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Rookie Draft 1.9 seems to be the drop off (1 Viewer)

dmac37

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PPR top 9 no particular order, not including QB's. Quality should fall to #9.

Moreno

Crabtree

Wells

Nicks

Brown

Maclin

McCoy

Greene

Harvin

Some may include DHB and Britt

 
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PPR top 9 no particular order, not including QB's. Quality should fall to #9.Moreno Crabtree Wells Nicks Brown Maclin McCoy GreeneHarvin Some may include DHB and Britt
If you're going to include Nicks and his perceived issues (separation, weight), you have to include DHB, Britt and Robiskie. Assuming we're talking dynasty/keeper, it would be hard not to also include Stafford and Sanchez. Both guys have little competition for the starting gigs and Matt Ryan's rookie season is still fresh in everybody's mind.I think the cliff is at 14 players.
 
PPR top 9 no particular order, not including QB's. Quality should fall to #9.Moreno Crabtree Wells Nicks Brown Maclin McCoy GreeneHarvin Some may include DHB and Britt
If you're going to include Nicks and his perceived issues (separation, weight), you have to include DHB, Britt and Robiskie. Assuming we're talking dynasty/keeper, it would be hard not to also include Stafford and Sanchez. Both guys have little competition for the starting gigs and Matt Ryan's rookie season is still fresh in everybody's mind.I think the cliff is at 14 players.
I agree with 14. I would pay much more for the 14th pick than the 15th pick, I think in almost every draft the top 14 will be identical.
 
:sadbanana: In tiers, then positions within the tier.

Brown, Donald RB 5'10" 210 Connecticut Pick 27, Round 1 (27) Colts

Moreno, Knowshon RB 5'11" 217 Georgia Pick 12, Round 1 (12) Broncos

McCoy, LeSean RB 5'10" 198 Pittsburgh Pick 21, Round 2 (53) Eagles

Wells, Chris RB 6'1" 235 Ohio State Pick 31, Round 1 (31) Cardinals

Crabtree, Michael WR 6'2" 215 Texas Tech Pick 10, Round 1 (10) 49ers

Sanchez, Mark QB 6'2" 227 Southern Cal Pick 5, Round 1 (5) Jets

Stafford, Matthew QB 6'2" 225 Georgia Pick 1, Round 1 (1) Lions

Greene, Shonn RB 5'11" 227 Iowa Pick 1, Round 3 (65) Jets

Britt, Kenny WR 6'3" 218 Rutgers Pick 30, Round 1 (30) Titans

Harvin, Percy WR 5'11" 192 Florida Pick 22, Round 1 (22) Vikings

Heyward-Bey, Darrius WR 6'2" 210 Maryland Pick 7, Round 1 (7) Raiders

Maclin, Jeremy WR 6'0" 198 Missouri Pick 19, Round 1 (19) Eagles

Nicks, Hakeem WR 6'1" 212 North Carolina Pick 29, Round 1 (29) Giants

Robiskie, Brian WR 6'3" 209 Ohio State Pick 4, Round 2 (36) Browns

Cook, Jared TE 6'5" 246 South Carolina Pick 25, Round 3 (89) Titans

Pettigrew, Brandon TE 6'5" 263 Oklahoma State Pick 20, Round 1 (20) Lions

5 players in my top tier and I really don't know which order I'd put them in. The 4 backs seem of equal talent to me and Crabtree has talent enough to be in the top tier, but doesn't blow me away.

My second tier is 11 deep. I have my preferences and the top 6 could be their own tier, but the others could be great too.

Then the talent falls off, although IDP saves it some.

 
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PPR top 9 no particular order, not including QB's. Quality should fall to #9.Moreno Crabtree Wells Nicks Brown Maclin McCoy GreeneHarvin Some may include DHB and Britt
If you're going to include Nicks and his perceived issues (separation, weight), you have to include DHB, Britt and Robiskie. Assuming we're talking dynasty/keeper, it would be hard not to also include Stafford and Sanchez. Both guys have little competition for the starting gigs and Matt Ryan's rookie season is still fresh in everybody's mind.I think the cliff is at 14 players.
I agree with 14. I would pay much more for the 14th pick than the 15th pick, I think in almost every draft the top 14 will be identical.
I'll assume those 14 don't include TEs, which IMO is a mistake.
 
PPR top 9 no particular order, not including QB's. Quality should fall to #9.Moreno Crabtree Wells Nicks Brown Maclin McCoy GreeneHarvin Some may include DHB and Britt
If you're going to include Nicks and his perceived issues (separation, weight), you have to include DHB, Britt and Robiskie. Assuming we're talking dynasty/keeper, it would be hard not to also include Stafford and Sanchez. Both guys have little competition for the starting gigs and Matt Ryan's rookie season is still fresh in everybody's mind.I think the cliff is at 14 players.
I agree with 14. I would pay much more for the 14th pick than the 15th pick, I think in almost every draft the top 14 will be identical.
I'll assume those 14 don't include TEs, which IMO is a mistake.
A lot of nice receiving TE's this year. I'm waiting for most. R 1 - #20(20) DET Brandon Pettigrew (TE) Oklahoma St R 3 - #34(98) CIN Chase Coffman (TE) MissouriR 3 - #36(100) NYG Travis Beckum (TE) WisconsinR 4 - #21(121) BUF Shawn Nelson (TE) So MissR 5 - #13(149) BAL Davon Drew (TE) E CarolinaR 5 - #17(153) PHI Cornelius Ingram (TE) Florida
 
:) In tiers, then positions within the tier.Brown, Donald RB 5'10" 210 Connecticut Pick 27, Round 1 (27) ColtsMoreno, Knowshon RB 5'11" 217 Georgia Pick 12, Round 1 (12) BroncosMcCoy, LeSean RB 5'10" 198 Pittsburgh Pick 21, Round 2 (53) EaglesWells, Chris RB 6'1" 235 Ohio State Pick 31, Round 1 (31) CardinalsCrabtree, Michael WR 6'2" 215 Texas Tech Pick 10, Round 1 (10) 49ersSanchez, Mark QB 6'2" 227 Southern Cal Pick 5, Round 1 (5) JetsStafford, Matthew QB 6'2" 225 Georgia Pick 1, Round 1 (1) LionsGreene, Shonn RB 5'11" 227 Iowa Pick 1, Round 3 (65) JetsBritt, Kenny WR 6'3" 218 Rutgers Pick 30, Round 1 (30) TitansHarvin, Percy WR 5'11" 192 Florida Pick 22, Round 1 (22) VikingsHeyward-Bey, Darrius WR 6'2" 210 Maryland Pick 7, Round 1 (7) RaidersMaclin, Jeremy WR 6'0" 198 Missouri Pick 19, Round 1 (19) EaglesNicks, Hakeem WR 6'1" 212 North Carolina Pick 29, Round 1 (29) GiantsRobiskie, Brian WR 6'3" 209 Ohio State Pick 4, Round 2 (36) BrownsCook, Jared TE 6'5" 246 South Carolina Pick 25, Round 3 (89) TitansPettigrew, Brandon TE 6'5" 263 Oklahoma State Pick 20, Round 1 (20) Lions5 players in my top tier and I really don't know which order I'd put them in. The 4 backs seem of equal talent to me and Crabtree has talent enough to be in the top tier, but doesn't blow me away. My second tier is 11 deep. I have my preferences and the top 6 could be their own tier, but the others could be great too. Then the talent falls off, although IDP saves it some.
I take it that you aren't assuming PPR, correct?
 
My unexpert opinion...

Tier 1

Moreno

Crabtree

Wells

Tier 2

McCoy

Brown

Harvin

Maclin

Tier 3

Greene

Britt

Nicks

DHB

Stafford

Tier 4

Sanchez

Robiskie

Cook

I think the first Drop off starts after the top 7, the second big drop off after the top 15

 
:fishing: In tiers, then positions within the tier.Brown, Donald RB 5'10" 210 Connecticut Pick 27, Round 1 (27) ColtsMoreno, Knowshon RB 5'11" 217 Georgia Pick 12, Round 1 (12) BroncosMcCoy, LeSean RB 5'10" 198 Pittsburgh Pick 21, Round 2 (53) EaglesWells, Chris RB 6'1" 235 Ohio State Pick 31, Round 1 (31) CardinalsCrabtree, Michael WR 6'2" 215 Texas Tech Pick 10, Round 1 (10) 49ersSanchez, Mark QB 6'2" 227 Southern Cal Pick 5, Round 1 (5) JetsStafford, Matthew QB 6'2" 225 Georgia Pick 1, Round 1 (1) LionsGreene, Shonn RB 5'11" 227 Iowa Pick 1, Round 3 (65) JetsBritt, Kenny WR 6'3" 218 Rutgers Pick 30, Round 1 (30) TitansHarvin, Percy WR 5'11" 192 Florida Pick 22, Round 1 (22) VikingsHeyward-Bey, Darrius WR 6'2" 210 Maryland Pick 7, Round 1 (7) RaidersMaclin, Jeremy WR 6'0" 198 Missouri Pick 19, Round 1 (19) EaglesNicks, Hakeem WR 6'1" 212 North Carolina Pick 29, Round 1 (29) GiantsRobiskie, Brian WR 6'3" 209 Ohio State Pick 4, Round 2 (36) BrownsCook, Jared TE 6'5" 246 South Carolina Pick 25, Round 3 (89) TitansPettigrew, Brandon TE 6'5" 263 Oklahoma State Pick 20, Round 1 (20) Lions5 players in my top tier and I really don't know which order I'd put them in. The 4 backs seem of equal talent to me and Crabtree has talent enough to be in the top tier, but doesn't blow me away. My second tier is 11 deep. I have my preferences and the top 6 could be their own tier, but the others could be great too. Then the talent falls off, although IDP saves it some.
I take it that you aren't assuming PPR, correct?
:no: adjust as needed.
 
:fishing: In tiers, then positions within the tier.Brown, Donald RB 5'10" 210 Connecticut Pick 27, Round 1 (27) ColtsMoreno, Knowshon RB 5'11" 217 Georgia Pick 12, Round 1 (12) BroncosMcCoy, LeSean RB 5'10" 198 Pittsburgh Pick 21, Round 2 (53) EaglesWells, Chris RB 6'1" 235 Ohio State Pick 31, Round 1 (31) CardinalsCrabtree, Michael WR 6'2" 215 Texas Tech Pick 10, Round 1 (10) 49ersSanchez, Mark QB 6'2" 227 Southern Cal Pick 5, Round 1 (5) JetsStafford, Matthew QB 6'2" 225 Georgia Pick 1, Round 1 (1) LionsGreene, Shonn RB 5'11" 227 Iowa Pick 1, Round 3 (65) JetsBritt, Kenny WR 6'3" 218 Rutgers Pick 30, Round 1 (30) TitansHarvin, Percy WR 5'11" 192 Florida Pick 22, Round 1 (22) VikingsHeyward-Bey, Darrius WR 6'2" 210 Maryland Pick 7, Round 1 (7) RaidersMaclin, Jeremy WR 6'0" 198 Missouri Pick 19, Round 1 (19) EaglesNicks, Hakeem WR 6'1" 212 North Carolina Pick 29, Round 1 (29) GiantsRobiskie, Brian WR 6'3" 209 Ohio State Pick 4, Round 2 (36) BrownsCook, Jared TE 6'5" 246 South Carolina Pick 25, Round 3 (89) TitansPettigrew, Brandon TE 6'5" 263 Oklahoma State Pick 20, Round 1 (20) Lions5 players in my top tier and I really don't know which order I'd put them in. The 4 backs seem of equal talent to me and Crabtree has talent enough to be in the top tier, but doesn't blow me away. My second tier is 11 deep. I have my preferences and the top 6 could be their own tier, but the others could be great too. Then the talent falls off, although IDP saves it some.
I take it that you aren't assuming PPR, correct?
:no: adjust as needed.
Not to be picky, but you answered a negative with a negative. True or false- your rankings are non-PPR?
 
:eek: In tiers, then positions within the tier.Brown, Donald RB 5'10" 210 Connecticut Pick 27, Round 1 (27) ColtsMoreno, Knowshon RB 5'11" 217 Georgia Pick 12, Round 1 (12) BroncosMcCoy, LeSean RB 5'10" 198 Pittsburgh Pick 21, Round 2 (53) EaglesWells, Chris RB 6'1" 235 Ohio State Pick 31, Round 1 (31) CardinalsCrabtree, Michael WR 6'2" 215 Texas Tech Pick 10, Round 1 (10) 49ersSanchez, Mark QB 6'2" 227 Southern Cal Pick 5, Round 1 (5) JetsStafford, Matthew QB 6'2" 225 Georgia Pick 1, Round 1 (1) LionsGreene, Shonn RB 5'11" 227 Iowa Pick 1, Round 3 (65) JetsBritt, Kenny WR 6'3" 218 Rutgers Pick 30, Round 1 (30) TitansHarvin, Percy WR 5'11" 192 Florida Pick 22, Round 1 (22) VikingsHeyward-Bey, Darrius WR 6'2" 210 Maryland Pick 7, Round 1 (7) RaidersMaclin, Jeremy WR 6'0" 198 Missouri Pick 19, Round 1 (19) EaglesNicks, Hakeem WR 6'1" 212 North Carolina Pick 29, Round 1 (29) GiantsRobiskie, Brian WR 6'3" 209 Ohio State Pick 4, Round 2 (36) BrownsCook, Jared TE 6'5" 246 South Carolina Pick 25, Round 3 (89) TitansPettigrew, Brandon TE 6'5" 263 Oklahoma State Pick 20, Round 1 (20) Lions5 players in my top tier and I really don't know which order I'd put them in. The 4 backs seem of equal talent to me and Crabtree has talent enough to be in the top tier, but doesn't blow me away. My second tier is 11 deep. I have my preferences and the top 6 could be their own tier, but the others could be great too. Then the talent falls off, although IDP saves it some.
I take it that you aren't assuming PPR, correct?
:no: adjust as needed.
Not to be picky, but you answered a negative with a negative. True or false- your rankings are non-PPR?
I use PPR. I'm not sure why you assumed I wasn't. And these aren't rankings, they're 2 tiers, broken down by position, then alphabetical. (I'm sneaky like that)
 
PPR top 9 no particular order, not including QB's. Quality should fall to #9.Moreno Crabtree Wells Nicks Brown Maclin McCoy GreeneHarvin Some may include DHB and Britt
Going by Jeter23's Hyper Active rookie drafts so far, these sure seem like the top 9.
 
:own3d: In tiers, then positions within the tier.Brown, Donald RB 5'10" 210 Connecticut Pick 27, Round 1 (27) ColtsMoreno, Knowshon RB 5'11" 217 Georgia Pick 12, Round 1 (12) BroncosMcCoy, LeSean RB 5'10" 198 Pittsburgh Pick 21, Round 2 (53) EaglesWells, Chris RB 6'1" 235 Ohio State Pick 31, Round 1 (31) CardinalsCrabtree, Michael WR 6'2" 215 Texas Tech Pick 10, Round 1 (10) 49ersSanchez, Mark QB 6'2" 227 Southern Cal Pick 5, Round 1 (5) JetsStafford, Matthew QB 6'2" 225 Georgia Pick 1, Round 1 (1) LionsGreene, Shonn RB 5'11" 227 Iowa Pick 1, Round 3 (65) JetsBritt, Kenny WR 6'3" 218 Rutgers Pick 30, Round 1 (30) TitansHarvin, Percy WR 5'11" 192 Florida Pick 22, Round 1 (22) VikingsHeyward-Bey, Darrius WR 6'2" 210 Maryland Pick 7, Round 1 (7) RaidersMaclin, Jeremy WR 6'0" 198 Missouri Pick 19, Round 1 (19) EaglesNicks, Hakeem WR 6'1" 212 North Carolina Pick 29, Round 1 (29) GiantsRobiskie, Brian WR 6'3" 209 Ohio State Pick 4, Round 2 (36) BrownsCook, Jared TE 6'5" 246 South Carolina Pick 25, Round 3 (89) TitansPettigrew, Brandon TE 6'5" 263 Oklahoma State Pick 20, Round 1 (20) Lions5 players in my top tier and I really don't know which order I'd put them in. The 4 backs seem of equal talent to me and Crabtree has talent enough to be in the top tier, but doesn't blow me away. My second tier is 11 deep. I have my preferences and the top 6 could be their own tier, but the others could be great too. Then the talent falls off, although IDP saves it some.
I basicly agree that these are the most likely difference makers. In IDP a couple LB might sneak into the end of that second group and really extends the number of long term rosterable picks.I generaly agree that there are tiers at 3 then 8 then 14 which is around where the IDP start screaming at you. I have another tier of 4 players after that before it starts getting dicey.
 

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