Ron Dayne expected to steal goaline carries (1 Viewer)

[gbill2004]

What impact does this have on Morency, and to a lesser degree, Lundy? Was Davis the goal line RB before he got injured?

Sep 3 John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports Houston Texans RB Ron Dayne, who weighs 245 pounds, is expected to be used in short-yardage and goaline situations with the Texans. Rookie RB Wali Lundy is expected to remain the starting running back. "He gives us a real bruiser," head coach Gary Kubiak said of Dayne. "He can pound the ball. He's got more size than our other two. Because we're familiar with him, he can step right into our offense on Tuesday (Sept. 5) and know exactly what we're doing. At this point that's a tremendous advantage for us."

 

[Slinger]

 

[pghrob]

At this point, the reporter states, "Is expected"....without any quotes from Kubiak that he will be the GL back.

 

[sparkky]

good luck to him. he hasn't ever proven he's been much good at short yardage/goal line duties.

 

[gbill2004]

At this point, the reporter states, "Is expected"....without any quotes from Kubiak that he will be the GL back.

Well, I'm sure he has a source, and wouldnt just say that...

 

[ffchamp1]

At this point, the reporter states, "Is expected"....without any quotes from Kubiak that he will be the GL back.

Well, I'm sure he has a source, and wouldnt just say that...

 

[Mik789fl]

What impact does this have on Morency, and to a lesser degree, Lundy? Was Davis the goal line RB before he got injured?

Sep 3 John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports Houston Texans RB Ron Dayne, who weighs 245 pounds, is expected to be used in short-yardage and goaline situations with the Texans. Rookie RB Wali Lundy is expected to remain the starting running back. "He gives us a real bruiser," head coach Gary Kubiak said of Dayne. "He can pound the ball. He's got more size than our other two. Because we're familiar with him, he can step right into our offense on Tuesday (Sept. 5) and know exactly what we're doing. At this point that's a tremendous advantage for us."

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[Boris]

Is there really still a belief out there that Dayne is a bruiser? :

 

[Looking4Answers]

Dayne is a great short yardage/goal line back just ask the Giants

 

[taz]

Is there really still a belief out there that Dayne is a bruiser? :

Here's Kubiak's quote:

"He gives us a real bruiser. He can pound the ball. He's got more size than our other two. Because we're familiar with him, he can step right into our offense on Tuesday and know exactly what we're doing. At this point that's a tremendous advantage for us."

We can laugh all we want, but it sure sounds like Kubiak's going to use Dayne in short yardage.

 

[gbill2004]

How dies this impact Morency, and to a lesser extent Lundy?

 

[Nemesis Enforcer]

Dayne is a great short yardage/goal line back just ask the Giants

I was just going to say this. When will this myth be put to rest? For the Giants he did not punch the ball in at the goalline like they had envisioned and he struggled to convert 3rd and short. iirc tiki took back over when they realized that Dayne couldn't do it.maybe third time is a charm, he couldn't do it in NY, nor Den but I guess things will be different Houston.

 

[Mik789fl]

Is there really still a belief out there that Dayne is a bruiser? :

Here's Kubiak's quote:

"He gives us a real bruiser. He can pound the ball. He's got more size than our other two. Because we're familiar with him, he can step right into our offense on Tuesday and know exactly what we're doing. At this point that's a tremendous advantage for us."

We can laugh all we want, but it sure sounds like Kubiak's going to use Dayne in short yardage.

To be "used" in short yardage and goaline and to be "effective" in short yardage and goaline are miles apart. He may be "used" early,but his history suggests his "ineffectiveness" will have him watching 3rd and 1 from the bench.

 

[Boris]

Is there really still a belief out there that Dayne is a bruiser? :

Here's Kubiak's quote:

"He gives us a real bruiser. He can pound the ball. He's got more size than our other two. Because we're familiar with him, he can step right into our offense on Tuesday and know exactly what we're doing. At this point that's a tremendous advantage for us."

We can laugh all we want, but it sure sounds like Kubiak's going to use Dayne in short yardage.

Sure, I agree it sounds like he's going to try. But he's not the first and it has never been successful. Dayne is not a power back, despite his size.

 

[Gopher State]

Is there really still a belief out there that Dayne is a bruiser? :

Here's Kubiak's quote:

"He gives us a real bruiser. He can pound the ball. He's got more size than our other two. Because we're familiar with him, he can step right into our offense on Tuesday and know exactly what we're doing. At this point that's a tremendous advantage for us."

We can laugh all we want, but it sure sounds like Kubiak's going to use Dayne in short yardage.

When Dayne gets stuffed three times in a roll on the goal line he be sent back to the bench for the season

 

[Alias]

the only way Dayne becomes the goalline back is if the texans put a krispy kreme in the endzone each time he sees the field.

 

[gbill2004]

the only way Dayne becomes the goalline back is if the texans put a krispy kreme in the endzone each time he sees the field.

 

[gman8343]

Is there really still a belief out there that Dayne is a bruiser? :

Here's Kubiak's quote:

"He gives us a real bruiser. He can pound the ball. He's got more size than our other two. Because we're familiar with him, he can step right into our offense on Tuesday and know exactly what we're doing. At this point that's a tremendous advantage for us."

We can laugh all we want, but it sure sounds like Kubiak's going to use Dayne in short yardage.

it sure looks like Kubiak is vying for the first pick in the '07 draft.

 

[BassNBrew]

Just sounds like a if you ask me.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Just sounds like a if you ask me.

 

[taz]

Is there really still a belief out there that Dayne is a bruiser? :

Here's Kubiak's quote:

"He gives us a real bruiser. He can pound the ball. He's got more size than our other two. Because we're familiar with him, he can step right into our offense on Tuesday and know exactly what we're doing. At this point that's a tremendous advantage for us."

We can laugh all we want, but it sure sounds like Kubiak's going to use Dayne in short yardage.

it sure looks like Kubiak is vying for the first pick in the '07 draft.

I agree, Dayne's been awful in short-yardage. And nobody's saying Dayne's going to be starting by Week 4. But it's obvious Kubiak wanted a bigger back behind Lundy/Morency, and apparently Antowain Smith wasn't the answer.Dayne=depth on a young team that's not going anywhere this year. What's the big deal?

 

[a_rackowski]

Dude - I tried this already - unfortunatly - people around here are a little bit stubborn when it comes to Texans RBs.

Thats why its hard to win fantasy championships. Stubbornness Kills. The Abillity to have forsight and use it wins fantasy titles.

Ron Dayne averaged 5.1 YPC last year in this exact system. Thats a fact.

Dayne played for Kubiak last season. Thats a fact.

Dayne can step right in and know the offense. Thats a fact.

The 2 backs in front of Dayne have a combined 46 carries in this league. Thats a fact.

The 2 backs in front of Dayne have a combined 13 games NFL experience. Thats a fact.

 

[3C's]

Dayne has been cut by 2 NFL teams. That's a fact.

 

[taz]

Dude - I tried this already - unfortunatly - people around here are a little bit stubborn when it comes to Texans RBs. Thats why its hard to win fantasy championships. Stubbornness Kills. The Abillity to have forsight and use it wins fantasy titles. Ron Dayne averaged 5.1 YPC last year in this exact system. Thats a fact. Dayne played for Kubiak last season. Thats a fact. Dayne can step right in and know the offense. Thats a fact. The 2 backs in front of Dayne have a combined 46 carries in this league. Thats a fact. The 2 backs in front of Dayne have a combined 13 games NFL experience. Thats a fact.

I'm not even talking fantasy football, but REAL football. I don't get this idea that the Texans picking up Dayne is such a joke. He's depth on a young team, who knows the system. If Lundy/Morency fulfill their potential, Dayne may only see a couple of token 3rd-and-1's a game.

 

[SteelerMurf]

Dayne is an ineffective runner...between the 20s or in the red zone.

Dayne's 5.1 yards per carry average was only over 53 carries and included a 55 yarder. Without that one single run, Dayne averages 4.1 ypc

Every year Dayne is gonna steal goalline carries from another back....result is

FACT => an average of 2.8 TDs per year and only 1 under Kubiak's offense last season.

 

[nordstrom24]

Is there really still a belief out there that Dayne is a bruiser? :

Here's Kubiak's quote:

"He gives us a real bruiser. He can pound the ball. He's got more size than our other two. Because we're familiar with him, he can step right into our offense on Tuesday and know exactly what we're doing. At this point that's a tremendous advantage for us."

We can laugh all we want, but it sure sounds like Kubiak's going to use Dayne in short yardage.

it sure looks like Kubiak is vying for the first pick in the '07 draft.

Brady Quinn? :(

 

[pghrob]

Is there really still a belief out there that Dayne is a bruiser? :

Here's Kubiak's quote:

"He gives us a real bruiser. He can pound the ball. He's got more size than our other two. Because we're familiar with him, he can step right into our offense on Tuesday and know exactly what we're doing. At this point that's a tremendous advantage for us."

We can laugh all we want, but it sure sounds like Kubiak's going to use Dayne in short yardage.

it sure looks like Kubiak is vying for the first pick in the '07 draft.

I agree, Dayne's been awful in short-yardage. And nobody's saying Dayne's going to be starting by Week 4. But it's obvious Kubiak wanted a bigger back behind Lundy/Morency, and apparently Antowain Smith wasn't the answer.Dayne=depth on a young team that's not going anywhere this year. What's the big deal?

Someone tell Kubiak that Basically Ron Dayne = Antowain Smith - 6 years. That is still Bupkus.

 

[a_rackowski]

Thomas Jones was once a bust.

Larry Johnson was once a major Bust.

Lamont Jordan didnt do squat his first few years.

Look, I am not saying Ron Dayne is the next Larry Johnson, but I am saying that owners need to pay attention to this signing.

It is very unlikely that Ron Dayne was brought in to play 3rd string.

 

[crowe1130]

I think Houston-area all-you-can-eat buffets have more to worry about than any Texan RBs.

 

[Gopher State]

Dude - I tried this already - unfortunatly - people around here are a little bit stubborn when it comes to Texans RBs. Thats why its hard to win fantasy championships. Stubbornness Kills. The Abillity to have forsight and use it wins fantasy titles. Ron Dayne averaged 5.1 YPC last year in this exact system. Thats a fact. Dayne played for Kubiak last season. Thats a fact. Dayne can step right in and know the offense. Thats a fact. The 2 backs in front of Dayne have a combined 46 carries in this league. Thats a fact. The 2 backs in front of Dayne have a combined 13 games NFL experience. Thats a fact.

Here's some more factsayne averaged 2.4 YPC this preseason with Denver. Thats a fact.He couldn't beat out Cobbs for 3rd string RB with Denver. Thats a fact.Denver has a better o-line then Houston. I think thats a fact.Dayne could not beat out an undrafted rookie named Mike Bell, Mr. Bell has 0 NFL experience.(Lundy was drafted) Thats a fact. You can't look at what Dayne has done in the past fact or not. In the NFL it's what have you done today, I don't see anything that Mr. Dayne has done this year.

 

[shadyridr]

Is there really still a belief out there that Dayne is a bruiser? :

Here's Kubiak's quote:

"He gives us a real bruiser. He can pound the ball. He's got more size than our other two. Because we're familiar with him, he can step right into our offense on Tuesday and know exactly what we're doing. At this point that's a tremendous advantage for us."

We can laugh all we want, but it sure sounds like Kubiak's going to use Dayne in short yardage.

it sure looks like Kubiak is vying for the first pick in the '07 draft.

They shouldve done that last year so they wouldnt have these problems at RB.

 

[Bri]

good luck to him. he hasn't ever proven he's been much good at short yardage/goal line duties.

very true, this frustrated Coughlin and Fassel "to no end"

 

[massraider]

Basically, whatever you were expecting from Lundy/Morency, I'd be shocked to see it change with this guy in town.

 

[3C's]

It is very unlikely that Ron Dayne was brought in to play 3rd string.

fixed

 

[AngryGorilla]

Denver Homer: talk radio in camp was talking about how Dayne couldn't pick up his feet. How he's never been a good short yardage/GL guy. How many years in a row did Tiki take away from Dayne? Time to give up on Dayne, he's never proven to be a go to guy, he's an RB with experience. The Texans cut Antowain Smith and signed Dayne....is this news? Does this affect anyone's fantasy squad?

on the other hand, how does this affect Reggie Bush's ADP?

 

[a_rackowski]

Why not just keep a cheaper alternative then?

 

[massraider]

Why not just keep a cheaper alternative then?

For the reasons you stated above. He knows the system, and the learning curve gets a lot shorter.

 

[Slinger]

Ron Dayne will not score more than 1 for the entire year. This is a fact. Accept it.

 

[Otis]

Chubby does not equal "bruiser."

 

[cr8f]

Ron Dayne has less power than Tatum Bell. Why do people keep making the same mistake.

Unless of course there are doughnuts in the endzone.

 

[3C's]

Why not just keep a cheaper alternative then?

For the reasons you stated above. He knows the system, and the learning curve gets a lot shorter.

I haven't seen terms of his contract, but I wouldn't think he's that expensive. Might even be league minimum.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I think a looot of people were just burned by Ron Dayne this pre-season. I've never seen anything like this - a head coach signs a veteran when he has two extremely inexperienced players at the top of the depth chart because of a major injury to the starter, comes out and calls Dayne a "real brusier" and SAYS that dayne will be used in short-yardage and goal line carries, and everyone just says "Dayne is not a bruiser", "Dayne sucks", etc.

Do you people believe that Kubiak signed him as a ploy to motivate Wali Lundy?

 

[nightshift]

The Denver Post reports ex-Broncos RB Ron Dayne drew interest from the Texans, Jaguars, and Dolphins upon his release. He signed with the Texans, where former Broncos OC Gary Kubiak is now the head coach.

An interesting tidbit. Jags in the RB market? Looks like they are looking for some vet depth.

 

[AngryGorilla]

I think a looot of people were just burned by Ron Dayne this pre-season. I've never seen anything like this - a head coach signs a veteran when he has two extremely inexperienced players at the top of the depth chart because of a major injury to the starter, comes out and calls Dayne a "real brusier" and SAYS that dayne will be used in short-yardage and goal line carries, and everyone just says "Dayne is not a bruiser", "Dayne sucks", etc.Do you people believe that Kubiak signed him as a ploy to motivate Wali Lundy?

I think you're on to something. I've watched every Broncs game since they've had Dayne, he is not a bruiser....Nice talk, guys, but he's just not.....even with doughnuts, or twinkies around....he's a nice 3rd stringer, a real nice back up to the back up, an excellent option.....when you're desparate. Just my opinion, I can have that if I would like

 

[Interseptopus]

I think a looot of people were just burned by Ron Dayne this pre-season. I've never seen anything like this - a head coach signs a veteran when he has two extremely inexperienced players at the top of the depth chart because of a major injury to the starter, comes out and calls Dayne a "real brusier" and SAYS that dayne will be used in short-yardage and goal line carries, and everyone just says "Dayne is not a bruiser", "Dayne sucks", etc.Do you people believe that Kubiak signed him as a ploy to motivate Wali Lundy?

a ploy to motivate Wali Lundy? Oh boy here we go... first Tatum Bell now Lundy.He signed Dayne because1- he's familiar with the style offense2- Kubiak coached him last season3- yes, he is a DIFFERENT style RB than his other two. Why sign 3 of the same type of back when it can be valuable to bring in a different style here and thereNo, Dayne is not a brusier and yes he does suck. Look at his past. He couldn't cut it in NY. They drafted him with the intentions of using him as a power back- Thunder and Lightning. He couldn't convert 3rd and short and he was even worse on the goal line. We're talking about a RB who spent the 2004 season off the active roster. I think the rest of us have every right to say that he sucks, look at his past. He's done nothing in his entire career to make anyone think otherwise. Any coach can talk up any player, but that doesn't mean he's good. Dayne has one bright sppot in his shotty career, his overtime winning rush for the Broncos. That's it.

 

[PatsWillWin]

So everyone just thinks they know better than Kubiak?

"He gives us a real bruiser," Kubiak said. "He can pound the ball."

 

[massraider]

So everyone just thinks they know better than Kubiak?

"He gives us a real bruiser," Kubiak said. "He can pound the ball."

No, I think the Giants and the Broncos know better than the Texans.

 

[AngryGorilla]

So everyone just thinks they know better than Kubiak?

"He gives us a real bruiser," Kubiak said. "He can pound the ball."

Not saying I know better than Kubs, just saying I saw him bruise the backs of the O-Line for the Broncs the last couple years. And sure he can pound the ball, at 3 or so yards per carry.

 

[Slinger]

So everyone just thinks they know better than Kubiak?

"He gives us a real bruiser," Kubiak said. "He can pound the ball."

He knows tons more than me. With that said, Ron Dayne will not be a factor this season or ever. This is what they call "coach speak". Just because a coach says something, doesn't mean it's going to happen. Take what coaches say with a grain of salt. Mike Shanahan praised Dayne left and right...and ended up cutting him.Ron Dayne is useless to have on your FF roster, regardless of how big your league is. This is a fact. Accept it.

 

[Otis]

So everyone just thinks they know better than Kubiak?

"He gives us a real bruiser," Kubiak said. "He can pound the ball."

What would you expect him to say to the press?"Well, he's sort of chubby and slow, but we are thin at RB and needed a cheap body."