a McClain dynasty owner? :P
 
Raiders coach Tom Cable revealed Friday that MLB Rolando McClain's left foot injury is arthritis.

"He was better last night, but worse this morning, so it will be day-to-day and we’ll probably have to wait until Sunday morning," said Cable of McClain's status. The eighth overall pick in April's draft, McClain has been spotted "limping and favoring" the foot around the Raiders' facility. According to the Oakland Tribune, the Raiders "don't know what to expect."

Source: Oakland Tribune

 
Raiders coach Tom Cable revealed Friday that MLB Rolando McClain's left foot injury is arthritis."He was better last night, but worse this morning, so it will be day-to-day and we’ll probably have to wait until Sunday morning," said Cable of McClain's status. The eighth overall pick in April's draft, McClain has been spotted "limping and favoring" the foot around the Raiders' facility. According to the Oakland Tribune, the Raiders "don't know what to expect."Source: Oakland Tribune
Um, that never really goes away, does it? :lmao:
 
Crohns and arthritis very often go hand in hand. The arthritis usually flairs up when the crohns does. Unlike regular arthritis though crohns related arthritis doesnt cause long lasting damage. Mainly something that has to be managed like the crohns itself. Usually when you get the crohns under control the arthritis is as well.

 
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Crohns and arthritis very often go hand in hand. The arthritis usually flairs up when the crohns does. Unlike regular arthritis though crohns related arthritis doesnt cause long lasting damage. Mainly something that has to be managed like the crohns itself. Usually when you get the crohns under control the arthritis is as well.
That was my first thought as well. I thought I remembered a report suggesting that the Crohn's diagnosis was incorrect and I think the foot is an unusual spot for an isolated arthritis (though I could be wrong about that). Hopefully this is a short-lived issue, however, or there are serious long term concerns for his future durability.
 
can't you get arthritis as just the end result of wear and tear?

that's why it's more unusual in younger people, but not impossible if you have the right combination of maybe genetics and activity.

if he, say, doesn't run with proper mechanics, or maybe gets injured, I could see how he might wear down the cartilage in some joint on his foot faster than most athletes normally do.

and as far as I know, it basically IS something you just have to live with, so I'd imagine it'd be kind of a chronic pain management issue.

edit: here's what the ol' sacbee had to say............

McClain has arthritis – Tests on middle linebacker Rolando McClain's sore foot revealed arthritis, Raiders coach Tom Cable said.

McClain didn't practice Friday, and he is questionable for Sunday's game. He has started all 11 games this season.

Cable said doctors are working out a treatment plan for McClain, who didn't have any known history of arthritis before it showed up Wednesday.

Ricky Brown would start in the middle if McClain can't play.

http://www.sacbee.com/2010/12/04/3232039/f...ller-gates.html

 
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Crohns and arthritis very often go hand in hand. The arthritis usually flairs up when the crohns does. Unlike regular arthritis though crohns related arthritis doesnt cause long lasting damage. Mainly something that has to be managed like the crohns itself. Usually when you get the crohns under control the arthritis is as well.
That was my first thought as well. I thought I remembered a report suggesting that the Crohn's diagnosis was incorrect and I think the foot is an unusual spot for an isolated arthritis (though I could be wrong about that). Hopefully this is a short-lived issue, however, or there are serious long term concerns for his future durability.
Yeah read that as well, whether it was crohns or not. That said he has/had something whether it was crohns, ulcerative colitis, ibs etc. All are related and all are related to arthritis.
 
can't you get arthritis as just the end result of wear and tear?

that's why it's more unusual in younger people, but not impossible if you have the right combination of maybe genetics and activity.

if he, say, doesn't run with proper mechanics, or maybe gets injured, I could see how he might wear down the cartilage in some joint on his foot faster than most athletes normally do.

and as far as I know, it basically IS something you just have to live with, so I'd imagine it'd be kind of a chronic pain management issue.

edit: here's what the ol' sacbee had to say............

McClain has arthritis – Tests on middle linebacker Rolando McClain's sore foot revealed arthritis, Raiders coach Tom Cable said.

McClain didn't practice Friday, and he is questionable for Sunday's game. He has started all 11 games this season.

Cable said doctors are working out a treatment plan for McClain, who didn't have any known history of arthritis before it showed up Wednesday.

Ricky Brown would start in the middle if McClain can't play.

http://www.sacbee.com/2010/12/04/3232039/f...ller-gates.html
So many different forms and reasons for arthritis. From degenerative, to autoimmune to viral to dozens of other things.
 
I'm not sure if it has been stated already (as I can't read about Mr. McClain for too long without getting bored), however, arthritis and Crohn's are both autoimmune diseases. It sounds to me as if McClain has peripheral arthritis that is being caused by a flare up of his Crohn's disease. Without going into too much detail, this really isn't much of a long term concern. Well, at least it isn't any more of a long term concern than Percy Harvin's migraines. It is just something that McClain will have to manage and he may miss 1-2 games/year because of it if he isn't managing it well.

 
"You wouldn't have known McClain was injured at all Sunday, as he racked up seven tackles and laid a bone-crushing hit on Darren Sproles that concussed San Diego's specialty back. McClain should be good to go moving forward."

 

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