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Ronnie Brown? (1 Viewer)
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Zaxxon
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure he was rated around RB15 by this site throughout most of the offseason. I would imagine that there are a fair amount of leagues where he's already an owner's RB2.
Ozymandias
Footballguy
I don't care what you say, I'm not starting him next week.
jurb26
Footballguy
When fully healthy, I already considered Brown a must start. He is immensely talented. Until now, I was under the impression that he was not fully recovered. Seeing some of the runs he made today (sharp cuts at full speed, stopping and starting, burst to the hole and initiating contact) I'd say its safe to say he is fully healthy.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
OMG you are such a SHARK!!!!1
millertyme1
Footballguy
Their alignment today reminded me of McFadden at Arkansas when their QB situation was less than stellar. I imagine they'll use this quite a bit going forward.
Great game planning by the Phins staff today.
Great game planning by the Phins staff today.
Brown had 17 carries to Williams 16. Williams had close to 100 yards also. As long as you think the Dolphins can hang 35+ points a game, then Brown is a star. Just kidding, Brown looked good, I'm bitter I played him today..l
gregjcross
Footballguy
He was what they thought he was. So crown his ###
Bermuda_Chub
Footballguy
tbbucs4eva
Footballguy
please dont start him next week!
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
No, he's still a matchup play...albeit, a much better matchup play than he was 8 hrs ago.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Everyone get a grip... it was against the PATRIOTS!
He won't get to beat up on aging, overmatched defenses every week.
He won't get to beat up on aging, overmatched defenses every week.
Depending on what you can get for him, I think that might be a big mistake. I know a lot of people want to dismiss what Brown did before he got hurt last year, but there is no doubt that Brown is a very talented back. I'm not saying that he's going to put up 5 TDs every week, but he has certainly shown that he has the ability to have some monster games. I really like his schedule for the remainder of the season, and especially during the playoffs. If you've got him, I'd hold onto him.
njxbean
Footballguy
It all depends who i can get. I would rather a guy who consistently gets points over brown who will likely be playing this split carries game with ricky all year. This might be the highest value i can get for him all year.
kingmalaki
Footballguy
If the Chiefs offense keeps sucking then he may start getting the nod over LJ for me. Of course I say this as LJ finally has a solid game.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
I think it's safe to say this is absolutely a one week thing. You don't see too many backs hang 5 TDs on opponents week in/week out.As for if he is an every-week starter? I would say that unless the Fins were up against a D with some elite corners, and that can afford to stack the box, I'd say that Brown is an every week starter, even moreso if you are in a PPR.
Brown was dominant last year when he was healthy -- he was still the leading fantasy back weeks after he tore his ACL. Now that he is starting and healed, he is again showing flashes of his talent in all aspects -- running, blocking, receiving...even passing.
Unless you have an unbelievable tandem of RBs in your stable, I don't see how you can sit him.
Williams got the last 8 carries of the game and I think 10 of the last 11 in the 4th.I lost my game today because I chose Sammy Morris instead of Brown as I didn't want to play Jamal Lewis against Baltimore. I was right about Lewis, but geez did Morris suck. I got Brown in the 7th round and my plan was to see how he played up to the bye and really to have a good keeper next year. I am upset about losing, but happy about Brown looking really good. I have no more worries about Williams, he is fine, but Brown should continue to get healthier and looks solid.
kris
Footballguy
I did the same thing with Morris and Brown. I'm highly disappointed I didn't make the right start but like you am happy to see Brown is a player now. He'll be starting for me no matter what from here on out.Williams got the last 8 carries of the game and I think 10 of the last 11 in the 4th.I lost my game today because I chose Sammy Morris instead of Brown as I didn't want to play Jamal Lewis against Baltimore. I was right about Lewis, but geez did Morris suck. I got Brown in the 7th round and my plan was to see how he played up to the bye and really to have a good keeper next year. I am upset about losing, but happy about Brown looking really good. I have no more worries about Williams, he is fine, but Brown should continue to get healthier and looks solid.
facook
Footballguy
Ah, you got me. OK, how about Week 5 then?How much you want to bet? I say none.facook said:
egofailure
Footballguy
Here's all you need to know.
1) The Dolphins will run, run, run the ball.
2) Ronnie put up mega points behind an inferior line on an inferior team last year.
Start him versus average to above average matchups.
1) The Dolphins will run, run, run the ball.
2) Ronnie put up mega points behind an inferior line on an inferior team last year.
Start him versus average to above average matchups.
Apollo Creed
Footballguy
Some may not be ready to anoint him as a must start yet, but I'm sure most of us who drafted him weren't counting on him as our #2 back. Now, a must start at the flex in a PPR league? Boo-ya!
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Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
Truly a great performance, but some things about it make me nervous. His biggest production came on gadget plays. I don't think you'll be seeing many of those plays again. It's embarrassing for New England how they kept on working, but I don't think that will fly week to week. I didn't watch the game. How did he look on regular running plays?
I have been waiting for a couple of my RB draft picks to show me they should be in my lineup and from week 5 on, i will start ronnie brown. if he has a bad week, so be it. so will others. now all i have to do is get past week 4 when all by 1 of my rbs are on bye and i will be happy. kevin smith to the bench, ronnie brown to the starting lineup with darren mcfadden, i guess.
Horses Mouth
Footballguy
I'll take that bet all day long. Sig bet?
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Agreed on points 1 and 2. Wondering if you consider playing at New England an average/above average matchup though. I think by all counts that is a tough matchup IMO. I cannot see sitting him again this season vs anybody. I sat him this week for Earnest Graham. That will not happen again.Last year he stunk in weeks 1 and 2, and we had all the same doom and gloom on here that we saw this season - then he lit it up from weeks 3-7 until he got hurt. He did that, as you pointed out behind a far inferior line, and also with far inferior QB play. Pennington is no Marino, but he is no Cleo Lemon either. You put 8 in the box against Pennington and he will move the chains with far more efficiency than any other QB that Ronnie has ever played with.
My biggest concern with him was that he may not get the burst and cutting ability back. It appears that he has - sooner than I (and most others) expected. He is again their best player and best weapon by far without question.
He wont see my bench again after this week if he stays healthy. Big "if".
BigJim®
Footballguy
FYI, Ronnie Brown has 5 rushing TDs in the first 3 games, which would mean he could only score 3 TDs in the final 13 games to make you right here. One of the weirdest proclamations I've seen and I was inclined to assume this was some stinky, stinky bait. But I have to ask... care to elaborate beyond "because Miami is bad"? Were they not bad the initial 3 weeks?
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
My guess is I'll be starting him over S-Jax once the Dolphins are off of the bye. That's assuming that Westbrook is back, otherwise it will be S-Jax and Brown as RB for me. Ugh. Hopefully Brown will at least continue to put up 100 total yards each week.
Chaka
Footballguy
Saying I could see it happen is not the same as a take-it-to-the-bank-stone-cold-lock.
blake
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
Fine then I could see him scoring 9 total TDs on the year.They are not good, I wonder if he will make it 16 games and he is still splitting carries evenly with Ricky.FYI, Ronnie Brown has 5 rushing TDs in the first 3 games, which would mean he could only score 3 TDs in the final 13 games to make you right here. One of the weirdest proclamations I've seen and I was inclined to assume this was some stinky, stinky bait. But I have to ask... care to elaborate beyond "because Miami is bad"? Were they not bad the initial 3 weeks?
buck naked
Footballguy
The AFC East has a ridiculously easy rush schedule. Perhaps you've noticed Lynch scoring alot of tds too, or perhaps not.There is no way Brown finishes with only 8 tds after his performance last Sunday.
Chaka
Footballguy
Yes I have noticed Marshawn. And I recognize that the AFC East looks to have an easy road this season.I didn't say that Ronnie couldn't have a phenomenal year just that I could see him come back to earth in a big way.Some people here are getting their panties in a twist over nothing.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Laugh it up; December 14th is coming.Everyone get a grip... it was against the PATRIOTS!He won't get to beat up on aging, overmatched defenses every week.
BigJim®
Footballguy
Thanks. Getting that sort of in depth analysis helps put an opinion in perspective. I'd summarize this as unfounded fear and bad use of stats. When you claim Brown "is still splitting carries evenly" you come off as a box-score FFer who is oblivious to the fact 12 of Williams' 16 carries came in the 2nd half, 8 of them in the 4th quarter after the game was 35-13 and completely out of reach. That hardly supports 'even carries.'Fine then I could see him scoring 9 total TDs on the year.They are not good, I wonder if he will make it 16 games and he is still splitting carries evenly with Ricky.
GoNads
Footballguy
Thanks. Getting that sort of in depth analysis helps put an opinion in perspective. I'd summarize this as unfounded fear and bad use of stats. When you claim Brown "is still splitting carries evenly" you come off as a box-score FFer who is oblivious to the fact 12 of Williams' 16 carries came in the 2nd half, 8 of them in the 4th quarter after the game was 35-13 and completely out of reach. That hardly supports 'even carries.'Fine then I could see him scoring 9 total TDs on the year.They are not good, I wonder if he will make it 16 games and he is still splitting carries evenly with Ricky.
Chaka
Footballguy
Yes, because I am looking to provide you in depth analysis. You asked for reasons, I listed a few.You seem truly hurt that I am suggesting that Ronnie might not have an awesome year. Don't take it personally and try to ease up on the self superior attitude. I have been doing this long enough that I no longer feel the need to provide in depth analysis on issues for which I only have cursory interest. It is not the best use of my time.And if it helps, while I could see Ronnie being average going forward I can also see him having a very nice year. I hope it helps that I clarified that point.Thanks. Getting that sort of in depth analysis helps put an opinion in perspective. I'd summarize this as unfounded fear and bad use of stats. When you claim Brown "is still splitting carries evenly" you come off as a box-score FFer who is oblivious to the fact 12 of Williams' 16 carries came in the 2nd half, 8 of them in the 4th quarter after the game was 35-13 and completely out of reach. That hardly supports 'even carries.'Fine then I could see him scoring 9 total TDs on the year.They are not good, I wonder if he will make it 16 games and he is still splitting carries evenly with Ricky.FYI, Ronnie Brown has 5 rushing TDs in the first 3 games, which would mean he could only score 3 TDs in the final 13 games to make you right here. One of the weirdest proclamations I've seen and I was inclined to assume this was some stinky, stinky bait. But I have to ask... care to elaborate beyond "because Miami is bad"? Were they not bad the initial 3 weeks?
Tanner9919
Footballguy
this is a very good non knee-jerk reaction!remember, this was a proxy war between Parcells and Bellichick, fought with Sparano as HC of the Dolphins.
this is still the Dolphins team we're talking about, one of the NFL's worst teams, by far..they're barely improved from last season from what we've seen, sans for one good game against a
totally different Patriots team that is going to battle without Brady...
:grain_of_salt:
thats not to say that down the stretch of the season,say the final 5 weeks or so, that Brown won't be a top 15 RB, but
I'm taking a wait-n-see approach here, Parcells probably circled his calendar with the two dates against Bellichick...
I wouldn't doubt he took the job with Miami just so that he could compete against Bellichick ( aside from the millions of dollars thrown at him, that is)
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Apollo Creed
Footballguy
Uh, pretty sure he's not starting Brown cuz he's on the bye this week. Although that would be some serious knee-jerking to start him anyway.this is a very good non knee-jerk reaction!
