***RUMOR*** Portis to Detroit (1 Viewer)

[rascal]

Nothing concrete yet, but with both franchises being idiots I could see it happening.

Portis for Bly, Detroits 3rd, and teams swap firsts.

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthr...age=1&pp=15

 

[diesel7982]

A Skins message board has the Skins making a trade where the Skins ###-#### the other team trading with them?

Wow...thats a surprise.

That trade doesnt begin to make sense, nor would their respective front offices even be looking at these types of trades at this point in the year.

The Skins GM Vinny Cerrato might not even have a job after the season ends.

 

[ILoveMyLions]

Can the Skins even take the cap hit of trading Portis?

 

[whoknew]

Why in the world would the Lions make that trade (other than the usual Millen is an idiot responses)?

 

[TwinTurbo]

Why would the Lions trade for Portis, when they could just draft a better RB in Adrian Peterson.

 

[Getinthemix]

The message board responses that say the Skins would never do it as they are giving up too much are killing me.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Where does Kevin Jones go?

 

[mightyeskimo]

Total garbage here. Move along.

 

[x260bm]

A Skins message board has the Skins making a trade where the Skins ###-#### the other team trading with them?Wow...thats a surprise.That trade doesnt begin to make sense, nor would their respective front offices even be looking at these types of trades at this point in the year.The Skins GM Vinny Cerrato might not even have a job after the season ends.

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[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

LOL at the Skins...

They might as well trade - they certainly can't sign free agents worth a crap.

I don't think one of their free agent signings in recent years has made the Pro-Bowl....

 

[AB in DC]

The message board responses that say the Skins would never do it as they are giving up too much are killing me.

It heps that they can't even figure out exactly what the rumor is.

 

[billyjoe]

As a Betts/Portis owner, YES PLEASE!

 

[-OZ-]

Nothing concrete yet, but with both franchises being idiots I could see it happening.

Portis for Bly, Detroits 3rd, and teams swap firsts.

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthr...age=1&pp=15

At least it doesn't appear you're buying into it. Makes no sense for anyone involved. Ok, so it makes sense for Washington.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

delete this non sense homer message board stuff

 

[tommyGunZ]

rumor from the Chargers message board: Chargers may send Donnie Edwards to the Broncos for Champ Bailey and Jay Cutler, who would backup Philip Rivers.

 

[tommyGunZ]

***RUMOR***

from a Miami message board: The Dolphins may send Ricky Williams to the Patriots for Brady and Maroney.

 

[RenegadeGM]

***RUMOR*** from a Miami message board: The Dolphins may send Ricky Williams to the Patriots for Brady and Maroney.

another one from that message board: Philadelphia sends A.J. Feeley to the Dolphins for a 2nd round pick... why would they ever do that???

 

[Englishteacher]

Total garbage here. Move along.

 

[yellowdog]

Millen doesn't think any WR in the draft is worth the 2nd pick. A trade down for Jarrett makes a lot of sense to him.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Does Washington even have a first round pick. I thought they traded theirs away as part of a Satanic ritual which involved Danny Snyder, a kitana, a goat and the ritual trading of the first round pick.

 

[JaxBill]

Does Washington even have a first round pick. I thought they traded theirs away as part of a Satanic ritual which involved Danny Snyder, a kitana, a goat and the ritual trading of the first round pick.

Yes, they still have their first. They've only traded away their second (Rocky McIntosh) third (Brandon Lloyd), and fourth (Duckett) this year.

 

[Aaronstory]

That trade doesnt begin to make sense

Well, it does if you look at the front offices involved....

 

[avoiding injuries]

Of the mocks I've seen, who would the Redskins want to darft at #2 that wouldn't be there at 6?

 

[QUEZILLA]

 

[dgreen]

FYI, a lot of the people at extremeskins aren't very smart.

 

[thayman]

LOL at the Skins...They might as well trade - they certainly can't sign free agents worth a crap.I don't think one of their free agent signings in recent years has made the Pro-Bowl....

Marcus Washington did in 04. Randy Thomas got a snub because of his injury last year, and I would throw up Griffen. Those have been the best signings of the past few years.

 

[Todem]

Portis trade rumors will be the flavor for the whole off-season.

 

[brewer]

Think Danny Snyder would like a mulligan on the Portis for Champ trade?

 

[dgreen]

Think Danny Snyder would like a mulligan on the Portis for Champ trade?

No.

 

[brewer]

Think Danny Snyder would like a mulligan on the Portis for Champ trade?

No.

Really? I love Portis and all, but you simply don't trade the best cover corner in the league for a RB.

 

[Spartans Rule]

The dumbest part of this trade is the involvement of Bly.

The Lions have exactly one CB who has any business being in the NFL. Trading him could only be considered a concerted effort to have the worst pass defense in league history.

If they were going to make a blockbuster trade, the Lions would have to trade from a position of strength, like defensive line or... well, that's pretty much it.

 

[bez18]

Of the mocks I've seen, who would the Redskins want to darft at #2 that wouldn't be there at 6?

Although I agree this is garbage, being a Skins fan, I don't see them moving Portis although it would make sense as they would probably cut him after next season anyway. Perhaps Gibbs wouldn't mind seeing Calvin Johnson (should he come out) line up opposite Santana? Ideally the Skins need D help, but there are some better FAs on D than there are for Offense.

 

[jq_ballgame]

Total garbage here. Move along.

Not exactly. About two weeks ago, one of the sports talk stations (can't remember if it was 1130am or 1270am) spent a good portion of the day discussing a Portis for Shaun Rogers trade.However, the latest news (cough-rumor-cough) has Kevin Jones coming back quicker than expected.

 

[dgreen]

Think Danny Snyder would like a mulligan on the Portis for Champ trade?

No.

Really? I love Portis and all, but you simply don't trade the best cover corner in the league for a RB.

That's probably true. However, they didn't have that option. Bailey was leaving. He wasn't going to play in DC. That's pretty much why they had to throw in the draft pick: Denver knew Washington had to get rid of him.

 

[rascal]

Somewhat related:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6123101079.html

Problems at the Core

A year that began with high hopes has come to a bitter end for the Redskins, with many believing that so many changes in personnel resulted in . . .

By Jason LaCanfora

Washington Post Staff Writer

Monday, January 1, 2007; Page E01

It was to be nothing short of a re-coronation. Hall of Fame coach Joe Gibbs, one of the most revered figures in Washington sports history, had rejoined the Redskins and in his second season produced a playoff run that fell just one victory short of the NFC championship game. Predictions of a Super Bowl run this season abounded and validation for owner Daniel Snyder and his free-spending approach appeared in the offing.

Instead, Redskins fans, who have endured a 15-year wait for another championship, witnessed an unimaginable collapse. No Super Bowl. No playoffs. Not even a winning record in the final year of what players and coaches believed was a three-year plan for Gibbs to restore the franchise.

Many of the explanations for the team's demise, found during interviews with dozens of current and former players and coaches, NFL team executives and others with knowledge of the Redskins' situation, have been frequently dissected: The players, especially quarterback Mark Brunell, struggled adapting to the new offense of Al Saunders, the once-stout defense collapsed, and the team suffered from an inability to make or prevent big plays.

But at the core of the team's troubles, the sources said, were two deeper concerns: A fatally flawed personnel setup led to inaccurate decisions and Gibbs's strategy of relying on free agent acquisitions and trades alienated some players, jeopardizing his hold on the locker room.

Over and over Gibbs has stressed the importance of having players who are "core Redskins" or "real Redskins." Yet many of the people interviewed for this article, who requested anonymity because they did not want to be publicly associated with criticism of Gibbs or the Redskins, questioned whether Gibbs has ignored his own principles, being blinded by the temptations made available by Snyder's open wallet. Players said the organization has not prized the interpersonal relationships between teammates and the significance of those bonds in a game that is intrinsically team-oriented and brutally demanding.

" 'Real Redskins,' what does that mean?" one veteran player asked. "Everybody sees through that. When it comes to guys who have been here three or four years, who played hard and played in pain for them, they use that money to go out and buy the next toy. They make promises about using the money to keep everybody together, then guys like A.P. [Antonio Pierce] and Ryan [Clark] and Robert Royal -- our real glue guys -- leave and they go outside again.

"It's the same thing year after year. You look at a lot of the guys who left here, and they're mostly playing well and their teams are doing well, and we pick up more guys than any team, and we struggle. What does that say about us? It's like they're trying to build a team of superstars, or guys who are paid like superstars, and it's not working."

As team president, Gibbs repeatedly has said he is to blame for the team's struggles. "It's not personnel, it's not scouting, it's not any of that. It's me," he said in an interview yesterday. "I haven't done a good enough job of coaching. Overall, it's me. People ought to be taking shots at me. Hang it on me."

Gibbs's three Super Bowl triumphs have shielded him from heavy criticism. After a 5-11 season, however, and with prospects for a turnaround appearing bleak, his players and many around the league are taking a dimmer view of Gibbs's performance.

"We were one game from the NFC championship game, but then there's all this change," said a former member of the organization. "We're in the third year of a three-year plan, then they changed it all. We had one year left, don't change [anything]. Add a few players, and that's it. We had something, and then it's four new starters and a new offense. Why?

"It's like making a movie with all stars. It's all screwed up from a chemistry standpoint. A lot of it falls on Gibbs. He's got to take a lot of the responsibility."

The Troubles With Lloyd

The Redskins use a unique front-office structure with a scouting arm led by vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato and his staff evaluating players, Gibbs and the coaches grading the scouted players and Snyder determining the budget. Director of football administration Eric Schaffer handles the bulk of negotiations although, unlike most other NFL owners, Snyder interacts with agents directly at key moments of the process, according to numerous agents. The group eschews the draft and has shown a preference for building through trades and free agency.

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See link for the rest of the story.

 

[dgreen]

Think Danny Snyder would like a mulligan on the Portis for Champ trade?

No.

Really? I love Portis and all, but you simply don't trade the best cover corner in the league for a RB.

That's probably true. However, they didn't have that option. Bailey was leaving. He wasn't going to play in DC. That's pretty much why they had to throw in the draft pick: Denver knew Washington had to get rid of him.

BTW, the rumor in DC is that Bailey knocked-up the wife of a Washington Post reporter and that reporter told Bailey to leave town or he'd write the story in the Post.Whatever the true reason is, Bailey was leaving.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Think Danny Snyder would like a mulligan on the Portis for Champ trade?

No.

Really? I love Portis and all, but you simply don't trade the best cover corner in the league for a RB.

That's probably true. However, they didn't have that option. Bailey was leaving. He wasn't going to play in DC. That's pretty much why they had to throw in the draft pick: Denver knew Washington had to get rid of him.

BTW, the rumor in DC is that Bailey knocked-up the wife of a Washington Post reporter and that reporter told Bailey to leave town or he'd write the story in the Post.Whatever the true reason is, Bailey was leaving.

Any idea who the reporter is?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Think Danny Snyder would like a mulligan on the Portis for Champ trade?

No.

Really? I love Portis and all, but you simply don't trade the best cover corner in the league for a RB.

That's probably true. However, they didn't have that option. Bailey was leaving. He wasn't going to play in DC. That's pretty much why they had to throw in the draft pick: Denver knew Washington had to get rid of him.

BTW, the rumor in DC is that Bailey knocked-up the wife of a Washington Post reporter and that reporter told Bailey to leave town or he'd write the story in the Post.Whatever the true reason is, Bailey was leaving.

You stay classy married guy. What an awesome rumor that is.

 

[Funkley]

Where does Kevin Jones go?

Retirement.

 

[dgreen]

Think Danny Snyder would like a mulligan on the Portis for Champ trade?

No.

Really? I love Portis and all, but you simply don't trade the best cover corner in the league for a RB.

That's probably true. However, they didn't have that option. Bailey was leaving. He wasn't going to play in DC. That's pretty much why they had to throw in the draft pick: Denver knew Washington had to get rid of him.

BTW, the rumor in DC is that Bailey knocked-up the wife of a Washington Post reporter and that reporter told Bailey to leave town or he'd write the story in the Post.Whatever the true reason is, Bailey was leaving.

Any idea who the reporter is?

Nope. This is just a rumor I read at extremeskins a while ago. Several people said they had heard similar rumors.

 

[Payne]

Actually the rumor I did here when K. Jones future was in doubt was Portis for Shaun Rogers.

 

[thayman]

Think Danny Snyder would like a mulligan on the Portis for Champ trade?

No.

Really? I love Portis and all, but you simply don't trade the best cover corner in the league for a RB.

That's probably true. However, they didn't have that option. Bailey was leaving. He wasn't going to play in DC. That's pretty much why they had to throw in the draft pick: Denver knew Washington had to get rid of him.

this is the part of the deal that pretty much everyone forgets.

 

[rockbottom895]

Makes no sense at all. The only bright part in the Lions future is the likes of Kevin Jones. He is going to be a top 5 back when the Lions start winning games. So in 7 or 8 years...

 

[Hamstring]

***RUMOR*** from a Miami message board: The Dolphins may send Ricky Williams to the Patriots for Brady and Maroney.

another one from that message board: Philadelphia sends A.J. Feeley to the Dolphins for a 2nd round pick... why would they ever do that??? :(

I heard Lamar Gordon to the Fins for a third rounder.

 

[simmonjm]

Its really sad when people cant seperate reality NFL from Madden video games. Just because you can make a trade on your playstation Madden game does not mean it will happen in real life or is even plausible.

 

[DCThunder]

Think Danny Snyder would like a mulligan on the Portis for Champ trade?

No.

Really? I love Portis and all, but you simply don't trade the best cover corner in the league for a RB.

That's probably true. However, they didn't have that option. Bailey was leaving. He wasn't going to play in DC. That's pretty much why they had to throw in the draft pick: Denver knew Washington had to get rid of him.

BTW, the rumor in DC is that Bailey knocked-up the wife of a Washington Post reporter and that reporter told Bailey to leave town or he'd write the story in the Post.Whatever the true reason is, Bailey was leaving.

Any idea who the reporter is?

Nope. This is just a rumor I read at extremeskins a while ago. Several people said they had heard similar rumors.

Sports reporter or general reporter? If sports, was it a columnist or beat guy? Probably Wilbon, since he always on the road. :X

 

[dgreen]

Think Danny Snyder would like a mulligan on the Portis for Champ trade?

No.

Really? I love Portis and all, but you simply don't trade the best cover corner in the league for a RB.

That's probably true. However, they didn't have that option. Bailey was leaving. He wasn't going to play in DC. That's pretty much why they had to throw in the draft pick: Denver knew Washington had to get rid of him.

BTW, the rumor in DC is that Bailey knocked-up the wife of a Washington Post reporter and that reporter told Bailey to leave town or he'd write the story in the Post.Whatever the true reason is, Bailey was leaving.

Any idea who the reporter is?

Nope. This is just a rumor I read at extremeskins a while ago. Several people said they had heard similar rumors.

Sports reporter or general reporter? If sports, was it a columnist or beat guy? Probably Wilbon, since he always on the road.

I wish I had more clues. All I've heard is what I've said. Was Shirley Povich married?

 

[PatsWillWin]

It's a shame that this thread about a Madden trade is going to reach two pages.

 

[redman]

A Skins message board has the Skins making a trade where the Skins ###-#### the other team trading with them?Wow...thats a surprise.That trade doesnt begin to make sense, nor would their respective front offices even be looking at these types of trades at this point in the year.The Skins GM Vinny Cerrato might not even have a job after the season ends.

(except for Cerrato being a "GM" - he's not; they don't have one)

 

[diesel7982]

A Skins message board has the Skins making a trade where the Skins ###-#### the other team trading with them?Wow...thats a surprise.That trade doesnt begin to make sense, nor would their respective front offices even be looking at these types of trades at this point in the year.The Skins GM Vinny Cerrato might not even have a job after the season ends.

(except for Cerrato being a "GM" - he's not; they don't have one)

Its not his offical title, but its the capacity he operates in, no?