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Rookie WR opportunities (1 Viewer)

loose circuits

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Just like the RB thread I made, I am trying to pinpoint the number of spots that will raise the value of players drafted. There seems to be plenty of opportunities for WRs in this draft. Lets take a look:

Miami: Rishard Matthews is currently #1 on the depth chart opposite Stills so there need is high. They also have other areas on the football team to address so it will be interested to see where they go on draft day...even a possession guy like Vince Mayle would have significant value if drafted in the 5th round if he was their 1st WR off the board. Tannehill seems to have progressed in my eyes so the value is much higher for whomever they pick

Baltimore: Marlon Brown has faded and Steve Smith is ancient. Baltimore could almost use a day one starter and a project

Cleveland: Hartline is definitely not the answer. Hawkins and Gabriel are very good slot guys, and shown they can be adequate. However, Cleveland badly needs a WR1 play maker especially with Cameron's exit. Only problem here is QB play...


Houston: Would love to see them sign Cecil Shorts, but if they don't (and even if they do) they could use some help opposite Hopkins.

Kansas City: I realize people think Alex Smith sucks because of the WR production in KC. However, I believe this could be partially due to the fact the WRs in KC sucked. Looking at Ourlads, they have De'Anthony Thomas currently listed as a starting WR. Not sure if that is accurate, but the dude can make plays. Albert Wilson, Da'Rick Rogers, and Armon Binns have had hype at times, but we are still waiting for them to put it together.


Oakland: Unlike years past, I actually like what they are rolling with at QB now. David Carr showed maturity beyond his years. do they roll into the season with Jones, Streater, Holmes, and Butler as their top 4 WR's? They need to find Carr a playmaker on the outside although Holmes could be that guy if he can do it consistenlty

Buffalo: Has the Harvin signing ever been official? Needs for more playmakers, but QB play could hold them back. Nice run game takes pressure off and with Watkins, Woods around defensive attention will be elsewhere.

San Diego: Is Dontrelle Inman going to develop? Malcom Floyd is getting up there and rumors are that they have been talking with WRs. Plenty of potential here

Philly: I hope Josh Huff can develop, but there is nothing for certain. I also like Riley Cooper, but nobody else does so there could be a chance for 2 or more WRs in Chip's attack although will they be run heavy??
Chicago: Will they bring in someone to compete with Wilson for the #2 gig? At the least, they need a WR3...

Carolina: Philly Brown has shown some potential and Cotchery is not the answer. They need to get someone to take top off defense and open things up underneath. Then again, they need a lot of stuff.

New Orleans: No more Graham, Stills, or Thomas leaves plenty of targets out there. Will Nick Toon finally put it together- he showed signs last year. Whoever ends up here, value likely to shoot through roof.

Seattle: Amazing what they can do with a shortage at WR. With Graham now in town, how many targets will there be? Also, Paul Richardson and maybe Kevin Norwood could be developing.

SanFran: I am not a Torrey Smith believer, but he serves a purpose like Kenny Stills and Mike Wallace which will work well for Boldin and maybe Ellington out of the slot. Boldin won't be there forever though, so a heir apparent needs to be in the works.

StLouis: Contract they gave Britt looks like legit starter money. Austin is more a gimmick if used correctly and who knows what's up with Quick's recovery. Givens and Bailey haven't lived up to potential. Will they finally find an answer they've been trying so desperately to get...?

Plenty of opportunity. If someone knows off the top of their head how many WRs remain unsigned that could have an impact, please share...

 
StLouis: Contract they gave Britt looks like legit starter money. Austin is more a gimmick if used correctly and who knows what's up with Quick's recovery. Givens and Bailey haven't lived up to potential. Will they finally find an answer they've been trying so desperately to get...?
Rams gave him good money but it showed they still don't trust him - it's actually a one year deal with $4.3M guaranteed and a team option to keep him for 2016.

 
Seattle: Amazing what they can do with a shortage at WR. With Graham now in town, how many targets will there be? Also, Paul Richardson and maybe Kevin Norwood could be developing.
It wasn't a good spot for WR's before and with Graham it's now a dead zone.

 
I wouldn't be surprised if the Titans traded Hunter as Whisenhunt doesn't seem to like him, then they'd totally need some height and deserve to be on this list.

I think the Giants showed they don't have a 2 opposite Beckham but have a couple threes. Remember last year how many insisted Jernigan was real good? Randle the year before? Cruz' injury and recovery had received a lot of talk but that's quieted down. They did very well to predict the end of Steve Smith and Hakeem Nicks' careers as a top WR due to injury. I wouldn't be surprised if they drafted a top WR and traded Cruz. If you're thinking nah Cruz will be OK, he'll recover...that was said about Nicks and Smith. I throw this out there as somehow being unlikely yet if it did happen people wouldn't be surprised.

 
Baltimore: Marlon Brown has faded and Steve Smith is ancient. Baltimore could almost use a day one starter and a project
No one needs a WR more than the Ravens. Smith is 36, they lost their their next two top targets (Smith and Daniels), and Pitta might not be able to play. Only Smith and 30 year RB Forsett caught even 25 passes last year.

Unfortunately, by the time they pick at #26 four WR's could be off the board.

 
New Orleans: No more Graham, Stills, or Thomas leaves plenty of targets out there. Will Nick Toon finally put it together- he showed signs last year. Whoever ends up here, value likely to shoot through roof.
I don't see this.

If they wanted a good young WR Stills wouldn't have been traded.

They have a good corps and other needs

 
Miami: Rishard Matthews is currently #1 on the depth chart opposite Stills so there need is high. They also have other areas on the football team to address so it will be interested to see where they go on draft day...even a possession guy like Vince Mayle would have significant value if drafted in the 5th round if he was their 1st WR off the board. Tannehill seems to have progressed in my eyes so the value is much higher for whomever they pick
thanks for the nice analysis, but for Miami I think you forgot about Landry.
 
Miami: Rishard Matthews is currently #1 on the depth chart opposite Stills so there need is high. They also have other areas on the football team to address so it will be interested to see where they go on draft day...even a possession guy like Vince Mayle would have significant value if drafted in the 5th round if he was their 1st WR off the board. Tannehill seems to have progressed in my eyes so the value is much higher for whomever they pick
thanks for the nice analysis, but for Miami I think you forgot about Landry.
doh, was skimming ourLads, not sure how I forgot about him
 
New Orleans: No more Graham, Stills, or Thomas leaves plenty of targets out there. Will Nick Toon finally put it together- he showed signs last year. Whoever ends up here, value likely to shoot through roof.
I don't see this.

If they wanted a good young WR Stills wouldn't have been traded.

They have a good corps and other needs
It's been reported he was traded because he was enjoying the NO nightlife a little too much for their liking.

I think they may very well be in the market for a WR. Colston doesn't have much left in the tank, and Cooks seems built for the slot. Wouldn't be surprised a bit if they grab Devante Parker.

 
Great thread idea. I always love looking at things before the players draft in an attempt to be more objective about the situation or player.

Miami: I think Jarvis Landry is the guy to own here. I don't see how Stills gets more passes thrown his way than Landry.

Baltimore: I think the opportunity is here for a WR2 max. Just not going to be a prolific passing attack. Not in the team's DNA.

Cleveland: Don't love the opportunity this year. I think it's similar to what we saw in Buffalo last season. Just a lack of QB talent and limited upside for wideouts.


Houston: Who is the QB down here? They at least have the advantage of Arian Stinkin Foster. I think Mallet > Cleveland's QB. Hopkins is the man down here. It's his show. If a John Brown for instance or Davante Adams they would start right out of the gate. Whether they could perform consistently is my question.

Kansas City: Alex Smith's best WR finish was what exactly? Has he ever been the QB to a top 20 WR?


Oakland: Carr looks legit. Nobody else there. Nice landing spot.

Buffalo: Lots of young WR talent here. No thanks.

San Diego: Inman has a chance. If the draft a WR in the top 2 rounds, I'd think there will be serious competition for looks.

Philly: I hope Josh Huff can develop, but there is nothing for certain. (agree)

 
New Orleans: No more Graham, Stills, or Thomas leaves plenty of targets out there. Will Nick Toon finally put it together- he showed signs last year. Whoever ends up here, value likely to shoot through roof.
I don't see this.

If they wanted a good young WR Stills wouldn't have been traded.

They have a good corps and other needs
It's been reported he was traded because he was enjoying the NO nightlife a little too much for their liking.

I think they may very well be in the market for a WR. Colston doesn't have much left in the tank, and Cooks seems built for the slot. Wouldn't be surprised a bit if they grab Devante Parker.
Gotta be more to it.

Some cities like NOLA, that's gotta happen relatively often in

ETA also we're talking about a big pick here not some 3rd 4th rounder. This is what I meant by bigger needs-they're more important for that pick IMO

 
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StLouis: Contract they gave Britt looks like legit starter money. Austin is more a gimmick if used correctly and who knows what's up with Quick's recovery. Givens and Bailey haven't lived up to potential. Will they finally find an answer they've been trying so desperately to get...?
Rams gave him good money but it showed they still don't trust him - it's actually a one year deal with $4.3M guaranteed and a team option to keep him for 2016.
Quick still under contract, I think, and he put up some decent numbers given the uneven QB play. he's a different, more physical kind of WR and i'm hoping he shows even more this year with Foles.

 
New Orleans: No more Graham, Stills, or Thomas leaves plenty of targets out there. Will Nick Toon finally put it together- he showed signs last year. Whoever ends up here, value likely to shoot through roof.
I don't see this.

If they wanted a good young WR Stills wouldn't have been traded.

They have a good corps and other needs
It's been reported he was traded because he was enjoying the NO nightlife a little too much for their liking.

I think they may very well be in the market for a WR. Colston doesn't have much left in the tank, and Cooks seems built for the slot. Wouldn't be surprised a bit if they grab Devante Parker.
Gotta be more to it.

Some cities like NOLA, that's gotta happen relatively often in

ETA also we're talking about a big pick here not some 3rd 4th rounder. This is what I meant by bigger needs-they're more important for that pick IMO
They got a decent 3rd, so they cut a profit. Would love to know who beyond Cooks and Colston they feel comfortable with....Toon or Coleman??

 
New Orleans: No more Graham, Stills, or Thomas leaves plenty of targets out there. Will Nick Toon finally put it together- he showed signs last year. Whoever ends up here, value likely to shoot through roof.
I don't see this.

If they wanted a good young WR Stills wouldn't have been traded.

They have a good corps and other needs
It's been reported he was traded because he was enjoying the NO nightlife a little too much for their liking.

I think they may very well be in the market for a WR. Colston doesn't have much left in the tank, and Cooks seems built for the slot. Wouldn't be surprised a bit if they grab Devante Parker.
Gotta be more to it.

Some cities like NOLA, that's gotta happen relatively often in

ETA also we're talking about a big pick here not some 3rd 4th rounder. This is what I meant by bigger needs-they're more important for that pick IMO
They got a decent 3rd, so they cut a profit. Would love to know who beyond Cooks and Colston they feel comfortable with....Toon or Coleman??
I don't see that as a profit today.

First because we're discussing a top WR going to them which involves well before a 3rd.

2nd because on draft day they're hopeful a player will workout. Stills produced-he's worth more than whatever he was drafted at as a known quantity with at least a floor if not a ceiling realized yet.

I don't get to watch them often enough. Toon makes some good plays and I'm always wondering why they sit him or re-signed that has been. Something about him they don't like that I'm not noticing. Easily jammed at LOS? I don't know. It seems to me it's possible they weren't totally confident in him and now they are? I guess you could make an argument he deserves a shot.

I don't see Colston as too much more than young guy messed up, show em' how it's done-someday you'll be a coach. He seems to hit the fountain of youth every now and then but most times he seems old.

 
New Orleans: No more Graham, Stills, or Thomas leaves plenty of targets out there. Will Nick Toon finally put it together- he showed signs last year. Whoever ends up here, value likely to shoot through roof.
I don't see this.

If they wanted a good young WR Stills wouldn't have been traded.

They have a good corps and other needs
It's been reported he was traded because he was enjoying the NO nightlife a little too much for their liking.

I think they may very well be in the market for a WR. Colston doesn't have much left in the tank, and Cooks seems built for the slot. Wouldn't be surprised a bit if they grab Devante Parker.
Gotta be more to it.

Some cities like NOLA, that's gotta happen relatively often in

ETA also we're talking about a big pick here not some 3rd 4th rounder. This is what I meant by bigger needs-they're more important for that pick IMO
They got a decent 3rd, so they cut a profit. Would love to know who beyond Cooks and Colston they feel comfortable with....Toon or Coleman??
I don't see that as a profit today.

First because we're discussing a top WR going to them which involves well before a 3rd.

2nd because on draft day they're hopeful a player will workout. Stills produced-he's worth more than whatever he was drafted at as a known quantity with at least a floor if not a ceiling realized yet.

I don't get to watch them often enough. Toon makes some good plays and I'm always wondering why they sit him or re-signed that has been. Something about him they don't like that I'm not noticing. Easily jammed at LOS? I don't know. It seems to me it's possible they weren't totally confident in him and now they are? I guess you could make an argument he deserves a shot.

I don't see Colston as too much more than young guy messed up, show em' how it's done-someday you'll be a coach. He seems to hit the fountain of youth every now and then but most times he seems old.
I'm not really discussing studs only which isn't really my forte. A guy like Phillip Dorsett could go there and fill that role for less.

The intent of this thread was more the idea to find the number of players drafted who will have value based on position. A guy drafted into New Orleans now will certainly have value.

Toon's biggest issue is injuries and he seemed to have shake that now...

 
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Miami: Has Jarvis Landry and Kenny Stills as well as Cameron at TE I don't really see a good opening for a rookie WR here.

Baltimore: This would be a good landing spot for all 3 skill position players. Might not see one until round two or later.

Cleveland: No QB has 2 1st round picks so a good WR is likely to go here. I would be very nervous about DGB with the Browns.

Houston: A RB would be more interesting than a WR here. I don't see a QB or passing volume to support a 3rd WR

Kansas City: Smith is not good for WR production and neither is Andy Reid. Maclin should still see a lot of targets but I would expect the pecking order to be Charles, Kelce, Maclin and not room for much else.

Oakland: A WR here would be a good target to see a lot of targets.

Buffalo: I don't see room for another WR here. The skill positions aside from TE are pretty well stocked imo.

San Diego: Keenan Allen and targets to the TE Gates/Green looks like the main weapons here. A 3rd WR would have to be good. Rivers could support another WR targets if they do not improve thier running game.

Philly: CK did not seem concerned about getting rid of Jackson and now Maclin. I don't see a lot of opportunity here.

Chicago: The Bears seem like a good spot for a rookie WR to land.

Carolina: A WR here would be interesting but I would expect this to continue to be a running team and I don't see pass attempts for Newton going up significantly enough to support a 3rd target.

New Orleans: A WR with a good QB and quality offensive coach Sean Payton makes a WR target interesting here.

Seattle: Richardson had a bad injury which slows his development. Norwood is ok. A WR pick here could be good.

SanFran: I don't like the changes in SF. They seem like a team that will regress. This may lead to more pass attempts, which could be good, but don't like the long term outlook for WR here.

Rams: I don't see this becoming a high volume passing offense. They have enough WR in house that I don't see them investing in another one at this point.



Minnesota: Teddy Bridgewater. Mike Wallace is getting older and may not be long with the team if he doesn't perform well. A WR pick here would be interesting for FF

Atlanta: White is getting older and they let Douglas go. Good QB and high volume pass attempts. Attractive landing spot for a WR.

Titans: Nate Washington is getting older and a FA right now. I don't think Hunter will turn it around. A new WR to go with Wright would be interesting here. I don't think they have a QB yet.

Bengals: Possible the Bengals are not content with Sanu and Jones. Eifert hasn't been able to stay healthy. Doubt there is a room for another WR here, but maybe.



Looking at all the teams I would say there are 8-10 attractive landing spots for rookie WR right now.

 
New Orleans: No more Graham, Stills, or Thomas leaves plenty of targets out there. Will Nick Toon finally put it together- he showed signs last year. Whoever ends up here, value likely to shoot through roof.
I don't see this.

If they wanted a good young WR Stills wouldn't have been traded.

They have a good corps and other needs
New Orleans: A WR with a good QB and quality offensive coach Sean Payton makes a WR target interesting here.
- Discussing this in the Saints thread, I think this has to happen in the 1st or 2nd round, which yes is contrarian to the common wisdom around here and elsewhere but Payton has to drive this team through the passing game, it's in his DNA.

I also don't see where they have a "good corps." Unless Coleman, SJones and Saunders get coached up (it's Brees and Payton, could happen I guess...) I see a Cooks (who was asked to do too many things last year and not enough of one good thing, which is go deep like a bat outta hell), a slowing Colston and...

Toon

Tanner

Coleman

SJones

Snead

Maybe it's finally Toon's time, or maybe he's Adrian Arrington.

 
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My home league does the draft for the 1st round before the draft so this is an interesting thread. I pick late with the 1.12 and 1.14 and am looking at guys like Sammie Coates, Phillip Dorsett, Breshard Perriman and Devin Smith. All have a very good chance to be 2nd round picks in the NFL so situation is huge

Where would I like my WR to land

1. Batlimore. I think a great chance to play right away and I like Flacco. A few of these guys with deep speed with look nice

2. San Deigo. As long as they dont sign Crabtree. Not worried about Stevie Johnson too much.

3. Chicago., How hard to beat out Wilson. Great chance to start right out fo the gate and while Cutler is not as good as Rivers, they will still throw

4. New Orleans. What do they really have. I love a TE here also as a guy like Funchess would look good.

5. Philly. I think they run alot but still. Only Matthews and Ertz to really beat. How hard to supplant Huff or Cooper. They run lots of plays

Tier down

6. Seattle. Just not the O of the above teams. But opportunity is there

7. Oakland. Kind of like Seattle but other WR's there. PLus I think they draft White or Cooper and those guys will be a little different

8. KC. Chance to start but still smith at QB

9. Carolina. Newton is not prolific passer and steals TD and they got Benjamin and Olsen

10. Houston. ONly Shorts to beat out here but again QB to me is weak

Future

I do like Atlanta to replace White as a great landing spot as I dont need the WR to star out of the gate.

The rest are not too exciting.

 
loose circuits said:
brun said:
loose circuits said:
Miami: Rishard Matthews is currently #1 on the depth chart opposite Stills so there need is high. They also have other areas on the football team to address so it will be interested to see where they go on draft day...even a possession guy like Vince Mayle would have significant value if drafted in the 5th round if he was their 1st WR off the board. Tannehill seems to have progressed in my eyes so the value is much higher for whomever they pick
thanks for the nice analysis, but for Miami I think you forgot about Landry.
doh, was skimming ourLads, not sure how I forgot about him
I don't think Miami is a good landing spot for year one value, but it is likely they will pick a WR.

 
Likely WR landing spots which should yield redraft value: Baltimore, Philly, Saints, Raiders, Bears.

Firm maybes among likely WR landing spots in redraft: Miami, Atlanta, Seattle, Minnesota, Cleveland, Carolina.

Likely who cares: Houston, KC, Rams, Chargers, 9rs, Titans.

 
as a bear fan, they SHOULD be drafting defense at 7... but the fantasy addict in me would love to see one of the top 2 WR prospects (cooper or white) land in chicago.

My lesson learned from last year is rookie WR's can be way more than fringe wr3's as was previously the norm... watkins, beckham, evans, cooks and benjamin (mathews in the 2nd) all were off my radar and every one of those guys went for less than $10 in my $200 budget auction. I hope to take at least 1 if not 2 of the rookie 1st round WR's and hope I get lucky

 
Miami: Rishard Matthews is currently #1 on the depth chart opposite Stills so there need is high. They also have other areas on the football team to address so it will be interested to see where they go on draft day...even a possession guy like Vince Mayle would have significant value if drafted in the 5th round if he was their 1st WR off the board. Tannehill seems to have progressed in my eyes so the value is much higher for whomever they pick
thanks for the nice analysis, but for Miami I think you forgot about Landry.
doh, was skimming ourLads, not sure how I forgot about him
and Cameron...Miami is the one of the worst landing spots now for a WR - too many mouths to feed with Stills, Landry, Cameron.

 
My top 3 landing spots for a rookie WR this year would be:

Oakland - I like what Carr showed last year - Oakland needs a true #1 WR (immediate impact & can grow with Carr)

Baltimore - Steve Smith is only decent receiver on the team & he is almost my age - Flacco is decent QB & any WR drafted high will start immediately & get a ton of targets.

Saints - With no Graham or Stills and Colston getting long in the tooth - a bigger WR like D.Parker would be a perfect compliment to Cooks.

 
Miami: Rishard Matthews is currently #1 on the depth chart opposite Stills so there need is high. They also have other areas on the football team to address so it will be interested to see where they go on draft day...even a possession guy like Vince Mayle would have significant value if drafted in the 5th round if he was their 1st WR off the board. Tannehill seems to have progressed in my eyes so the value is much higher for whomever they pick
thanks for the nice analysis, but for Miami I think you forgot about Landry.
doh, was skimming ourLads, not sure how I forgot about him
and Cameron...Miami is the one of the worst landing spots now for a WR - too many mouths to feed with Stills, Landry, Cameron.
Not exactly a murderers row of stars there. Cameron had one good year, the other two have had a few good games. A top rookie like Watkins, Evans or OBJ would ascend the pecking order in short order.
 
Just like the RB thread I made, I am trying to pinpoint the number of spots that will raise the value of players drafted. There seems to be plenty of opportunities for WRs in this draft. Lets take a look:

Miami: Rishard Matthews is currently #1 on the depth chart opposite Stills so there need is high. They also have other areas on the football team to address so it will be interested to see where they go on draft day...even a possession guy like Vince Mayle would have significant value if drafted in the 5th round if he was their 1st WR off the board. Tannehill seems to have progressed in my eyes so the value is much higher for whomever they pick

Baltimore: Marlon Brown has faded and Steve Smith is ancient. Baltimore could almost use a day one starter and a project

Cleveland: Hartline is definitely not the answer. Hawkins and Gabriel are very good slot guys, and shown they can be adequate. However, Cleveland badly needs a WR1 play maker especially with Cameron's exit. Only problem here is QB play...


Houston: Would love to see them sign Cecil Shorts, but if they don't (and even if they do) they could use some help opposite Hopkins.

Kansas City: I realize people think Alex Smith sucks because of the WR production in KC. However, I believe this could be partially due to the fact the WRs in KC sucked. Looking at Ourlads, they have De'Anthony Thomas currently listed as a starting WR. Not sure if that is accurate, but the dude can make plays. Albert Wilson, Da'Rick Rogers, and Armon Binns have had hype at times, but we are still waiting for them to put it together.


Oakland: Unlike years past, I actually like what they are rolling with at QB now. David Carr showed maturity beyond his years. do they roll into the season with Jones, Streater, Holmes, and Butler as their top 4 WR's? They need to find Carr a playmaker on the outside although Holmes could be that guy if he can do it consistenlty

Buffalo: Has the Harvin signing ever been official? Needs for more playmakers, but QB play could hold them back. Nice run game takes pressure off and with Watkins, Woods around defensive attention will be elsewhere.

San Diego: Is Dontrelle Inman going to develop? Malcom Floyd is getting up there and rumors are that they have been talking with WRs. Plenty of potential here

Philly: I hope Josh Huff can develop, but there is nothing for certain. I also like Riley Cooper, but nobody else does so there could be a chance for 2 or more WRs in Chip's attack although will they be run heavy??
Chicago: Will they bring in someone to compete with Wilson for the #2 gig? At the least, they need a WR3...

Carolina: Philly Brown has shown some potential and Cotchery is not the answer. They need to get someone to take top off defense and open things up underneath. Then again, they need a lot of stuff.

New Orleans: No more Graham, Stills, or Thomas leaves plenty of targets out there. Will Nick Toon finally put it together- he showed signs last year. Whoever ends up here, value likely to shoot through roof.

Seattle: Amazing what they can do with a shortage at WR. With Graham now in town, how many targets will there be? Also, Paul Richardson and maybe Kevin Norwood could be developing.

SanFran: I am not a Torrey Smith believer, but he serves a purpose like Kenny Stills and Mike Wallace which will work well for Boldin and maybe Ellington out of the slot. Boldin won't be there forever though, so a heir apparent needs to be in the works.

StLouis: Contract they gave Britt looks like legit starter money. Austin is more a gimmick if used correctly and who knows what's up with Quick's recovery. Givens and Bailey haven't lived up to potential. Will they finally find an answer they've been trying so desperately to get...?

Plenty of opportunity. If someone knows off the top of their head how many WRs remain unsigned that could have an impact, please share...
How is rishard matthews number 1 opposite Stills in miami? U ever hear of a guy Named Jarvis Landry???? He would like a word with you. :D

 
chicago,saints, baltimore, carolina, minnesota, miami, new England are all good places to land

 
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