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Ronnie Brown Ankle Injury (1 Viewer)
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hoopvillian
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Not really. Without Brown I think Ricky is totally ineffective.
Gopher State
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Dolphins | Brown injured Week 10
KFFL
Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:11:33 -0800
Omar Kelly, of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, reports Miami Dolphins RB Ronnie Brown (ankle) suffered what appeared to a serious right ankle injury in Week 10. He was helped off the field by teammates and was examined by team trainers before being taken to the locker room.
Not looking good
KFFL
Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:11:33 -0800
Omar Kelly, of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, reports Miami Dolphins RB Ronnie Brown (ankle) suffered what appeared to a serious right ankle injury in Week 10. He was helped off the field by teammates and was examined by team trainers before being taken to the locker room.
Not looking good
I don't know about that. He will be getting all of the carries for next week at least. Miami is a solid team, they have guys to step in...the offense will function. I am not predicting greatness, but for people who are stuck starting Ricky every week, this is a good thing.
It's not like the Simms situation. oh, Lord!
It's not like the Simms situation. oh, Lord!
If an ankle injury is characterized as serious by the media, and the player is a skill player, my guess is that you are talking at least 4 weeks.
He was able to put pressure on it, FWIW.
Dreaded high ankle sprain?
Art_VanDalay
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Latest news guys on Brown is that he was not wearing a protective boot and was on crutches leaving the stadium. He had xrays and was quoted as saying he doesn't think it is too bad. Per Roto World,
Brown left the stadium on crutches after injuring his right ankle in Sunday's two-point win over Tampa Bay. Analysis: "I don't think it's too bad," Brown said, optimistically. "We took X-rays. We'll wait to see what happens." Brown also called his injury a "rolled" ankle, but the fact that he couldn't reenter doesn't bode well. He's very questionable for Week 10 at Carolina. Ricky Williams would start if Brown can't.
I am less concerned about this Thursday night game and just hope he is not out for an extended period as a Brown Owner.
Brown left the stadium on crutches after injuring his right ankle in Sunday's two-point win over Tampa Bay. Analysis: "I don't think it's too bad," Brown said, optimistically. "We took X-rays. We'll wait to see what happens." Brown also called his injury a "rolled" ankle, but the fact that he couldn't reenter doesn't bode well. He's very questionable for Week 10 at Carolina. Ricky Williams would start if Brown can't.
I am less concerned about this Thursday night game and just hope he is not out for an extended period as a Brown Owner.
He hasn't had a history of injuries that any other RB hasn't had outside of the ACL. Actually, taking into account the ACL, I would say he is actually ahead of normal RBs. He only missed 9 games from the ACL and missed no time the next year and still had 1170 total yards and 10TDs. Most RBs that have bad knee injuries miss an entire year and aren't that effective the first year back.ETA: Please let it be a minor ankle issue. Someone said above that it was a bad sign he couldn't go back in and IMHO I don't think that means anything other than the Dolphins have RW and Pat White so there would be no need to even try and risk further injury.
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FFdork
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The quote from Brown is encouraging, but I'm going to be pretty surprised if he's available in week 11 given the short week.
gregjcross
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He said the same type of thing when he tore his ACL in 2007. I saw him limp off, it looked pretty bad but one never knows, he could be back in two weeks.Latest news guys on Brown is that he was not wearing a protective boot and was on crutches leaving the stadium. He had xrays and was quoted as saying he doesn't think it is too bad. Per Roto World,Brown left the stadium on crutches after injuring his right ankle in Sunday's two-point win over Tampa Bay. Analysis: "I don't think it's too bad," Brown said, optimistically. "We took X-rays. We'll wait to see what happens." Brown also called his injury a "rolled" ankle, but the fact that he couldn't reenter doesn't bode well. He's very questionable for Week 10 at Carolina. Ricky Williams would start if Brown can't.I am less concerned about this Thursday night game and just hope he is not out for an extended period as a Brown Owner.
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Instinctive
Footballguy
There's a thread regarding Brown, Turner, Benson, and Jones, so if you could direct all your attention there everybody can access it in one place. Thanks!
Pushing people to your thread?
Instinctive
Footballguy
Less to my thread and more because it is indeed easier for everybody to find if all the info is in one place...why do you think there's one inactive thread each week and not one for each player?
Why would I want to sort through a thread with info about multiple players who I probably don't need only to find snippets for the one player I do need? Now having multiple threads on Ronnie Brown would be counter productive but forcing all info into one injury thread is also counter productive and has a tendency to get bloated.
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djmich
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Art_VanDalay
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Agreed. There is a point to having a thread for one player since I may not care, from a FF perspective, about the other guys and their numerous speculative comments. I am good right here thanks though! As for Brown, I wouldn't say this is the same exact way it was handled as his ACL injury. By comparison, Turner did the same type of injury as Brown today and he left the lockerroom also on crutches but in a protective boot. Not sure if that matters and we have no choice but to wait probably until Tuesday to see if there is any info. In the meantime all we have is speculation and inuendo. An important factor will be how much swelling he has tomorrow when he gets up. I personally think if there is anyway for Ronnie to play in a nationally televised game, in a contract year, which this is, he will get on the field somehow. Regardless, I am starting to have hope that this isn't like a 4-6 week thing which would kill his value for the remainder of this year. Crossing fingers!
Brock Middlebrook
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I just want him back by week 14
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morris4903
Footballguy
Bitter much?
Banger
Footballguy
not at all. It's why I avoid him every year.
morris4903
Footballguy
he's been injured every year?
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
If, by "every year", you mean "only once in his career so far".
just like you avoid Andre Johnson every year and now Calvin Johnson in the coming years?
RenegadeGM
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Um, actually there is a thread for each player Sunday mornings, in addition to the inactive thread...
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hoopvillian
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You and the guy who rolled eyes at me a few posts above think Ricky Williams can run the wildcat? And if not, think that Henne can lead the team and put up stats in a conventional formation?I think with Ricky getting the full load his stats go down. The team loses a dimension without Ronnie.Instead of eye rolling tell me why I'm wrong.BRONG said:hoopvillian said:
Kitrick Taylor
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Obviously this is not good for us Ronnie Brown owners. If there is any bright spot at all, Ricky may be getting a heavy workload over the next 2-3 weeks. Not sure if he can sustain that. It could actually lead to more Ronnie Brown weeks 14-16. (hopefully!)
strong
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this is why i think you're wrong:ricky has been averaging 5.3 yards per carry this year, due in some part to the threat of ronnie on the field, but also due to how hard/well he's been running and the offensive line/system. to blindly say that his overall production will decline without ronnie and with more touches is counter-intuitive. it's based on the idea that the dolphins offense will suffer so badly that extra touches won't matter--i don't buy that. miami's offense as a whole will likely be less effective--true, to date it's been based largely on the threat of ronnie--which means fewer red zone opportunities for the team. but as long as ronnie is out, ricky will probably get most of the red zone touchdowns. they do play a couple week rush defenses the next couple weeks, too, so that factor is also a plus for ricky goin solo. the panthers and bills are good matchups for a rb. also, it's not as if they don't have anyone to run the wildcat--they drafted pat white for this reason--he'll probably defer a little more to ricky than ronnie did. i doubt the wildcat will be as effective, but they will be able to pass out of it a little bit more and ricky should still get some nice lanes.case in point: today's game. with ronnie out, ricky racked up the yards against a bad defense. who knows if he can repeat this on short rest against the panthers defense (he is kinda old), but it's not like he's facing a top notch run defense on thursday. let's say ricky gets half of ronnie's touches--that would bring him up from 11.7 carries per game to about 19 and maybe add a reception to bring it up to 3 per game. ricky would have to drop down to 3.2 ypc to gain fewer yards than he currently is. that's a large drop, and i don't think it'll be that drastic. i think as long as ronnie's out, ricky owners should be very happy. the patriots represent the only team i think that can shut him and the dolphins completely down without ronnie. the other teams might do pretty well, but they've all had problems stopping the run this year and the dolphins have a very good running system. and that's why...You and the guy who rolled eyes at me a few posts above think Ricky Williams can run the wildcat? And if not, think that Henne can lead the team and put up stats in a conventional formation?I think with Ricky getting the full load his stats go down. The team loses a dimension without Ronnie.Instead of eye rolling tell me why I'm wrong.BRONG said:hoopvillian said:Yeah, sure he is.
on the good news...he wtill miss curfew like mswArt_VanDalay said:Latest news guys on Brown is that he was not wearing a protective boot and was on crutches leaving the stadium. He had xrays and was quoted as saying he doesn't think it is too bad. Per Roto World,Brown left the stadium on crutches after injuring his right ankle in Sunday's two-point win over Tampa Bay. Analysis: "I don't think it's too bad," Brown said, optimistically. "We took X-rays. We'll wait to see what happens." Brown also called his injury a "rolled" ankle, but the fact that he couldn't reenter doesn't bode well. He's very questionable for Week 10 at Carolina. Ricky Williams would start if Brown can't.I am less concerned about this Thursday night game and just hope he is not out for an extended period as a Brown Owner.
No problems in that dept...whats one more kidBuckeyeArt
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He had 9 carries for 53 yards in one quarter of play after Ronnie left the game
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Sammy Traveller
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anyone think LJ will sign with the Dolphins if Ronnie's injury is serious?
I wouldn't put it past Parcells.
I wouldn't put it past Parcells.
Well, I'll admit I'm only guessing here but with a Thursday game I would "guess" he'll be out this week for sure and hopefully back the following week. The fact that people are saying it was a "rolled" ankle and nothing is broken is obviously a small consolation.As for Rickey Williams, short term gold obviously as I think the Dolphins have no choice but to alter the game plan some. Williams is a great back but the Wildcat works so effectively when BOTH backs are on the field and the mere presence and skill set of Ronnie Brown. I'm sure they'll still do plenty of wildcat, but the extent and variety to it will certainly be affected.
I'd be curious to know how much Wildcat was utilized after Ronnie went down. It was, after all, what TB was gameplanning against.He had 9 carries for 53 yards in one quarter of play after Ronnie left the gameYou and the guy who rolled eyes at me a few posts above think Ricky Williams can run the wildcat? And if not, think that Henne can lead the team and put up stats in a conventional formation?I think with Ricky getting the full load his stats go down. The team loses a dimension without Ronnie.Instead of eye rolling tell me why I'm wrong.BRONG said:hoopvillian said:Yeah, sure he is.
Otis
Footballguy
Lots of folks in here downplaying Ricky's talent and ability. While he may be "old" in RB years, remember he's had a few years off. He doesn't have the wear of a full time, decade-long starter. I also think that talent and ability wise, at the peaks of their careers, Ricky is a far better runner than Brown. It's not a knock on Brown -- I'm a big fan -- but just a tribute to Ricky's talent. And even at the ripe old age of 32, Ricky has looked like a dynamo out there running the ball this year.
Ultimately with Ricky getting the rock full time behind a solid offensive line in a good offense, I think he will have tremendous success. Will be interesting to see how it pans out.
Ultimately with Ricky getting the rock full time behind a solid offensive line in a good offense, I think he will have tremendous success. Will be interesting to see how it pans out.
I own Brown and Williams. I'm wondering how they will run the wildcat without Brown? In a pro set offense, the Dolphins are below average. So without the wildcat, there will be 8 in the box and Williams probably loses value. I mean, he's already the 13th ranked RB in my league, but I think so much of that comes because teams focus on stopping Brown. With 8 in the box, Williams will see very little running room.
Will they have Pat White replace Brown in the formations, and keep running the same plays? If so, then Williams value could remain as is.
Will they have Pat White replace Brown in the formations, and keep running the same plays? If so, then Williams value could remain as is.
TommyGilmore
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They've already been running the wildcat with several different people (Brown, White, and Williams) as the QB. They'll figure something out, but I would expect to see more of White.
The Williams owners who had him stashed on the bench or as a flex player just struck gold short term for a while.Williams doesn't get much love but between the years he was off and the limited use the last couple years his legs are as "fresh" as any RB in the league right now. If they are willing to feed him the rock 20+ times per game he's ready.
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