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[Foureyes]

12 team redraft performance league, typical scoring, 1QB/1RB/1WR/2flex/1PK/1 team def. We have always picked numbers for draft position (pick number 4, you draft number 4). It has been proposed that you get to select your draft number based on the number you pick (pick number one, you get to choose any draft position you want; pick number two, you get to pick any remaining draft position; pick number 12, you get whatever position is left after everybody else took what they wanted).

Not sure whether I want to support this rule change or not. I've done very well in this league over the past ten years, so I don't want to change things too much. Not sure whether the new rule would level the playing field for the 3-4 guppies in the league, or whether everybody would want different slots anyway.

Question number 1: do I vote for or against this rule change?

Question number 2: if the rule is voted in, where do I want to be this year? I know that teams drafting at the top tend to have a bit of an edge (all other things equal) over teams drafting at the bottom. I think this is because things tend to even out in the first two rounds, and there is usually stronger value at the top of round three than at the bottom. Getting 3 of the top 25 picks virtually insures a strong base for your team, unless you really screw it up. I would think that, depending which number I draw, I would try to be near the top of the draft if possible. If I couldn't get in the top 3 I'd aim for the bottom of the first round to maximize value in the 2nd. If stuck among the last few teams selecting a position, I'd probably get saddled with a middle draft slot.

This strategy would work best if there are 3-4 stud RBs in the top tier, as there are this year, and then there's a drop-off in value so that you're better off getting value at the bottom of the round, rather than forcing to take somebody at 5-6 who you could still get later.

Am I reading it properly? Interested in FBG thoughts. Thanks!

 

[iSnitch]

I don't see the problem with this. Personally, if I couldn't get the top pick and land ADP, I'd want to drop down as far as possible...but I know others would rather have as high a pick as possible.

Really though, you should do away with this and go with an auction. Once you try that you will never go back to a draft.

 

[netnalp]

My 14 team redraft started this 3 years ago and it's been really popular. Two years ago we added that the teams that don't make the playoffs are ranked in reverse order for choice of draft slot (ie. the non-playoff team with best record gets to choose 1st on down to the worst record getting 8th choice. Playoff teams go worst to first for choice 9-14th). This was so teams wouldn't tank games to get a better draft pick. It's made the league more competitive and since teams not making the playoffs have something to play for still, they stay involved till playoff time, rather than showing no interest if they are 3-7.

 

[jswalker1981]

We use a "fight for the first pick" playoff for all of the losers. The team that wins that playoff, gets the first pick, and so on. Since we are a keeper league that doesn't allow any players to be kept that were drafted in the top three rounds, there is enough talent out there to want that pick.

 

[Instinctive]

Thats a great way to do it. We put names in a hat, and you get an extra instance of your name for every loss you have.

You definitely should. Some people want to get that 1st pick, others would rather draft from the 5-7 slot.

BTW, I would draft @ 6 this year.

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[Pickle Rody]

12 team redraft performance league, typical scoring, 1QB/1RB/1WR/2flex/1PK/1 team def. We have always picked numbers for draft position (pick number 4, you draft number 4). It has been proposed that you get to select your draft number based on the number you pick (pick number one, you get to choose any draft position you want; pick number two, you get to pick any remaining draft position; pick number 12, you get whatever position is left after everybody else took what they wanted).

Not sure whether I want to support this rule change or not. I've done very well in this league over the past ten years, so I don't want to change things too much. Not sure whether the new rule would level the playing field for the 3-4 guppies in the league, or whether everybody would want different slots anyway.

Question number 1: do I vote for or against this rule change? Do you want the option to choose your draft slot or not? Because, really, picking out of a hat you have no real control over your draft slot, you get what you pick. With this proposal you have the option to choose.......based on what number you pull.

Question number 2: if the rule is voted in, where do I want to be this year? It all depends on the number you draw and your own feelings about the top 12-24 players this year (or any year for that matter) and your own ability to draft value no matter where you pick from.I know that teams drafting at the top tend to have a bit of an edge (all other things equal) over teams drafting at the bottom. I think this is because things tend to even out in the first two rounds, and there is usually stronger value at the top of round three than at the bottom. Getting 3 of the top 25 picks virtually insures a strong base for your team, unless you really screw it up. I would think that, depending which number I draw, I would try to be near the top of the draft if possible. If I couldn't get in the top 3 I'd aim for the bottom of the first round to maximize value in the 2nd. If stuck among the last few teams selecting a position, I'd probably get saddled with a middle draft slot.

This strategy would work best if there are 3-4 stud RBs in the top tier, as there are this year, and then there's a drop-off in value so that you're better off getting value at the bottom of the round, rather than forcing to take somebody at 5-6 who you could still get later.

Am I reading it properly? Interested in FBG thoughts. Thanks!

I would think that if you are confident in your abilities to draft from any position (although we all have preferences) you would want the option to have a shot at improving upon your selected number. I know I would.Rody

 

[Pictus Cat]

If the guppies pick first, it is only as bad as they are.

If non guppies pick first, it is only as good as they are.

The dimension it adds is you can target which draft positions are going to get you:

1. The players you think are undervalued at/just above their ADP in your league

2. The strategy you want to use

Strategies could include:

1. Target bottom of 1st round tiers

2. Monkey in the middle, increase chances to suck up value in the middle of draft every round

3. Target best team you can get through mock drafting

4. Understand that the top picks have a sleight advantage in a serpentine draft (Look in to 3rd round reversal if you wan't mitigate)

I would target the bottom of the highest tier I can get.

The guppies you mention are probably not going to bother, and it will hurt them

Personally, the gups have every opportunity to change, and I'm sure you, me and many people would help them if they wanted it,

so go with it, and squish 'em like bugars. Good luck and God bless!

 

[Irish1995]

My league has used this method for three or four years now. I like it. I don't see any downside at all.

 

[GregR_2]

One of my leagues has used this for years as well, and I also don't see a downside to it. It takes some skill to evaluate each year's pool of players and decide the value of the different draft slots. I think letting that skill come into play is a positive.

Though we don't randomly select numbers for our selection order. Ours is based on playoff results from the previous season. Which of course means I'm almost always selecting last.

 

[fantasyplayer]

One of my leagues has used this for years as well, and I also don't see a downside to it. It takes some skill to evaluate each year's pool of players and decide the value of the different draft slots. I think letting that skill come into play is a positive.

Though we don't randomly select numbers for our selection order. Ours is based on playoff results from the previous season. Which of course means I'm almost always selecting last.

I agree with this. If you believe you're generally more skilled than your league mates, adding this element (or any other element involving skill) will only benefit you. Why let someone else just luckily draw whatever draft spot you believe to be the best value this season?