Rookies looking for #1 money (1 Viewer)

[ImTheScientist]

July 27, 2006, 08:51 Titans :: QBQB V. Young Looking For #1 MoneyJim Wyatt, Nashville Tennessean - [Full Article]Titans GM Floyd Reese met Wednesday with agent Major Adams, who represents QB Vince Young, and the two sides were nearing agreement on what could be one of the biggest rookie contracts in NFL history. Reese and Adams are scheduled to meet again today. It is believed Adams is seeking a deal that would be close to, if not exceed, the contract signed by DE Mario Williams, the first overall pick.

So let me get this strait. Reggie Bush wants #1 money as the #2 pick in the draft. Now Vince Young wants #1 money as the #3 pick in the draft What a bunch of crap. If Bush gets #1 money he is instantly the highest paid RB in the NFL. The NFL needs to address this issue! BAD!

 

[mozzy84]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

 

[Keys Myaths]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

Can we have an ***OFFICIAL*** "Money is immoral" thread?

 

[Polish Hammer]

July 27, 2006, 08:51

Titans :: QB

QB V. Young Looking For #1 Money

Jim Wyatt, Nashville Tennessean - [Full Article]

Titans GM Floyd Reese met Wednesday with agent Major Adams, who represents QB Vince Young, and the two sides were nearing agreement on what could be one of the biggest rookie contracts in NFL history. Reese and Adams are scheduled to meet again today. It is believed Adams is seeking a deal that would be close to, if not exceed, the contract signed by DE Mario Williams, the first overall pick.

So let me get this strait. Reggie Bush wants #1 money as the #2 pick in the draft. Now Vince Young wants #1 money as the #3 pick in the draft What a bunch of crap. If Bush gets #1 money he is instantly the highest paid RB in the NFL. The NFL needs to address this issue! BAD!

GMs and owners just need to learn how to say NO and be firm. However, there is always so much pressure on them to get these guys into camp (by the fan base) that it may erode some of their ability to stand firm. I think if a few owners at the top of the draft just started doing this regularly, agents and players might get the hint. Then again, you'll never stop greed.

 

[Gatorman]

The next NFL collective barganing agreement should really look to chenge the rookie scale, especially in the top 10 of the draft. IMHO

 

[ImTheScientist]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

 

[Warpig]

From what I understand on the Vince Young thing, it sounded like the Owner was willing to pay him insane amounts of money (we're talking Peyton Manning moolah!). I'm sure Vince Young would have been humble enough to take #3 money since that's what he was. Ofcourse they are gonna want as much as they can, but when the owner makes it known that he is willing to pay blockbuster money, should Vince Young decline? But the case with Bush is just silly. He could have been the #1 but his monetary demands forced Houston to take Mario. Bush can only blame himself. But I'm sure New Orleans will give him what he wants unfortunately.

 

[joffer]

i think some of these guys are getting bad advice from bad agents, but if they really want the money, then they have to be prepared to hold out and possibly hurt their chances to contribute in their rookie year.

 

[Keys Myaths]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

I'm going to negotiate, yes. If you don't negotiate when you're offered a job, you're passing up money, no matter where you work.

 

[Doug Drinen]

It is believed Adams is seeking a deal that would be close to, if not exceed, the contract signed by DE Mario Williams, the first overall pick.

There is no possible way anything that is reported as being "believed" could be wrong. Especially when two sides are trying to negotiate.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

Don't ever compare a job at kinkos with an NFL player. It is comical.

 

[Sidewinder]

From what I understand on the Vince Young thing, it sounded like the Owner was willing to pay him insane amounts of money (we're talking Peyton Manning moolah!). I'm sure Vince Young would have been humble enough to take #3 money since that's what he was. Ofcourse they are gonna want as much as they can, but when the owner makes it known that he is willing to pay blockbuster money, should Vince Young decline? But the case with Bush is just silly. He could have been the #1 but his monetary demands forced Houston to take Mario. Bush can only blame himself. But I'm sure New Orleans will give him what he wants unfortunately.

Ahh, so it's fine for VY to ask for #1 money when Tennessee supposedly wants to throw Fort Knox at him, but when Benson says "we'll do what it takes and pay him" (in reference to Bush right after the draft) it's not ok for Bush to want the money ?

 

[redman]

LMAO if two of the teams with owners complaining about income disparity totally blow the slotting system with ridiculous rookie contracts.

 

[T Man]

The next NFL collective barganing agreement should really look to chenge the rookie scale, especially in the top 10 of the draft. IMHO

IMHO the 4 year + veterans should be making the money. I'm all for paying players who produce and hate this payment for potential. A salary ceiling and salary cap with a built in scale for the rookies.

THe owners should then be willing to give up another year on the contract (5 years for the first 15 picks, 4 year max for the second half of round 1 and round 2, and 3 year max for round 3 and higher).

THe problem with the system now is that these young guys often forget that they are the boss and the agents listen to them. An agent may hold a player out because this deal will be the deal he uses to recruit next year's rookies. Its not always the best case scenario for the rookie.

 

[Big Score]

Isn't the draft money slotted by both the position of the player (IE: QB, RB, DE, CB, WR etc...) in question, as well as where they were actually drafted?

 

[Warpig]

From what I understand on the Vince Young thing, it sounded like the Owner was willing to pay him insane amounts of money (we're talking Peyton Manning moolah!).  I'm sure Vince Young would have been humble enough to take #3 money since that's what he was.  Ofcourse they are gonna want as much as they can, but when the owner makes it known that he is willing to pay blockbuster money, should Vince Young decline?  But the case with Bush is just silly.  He could have been the #1 but his monetary demands forced Houston to take Mario.  Bush can only blame himself.  But I'm sure New Orleans will give him what he wants unfortunately.

Ahh, so it's fine for VY to ask for #1 money when Tennessee supposedly wants to throw Fort Knox at him, but when Benson says "we'll do what it takes and pay him" (in reference to Bush right after the draft) it's not ok for Bush to want the money ?

I said it is Bush's fault because he could have been the #1 pick and demanded #1 pick money. But since his demands we so outrageous since he's not a QB, Houston moved on. Bush should have not bought into his own hype thinking he's the greatest player ever and signed a contract that would have paid him a little more than Alex Smith got last year. He obviously wants something insane. But the owner of New Orleans was heard saying he would give whatever it took to sign him when they decided to take him #2. You'd think these punks would see how the system works. What's to keep the #15 pick from asking for #1 money "just because he can"? I agree that something needs to be done. Some kind of tiered ceiling for rookies.

 

[Sidewinder]

I said it is Bush's fault because he could have been the #1 pick and demanded #1 pick money. But since his demands we so outrageous since he's not a QB, Houston moved on.

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Apparently you missed this back in late April. Guess it's your choice whehter you want to believe it or not.TSN article - Attner

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Since March, the Sporting News has been given inside access to the decision-making process that led to the Texans' selection of Williams. This is the story of how they arrived at what will be remembered as one of the most controversial choices in NFL draft history.

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A number of factors ultimately drive the Texans' choice of Williams. They are infatuated with the depth and array of his skills; a huge man who covers 40 yards in 4.66 seconds, he can change a game's tempo. And he can play the pass as effectively as the run. They believe his tools on defense equal or exceed those of Bush's on offense and that Williams has a bigger upside.

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On Tuesday, Casserly calls McNair and tells him he would select Williams. The owner wants to think about it. On Wednesday, the Bush camp embraces a six-year, $54 million contract but wants $28 million guaranteed; the Texans offer $26 million. Dogra also wants $28 million guaranteed. On the same day, Kubiak and Casserly decide on Williams. Both agree their defense has greater need. McNair is flying to New York; they will seek his OK in the morning.

 

[mozzy84]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

 

[ImTheScientist]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Good luck with that! People with zero experience do not make generally they are among the lowest paid individuals in a company.

EDIT: Regardless of talent

 

[thayman]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Good luck with that! People with zero experience do not make generally they are among the lowest paid individuals in a company.

EDIT: Regardless of talent

Unless you work in the NFL where you can make quite the sizeable salary with little to no experience. It seems that all of the top draft picks are just using the media (like they do every year) to keep their barganing power high....

 

[redman]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Good luck with that! People with zero experience do not make generally they are among the lowest paid individuals in a company.

EDIT: Regardless of talent

Gotcha, so the older the RB the more valuable he is. The NFL has some oddities about it that don't make it comparable to the regular business world. The comparisons by and large don't work.

 

[ImTheScientist]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Good luck with that! People with zero experience do not make generally they are among the lowest paid individuals in a company.

EDIT: Regardless of talent

Gotcha, so the older the RB the more valuable he is. The NFL has some oddities about it that don't make it comparable to the regular business world. The comparisons by and large don't work.

Its similar to when a company lets an employee go because he makes too much money and they can pay a much younger less experienced employee a lot less to do the same job. Happens all the time. Just as in the NFL, in the "working world" salary does not grow exponentially with age.The NFL is a business

 

[thayman]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Good luck with that! People with zero experience do not make generally they are among the lowest paid individuals in a company.

EDIT: Regardless of talent

Gotcha, so the older the RB the more valuable he is. The NFL has some oddities about it that don't make it comparable to the regular business world. The comparisons by and large don't work.

Its similar to when a company lets an employee go because he makes too much money and they can pay a much younger less experienced employee a lot less to do the same job. Happens all the time. Just as in the NFL, in the "working world" salary does not grow exponentially with age.The NFL is a business

Right now the starting QB is Billy Volek. I don't know what his salary is, but I'm willing to bet that Vince Young will sign a contract that is quite a bit higher.

 

[Big Score]

Isn't the draft money slotted by both the position of the player (IE: QB, RB, DE, CB, WR etc...) in question, as well as where they were actually drafted?

Can anyone answer the above?

 

[B Maverick]

Isn't the draft money slotted by both the position of the player (IE: QB, RB, DE, CB, WR etc...) in question, as well as where they were actually drafted?

Can anyone answer the above?

I thought it was draft slot. But VY and his agent are using the QB position to show that he should be paid better then ASmith was last year. Neither Bush nor VY should get more then the #1 pick. Bush esp. He could have been #1 but his agent screwed him. VY's seems to be doing the same except Tenn will give him the world and Tex wouldnt give Bush it all.Applause for Texas for doing the right thing.

 

[Sidewinder]

Isn't the draft money slotted by both the position of the player (IE: QB, RB, DE, CB, WR etc...) in question, as well as where they were actually drafted?

Can anyone answer the above?

It's always been my understanding that QBs get a premium (~10% or so) over other positions, but I've never heard of anything else having to do with the player's position factoring into the slotting.

 

[mozzy84]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Good luck with that! People with zero experience do not make generally they are among the lowest paid individuals in a company.

EDIT: Regardless of talent

generally is the key word, an exceptional person will be paid top of the line money in any field. Are you seriously saying a nfl first round pick has zero experience doing what they do?Sorry man I just do not get people that get worked up about another person trying to get as rich as possible.

 

[ImTheScientist]

generally is the key word, an exceptional person will be paid top of the line money in any field. Are you seriously saying a nfl first round pick has zero experience doing what they do?

There experiance is the equal to that of a college student strait out of school.I just think the whole NFL pay system is backwards and stupid or maybe its our system that is backwards and stupid.....who knows....mo money mo problems.

 

[mozzy84]

generally is the key word, an exceptional person will be paid top of the line money in any field. Are you seriously saying a nfl first round pick has zero experience doing what they do?

There experiance is the equal to that of a college student strait out of school.I just think the whole NFL pay system is backwards and stupid or maybe its our system that is backwards and stupid.....who knows....mo money mo problems.

not really IMO, a first round pick has been doing what they do for many years at a very high level in most cases. Sitting in a classroom or interning for a couple months is totally different.

 

[StuntRock]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

Yeah, they should just pay every rookie that considers themselves #1 talent #1 money. I mean, what else do teams have to do with "there" money.

 

[ImTheScientist]

generally is the key word, an exceptional person will be paid top of the line money in any field. Are you seriously saying a nfl first round pick has zero experience doing what they do?

There experiance is the equal to that of a college student strait out of school.I just think the whole NFL pay system is backwards and stupid or maybe its our system that is backwards and stupid.....who knows....mo money mo problems.

not really IMO, a first round pick has been doing what they do for many years at a very high level in most cases. Sitting in a classroom or interning for a couple months is totally different.

Maters degree then

 

[Loan Sharks]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Let's say Marcus Vick thinks he is more talented and valuable than everyone in the company(or everyone in the draft in this example), then you are advocating him holding out for #1 pick money?

 

[Loan Sharks]

generally is the key word, an exceptional person will be paid top of the line money in any field. Are you seriously saying a nfl first round pick has zero experience doing what they do?

There experiance is the equal to that of a college student strait out of school.I just think the whole NFL pay system is backwards and stupid or maybe its our system that is backwards and stupid.....who knows....mo money mo problems.

not really IMO, a first round pick has been doing what they do for many years at a very high level in most cases. Sitting in a classroom or interning for a couple months is totally different.

Not as much as you think.

 

[mozzy84]

generally is the key word, an exceptional person will be paid top of the line money in any field. Are you seriously saying a nfl first round pick has zero experience doing what they do?

There experiance is the equal to that of a college student strait out of school.I just think the whole NFL pay system is backwards and stupid or maybe its our system that is backwards and stupid.....who knows....mo money mo problems.

not really IMO, a first round pick has been doing what they do for many years at a very high level in most cases. Sitting in a classroom or interning for a couple months is totally different.

Not as much as you think.

ohh o.k. now I get it

 

[mozzy84]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Let's say Marcus Vick thinks he is more talented and valuable than everyone in the company(or everyone in the draft in this example), then you are advocating him holding out for #1 pick money?

thinking it and actually being it would be two different things, no?

 

[ImTheScientist]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Let's say Marcus Vick thinks he is more talented and valuable than everyone in the company(or everyone in the draft in this example), then you are advocating him holding out for #1 pick money?

 

[Loan Sharks]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Let's say Marcus Vick thinks he is more talented and valuable than everyone in the company(or everyone in the draft in this example), then you are advocating him holding out for #1 pick money?

thinking it and actually being it would be two different things, no?

Exactly and no matter how much Reggie Bush thinks he is the number one pick he is not.

 

[Loan Sharks]

generally is the key word, an exceptional person will be paid top of the line money in any field. Are you seriously saying a nfl first round pick has zero experience doing what they do?

There experiance is the equal to that of a college student strait out of school.I just think the whole NFL pay system is backwards and stupid or maybe its our system that is backwards and stupid.....who knows....mo money mo problems.

not really IMO, a first round pick has been doing what they do for many years at a very high level in most cases. Sitting in a classroom or interning for a couple months is totally different.

Not as much as you think.

ohh o.k. now I get it

Apparently not. Critical thinking, researching, decision making amongst others are skills that students have been doing for years in college that translate to the workplace, much the same as running jumping and catching translate for the professional athlete. Totally different, I think not.

 

[Bevo]

generally is the key word, an exceptional person will be paid top of the line money in any field. Are you seriously saying a nfl first round pick has zero experience doing what they do?

There experiance is the equal to that of a college student strait out of school.I just think the whole NFL pay system is backwards and stupid or maybe its our system that is backwards and stupid.....who knows....mo money mo problems.

I would disagree with that to some degree. Their value of top draft choices is more like a very highly rated college graduate with an advanced degree from a highly rated college in a field that pays a lot of money. Think of the difference between a mid-level college graduate with a degree in philsophy from Podunk U. and the highest rated graduate from Harvard Law School in any given year. The guys like the one from Harvard have a HUGE amount of leeway in deciding contract issues compared to Mr. Philosopher from Podunk U. who might be looking at a clerk job at Walmart.Yes, this is very marginally different than experience but it more closely addresses the situation in how you can approach potential employers.

 

[David Yudkin]

Leinart should be next . . . under the argument that he would have been #1 overall last year.

 

[Z-Dog]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Let's say Marcus Vick thinks he is more talented and valuable than everyone in the company(or everyone in the draft in this example), then you are advocating him holding out for #1 pick money?

thinking it and actually being it would be two different things, no?

Exactly and no matter how much Reggie Bush thinks he is the number one pick he is not.

Who the hell cares where he was picked? The slotting system does not determine the overall compensation available, only the first-year compensation. While the numbers seem outrageous to us, they are what the market will bear. How much money do you think the Saints will make off of Reggie Bush? Let's keep in mind that the NFL is a VERY profitable business. If you abolished the draft tomorrow, and had all college players be FAs who were free to negotiate with every team, I will bet you that the salaries for the most coveted rookies would go up, not down. And what's all this junk about GMs needing to toe the line? If you're Bob Kraft, or Malcom Glazer, or Woody Johnson or Paul Allen, a few million dollars is the rounding error in your checking account. These guys are worth billions of dollars. And they didn't get there by being bad businessmen either. If one of these guys is willing to pay $50 million for something, you can be sure that it's a worthwhile risk.

 

[Cookiemonster]

The best solution seem to me, what the Texans did. Make it throughout the top 10 picks just for poops and giggles. Teams negotiate informal deals w/ prospects before the draft, then draft according to value for $. Say the #5 prospect is asking too much, but the #6 prospect will sign for a bargain, the #5 slips down to as much as the #8 or 9 to a team that can afford him. What the Texans did was very smart, and without a league imposed rookie cap, the teams have to start protecting themselves. There is no way I could accept paying V.Young (who I'm not even confident makes a good pro QB) as much as P.Manning.

 

[Cookiemonster]

There experiance is the equal to that of a college student strait out of school.

I hate the grammar police as much as the next guy, but I doubt you're qualified to speak on behalf of college experience.

 

[thayman]

yea people trying to get the most money then can out of there jobs are complete idiots.

So your first day of work you go up to your boss and tell him you won't come to work unless you are the highest paid employee in the company?? I think its so cool when people try to use sarcasm to try and help other imature people in "the pool" think they are cool.

If I think I am more talented and valuable than everyone in the company, yes I would. Are you saying you would just take whatever offered Mr. mature guy?

Let's say Marcus Vick thinks he is more talented and valuable than everyone in the company(or everyone in the draft in this example), then you are advocating him holding out for #1 pick money?

Absolutly. You see the difference is Bush can sit out for #1 money and probably get it. If you, or I, or Marcus Vick sit out for #1 money I will bet that we will probably not get signed.

 

[Cookiemonster]

I'm hoping this creates enough buzz for the new commisioner to address rookie contracts. Its just not right for a 10 year, pro-bowl vet to have to restructure for, say $2.5 mil so that his team can sign their rookie @ $6+ mil/year - who hasn't even proven that he is not one of the 50% of those that bust.

I just don't have any suggestion as to how to do that. You could limit the amount of $ they can sign for, but how do you handle the length of the contracts or incentives?

 

[Noahs Troopers]

July 27, 2006, 08:51

Titans :: QB

QB V. Young Looking For #1 Money

Jim Wyatt, Nashville Tennessean - [Full Article]

Titans GM Floyd Reese met Wednesday with agent Major Adams, who represents QB Vince Young, and the two sides were nearing agreement on what could be one of the biggest rookie contracts in NFL history. Reese and Adams are scheduled to meet again today. It is believed Adams is seeking a deal that would be close to, if not exceed, the contract signed by DE Mario Williams, the first overall pick.

So let me get this strait. Reggie Bush wants #1 money as the #2 pick in the draft. Now Vince Young wants #1 money as the #3 pick in the draft What a bunch of crap. If Bush gets #1 money he is instantly the highest paid RB in the NFL. The NFL needs to address this issue! BAD!

Are you the reigning CEO of Wallmart?

 

[thayman]

I'm hoping this creates enough buzz for the new commisioner to address rookie contracts. Its just not right for a 10 year, pro-bowl vet to have to restructure for, say $2.5 mil so that his team can sign their rookie @ $6+ mil/year - who hasn't even proven that he is not one of the 50% of those that bust.

I just don't have any suggestion as to how to do that. You could limit the amount of $ they can sign for, but how do you handle the length of the contracts or incentives?

IMO this issue makes it more benefitial for veteran players. I'm a big Redskins fan, and what the Skins do every year is take a vet restructure his deal turning most of his salary into a bonus that can be pro-rated over the contract, giving the team more salary cap move. However what this also does is gives that player a nice fat check that the team does not recoup if he is cut. It works wonderfully if a owner, and a team are willing to pony up the cash.