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Will said:
Biabreakable said:
This is great for looking at talent based ADP Will. I really aprechiate the post. I recall looking at this from your league last year also and it being useful for me. :thumbup: The 2nd round really has some nice prospects this year with the WR class being so deep. I have allready made one attempt to trade a 1st round pick to an owner with 2 mid 2nd round picks. I am going to try that again using pick 1.07 I think.Bush and Hunt were wasted picks imo. I hope that happens in my leagues as well.The top of the 3rd round still has some nice prospects left from my perspective. A couple more Qbs and Wrs still worth drafting. My league has IDPs also so there are more prospects there.
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Glad it helps a little. I really like to see and read as much as I can about these guys before the draft, because once they get drafted so much of their value is then based on situation. Guys can rise and fall quite a bit based on their perceived 'good' and 'bad' situations, and, although I think that's fair to a point, I am also a big believer in the 'cream always rises' philosophy. So next month when I am trying to decide between two guys, I can fall back on who was considered to be 'better' before they got drafted as a tie breaker of sorts.I agree about the second round, there are a lot of talented players in that 13-24 range. Especially WRs. The draft will probably clear this up a bit but I still think second round picks will produce some pretty nice players. I actually used this idea in a startup dynasty last year. I traded out of a few spots to pick up second round picks this year. I now have 6 second rounders. I'm pretty happy about it now. We'll see how I feel next year...As I said above, I agree about Hunt. He's not for me. But I would take a shot with Bush, maybe not quite as high as 2.1, but somewhere mid second I think I'd pull the trigger. It's a gamble but I could see a payoff there if he gets healthy and ends up somewhere he can contribute a little. Even if it's just to trade him after he plays his first good game, I would think someone would bite and offer better than mid second value. I haven't heard anything that says the leg won't eventually heal, have you?
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I totaly agree with your points about ranking the rookies prior to the NFL draft. This has been an interesting topic around these parts recently. I have been playing dynasty for over a decade now and somthing I have learned and keeps being re-affirmed is that talent does overcome situation. I play against very knowledgable compitition as well. Not much flies under thier radar. One way I gain seperation from them is with pre-nfl talent analysis. That can help me draft steals in the rookie draft and trade for talented players that do not do much early in thier NFL careers.Of course situation matters and my pre-nfl draft rankings will change dramaticly once the nfl-draft is done. But I keep tabs on where I had players ranked prior to that for future reference. Some talented players NEVER make it at the NFL level. Even guys who I think are capable just due to thier situations. For example Adrian Peterson Rb Bears. I am not alone in thinking this guy could be a good starting Rb in the NFL. Situation has kept him from being able to prove it. When he has played he has done well however which is some proof about this pre-nfl draft assesment. He still may never get the chance to be the man however. It does seem to me that the Bears trading Jones away may be more than just giving Benson a shot to start however. I think they feel comfortable with Peterson if Benson fails.This is just one example of cream not always rising to the top. But ranking based on talent can still be useful information and like I allready said can come in handy when trading down the road.The 2nd round and even the early 3rd looks promising to me. Moreso than recent drafts primarily because of the WRs. The last time I got this excited about Wr prospects was in 2004 and they were not as deep as what I am seeing this year. 2001 was another interesting Wr class that had some good depth to it.Everything is rosy right now and half if not more than half of these Wrs will not ammount to anything. But some very good prospects are going to fall into the 2nd round this year and allow owners to catch lightning in a bottle.I have never been high on M. Bush but I agree that at some point even injured he is worth taking a chance on. I do not have him ranked high enough that I think he will be a player drafted by me. What team drafts him in the NFL could change my perspective of him. I do give a lot of credit to certain teams player evaluation more than others as well as teams that might be more likely to make a role for a player like him even if he sits the 1st year.
 
here is the remainder of the draft, reprinted in its entirety.

Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments

1.01 1. Cali Gigolos Peterson, Adrian FA RB Wed Apr 4 11:51:35 a.m. CT 2007 Let the draft begin.

1.02 2. Galloping Gnus Johnson, Calvin FA WR Wed Apr 4 2:25:28 p.m. CT 2007 Picking to keep this moving. Both Lynch and Calvin are still available. If you haven't responded to the counters, get back with me. Pine

1.03 3. Galloping Gnus Lynch, Marshawn FA RB Wed Apr 4 2:25:56 p.m. CT 2007 Same as above. Pine

1.04 4. Drunk Not Stupid Meachem, Robert FA WR Wed Apr 4 3:57:49 p.m. CT 2007

1.05 5. Seattle Stars Pittman, Antonio FA RB Thu Apr 5 4:15:32 a.m. CT 2007

1.06 6. Galloping Gnus Booker, Lorenzo FA RB Thu Apr 5 12:16:24 p.m. CT 2007

1.07 7. Drunk Not Stupid Irons, Kenny FA RB Thu Apr 5 12:47:36 p.m. CT 2007 I almost took him at 4, glad I waited.

1.08 8. RedZone Villains Jarrett, Dwayne FA WR Thu Apr 5 12:49:20 p.m. CT 2007

1.09 9. The Juice Jackson, Terry FA RB Thu Apr 5 1:43:09 p.m. CT 2007 This pick is really Brandon Jackson RB Nebraska....but he isn't in the list...I assume this will be fixed later.

1.10 10. Drunk Not Stupid Rice, Sidney FA WR Thu Apr 5 1:50:24 p.m. CT 2007

1.11 11. The Juice Bowe, Dwayne FA WR Thu Apr 5 2:29:18 p.m. CT 2007 Draft going just as scripted.

1.12 12. The Juice Ginn Jr., Ted FA WR Thu Apr 5 8:20:35 p.m. CT 2007 This is just a value pick....he is immediately up for trades.

2.01 13. Tastes Like Chicken Bush, Michael FA RB Thu Apr 5 9:41:14 p.m. CT 2007 Sorry for the Delay boys, that early pace that you guys set lulled me to sleep

2.02 14. Seattle Stars Quinn, Brady FA QB Fri Apr 6 2:48:22 a.m. CT 2007 Wanted Ginn or Bush. Since I have a need at QB I'll take the value pick here.

2.03 15. The Juice Russell, JaMarcus FA QB Fri Apr 6 10:23:24 a.m. CT 2007 Value Pick Again...he is immediately up for trades

2.04 16. Drunk Not Stupid Smith, Steve FA WR Fri Apr 6 11:12:12 a.m. CT 2007

2.05 17. RedZone Villains Olsen, Greg FA TE Fri Apr 6 11:13:50 a.m. CT 2007

2.06 18. Galloping Gnus Leach, Mike DEN TE Fri Apr 6 3:10:00 p.m. CT 2007 Brian Leonard, Rutgers RB

2.07 19. RedZone Villains Hunt, Tony FA RB Fri Apr 6 3:42:43 p.m. CT 2007

2.08 20. RedZone Villains Gonzalez, Anthony FA WR Fri Apr 6 3:43:07 p.m. CT 2007

2.09 21. Seattle Stars Hill, Efrem TBB WR Fri Apr 6 4:49:32 p.m. CT 2007 Pick is Jason Hill, WR, Washington State

2.10 22. Cali Gigolos Higgins, Johnnie Lee FA WR Fri Apr 6 4:54:32 p.m. CT 2007 Johnnie be gooooooood.

2.11 23. Cali Gigolos Alston, Richard FA WR Fri Apr 6 4:55:58 p.m. CT 2007 Pick is Aundrae Allison WR East Carolina

2.12 24. Drunk Not Stupid Jones, Jamal NOS WR Fri Apr 6 9:29:41 p.m. CT 2007 Jacoby Jones, WR Some College I never heard of...

3.01 25. Tastes Like Chicken Walker, Aaron STL TE Fri Apr 6 10:10:25 p.m. CT 2007 Darius Walker-Notre Dame

3.02 26. Booby's Bombers Davis, Craig FA WR Sat Apr 7 7:08:40 a.m. CT 2007

3.03 27. Misfits Miller, Zach FA TE Sat Apr 7 7:08:40 a.m. CT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.04 28. The Juice Bears, Chicago CHI Def Sat Apr 7 7:08:40 a.m. CT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.05 29. Seattle Stars Stanton, Drew FA QB Sat Apr 7 7:08:40 a.m. CT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.06 30. ebolacolas Ravens, Baltimore BAL Def Sat Apr 7 7:11:22 a.m. CT 2007

3.07 31. ebolacolas Patriots, New England NEP Def Sat Apr 7 7:15:10 a.m. CT 2007

3.08 32. Booby's Bombers Wimbush, Derrick JAC RB Sat Apr 7 7:36:59 a.m. CT 2007 Dwayne Wright, RB Fresno ST

3.09 33. Tastes Like Chicken Henderson, William FA RB Sat Apr 7 10:40:46 a.m. CT 2007 Chris Henry-RB Arizona

3.10 34. Cali Gigolos Smith, Paul DEN RB Sat Apr 7 12:03:49 p.m. CT 2007 Pick is Kolby Smith RB Louisville

3.11 35. ebolacolas George, Jeff FA QB Sat Apr 7 7:30:12 p.m. CT 2007 always wanted to draft Jeff George...hahahaha This pick is Ahmad Bradshaw RB Marshall

3.12 36. ebolacolas Faulk, Marshall FA RB Sat Apr 7 7:33:15 p.m. CT 2007 hahahah ok this pick is Mike Walker WR UCF

4.01 37. Booby's Bombers Williams, Paul FA WR Sat Apr 7 7:33:15 p.m. CT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.02 38. Galloping Gnus Chargers, San Diego SDC Def Sun Apr 8 4:27:29 p.m. CT 2007 Sorry for the delay. Traveling back home from Easter weekend.

4.03 39. Misfits Clowney, David FA WR Sun Apr 8 4:27:29 p.m. CT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.04 40. Drunk Not Stupid Williams, Moe FA RB Sun Apr 8 9:04:51 p.m. CT 2007 DeShawn Wynn RB Florida

4.05 41. ebolacolas Parry, Josh SEA RB Sun Apr 8 9:18:31 p.m. CT 2007 Ben Patrick TE Del

4.06 42. Galloping Gnus Eagles, Philadelphia PHI Def Sun Apr 8 9:31:30 p.m. CT 2007

4.07 43. Booby's Bombers Abdullah, Rabih FA RB Sun Apr 8 9:41:22 p.m. CT 2007 Jackie Battle - RB...I think I'm going to give this guy a shot.

4.08 44. RedZone Villains Mays, Lee PIT WR Sun Apr 8 9:51:24 p.m. CT 2007 Brandon Myles wr wv

4.09 45. Turnbull AC's Broncos, Denver DEN Def Sun Apr 8 10:22:25 p.m. CT 2007

4.10 46. Cali Gigolos Cowboys, Dallas DAL Def Sun Apr 8 10:26:00 p.m. CT 2007

4.11 47. RedZone Villains Dolphins, Miami MIA Def Sun Apr 8 10:31:10 p.m. CT 2007

4.12 48. Booby's Bombers Bills, Buffalo BUF Def Sun Apr 8 10:31:10 p.m. CT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

5.01 49. RedZone Villains Wheatley, Tyrone FA RB Sun Apr 8 10:33:25 p.m. CT 2007 Garrett Wolfe rb NIU

5.02 50. Seattle Stars Edwards, Trent FA QB Sun Apr 8 10:59:22 p.m. CT 2007

5.03 51. Seattle Stars Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def Sun Apr 8 10:59:48 p.m. CT 2007

5.04 52. Drunk Not Stupid Panthers, Carolina CAR Def Mon Apr 9 7:17:29 a.m. CT 2007

5.05 53. Misfits Barnes, Darian NYJ RB Mon Apr 9 9:03:34 a.m. CT 2007 Kenneth Darby rb Alabama,

5.06 54. Galloping Gnus Robinson, Jeff FA TE Mon Apr 9 10:32:22 a.m. CT 2007 Laurent Robinson, WR, Ill State

5.07 55. Drunk Not Stupid Jaguars, Jacksonville JAC Def Mon Apr 9 11:26:43 a.m. CT 2007

5.08 56. RedZone Villains Jones, Mark TBB WR Mon Apr 9 12:21:34 p.m. CT 2007 Replacement pick made by Commissioner

5.09 57. Turnbull AC's Seahawks, Seattle SEA Def Mon Apr 9 11:51:06 a.m. CT 2007

5.10 58. Cali Gigolos Smith, Troy FA QB Mon Apr 9 12:46:55 p.m. CT 2007

5.11 59. Drunk Not Stupid Proehl, Ricky IND WR Mon Apr 9 1:23:18 p.m. CT 2007 Maurice Price, WR I have no idea where he played in college, but I read somewhere he is fast!

5.12 60. Seattle Stars Taylor, Jamaar FA WR Mon Apr 9 4:34:55 p.m. CT 2007 Pick is Courtney Taylor, WR, Auburn

6.01 61. Tastes Like Chicken Morton, Johnnie FA WR Mon Apr 9 4:40:30 p.m. CT 2007 Pick is Tyrone Moss

6.02 62. Seattle Stars Baker, Eugene FA WR Mon Apr 9 5:05:17 p.m. CT 2007 Pick is Dallas Baker, WR, Florida

6.03 63. Misfits Buccaneers, Tampa Bay TBB Def Mon Apr 9 5:05:17 p.m. CT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.04 64. Booby's Bombers Echemandu, Adimchinobe OAK RB Mon Apr 9 5:18:49 p.m. CT 2007 Germaine Race - RB - Pitt St.

6.05 65. Misfits Stewart, Kordell FA QB Mon Apr 9 10:46:38 p.m. CT 2007 Kevin Kolb qb Houston

6.06 66. Galloping Gnus Colts, Indianapolis IND Def Tue Apr 10 6:31:03 a.m. CT 2007

6.07 67. Booby's Bombers Banks, Tony FA QB Tue Apr 10 7:05:08 a.m. CT 2007 Pick Skipped By Commissioner Replacement pick made by Commissioner

6.08 68. Booby's Bombers Chiefs, Kansas City KCC Def Tue Apr 10 7:01:36 a.m. CT 2007 Pick Skipped By Commissioner Replacement pick made by Commissioner

6.09 69. The Juice Raiders, Oakland OAK Def Tue Apr 10 10:09:28 a.m. CT 2007 Pick Skipped By Commissioner Replacement pick made by Commissioner

6.10 70. Cali Gigolos Falcons, Atlanta ATL Def Tue Apr 10 11:58:04 a.m. CT 2007

6.11 71. ebolacolas Cobb, Deandra FA RB Tue Apr 10 12:10:36 p.m. CT 2007 Alonzo Coleman RB Hampton

6.12 72. MOA Vikings Vikings, Minnesota MIN Def Wed Apr 11 1:13:59 a.m. CT 2007

7.01 73. Tastes Like Chicken Bannister, Alex BAL WR Wed Apr 11 10:09:18 a.m. CT 2007 David Ball WR

7.02 74. Seattle Stars Bengals, Cincinnati CIN Def Wed Apr 11 10:09:18 a.m. CT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.03 75. Misfits Moore, Lance NOS WR Wed Apr 11 10:23:23 a.m. CT 2007 Ryan Moore wr Miami

7.04 76. Tastes Like Chicken Runnels, J.D. CHI RB Wed Apr 11 10:55:23 a.m. CT 2007 Gary Russell RB

7.05 77. Misfits Jets, New York NYJ Def Wed Apr 11 10:55:23 a.m. CT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.06 78. Galloping Gnus Titans, Tennessee TEN Def Wed Apr 11 9:30:14 p.m. CT 2007

7.07 79. Tastes Like Chicken 49ers, San Francisco SFO Def Wed Apr 11 9:30:14 p.m. CT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.08 80. RedZone Villains Saints, New Orleans NOS Def Wed Apr 11 9:37:24 p.m. CT 2007

7.09 81. Turnbull AC's Sam, P.K. MIA WR Wed Apr 11 10:24:18 p.m. CT 2007 Jeff Samardzija WR Notre Dame

7.10 82. Cali Gigolos McCoy, LeRon ARI WR Wed Apr 11 10:55:44 p.m. CT 2007 Rhema McKnight WR ND

7.11 83. ebolacolas Crosby, Mason FA PK Wed Apr 11 10:55:44 p.m. CT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.12 84. MOA Vikings Harris, Joey FA RB Sat Apr 14 2:00:43 a.m. CT 2007 Justise Hairston, RB Central Conneticut State

Sorry for any formatting issues.

I've got the Gnus team. With our scoring, RBs are at a premium. That is the main reason that reaches in teh first/second occurred with regularity, specifically me taking Booker at 1.6 and Leonard at 2.6.

Gnus

 
One other oddity with this league. Originally, Ds would be drafted with rookies every season. The league voted to keep Ds and so this draft garners keepers from the Ds.

Gnus

 
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