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Ronnie Brown the best offensive player this year? (1 Viewer)

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Ben Volin, of the Palm Beach Post, reports New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said Miami Dolphins RB Ronnie Brown is the best offensive player he has seen this year. "I think he's been outstanding. He's done a good job of in the running game of being patient. … He runs hard, he's hard to tackle, he's extremely durable, been a good outlet receiver, broken a lot of tackles, good job of converting a lot of third downs. … He's physical, he's a strong player, he's tough to handle. I haven't seen anybody play any better than him this year. To me, he's the best player we've seen on the offensive side of the ball," Belichick said.

 
Ben Volin, of the Palm Beach Post, reports New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said Miami Dolphins RB Ronnie Brown is the best offensive player he has seen this year. "I think he's been outstanding. He's done a good job of in the running game of being patient. … He runs hard, he's hard to tackle, he's extremely durable, been a good outlet receiver, broken a lot of tackles, good job of converting a lot of third downs. … He's physical, he's a strong player, he's tough to handle. I haven't seen anybody play any better than him this year. To me, he's the best player we've seen on the offensive side of the ball," Belichick said.
There is no doubt about it. He has been unreal. I mean his two 4th and 1 conversions last week were his greatest runs. He had to break tackles on both as the line did not block anyone and he did that to give his team a shot. They should be better with an RB like that, but their defense is the worst. Ronnie does do it all, and Belichick is right on the money. That guy is doing the most with nothing than any player that comes to mind in a while.
 
From Rotoworld: Belichick has long been a fan of Brown's versatility, once calling him the best back to enter the league since LaDainian Tomlinson.

 
From Rotoworld: Belichick has long been a fan of Brown's versatility, once calling him the best back to enter the league since LaDainian Tomlinson.
I am now a Brown believer. However up until 4 weeks ago he was an average NFL back. And Adrian Peterson is without question the best back to enter the league since LT2.
 
From Rotoworld: Belichick has long been a fan of Brown's versatility, once calling him the best back to enter the league since LaDainian Tomlinson.
I am now a Brown believer. However up until 4 weeks ago he was an average NFL back. And Adrian Peterson is without question the best back to enter the league since LT2.
now there is a limb to go out on!
LOL....well I am a Dolphins fan big time and lost hope that our #2 overall supposed Franchise back would ever come around. Low and behold he is running very hard and very nasty. And that's what a lot of us were waiting for.
 
They finally start giving Ronnie the ball and look what happens . . .

The Ronnie Brown haters/Cadillac supporters disappear.

Weird.

 
They finally start giving Ronnie the ball and look what happens . . .The Ronnie Brown haters/Cadillac supporters disappear.Weird.
I'm a Ronnie owner, but be for real on the Cadillac supporters. You hear a guy may be done for good, you lose a little faith.
 
From Rotoworld: Belichick has long been a fan of Brown's versatility, once calling him the best back to enter the league since LaDainian Tomlinson.
agreed. I've read lots down here about BB's endorsement of Brown being an extremely high level player. BB is a fan.
 
Ben Volin, of the Palm Beach Post, reports New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said Miami Dolphins RB Ronnie Brown is the best offensive player he has seen this year. "I think he's been outstanding. He's done a good job of in the running game of being patient. … He runs hard, he's hard to tackle, he's extremely durable, been a good outlet receiver, broken a lot of tackles, good job of converting a lot of third downs. … He's physical, he's a strong player, he's tough to handle. I haven't seen anybody play any better than him this year. To me, he's the best player we've seen on the offensive side of the ball," Belichick said.
bell tatum motivate to ploy a just *had to do it*

:lmao:

 
jurb26 said:
Sabertooth said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
BB reminds me of Lou Holtz talking up how great a Northwestern team was that ND was about to slaughter.

Thanks Bill
:lmao: This is the epitome of coach speak.
So there is at least 2 guys who have not seen Brown play this year....Either way, BB is still incorrect. The best offensive player in the NFL is on his team, Brady. Oh and the second best as well, Moss.
Wait, you really believe that he meant that? At least there is one person here that has never heard a BB interview before.
 
jurb26 said:
Sabertooth said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
BB reminds me of Lou Holtz talking up how great a Northwestern team was that ND was about to slaughter.

Thanks Bill
:lmao: This is the epitome of coach speak.
So there is at least 2 guys who have not seen Brown play this year....Either way, BB is still incorrect. The best offensive player in the NFL is on his team, Brady. Oh and the second best as well, Moss.
I believe and respect BB's opinion much more than the Talking Heads on here who just a few weeks ago said that RB was horrible and that Chatman deserved to share time with him. Wait, you really believe that he meant that? At least there is one person here that has never heard a BB interview before.
 
jurb26 said:
Sabertooth said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
BB reminds me of Lou Holtz talking up how great a Northwestern team was that ND was about to slaughter.

Thanks Bill
:goodposting: This is the epitome of coach speak.
So there is at least 2 guys who have not seen Brown play this year....Either way, BB is still incorrect. The best offensive player in the NFL is on his team, Brady. Oh and the second best as well, Moss.
Wait, you really believe that he meant that? At least there is one person here that has never heard a BB interview before.
I believe and respect BB's opinion much more than the Talking Heads on here who just a few weeks ago said that RB was horrible and that Chatman deserved to share time with him.
BB talks up the opponent like they(Pats) are the underdog. This is not new. He called Roy Williams one of the best safeties in the league last week in an radio interview. Yeah, that Roy Williams.
 
jurb26 said:
Sabertooth said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
BB reminds me of Lou Holtz talking up how great a Northwestern team was that ND was about to slaughter.

Thanks Bill
:goodposting: This is the epitome of coach speak.
So there is at least 2 guys who have not seen Brown play this year....Either way, BB is still incorrect. The best offensive player in the NFL is on his team, Brady. Oh and the second best as well, Moss.
Wait, you really believe that he meant that? At least there is one person here that has never heard a BB interview before.
I believe and respect BB's opinion much more than the Talking Heads on here who just a few weeks ago said that RB was horrible and that Chatman deserved to share time with him.
BB talks up the opponent like they(Pats) are the underdog. This is not new. He called Roy Williams one of the best safeties in the league last week in an radio interview. Yeah, that Roy Williams.
Of course Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing this year on arguably the worst team with one of the worst OL's. Yeah, that Ronnie Brown. It puts BB's comment in a different perspective as he isn't just talking up an average player.
 
jurb26 said:
Sabertooth said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
BB reminds me of Lou Holtz talking up how great a Northwestern team was that ND was about to slaughter.

Thanks Bill
:goodposting: This is the epitome of coach speak.
So there is at least 2 guys who have not seen Brown play this year....Either way, BB is still incorrect. The best offensive player in the NFL is on his team, Brady. Oh and the second best as well, Moss.
Wait, you really believe that he meant that? At least there is one person here that has never heard a BB interview before.
I believe and respect BB's opinion much more than the Talking Heads on here who just a few weeks ago said that RB was horrible and that Chatman deserved to share time with him.
BB talks up the opponent like they(Pats) are the underdog. This is not new. He called Roy Williams one of the best safeties in the league last week in an radio interview. Yeah, that Roy Williams.
Of course Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing this year on arguably the worst team with one of the worst OL's. Yeah, that Ronnie Brown. It puts BB's comment in a different perspective as he isn't just talking up an average player.
Brown isn't leading the league in rushing. HTH
 
jurb26 said:
Sabertooth said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
BB reminds me of Lou Holtz talking up how great a Northwestern team was that ND was about to slaughter.

Thanks Bill
:goodposting: This is the epitome of coach speak.
So there is at least 2 guys who have not seen Brown play this year....Either way, BB is still incorrect. The best offensive player in the NFL is on his team, Brady. Oh and the second best as well, Moss.
Wait, you really believe that he meant that? At least there is one person here that has never heard a BB interview before.
I believe and respect BB's opinion much more than the Talking Heads on here who just a few weeks ago said that RB was horrible and that Chatman deserved to share time with him.
BB talks up the opponent like they(Pats) are the underdog. This is not new. He called Roy Williams one of the best safeties in the league last week in an radio interview. Yeah, that Roy Williams.
Of course Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing this year on arguably the worst team with one of the worst OL's. Yeah, that Ronnie Brown. It puts BB's comment in a different perspective as he isn't just talking up an average player.
Brown isn't leading the league in rushing. HTH
he is the leading running back in fantasy in my league.
 
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jurb26 said:
Sabertooth said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
BB reminds me of Lou Holtz talking up how great a Northwestern team was that ND was about to slaughter.

Thanks Bill
:kicksrock: This is the epitome of coach speak.
So there is at least 2 guys who have not seen Brown play this year....Either way, BB is still incorrect. The best offensive player in the NFL is on his team, Brady. Oh and the second best as well, Moss.
Wait, you really believe that he meant that? At least there is one person here that has never heard a BB interview before.
I believe and respect BB's opinion much more than the Talking Heads on here who just a few weeks ago said that RB was horrible and that Chatman deserved to share time with him.
BB talks up the opponent like they(Pats) are the underdog. This is not new. He called Roy Williams one of the best safeties in the league last week in an radio interview. Yeah, that Roy Williams.
Of course Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing this year on arguably the worst team with one of the worst OL's. Yeah, that Ronnie Brown. It puts BB's comment in a different perspective as he isn't just talking up an average player.
Brown isn't leading the league in rushing. HTH
he is the leading running back in fantasy in my league.
Ok, that's not what you were talking about in your post/thread. Not bad spin though. :thumbup:
 
jurb26 said:
Sabertooth said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
BB reminds me of Lou Holtz talking up how great a Northwestern team was that ND was about to slaughter.

Thanks Bill
:kicksrock: This is the epitome of coach speak.
So there is at least 2 guys who have not seen Brown play this year....Either way, BB is still incorrect. The best offensive player in the NFL is on his team, Brady. Oh and the second best as well, Moss.
Wait, you really believe that he meant that? At least there is one person here that has never heard a BB interview before.
I believe and respect BB's opinion much more than the Talking Heads on here who just a few weeks ago said that RB was horrible and that Chatman deserved to share time with him.
BB talks up the opponent like they(Pats) are the underdog. This is not new. He called Roy Williams one of the best safeties in the league last week in an radio interview. Yeah, that Roy Williams.
Of course Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing this year on arguably the worst team with one of the worst OL's. Yeah, that Ronnie Brown. It puts BB's comment in a different perspective as he isn't just talking up an average player.
Brown isn't leading the league in rushing. HTH
he is the leading running back in fantasy in my league.
Ok, that's not what you were talking about in your post/thread. Not bad spin though. :thumbup:
Spin? I quote BB and then someone tries to compare RB to Roy Williams and I point out that RB is the leading Rb, which he is in fantasy, and you call it spin? Please explain? Is he not the leading RB? Did BB not say what I quote him as saying? I am really intrigued by what you are implying.
 
Spin? I quote BB and then someone tries to compare RB to Roy Williams and I point out that RB is the leading Rb, which he is in fantasy, and you call it spin? Please explain? Is he not the leading RB? Did BB not say what I quote him as saying? I am really intrigued by what you are implying.
This thread had nothing to about FF until you were wrong on a quote. Then you spun it as "oh, i meant #1 fantasy.". That is spin.
Is he not the leading RB? Did BB not say what I quote him as saying?
:kicksrock:Yes, i'm sure he meant Ronnie is the best RB in FF. He meant that and not in the NFL, as an actual real life NFL player. Come on.I'm not even saying BB didn't say that. I'm saying he hypes every opponent up that way.
 
Spin? I quote BB and then someone tries to compare RB to Roy Williams and I point out that RB is the leading Rb, which he is in fantasy, and you call it spin? Please explain? Is he not the leading RB? Did BB not say what I quote him as saying? I am really intrigued by what you are implying.
Yes, spin. First you say "Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing this year". Then someone corrects you and you write in big letters that "he is the leading running back in fantasy in my league". I can only reckon that the big letters are being used to reiterate or clarify how you were not incorrect in what you said. And then you say the bolded part, which is also incorrect, that's not what you said. You said Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing".When you said he was the leading rusher in the league you were 100% incorrect. No need to get all uppity letters when you are proven stone cold wrong. If you meant to say he's leading your league in FF points, say that. Because he isn't even leading your league in rushing. Don't say he is leading the league in rushing and then take umbrage when someone corrects you. Say what you mean. When you say something wrong and then try to pass off something else as what you said, that is called spin.

Verdict: Guilty

 
Spin? I quote BB and then someone tries to compare RB to Roy Williams and I point out that RB is the leading Rb, which he is in fantasy, and you call it spin? Please explain? Is he not the leading RB? Did BB not say what I quote him as saying? I am really intrigued by what you are implying.
Yes, spin. First you say "Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing this year". Then someone corrects you and you write in big letters that "he is the leading running back in fantasy in my league". I can only reckon that the big letters are being used to reiterate or clarify how you were not incorrect in what you said. And then you say the bolded part, which is also incorrect, that's not what you said. You said Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing".When you said he was the leading rusher in the league you were 100% incorrect. No need to get all uppity letters when you are proven stone cold wrong. If you meant to say he's leading your league in FF points, say that. Because he isn't even leading your league in rushing. Don't say he is leading the league in rushing and then take umbrage when someone corrects you. Say what you mean. When you say something wrong and then try to pass off something else as what you said, that is called spin.

Verdict: Guilty
Since you are being a literalist and seem to like investigative journalism, how about studying these numbers friend. Spin these numbers if you like.Total Yards:

RB: 882

AP; 782

LT: 737

McGahee: 677

So let's be crystal clear so that you don't misunderstand what I am saying:

Ronnie Brown leads the league in total yardage. I take BB seriously when he says RB is the best offensive player and since he leads the league in total yardage on one of the worst teams it seems plausible that he is telling the truth.

 
... I take BB seriously when he says RB is the best offensive player and since he leads the league in total yardage on one of the worst teams it seems plausible that he is telling the truth.
You lost all credibility with that statement.
 
Spin? I quote BB and then someone tries to compare RB to Roy Williams and I point out that RB is the leading Rb, which he is in fantasy, and you call it spin? Please explain? Is he not the leading RB? Did BB not say what I quote him as saying? I am really intrigued by what you are implying.
Yes, spin. First you say "Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing this year". Then someone corrects you and you write in big letters that "he is the leading running back in fantasy in my league". I can only reckon that the big letters are being used to reiterate or clarify how you were not incorrect in what you said. And then you say the bolded part, which is also incorrect, that's not what you said. You said Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing".When you said he was the leading rusher in the league you were 100% incorrect. No need to get all uppity letters when you are proven stone cold wrong. If you meant to say he's leading your league in FF points, say that. Because he isn't even leading your league in rushing. Don't say he is leading the league in rushing and then take umbrage when someone corrects you. Say what you mean. When you say something wrong and then try to pass off something else as what you said, that is called spin.

Verdict: Guilty
Since you are being a literalist and seem to like investigative journalism, how about studying these numbers friend. Spin these numbers if you like.Total Yards:

RB: 882

AP; 782

LT: 737

McGahee: 677

So let's be crystal clear so that you don't misunderstand what I am saying:

Ronnie Brown leads the league in total yardage. I take BB seriously when he says RB is the best offensive player and since he leads the league in total yardage on one of the worst teams it seems plausible that he is telling the truth.
Nice font ... Last I checked. RB has 882 in total yards

So lllllllllllllllets be crystal clear. ADP had a bye week. So, we can go with

YDS/game

RB - 147

ADP - 156

or BYE adjust

RB - 882

ADP - 938!!!!

TOTAL YARDS per game

RB- 147

ADP- 206 !!!!

I'll give a nod to Ronnie in PPR... 34 vs 10, but sway back to ADP in scoring yardage bonuses....3 or 4 (pending system) long shot TDs

Nice rookie move, to non-bye adjust circa week 6, moreover avoid special teams in a NFL discussion (vs FF).

Alllllllllll the while... only playing about 60% of the time, due to coaches decision. Do you understand?

Just as there is hype on the Pats being unstoppable... it's just not as early to declare ADP the top RB 1/3 rookie year.... the Chicago defense ppl in Chicago.... yeah there's a ***** in that armour... but dude SPLIT TIME 50/50 vs Chicago, not 100% vs the Rams/Browns D.

 
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I see this as literal candor.

BB hasn't seen much in 6 games..... San Diego was in a coma then, FWIW.
Isn't candor literal by definition? Not sure what you mean by this. Also not sure what San Diego being in a "coma" has to do with anything. Hasn't Miami been in a "coma" for the past three years that Rb has had to try and run there?
 
No bye factored in, and now it's total yards. First it was leading rusher, then leading fantasy RB, now total yards. :2cents:

 
No bye factored in, and now it's total yards. First it was leading rusher, then leading fantasy RB, now total yards. :goodposting:
I didn't realize this was an algebra test. Frankly, it doesn't matter. You claimed that what BB said didn't meatter and he didn't mean it because he said the same thing about Roy Williams: and I quote you, "BB talks up the opponent like they(Pats) are the underdog. This is not new. He called Roy Williams one of the best safeties in the league last week in an radio interview. Yeah, that Roy Williams. "My point in saying Brown was the leading rusher, incorrectly as it turns out, was that clearly your analogy is false. There is no question that Brown is one of the best RBs, and so when BB says he is THE BEST, it is a credible statement. In fact, it is far more credible than when Cam was saying that Chatman was a good RB, when all the real world evidence indicated the contrary. In this case, all the real world evidence supports BB. BTW, if you could give a link to all the other times that BB has called an opposing player, not "one of the best" but THE BEST, I would appreciate it.
 
No bye factored in, and now it's total yards. First it was leading rusher, then leading fantasy RB, now total yards. :goodposting:
I didn't realize this was an algebra test. Frankly, it doesn't matter. You claimed that what BB said didn't meatter and he didn't mean it because he said the same thing about Roy Williams: and I quote you, "BB talks up the opponent like they(Pats) are the underdog. This is not new. He called Roy Williams one of the best safeties in the league last week in an radio interview. Yeah, that Roy Williams. "My point in saying Brown was the leading rusher, incorrectly as it turns out, was that clearly your analogy is false. There is no question that Brown is one of the best RBs, and so when BB says he is THE BEST, it is a credible statement. In fact, it is far more credible than when Cam was saying that Chatman was a good RB, when all the real world evidence indicated the contrary. In this case, all the real world evidence supports BB. BTW, if you could give a link to all the other times that BB has called an opposing player, not "one of the best" but THE BEST, I would appreciate it.
the critique was on best offensive player this year seen by BB.... turned best offensive player so far. i have no issue with BB saying the "best he's seen this year" is Ronnie Brown.but please keep in mind the graciousness of comments that opposing head coaches throw out. please see Mr Brown's random shots this week with Coughlin REACHING for a way to compliment/critique the Falcons offense.
 
Ben Volin, of the Palm Beach Post, reports New England Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said Miami Dolphins RB Ronnie Brown is the best offensive player he has seen this year. "I think he's been outstanding. He's done a good job of in the running game of being patient. … He runs hard, he's hard to tackle, he's extremely durable, been a good outlet receiver, broken a lot of tackles, good job of converting a lot of third downs. … He's physical, he's a strong player, he's tough to handle. I haven't seen anybody play any better than him this year. To me, he's the best player we've seen on the offensive side of the ball," Belichick said.
a LOT of people in here, BURIED Ronnie Brown in preseason, referring to him as an ALL-OUT BUST..wonder what they're thinking of him now? :rolleyes: This guy has been a good RB since turning pro, averaging over 4.3 yards per carry..and Cam has that offensive line working magic for him..Brown is a poor man's Tomlinson right now..
 
Spin? I quote BB and then someone tries to compare RB to Roy Williams and I point out that RB is the leading Rb, which he is in fantasy, and you call it spin? Please explain? Is he not the leading RB? Did BB not say what I quote him as saying? I am really intrigued by what you are implying.
Yes, spin. First you say "Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing this year". Then someone corrects you and you write in big letters that "he is the leading running back in fantasy in my league". I can only reckon that the big letters are being used to reiterate or clarify how you were not incorrect in what you said. And then you say the bolded part, which is also incorrect, that's not what you said. You said Ronnie Brown IS leading the league in rushing".When you said he was the leading rusher in the league you were 100% incorrect. No need to get all uppity letters when you are proven stone cold wrong. If you meant to say he's leading your league in FF points, say that. Because he isn't even leading your league in rushing. Don't say he is leading the league in rushing and then take umbrage when someone corrects you. Say what you mean. When you say something wrong and then try to pass off something else as what you said, that is called spin.

Verdict: Guilty
Since you are being a literalist and seem to like investigative journalism, how about studying these numbers friend. Spin these numbers if you like.Total Yards:

RB: 882

AP; 782

LT: 737

McGahee: 677

So let's be crystal clear so that you don't misunderstand what I am saying:

Ronnie Brown leads the league in total yardage. I take BB seriously when he says RB is the best offensive player and since he leads the league in total yardage on one of the worst teams it seems plausible that he is telling the truth.
I have understood everything you said, obviously you have not because you keep changing what you said you said. You made an incorrect statement and then tried to pass off something else as what you said. And now you are being a blowhard trying to bluster your way past the truth. I have never had a problem with numbers, that has been you I have not tried to spin anything, that was you. I never said anything about RB not leading the league n total yards, that was you implying I was saying that. All I did was point out the fact that you were wrong when you stated that Brown was the leading rusher in the league. THat may not have been what you meant, but that's what you said. And being a turd about it with big letters doesn't change the fact that you made an incorrect statemnt about Brown and are having a hissy fit trying to convince (and failing) everyone that you said something different than what you said. So wy don't you drop this vein of protecting yourself becuase it's in clear b/w that you were wrong. And if you stop trying to defend that position then you can concentrate on reading comprehension and actually see what others are saying so that you don't go off on some tangent in big letters trying to fight off things that people arent's acutally even saying. You look like a complete fool.
 
ronnie has played better than peterson in my opinion

the vikings have one of the best o-lines in the league

dolphins have one of the worst

to be honest, ronnie has had some of the more incredible performances i have seen from a RB

they are stacking 8 or 9 guys in the box, blowing up the line, and ronnie is still putting up big numbers, ridiculous.

 
ronnie has played better than peterson in my opinionthe vikings have one of the best o-lines in the leaguedolphins have one of the worstto be honest, ronnie has had some of the more incredible performances i have seen from a RBthey are stacking 8 or 9 guys in the box, blowing up the line, and ronnie is still putting up big numbers, ridiculous.
likewise, the Viking passing game has really kept defenses on their toes respecting the vertical game ;-)
 
Funny how Belicheck says this now, when Brown is lighting it up, not before when he was putting up mediocre numbers. If he had said it before, I would believe it, but now, it just looks like he is trying to make himself look a little too smart again.

 
Funny how Belicheck says this now, when Brown is lighting it up, not before when he was putting up mediocre numbers. If he had said it before, I would believe it, but now, it just looks like he is trying to make himself look a little too smart again.
Belichick says this kind of stuff about anyone his team is playing who is "hot." He always talks up his opponents before he crushes them.
 
By the way, what are the odds that Brown eclipses 1000/1000 rushing receiving? He'll do it on the ground, sure, but he's on pace for ~945 receiving yards.

 
Anybody thought BB's comment was a shot at LT? (implication RB >> LT)

That was just a thought that popped into my head after I read the quote, not that I necessarily believe it to be true.

 

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