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Time to put him back in the line-up. With TO drawing double coverage... Witten drawing attention (and being injured).... look for the Boys' to make it a point to get Williams heavily involved in this game.
Crayton started Week 9, Williams started Week 8.Didn't he already 'start' the last game before the bye?
I guess he was demoted week 9. Way to handle the personnel. I don't have high hopes and would welcome a surprise showing by R.E.W. this week.Crayton started Week 9, Williams started Week 8.Didn't he already 'start' the last game before the bye?
Leaving a guy on your bench, and waiting for him to put forth a good game... will only lead to you being angry when he blows up on your bench, and could have won you a game that week.As far as him being the 3rd or 4th option on the team. I think that all knowledgable football fans should know by now that those theories are pointless. If you get open, you get the ball. They will have many plays in their playbook that will have Williams as their first option for that play. That is the way it works. It isn't as if every play, Romo drops back... surveys the field... looks at Owens, then Witten, then down to Barber, then out to Williams. Plays are designed for certain players.... go with the hot read. Roy Williams will never be a 4th option on any team. Romo will get back into the pocket, and he will find the open receiver... that is what he does. Now, with TO drawing double coverage, Witten injured, and also drawing lots of attention.... Roy Williams stands to be in a lot of man on man coverage against the second best corner on the field. I see Roy Williams having some VERY good games.I'm in the camp that I need to see a good game from Roy, before he's in my lineup. He's the 3rd or 4th offensive option on that team (Owens, Witten, Barber) and I will wait to see this one play out. I can't afford to put him in my lineup and have him come up with a 2 catch for 15 yards kind of day.
Me too but you don't say whether you think this is one of them. In a 16 team league I don't have the luxury to wait and see how he does. He has been in my line-up and the results have not been pretty.Leaving a guy on your bench, and waiting for him to put forth a good game... will only lead to you being angry when he blows up on your bench, and could have won you a game that week.As far as him being the 3rd or 4th option on the team. I think that all knowledgable football fans should know by now that those theories are pointless. If you get open, you get the ball. They will have many plays in their playbook that will have Williams as their first option for that play. That is the way it works. It isn't as if every play, Romo drops back... surveys the field... looks at Owens, then Witten, then down to Barber, then out to Williams. Plays are designed for certain players.... go with the hot read. Roy Williams will never be a 4th option on any team. Romo will get back into the pocket, and he will find the open receiver... that is what he does. Now, with TO drawing double coverage, Witten injured, and also drawing lots of attention.... Roy Williams stands to be in a lot of man on man coverage against the second best corner on the field. I see Roy Williams having some VERY good games.I'm in the camp that I need to see a good game from Roy, before he's in my lineup. He's the 3rd or 4th offensive option on that team (Owens, Witten, Barber) and I will wait to see this one play out. I can't afford to put him in my lineup and have him come up with a 2 catch for 15 yards kind of day.
Not if I have accepted the fact that I will miss out on his big game. I'm just not confident with his role in the offense.Leaving a guy on your bench, and waiting for him to put forth a good game... will only lead to you being angry when he blows up on your bench, and could have won you a game that week.I'm in the camp that I need to see a good game from Roy, before he's in my lineup. He's the 3rd or 4th offensive option on that team (Owens, Witten, Barber) and I will wait to see this one play out. I can't afford to put him in my lineup and have him come up with a 2 catch for 15 yards kind of day.
I'm starting Romo without thinking twice.I'm guessing either Roy, TO, Crayton, or Miles catches a bomb for a TD on 1st or 2nd down during Dallas' first drive. Most likely play action to Barber will be used. It would be a very Dallas Cowboys thing to do with Romo's finger, all the questions about the Cowboys, the fact that it's the rival Redskins, and especially because it's on SNF. JJ may make the call down to the sidelines himself for that play.makes me consider starting romo over garcia.. before not so much.... should open the field for witten too, wouldn't ya think?
drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.CrossEyed said:He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
Considering the fact that he will have gone through 2 bye weeks, and only played about 15 snaps in 3 of his games... I don't see what would be surpising about not reaching 1000 yards this year.I think that he will be a great pick next year. After getting some experience in the new offense this year, and then getting to go through training camp. I think that he'll be a beast.Kitrick Taylor said:The hype surrounding this guy is unreal. When he doesn't come close to 1000 yards again at the end of the year, that will make it 4 of his first five seasons in the league. Yet people will be all over his jock next year again and take him in RD 3. It is great to hear he can beat out Crayton for the job though. Way to go ROY!!!!
Since week 3 in my ppr league14.825.18.116.741916.7That's a lot better than Roy.drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.CrossEyed said:He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
You have obvious hate for Roy Williams. However... doesn't comparing Roy's performances from before he became a starting receiver for the Dallas Cowboys mean absolutely nothing? Isn't the fact that he is now a starting receiver in a high powered offense sort of a game changer for his possible production?Since week 3 in my ppr league14.825.18.116.741916.7That's a lot better than Roy.drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.CrossEyed said:He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
That's certainly a possibility. But between Barber, TO, Witten, and Roy, are there enough plays to get him a consistently high number of targets?You have obvious hate for Roy Williams. However... doesn't comparing Roy's performances from before he became a starting receiver for the Dallas Cowboys mean absolutely nothing? Isn't the fact that he is now a starting receiver in a high powered offense sort of a game changer for his possible production?Since week 3 in my ppr league14.825.18.116.741916.7That's a lot better than Roy.drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.CrossEyed said:He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
Having those other weapons out there will only serve to free Williams up to greater opportunities. Considering teams like the Cards can put up monster games for 3 different receivers.... I am sure that the Cowboy's will be able to feed the ball to TO, Roy, and Witten. Barber is just there for the check down. He won't be looking for Barber in the passing game before Williams, unless it is a designed play to Barber. Also... it really isn't about the number of targets. It is about the amount of quality targets. Considerint that Witten draws great coverage, and TO will be double teamed... AND defenses will have to account for Barber and Crayton underneathe.... that really leaves the door open for some huge game breaking plays for all of the players, including Williams...who will most likely get the man to man coverage on the other side.That's certainly a possibility. But between Barber, TO, Witten, and Roy, are there enough plays to get him a consistently high number of targets?You have obvious hate for Roy Williams. However... doesn't comparing Roy's performances from before he became a starting receiver for the Dallas Cowboys mean absolutely nothing? Isn't the fact that he is now a starting receiver in a high powered offense sort of a game changer for his possible production?Since week 3 in my ppr league14.825.18.116.741916.7That's a lot better than Roy.drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.CrossEyed said:He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
Starting Lance Moore over Roy Williams this week. PPRdrop Lance Moore? You must be joking.CrossEyed said:He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
All valid points, some just love to look only at part of the story. As long as Romo is the qb he will be top 25 wr next season.Considering the fact that he will have gone through 2 bye weeks, and only played about 15 snaps in 3 of his games... I don't see what would be surpising about not reaching 1000 yards this year.I think that he will be a great pick next year. After getting some experience in the new offense this year, and then getting to go through training camp. I think that he'll be a beast.Kitrick Taylor said:The hype surrounding this guy is unreal. When he doesn't come close to 1000 yards again at the end of the year, that will make it 4 of his first five seasons in the league. Yet people will be all over his jock next year again and take him in RD 3. It is great to hear he can beat out Crayton for the job though. Way to go ROY!!!!
Not anywhere near as angry as if you put him in and he gets 2 fo 15 and costs you a game.It's different when it's a guy who's produced on his current team in the current season.....but he's NOT done that.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:Leaving a guy on your bench, and waiting for him to put forth a good game... will only lead to you being angry when he blows up on your bench, and could have won you a game that week.Rounders said:I'm in the camp that I need to see a good game from Roy, before he's in my lineup. He's the 3rd or 4th offensive option on that team (Owens, Witten, Barber) and I will wait to see this one play out. I can't afford to put him in my lineup and have him come up with a 2 catch for 15 yards kind of day.
One could also argue that the presence of ROY will open things up for TO and Witten. And that they might get more balls. Actually, one could argue that the Cowboys might throw it underneath all day long, and Witten and Barber could have monster games.Further, one could argue that with ROY and TO drawing all the coverage, Crayton goes bonkers.I'd like to know, if you don't see any drop-off for any of the Cowboys, then do you just see Romo adding another 100 yards to his passing numbers, since they added ROY?Having those other weapons out there will only serve to free Williams up to greater opportunities. Considering teams like the Cards can put up monster games for 3 different receivers.... I am sure that the Cowboy's will be able to feed the ball to TO, Roy, and Witten. Barber is just there for the check down. He won't be looking for Barber in the passing game before Williams, unless it is a designed play to Barber. Also... it really isn't about the number of targets. It is about the amount of quality targets. Considerint that Witten draws great coverage, and TO will be double teamed... AND defenses will have to account for Barber and Crayton underneathe.... that really leaves the door open for some huge game breaking plays for all of the players, including Williams...who will most likely get the man to man coverage on the other side.That's certainly a possibility. But between Barber, TO, Witten, and Roy, are there enough plays to get him a consistently high number of targets?You have obvious hate for Roy Williams. However... doesn't comparing Roy's performances from before he became a starting receiver for the Dallas Cowboys mean absolutely nothing? Isn't the fact that he is now a starting receiver in a high powered offense sort of a game changer for his possible production?Since week 3 in my ppr league14.825.18.116.741916.7That's a lot better than Roy.drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.CrossEyed said:He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
That isn't needed. To be honest... I don't think that Witten will be needed quite as much, the more that Williams gets involved. Witten was overused, because Crayton isn't good enough to be a #2 receiver. Crayton is built to be a #3 receiver. Right now... everything should be perfect. I agree that Witten and TO will also find themselves with greater opportunties for big plays. There is no doubt that will so many weapons, players will fall under the radar here and there. However.... that is the same with any high powered offense. We have already seen tough... that two great receivers on the same team can really help each other, and put up GREAT production.... such as Wayne/ Harrison, Fitz/Boldin, ect.... even Ocho/Housh, Moss/Welker.... there isn't any reason why Romo can't get everyone the ball. Especially his two stud receivers.One thing is for sure... I REALLY don't see teams stopping to throw the double team on TO. As Owens himself as said, the blueprint was layed on how to shut him down earlier in the season. Teams aren't going to allow him to run wild.One could also argue that the presence of ROY will open things up for TO and Witten. And that they might get more balls. Actually, one could argue that the Cowboys might throw it underneath all day long, and Witten and Barber could have monster games.Further, one could argue that with ROY and TO drawing all the coverage, Crayton goes bonkers.I'd like to know, if you don't see any drop-off for any of the Cowboys, then do you just see Romo adding another 100 yards to his passing numbers, since they added ROY?Having those other weapons out there will only serve to free Williams up to greater opportunities. Considering teams like the Cards can put up monster games for 3 different receivers.... I am sure that the Cowboy's will be able to feed the ball to TO, Roy, and Witten. Barber is just there for the check down. He won't be looking for Barber in the passing game before Williams, unless it is a designed play to Barber. Also... it really isn't about the number of targets. It is about the amount of quality targets. Considerint that Witten draws great coverage, and TO will be double teamed... AND defenses will have to account for Barber and Crayton underneathe.... that really leaves the door open for some huge game breaking plays for all of the players, including Williams...who will most likely get the man to man coverage on the other side.That's certainly a possibility. But between Barber, TO, Witten, and Roy, are there enough plays to get him a consistently high number of targets?You have obvious hate for Roy Williams. However... doesn't comparing Roy's performances from before he became a starting receiver for the Dallas Cowboys mean absolutely nothing? Isn't the fact that he is now a starting receiver in a high powered offense sort of a game changer for his possible production?Since week 3 in my ppr league14.825.18.116.741916.7That's a lot better than Roy.drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.CrossEyed said:He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
I'm pretty sure his broken ribs aren't healed yet.With the game being played on Sunday night in prime time:
1. It will be the T.O. show plain and simple
2. J.W. is good to go, will be the number 2 in the show
3. Roy will get the scraps
this all depends on if the Cowboys offense gets back to their high scoring ways. lets not forget this team was putting up a ton of points not so long ago.That's certainly a possibility. But between Barber, TO, Witten, and Roy, are there enough plays to get him a consistently high number of targets?You have obvious hate for Roy Williams. However... doesn't comparing Roy's performances from before he became a starting receiver for the Dallas Cowboys mean absolutely nothing? Isn't the fact that he is now a starting receiver in a high powered offense sort of a game changer for his possible production?Since week 3 in my ppr league14.825.18.116.741916.7That's a lot better than Roy.drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.CrossEyed said:He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
Maybe they use TO as a decoy and Roy gets fed the ball and also goal line jump balls???????

He needed to learn an entirely new offense. Takes more than a week IMO. I don't love ROY this year but in dynasty I'd be trying to buy, I think his long term outlook is very good.Going back to the thread title....is anybody else worried that Roy being elevated to #2 - over Patrick Crayton - is considered good news? I mean, Roy is so much more talented than Crayton that I actually find it concerning that he didn't start for Dallas immediately in his 1st week with the team.But maybe the coaches were just easing him into the system.
They announced before the first game that he played for the Cowboys that he would only see a limited number of snaps. He can't just be thrown out there and expect to know all of the plays the first week that he is there. Besides that... they knew with Brad Johnson at the helm that they weren't going to be able to capitalize on Roy Williams' abilities anyways. Roy said directly after his first game with the Cowboys that he was still trying to get comfortable, and learn the plays... and that he would be ready to go after the bye week.Going back to the thread title....is anybody else worried that Roy being elevated to #2 - over Patrick Crayton - is considered good news? I mean, Roy is so much more talented than Crayton that I actually find it concerning that he didn't start for Dallas immediately in his 1st week with the team.But maybe the coaches were just easing him into the system.
He needed to learn the new offense, most everyone does that in the preseason but Roy had to do it while playing. Its not a reflection of Roy being a bad player or a bad WR because he needed to know where to be on the field when his number was called. Roy Williams is the future of WR's in Dallas and the Cowboys gave up 3 picks to get him. They are going to give him plenty of chances and Roy will produce. I'm happy to have him on my team but it takes a game or two for a QB to become comfortable with his WR's and I expect modest numbers for Roy this week because Washington has some stud corners in Springs and Rogers who won't shut out the WR's but will limit the big play ability. Since the last time Dallas and Washington played one another the big story from the game was why Dallas didn't give Barber more chances to run I expect them to run more and use a short passing game against Washington this week to protect Romo. Dallas wins this game, Roy has 4 catches 50 yards.Going back to the thread title....is anybody else worried that Roy being elevated to #2 - over Patrick Crayton - is considered good news? I mean, Roy is so much more talented than Crayton that I actually find it concerning that he didn't start for Dallas immediately in his 1st week with the team.But maybe the coaches were just easing him into the system.
Still think Lance Moore is a joke?drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
You bookmarked this thread so you could prove a point that does not exist because you don't understand sarcasm?Still think Lance Moore is a joke?drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
I'm pretty sure zoonation was saying it would be a good idea to NOT drop Lance Moore.He was correct btw.Still think Lance Moore is a joke?drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
Totally misread his post.And thankfully I didn't drop Moore.I'm pretty sure zoonation was saying it would be a good idea to NOT drop Lance Moore.He was correct btw.Still think Lance Moore is a joke?drop Lance Moore? You must be joking.He's actually sitting on the waiver wire in my ppr league. And I can't decide whether or not to drop Lance Moore or Mark Bradley to pick him up. Guess that shows how far his stock has fallen.
His 3/36 was awesome today. But I guess I am just looking at part of the story. He accomplished in one game what it took three games to accomplish before today! Way to go ROY!!!All valid points, some just love to look only at part of the story. As long as Romo is the qb he will be top 25 wr next season.Considering the fact that he will have gone through 2 bye weeks, and only played about 15 snaps in 3 of his games... I don't see what would be surpising about not reaching 1000 yards this year.I think that he will be a great pick next year. After getting some experience in the new offense this year, and then getting to go through training camp. I think that he'll be a beast.The hype surrounding this guy is unreal. When he doesn't come close to 1000 yards again at the end of the year, that will make it 4 of his first five seasons in the league. Yet people will be all over his jock next year again and take him in RD 3. It is great to hear he can beat out Crayton for the job though. Way to go ROY!!!!
To be fair, it's his first game with Romo. As they get more comfortable, those three could become six per game, which makes him viable in PPR leagues.His 3/36 was awesome today. But I guess I am just looking at part of the story. He accomplished in one game what it took three games to accomplish before today! Way to go ROY!!!All valid points, some just love to look only at part of the story. As long as Romo is the qb he will be top 25 wr next season.Considering the fact that he will have gone through 2 bye weeks, and only played about 15 snaps in 3 of his games... I don't see what would be surpising about not reaching 1000 yards this year.I think that he will be a great pick next year. After getting some experience in the new offense this year, and then getting to go through training camp. I think that he'll be a beast.The hype surrounding this guy is unreal. When he doesn't come close to 1000 yards again at the end of the year, that will make it 4 of his first five seasons in the league. Yet people will be all over his jock next year again and take him in RD 3. It is great to hear he can beat out Crayton for the job though. Way to go ROY!!!!