Rumor: Saints to Deal Bennett when Bush Signs (1 Viewer)

[MLBrandow]

Sorry that I don't have a link, but it is a friend who has a contact within the Saints organization...

He says the Saints are going to deal Michael Bennett to the Rams for a 4th rounder as soon as Bush is signed (good sign for Bush), and also that they are going to trade a 4th rounder to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

He said the Saints have been talking with the Chargers since mid-June about acquiring Edwards, who has been on the trading block all offseason.

The goal is to get Edwards in camp when it opens, which is Friday.

I presume this news (albeit rumors, and sorry for not having a link) would mean the following:

1) Deuce is healthy

2) They expect Bush in camp at some point.

3) They didn't like their linebackers very much last year, since that will give them a new trio in Fujita, Simmons and Edwards.

Take it for what it is...

 

[wannabee]

Sorry that I don't have a link, but it is a friend who has a contact within the Saints organization...

He says the Saints are going to deal Michael Bennett to the Saints for a 4th rounder as soon as Bush is signed (good sign for Bush), and also that they are going to trade a 4th rounder to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

He said the Saints have been talking with the Chargers since mid-June about acquiring Edwards, who has been on the trading block all offseason.

The goal is to get Edwards in camp when it opens, which is Friday.

I presume this news (albeit rumors, and sorry for not having a link) would mean the following:

1) Deuce is healthy

2) They expect Bush in camp at some point.

3) They didn't like their linebackers very much last year, since that will give them a new trio in Fujita, Simmons and Edwards.

Take it for what it is...

could you clarify? If not it is a one-sided deal

 

[gman8343]

I think he meant Rams?

 

[Borat]

He says the Saints are going to deal Michael Bennett to the Saints for a 4th rounder as soon as Bush is signed (good sign for Bush), and also that they are going to trade a 4th rounder to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

So Bennett will be traded for Edwards, and the teams will swap 4th rounders? Is that what you're claiming?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

He says the Saints are going to deal Michael Bennett to the Saints for a 4th rounder as soon as Bush is signed (good sign for Bush), and also that they are going to trade a 4th rounder to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

So Bennett will be traded for Edwards, and the teams will swap 4th rounders? Is that what you're claiming?

No, he's claiming Bennett will be traded from the Saints to the Rams for a fourth-rounder, and then a fourth-rounder will be traded from the Saints to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

 

[wannabee]

He says the Saints are going to deal Michael Bennett to the Saints for a 4th rounder as soon as Bush is signed (good sign for Bush), and also that they are going to trade a 4th rounder to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

So Bennett will be traded for Edwards, and the teams will swap 4th rounders? Is that what you're claiming?

No, he's claiming Bennett will be traded from the Saints to the Rams for a fourth-rounder, and then a fourth-rounder will be traded from the Saints to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

Where do you see that the team is the Rams? Am I missing something? I ask only because there have been other teams rumored to be interested in Bennett, too. But, I do think that Linehan would want Bennett.

 

[Borat]

He says the Saints are going to deal Michael Bennett to the Saints for a 4th rounder as soon as Bush is signed (good sign for Bush), and also that they are going to trade a 4th rounder to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

So Bennett will be traded for Edwards, and the teams will swap 4th rounders? Is that what you're claiming?

No, he's claiming Bennett will be traded from the Saints to the Rams for a fourth-rounder, and then a fourth-rounder will be traded from the Saints to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

How did you figure that out? I didn't even see mention of the Rams.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

He says the Saints are going to deal Michael Bennett to the Saints for a 4th rounder as soon as Bush is signed (good sign for Bush), and also that they are going to trade a 4th rounder to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

So Bennett will be traded for Edwards, and the teams will swap 4th rounders? Is that what you're claiming?

No, he's claiming Bennett will be traded from the Saints to the Rams for a fourth-rounder, and then a fourth-rounder will be traded from the Saints to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

How did you figure that out? I didn't even see mention of the Rams.

Because that's the rumor going around the Internet. I already read it elsewhere.Obviously the Saints aren't going to trade Bennett to the Saints. He meant the Rams but typed it wrong.

 

[Sigfawn]

He says the Saints are going to deal Michael Bennett to the Saints for a 4th rounder as soon as Bush is signed (good sign for Bush), and also that they are going to trade a 4th rounder to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

So Bennett will be traded for Edwards, and the teams will swap 4th rounders? Is that what you're claiming?

No, he's claiming Bennett will be traded from the Saints to the Rams for a fourth-rounder, and then a fourth-rounder will be traded from the Saints to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

How did you figure that out? I didn't even see mention of the Rams.

Because that's the rumor going around the Internet. I already read it elsewhere.Obviously the Saints aren't going to trade Bennett to the Saints. He meant the Rams but typed it wrong.

Maybe Benson wants to have a self inflicted cap hit, so he can use it as an excuse not to sign Bush? *lol*

 

[MLBrandow]

It's Rams.. fixed it. Thanks for pointing out.

It's late and my brain is fried.

But yeah.... effectively Bennett for Edwards.... pretty pro trade.

 

[AB in DC]

Why would the Chargers trade Donnie Edwards?

 

[Raptors]

Because he wants more money and has been kind of a distraction. Been out there along time that they wanted to move him.

 

[nygiants56]

He says the Saints are going to deal Michael Bennett to the Saints for a 4th rounder as soon as Bush is signed (good sign for Bush), and also that they are going to trade a 4th rounder to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

So Bennett will be traded for Edwards, and the teams will swap 4th rounders? Is that what you're claiming?

No, he's claiming Bennett will be traded from the Saints to the Rams for a fourth-rounder, and then a fourth-rounder will be traded from the Saints to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

Where do you see that the team is the Rams? Am I missing something? I ask only because there have been other teams rumored to be interested in Bennett, too. But, I do think that Linehan would want Bennett.

Linehan's famous RBBC is taking shape in St Louis..

 

[Sinrman]

I could see the Bennett for a 4th rounder. But all-pro Donnie Edwards for a mere 4th rounder?! Sure, he might be a bit of a distraction, and is fighting it out with AJ Smith, but come on... that's just giving him away. Would be huge for the Saints, and just a ridiculous trade for the Chargers.

 

[Birdie048]

I could see the Bennett for a 4th rounder. But all-pro Donnie Edwards for a mere 4th rounder?! Sure, he might be a bit of a distraction, and is fighting it out with AJ Smith, but come on... that's just giving him away. Would be huge for the Saints, and just a ridiculous trade for the Chargers.

I agree! This would be suicide for SD to give away Donnie Edwards for a 4th! They wanted a 1st rounder when he first started his griping about $$ or trade. It would be good for NOS to get him, but they better be willing to come up with a nice pick and some serious coin or he will start his #####ing there! He wants a new contract! Just relocating to NOS won't appease his coin fever!

Bennett to StL for a 4th is a blessing for both franchises. But the key here is Reggie Bush has to be signed first... and that appears to be a slow drawn out process... not likely to be resolved any time soon.

 

[-OZ-]

Chiefs fans (and Broncos fans) would absolutely love for this to happen.

You're telling me that in the same week as KC signs Law, the Chargers trade one of the best LBs in the league for a 4th round pick?

(at first I read this as Bennet for Edwards straight, which made zero sense)

 

[Sidewinder]

I could see the Bennett for a 4th rounder. But all-pro Donnie Edwards for a mere 4th rounder?! Sure, he might be a bit of a distraction, and is fighting it out with AJ Smith, but come on... that's just giving him away. Would be huge for the Saints, and just a ridiculous trade for the Chargers.

... ... But the key here is Reggie Bush has to be signed first... and that appears to be a slow drawn out process... not likely to be resolved any time soon.

Guess that depends on your definition of "any time soon". Within the next day or so ? No. But this is not going to be an entire TC holdout. Based on all the variables (Loomis' and Segal's track record, Ferguson signing, etc), Bush will be signed by August 10th at the latest.Sorry, back on topic (sort of). Interesting comments from AJ Smith about Edwards yesterday:

“I don't think he's a story at all,” A.J. Smith says. “He'll be a story in October. Right now, I don't think anybody cares.”

...

“He's not going to be cut, obviously,” Smith says. “He's on the market. What's happening, I have no idea. It only goes down when I say it goes down. I'm driving the boat here.

“Teams have shown little or no interest at this time. On Oct. 17, it all stops, and he's a member of the Chargers. He's on our football team. I like Donnie, and I like his contract. Donnie has a problem with his contract and has had a problem with his contract for three consecutive years. I'm tired of this. We're trying to accommodate him.”

...

“I'm just tired of all his bull(bleep) and innuendo he's put out there,” Smith says. “I don't want to talk about it anymore.”

But, of course, the GM will, although he doesn't like to discuss football business.

“Just shut up and play; that's your job,” Smith says. ...

edit to add: Link

 

[T Man]

While I agree that the rumor is making the rounds, the question I have is whether Donnie Edwards is practicing in the Chargers camp.

If the trade is pre-arranged, wouldn't the Chargers be holding Edwards out of camp so as not to get injured?

I believe that Bennett will be traded to the Rams once Bush signs, I am just not so sure about the other part of the transaction. I know the Saints are interested, I'm just not sure a "deal" has been reached.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

I could see the Bennett for a 4th rounder.  But all-pro Donnie Edwards for a mere 4th rounder?!  Sure, he might be a bit of a distraction, and is fighting it out with AJ Smith, but come on... that's just giving him away.  Would be huge for the Saints, and just a ridiculous trade for the Chargers.

I agree! This would be suicide for SD to give away Donnie Edwards for a 4th! They wanted a 1st rounder when he first started his griping about $$ or trade.

Yeah, I'm sure a bunch of teams want to pay more than a 4th rounder for a 33+ year old LB who wants a big contract. SD would be happy to get a 3rd or 4th for Donnie. He's old, he wants too much money, he's a distraction right now. Can he still play? Yeah. Is it smart to give him a big signing bonus? No.

 

[sholditch]

Man, that would be a dumb move by the Chargers. IMHO it would also slightly downgrade LT's value, because if they lose arguably one of the best LBs in the game and only get a 4th round pick in return, they would be seriously downgrading their defense for this season, which would mean playing from behind, which means fewer running plays in the 4th quarter.

This also seems like a really bad time to be putting that extra pressure on a completely unproven QB with a skeptical fan base. Rivers could very well be put in the position of having to will the Chargers back into games more often than not, and I just don't see that being good for his mental development. A few four-int games and that city could turn on him pretty fast.

 

[T Man]

Man, that would be a dumb move by the Chargers. IMHO it would also slightly downgrade LT's value, because if they lose arguably one of the best LBs in the game and only get a 4th round pick in return, they would be seriously downgrading their defense for this season, which would mean playing from behind, which means fewer running plays in the 4th quarter.

This also seems like a really bad time to be putting that extra pressure on a completely unproven QB with a skeptical fan base. Rivers could very well be put in the position of having to will the Chargers back into games more often than not, and I just don't see that being good for his mental development. A few four-int games and that city could turn on him pretty fast.

Obviously Marty loves the guy. AJ on the other hand is not fond of him. The story is that every year Edwards comes in and demands a raise and AJ is tired of it. Since Edwards is 33, is in his last year, and wants a BIG contract, AJ has thought about putting him on the market.AJ notes that while Edwards has a lot of tackles, the defense is designed to funnel the play to Edwards. And, the tackles are apparently coming further and further downfield with each passing year. Add to this that Smith thinks Matt Wilhelm can step right in.

I think that Edwards is not worthy of a new contract at what he wants, but it is a mistake to trade him this year unless he is a cancer. SD is a playoff team and Edwards has been a leader. But a 4th rounder is about right.

IF teams wouldn't want Edge or SAlex for a 2nd rounder, why would they want Edwards for more than a 4th. Its the same situation. The player will want a long term big pay day before the trade will go down.

 

[cstu]

He says the Saints are going to deal Michael Bennett to the Saints for a 4th rounder as soon as Bush is signed (good sign for Bush), and also that they are going to trade a 4th rounder to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

So Bennett will be traded for Edwards, and the teams will swap 4th rounders? Is that what you're claiming?

No, he's claiming Bennett will be traded from the Saints to the Rams for a fourth-rounder, and then a fourth-rounder will be traded from the Saints to the Chargers for Donnie Edwards.

Donnie for a 4th?

 

[Righetti]

what about the Burner?

 

[HMH]

Write this down:

The Chargers will not trade Edwards for a 4th rounder!

 

[Bojang0301]

If they really wanted Edwards in camp and really wanted this to happen they should have done it by now Edwards > Bennett.

 

[tommyGunZ]

A lot of misinformation floating around this thread. To clear a few things up:

- DEdwards is NOT an All Pro; he's made the Pro Bowl a couple of times in his career but is not playing at that level now.

- His tackles are inflated b/c of the 3-4 Defense the Chargers play. He's a better IDP player than he is in real life.

- He is not a leader, even on the defensive side of the ball. Over the past couple of seasons, when Charger defenders have been asked about leaders, they always mention Jamal Williams, Steve Foley, or Randal Godfrey. The fact that no one views Edwards as a leader has actually been mentioned in the local papers from time to time.

- This is Edwards' last year as a Charger, regardless of how many tackles he makes. As mentioned, he's 33, plays soft pass coverage (another reason for his high tackle totals) and the Chargers feel that 26 yr old Matt Wilhelm can step right in and duplicate Edwards' performance without paying big $ or listening to Donnie whine about money and lack of respect.

 

[Big Score]

A lot of misinformation floating around this thread. To clear a few things up:

- DEdwards is NOT an All Pro; he's made the Pro Bowl a couple of times in his career but is not playing at that level now.

- His tackles are inflated b/c of the 3-4 Defense the Chargers play. He's a better IDP player than he is in real life.

- He is not a leader, even on the defensive side of the ball. Over the past couple of seasons, when Charger defenders have been asked about leaders, they always mention Jamal Williams, Steve Foley, or Randal Godfrey. The fact that no one views Edwards as a leader has actually been mentioned in the local papers from time to time.

- This is Edwards' last year as a Charger, regardless of how many tackles he makes. As mentioned, he's 33, plays soft pass coverage (another reason for his high tackle totals) and the Chargers feel that 26 yr old Matt Wilhelm can step right in and duplicate Edwards' performance without paying big $ or listening to Donnie whine about money and lack of respect.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Why would the Chargers trade Donnie Edwards?

TommyGunz and others have covered this a bit, but I'll add my two cents.I would take a fourth-rounder for Donnie in an instant, although I'd prefer a third. I don't think there's a chance any team will offer a third, though. So far, nobody has offered a fourth.

Donnie Edwards has one year left on his contract. After that he is gone. A fourth-rounder would be signed for five years. The Chargers got Tim Dobbins in this year's fifth round. I think he is worth more than Donnie Edwards in the long term because of his youth and the fact that he is signed for multiple years.

Not only is Edwards signed for only one year, but it looks like he won't be a full-time starter this year. A lot of people in this thread are calling him one of the best linebackers in the NFL, and that is indeed Donnie's view of himself. But in reality he is the third best linebacker on the Chargers (behind Merriman and Foley). He gets stats because the defense is designed to funnel plays to him. But he doesn't take on blocks well, and last year found himself making most of his tackles downfield -- often after having been dragged beyond the first-down marker. He's still one of the best coverage linebackers in the league. But the skinny is that the Chargers will use Wilhelm in his place this year on running downs, and then put Edwards back in on passing downs. (That's if Edwards remains on the team.)

So I would take a fourth-rounder for Edwards if the Saints will offer one. But it's just a rumor right now.

If Edwards is not traded, I believe he will play hard this year. He is not holding out. He will play and then be an unrestricted free agent next year. But he wants to be traded, and the Chargers want to trade him; so if another team offers as much as a fourth-rounder I think a deal will get done -- but nobody has offered that much so far, and he's been on the trading block all offseason. So who knows?

 

[cstu]

Why would the Chargers trade Donnie Edwards?

TommyGunz and others have covered this a bit, but I'll add my two cents.I would take a fourth-rounder for Donnie in an instant, although I'd prefer a third. I don't think there's a chance any team will offer a third, though. So far, nobody has offered a fourth.

Donnie Edwards has one year left on his contract. After that he is gone. A fourth-rounder would be signed for five years. The Chargers got Tim Dobbins in this year's fifth round. I think he is worth more than Donnie Edwards in the long term because of his youth and the fact that he is signed for multiple years.

Not only is Edwards signed for only one year, but it looks like he won't be a full-time starter this year. A lot of people in this thread are calling him one of the best linebackers in the NFL, and that is indeed Donnie's view of himself. But in reality he is the third best linebacker on the Chargers (behind Merriman and Foley). He gets stats because the defense is designed to funnel plays to him. But he doesn't take on blocks well, and last year found himself making most of his tackles downfield -- often after having been dragged beyond the first-down marker. He's still one of the best coverage linebackers in the league. But the skinny is that the Chargers will use Wilhelm in his place this year on running downs, and then put Edwards back in on passing downs. (That's if Edwards remains on the team.)

So I would take a fourth-rounder for Edwards if the Saints will offer one. But it's just a rumor right now.

If Edwards is not traded, I believe he will play hard this year. He is not holding out. He will play and then be an unrestricted free agent next year. But he wants to be traded, and the Chargers want to trade him; so if another team offers as much as a fourth-rounder I think a deal will get done -- but nobody has offered that much so far, and he's been on the trading block all offseason. So who knows?

Wow, that's news to me. If that's the case then Donnie has fallen off more than I thought.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Wow, that's news to me. If that's the case then Donnie has fallen off more than I thought.

I'd been hearing it for a while, and it was in the paper yesterday: "The way things are developing, it appears Edwards, if he stays, may take fewer snaps on running downs, giving way to Matt Wilhelm, who is more likely to take on blockers near the line of scrimmage." (Canepa article.)

 

[BoltzNBrew]

A lot of misinformation floating around this thread. To clear a few things up:

- DEdwards is NOT an All Pro; he's made the Pro Bowl a couple of times in his career but is not playing at that level now.

- His tackles are inflated b/c of the 3-4 Defense the Chargers play. He's a better IDP player than he is in real life.

- He is not a leader, even on the defensive side of the ball. Over the past couple of seasons, when Charger defenders have been asked about leaders, they always mention Jamal Williams, Steve Foley, or Randal Godfrey. The fact that no one views Edwards as a leader has actually been mentioned in the local papers from time to time.

- This is Edwards' last year as a Charger, regardless of how many tackles he makes. As mentioned, he's 33, plays soft pass coverage (another reason for his high tackle totals) and the Chargers feel that 26 yr old Matt Wilhelm can step right in and duplicate Edwards' performance without paying big $ or listening to Donnie whine about money and lack of respect.

People need to read up on the SD LB's before they go saying trading Edwards will ruin the D and deflate LT's value. Foley, Wilhelm, Godfrey and Merriman is a very solid group I'd put against any 4 LBs in the league.

 

[MLBrandow]

He says part of the reason that the Bennett/Rams deal is being held up is discussions of throwing Bouman in with Bennett for a 3rd, rather than just Bennett for a 4th.

Again, take it for what it is... also, Adam Meadows to sign with the Saints very soon.

My guess is that they wouldn't want to lose their 4th rounder... but if they have an extra one, Edwards is a big plus for them.

I suppose the reason this hasn't happened yet is because until yesterday, they didn't really have much of an idea on how long Bush might holdout. Now they feel he'll be in camp.... just my thoughts, given said information/rumors.

 

[cstu]

A lot of misinformation floating around this thread. To clear a few things up:

- DEdwards is NOT an All Pro; he's made the Pro Bowl a couple of times in his career but is not playing at that level now.

- His tackles are inflated b/c of the 3-4 Defense the Chargers play. He's a better IDP player than he is in real life.

- He is not a leader, even on the defensive side of the ball. Over the past couple of seasons, when Charger defenders have been asked about leaders, they always mention Jamal Williams, Steve Foley, or Randal Godfrey. The fact that no one views Edwards as a leader has actually been mentioned in the local papers from time to time.

- This is Edwards' last year as a Charger, regardless of how many tackles he makes. As mentioned, he's 33, plays soft pass coverage (another reason for his high tackle totals) and the Chargers feel that 26 yr old Matt Wilhelm can step right in and duplicate Edwards' performance without paying big $ or listening to Donnie whine about money and lack of respect.

People need to read up on the SD LB's before they go saying trading Edwards will ruin the D and deflate LT's value. Foley, Wilhelm, Godfrey and Merriman is a very solid group I'd put against any 4 LBs in the league.

Problem is that there's not a lot of depth at ILB. OLB is loaded, but Godfrey is older and the other ILB's (Wilhelm, Cooper and Dobbins) aren't proven starters. If Edwards is traded and Godfrey gets injury then the middle of the defense is going to be questionable.

 

[T Man]

He says part of the reason that the Bennett/Rams deal is being held up is discussions of throwing Bouman in with Bennett for a 3rd, rather than just Bennett for a 4th.

Again, take it for what it is... also, Adam Meadows to sign with the Saints very soon.

My guess is that they wouldn't want to lose their 4th rounder... but if they have an extra one, Edwards is a big plus for them.

I suppose the reason this hasn't happened yet is because until yesterday, they didn't really have much of an idea on how long Bush might holdout. Now they feel he'll be in camp.... just my thoughts, given said information/rumors.

Not a bad trade for everyone involved.If this is true, the Saints are doing well.

With Brees and Jamie Martin (and Bouman in his last year) it is likely they would cut Bouman. I would think that McPherson would still be safe as the #3 since he is a project needing to be groomed.

So essentially the Saints trade a QB (Bouman) whom they will likely cut and a RB (Bennett) that they just picked up as a free agent for a 3rd rounder.

While I know the Saints need LBs, I do not think Edwards is worth a 3rd rounder at this stage of his career and knowing he wants to be paid big money. But if the thought is Bennett/Bouman for Edwards its a good deal for the Saints.

If the Chargers get a 3rd, I think they are doing wonderfully.

And the Rams get Bouman and Bennett. IIRC Bouman was with the Vikings when Linehan was there; and I know Bennett was. So they can get into the system fairly quickly. Of course if Boumann goes to the Rams, I would assume Ragone is history.

 

[Sidewinder]

He says part of the reason that the Bennett/Rams deal is being held up is discussions of throwing Bouman in with Bennett for a 3rd, rather than just Bennett for a 4th.

Again, take it for what it is... also, Adam Meadows to sign with the Saints very soon.

.... just my thoughts, given said information/rumors.

kentish_man has been right about everything else in his post yesterday

 

[MLBrandow]

Kentish_man ?

 

[Sidewinder]

Kentish_man ?

Sorry, assumed (apparently incorrectly) that you got your info from SR.com. See this thread. Like a ghost the guy rarely posts, but when he does, the dude generally has some serious (and almost always spot on) intel.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Write this down:

The Chargers will not trade Edwards for a 4th rounder!

they will be lucky to get a 4th rounder.Take it and run.

 

[MLBrandow]

Kentish_man ?

Sorry, assumed (apparently incorrectly) that you got your info from SR.com. See this thread. Like a ghost the guy rarely posts, but when he does, the dude generally has some serious (and almost always spot on) intel.

No, but that about mirrors the info I received, and the timing is about the same as well.

 

[shining path]

Why would the Chargers trade Donnie Edwards?

TommyGunz and others have covered this a bit, but I'll add my two cents.I would take a fourth-rounder for Donnie in an instant, although I'd prefer a third. I don't think there's a chance any team will offer a third, though. So far, nobody has offered a fourth.

Donnie Edwards has one year left on his contract. After that he is gone. A fourth-rounder would be signed for five years. The Chargers got Tim Dobbins in this year's fifth round. I think he is worth more than Donnie Edwards in the long term because of his youth and the fact that he is signed for multiple years.

Not only is Edwards signed for only one year, but it looks like he won't be a full-time starter this year. A lot of people in this thread are calling him one of the best linebackers in the NFL, and that is indeed Donnie's view of himself. But in reality he is the third best linebacker on the Chargers (behind Merriman and Foley). He gets stats because the defense is designed to funnel plays to him. But he doesn't take on blocks well, and last year found himself making most of his tackles downfield -- often after having been dragged beyond the first-down marker. He's still one of the best coverage linebackers in the league. But the skinny is that the Chargers will use Wilhelm in his place this year on running downs, and then put Edwards back in on passing downs. (That's if Edwards remains on the team.)

So I would take a fourth-rounder for Edwards if the Saints will offer one. But it's just a rumor right now.

If Edwards is not traded, I believe he will play hard this year. He is not holding out. He will play and then be an unrestricted free agent next year. But he wants to be traded, and the Chargers want to trade him; so if another team offers as much as a fourth-rounder I think a deal will get done -- but nobody has offered that much so far, and he's been on the trading block all offseason. So who knows?

Do you see this as a good deal for the Saints? I'd imagine that Edwards would improve that LB corps dramatically, at least in the short run.I'm curious as to how long the Chargers have been floating Edwards. If the Saints had known about the situation prior to the NFL draft, it might explain why they didn't take a good LB.

edit - "would improve", not "wouldn't improve", though it looks like Maurile is typing already.

 

[saintfool]

He says part of the reason that the Bennett/Rams deal is being held up is discussions of throwing Bouman in with Bennett for a 3rd, rather than just Bennett for a 4th.

Again, take it for what it is... also, Adam Meadows to sign with the Saints very soon.

My guess is that they wouldn't want to lose their 4th rounder... but if they have an extra one, Edwards is a big plus for them.

I suppose the reason this hasn't happened yet is because until yesterday, they didn't really have much of an idea on how long Bush might holdout. Now they feel he'll be in camp.... just my thoughts, given said information/rumors.

Not a bad trade for everyone involved.If this is true, the Saints are doing well.

With Brees and Jamie Martin (and Bouman in his last year) it is likely they would cut Bouman. I would think that McPherson would still be safe as the #3 since he is a project needing to be groomed.

So essentially the Saints trade a QB (Bouman) whom they will likely cut and a RB (Bennett) that they just picked up as a free agent for a 3rd rounder.

While I know the Saints need LBs, I do not think Edwards is worth a 3rd rounder at this stage of his career and knowing he wants to be paid big money. But if the thought is Bennett/Bouman for Edwards its a good deal for the Saints.

If the Chargers get a 3rd, I think they are doing wonderfully.

And the Rams get Bouman and Bennett. IIRC Bouman was with the Vikings when Linehan was there; and I know Bennett was. So they can get into the system fairly quickly. Of course if Boumann goes to the Rams, I would assume Ragone is history.

I think what he's saying is that the Saints are shooting for a 3rd rounder from St Louis but would only give a 4th to SD for Edwards. I don't know if the Saints have a 4th rounder to give but that's what I took his post to mean.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Do you see this as a good deal for the Saints? I'd imagine that Edwards wouldn't improve that LB corps dramatically, at least in the short run.

If the Saints need a quick fix at linebacker, Edwards will provide that. I think he's still got a few years left in him. His play declined last year, but part of that was because he was playing hurt. And despite all the grumblings about his contract, he's never let that affect his play. He gripes to reporters, but when the time comes to show up at camp, he shows up -- including to all the voluntary workouts in the offseason. He's never gotten arrested, he's never had any drug issues . . . overall he is a hard worker and a high character guy (aside from constantly griping about being underappreciated) and a pretty good player.So he's a good one-year fix. The question is whether they'll get more than one year out of him, and if so how much they'll have to pay. He's an unrestricted free agent at the end of 2006.

I'm curious as to how long the Chargers have been floating Edwards. If the Saints had known about the situation prior to the NFL draft, it might explain why they didn't take a good LB.

All offseason. They were shopping him well before the draft.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

I don't understand why the Thunderbolts are so eager to deal Donnie Edwards, the guy is a tackling machine.

 

[fruity pebbles]

So if Edwards is traded who's the benficiary fantasy wise on the Chargers defense? Godfrey? Cooper? Wilhelm?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

So if Edwards is traded who's the benficiary fantasy wise on the Chargers defense? Godfrey? Cooper? Wilhelm?

Right now, it looks like it would be Wilhelm.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I don't understand why the Thunderbolts are so eager to deal Donnie Edwards, the guy is a tackling machine.

Reading the thread down?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

So if Edwards is traded who's the benficiary fantasy wise on the Chargers defense? Godfrey? Cooper? Wilhelm?

Right now, it looks like it would be Wilhelm.

MT, I was thinking it might be Cooper. Every time that guy has played I've like him.

 

[Borat]

I could see the Bennett for a 4th rounder. But all-pro Donnie Edwards for a mere 4th rounder?! Sure, he might be a bit of a distraction, and is fighting it out with AJ Smith, but come on... that's just giving him away. Would be huge for the Saints, and just a ridiculous trade for the Chargers.

I think some of you need to re-evaluate the trade value of draft picks as well as the trade value of aging veterans who are looking for a new contract.Here's a hint: there is a salary cap in the NFL.