RUMOR: TB and Denver discussing blockbuster (1 Viewer)

[identikit]

Report: Bucs, Broncos Discuss Blockbuster

I'm reporting that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Denver Broncos are in discussions that would send star wide receiver Brandon Marshall to Tampa Bay and would involve the 3rd and 11th picks in the 2010 NFL Draft.

Tampa Bay has been looking to upgrade their receiving core, and adding a player like Marshall would help propel their offense into the future. With the third pick in the draft, it is believed that the Broncos would likely be looking at Tennessee safety Eric Berry.

From what I've been told, the teams would swap first round picks with additional picks potentially being involved in the deal.

Continue to stay tuned at Draft Headquarters for the best coverage of the 2010 NFL Draft.

http://www.draftheadquarters.com/dhqblogs/?p=677

 

[Sweet Love]

Is it just me, or are you not supposed to take a safety so high in the draft...plus, couldn't they use a guy like McCoy if he falls to 3?

 

[Cassius]

Is it just me, or are you not supposed to take a safety so high in the draft...plus, couldn't they use a guy like McCoy if he falls to 3?

A lot of people think Berry is the next Ed Reed. Some mocks even have TB considering him at #3 if the two DT's go #1 & #2. I think that's nuts, but Berry at 11, if he were there, seems like a good pick.What would rather have if you're TB? McCoy or Berry and Brandon Marshall?ETA: The thing I'm not sure about is why the Broncos would want to do this. It's nice to get value for Marshall, but who would they be targetting at #3? Are either of the DT's fits for a 3-4? They could have a shot at Dez Bryant at 11. Seems like they'd be paying a ton more at #3 than #11 and I just don't see who it's for.

 

[No Way Jose]

Is it just me, or are you not supposed to take a safety so high in the draft...plus, couldn't they use a guy like McCoy if he falls to 3?

This may be true, unless that safety is Eric Berry....Chuck Noris wears Eric Berry pajamas, fwiw.

 

[gianmarco]

Here we go again.........

 

[PewterFan]

Sources inside my head says this will not happen.

 

[QUEZILLA]

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[QUEZILLA]

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[stp-d]

Here we go again.........

that is the funniest thread I ever read!!!N

 

[QUEZILLA]

Maybe we should buy his "Draft Preview" for more inside nuggets.

 

[Capella]

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Kid looks nerdy, but I highly doubt this place is a GQ breeding ground.Would be an interesting trade. Marshall and a player like McClain or Haden in exchange for McCoy? At least you know you get one guaranteed stud (and a headcase).

I think the Broncos would still want something like a 4th-rounder back.

 

[cobalt_27]

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[QUEZILLA]

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Would be an interesting trade.

It does actually make sense...fwiw, Mark Dominick has said he will wait until draft day to pull the trigger on a trade.

 

[QUEZILLA]

"Shawn Zobel is like a lot of college players themselves -- a young blue chipper. He knows the draft and anyone who reads his stuff also will." - ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter

 

[cobalt_27]

"Shawn Zobel is like a lot of college players themselves -- a young blue chipper. He knows the draft and anyone who reads his stuff also will." - ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter

Schefter will endorse anybody, if they fork out enough money for his one-sentence voice of support.

 

[EBF]

McDaniels must have found a blocking TE that he covets with the 1.03.

In all seriousness, I would think that this move only makes sense for McCoy or Suh. I understand that Eric Berry is considered one of the best football players in this class, but look at the last few safeties picked in the top 10:

1.06 - LaRon Landry

1.07 - Michael Huff

1.08 - Donte Whitner

1.05 - Sean Taylor

1.08 - Roy Williams

None of these guys have been big difference-makers in the win-loss column. Safety just isn't a prestige position in the NFL draft. Even Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu weren't top 15 picks. I find it hard to believe that McDaniels would give up a franchise WR to take a safety in the top 3, but it would be consistent with the bumbling ways of his young regime.

 

[QUEZILLA]

Mark Dominick has also said that the Bucs are looking to rebuild through the draft and trades as opposed to FA. He made a huge trade last year with Cleveland so I wouldn't put it past him. They have shown signs that they are committed to building an offense to support Freeman so I would not be surprised if they got a weapon like Marshall for him.

My only concern would passing on one of these top DTs when it's as big of a need as WR. However, this team needs more than 1 guy so trading down wouldn't be a bad idea. At #11 they could potentially land another one of the top defensive linemen, or Dez Bryant and have 2 PIA WRs

 

[Louisville Slugger]

Report: Bucs, Broncos Discuss Blockbuster

I'm reporting that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Denver Broncos are in discussions that would send star wide receiver Brandon Marshall to Tampa Bay and would involve the 3rd and 11th picks in the 2010 NFL Draft.

Tampa Bay has been looking to upgrade their receiving core, and adding a player like Marshall would help propel their offense into the future. With the third pick in the draft, it is believed that the Broncos would likely be looking at Tennessee safety Eric Berry.

From what I've been told, the teams would swap first round picks with additional picks potentially being involved in the deal.

Continue to stay tuned at Draft Headquarters for the best coverage of the 2010 NFL Draft.

http://www.draftheadquarters.com/dhqblogs/?p=677

If this deal is true it would be the biggest screw job since the Herschel Walker trade. I would NEVER give up two top 11 picks for a head case like Marshall. Even if Marshall wasn't a headcase his talent doesn't warrant that type of deal.

What is TB thinking?

 

[BigJim®]

Report: Bucs, Broncos Discuss Blockbuster

I'm reporting that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Denver Broncos are in discussions that would send star wide receiver Brandon Marshall to Tampa Bay and would involve the 3rd and 11th picks in the 2010 NFL Draft.

Tampa Bay has been looking to upgrade their receiving core, and adding a player like Marshall would help propel their offense into the future. With the third pick in the draft, it is believed that the Broncos would likely be looking at Tennessee safety Eric Berry.

From what I've been told, the teams would swap first round picks with additional picks potentially being involved in the deal.

Continue to stay tuned at Draft Headquarters for the best coverage of the 2010 NFL Draft.

http://www.draftheadquarters.com/dhqblogs/?p=677

If this deal is true it would be the biggest screw job since the Herschel Walker trade. I would NEVER give up two top 11 picks for a head case like Marshall. Even if Marshall wasn't a headcase his talent doesn't warrant that type of deal.

What is TB thinking?

The Broncos would be giving #11 I assume, not receiving 2 1st rounders.

 

[Cassius]

If this deal is true it would be the biggest screw job since the Herschel Walker trade. I would NEVER give up two top 11 picks for a head case like Marshall. Even if Marshall wasn't a headcase his talent doesn't warrant that type of deal.

What is TB thinking?

Not to mention they'd first have to trade for the #11 pick from Denver before dealing it back to them again for Marshall.

Not sure what TB is thinking here.

 

[shredhead]

Report: Bucs, Broncos Discuss Blockbuster

I'm reporting that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Denver Broncos are in discussions that would send star wide receiver Brandon Marshall to Tampa Bay and would involve the 3rd and 11th picks in the 2010 NFL Draft.

Tampa Bay has been looking to upgrade their receiving core, and adding a player like Marshall would help propel their offense into the future. With the third pick in the draft, it is believed that the Broncos would likely be looking at Tennessee safety Eric Berry.

From what I've been told, the teams would swap first round picks with additional picks potentially being involved in the deal.

Continue to stay tuned at Draft Headquarters for the best coverage of the 2010 NFL Draft.

http://www.draftheadquarters.com/dhqblogs/?p=677

If this deal is true it would be the biggest screw job since the Herschel Walker trade. I would NEVER give up two top 11 picks for a head case like Marshall. Even if Marshall wasn't a headcase his talent doesn't warrant that type of deal.

What is TB thinking?

Uh, Denver owns the 11th pick. The trade would be the #3 pick (+unnamed pick(s)) for Marshall and the #11 pick

 

[gianmarco]

This rumor completely ruins the other rumor of the trade between St. Louis and Tampa Bay.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This rumor completely ruins the other rumor of the trade between St. Louis and Tampa Bay.

Actually it says a lot of things. Tampa needs a DT and I think Suh will make a huge impact for whatever team he ends up on, has the skills to be at least another John Randle, but more like Sapp IMHO. That said, Tampa knows there are at least 5 or 6 DT that can be had in many places of that 1st round and they have a ton of needs. If they can trade down, doesn't cost them too too much and they can acquire Brandon Marshall in the process, why not? It would amke Freeman owners exhuberant. I wonder what St Louis is really going to do with the #1...maybe they realize that Bradford and Clausen are not the franchise QB types and perhaps they are thinking DT witht he #1 pick after all...this would make TB want to trade down because they don't need a QB.

 

[Rodeojones]

Shawn Zobel AKA Identikit and a Q&A interview with him.

Darren Heitner: So, tell me again, how old are you?

Shawn Zobel: 19-years-old

Darren: There are tons of draft websites out there and plenty of people who call themselves expert analysts. What makes your site different from all the others out there and how did you get started?

Shawn: I go to the NFL draft every year. I started in going in 2004. I also go to events like the Senior Bowl every year. In 2006, I decided to start predicting who would get drafted as hobby. Last year, I started the website and did so well in my predictions that the Minneapolis Star Tribune did a story on me, which really picked up our visits. Since then, the site has become much more respected.

Darren: Where do you get your information from?

Shawn: I watch as many games as possible. I sit through 4-5 games each Saturday, I head to the Senior Bowl and NFL Combine every year to build knowledge, and then I write player profiles for every guy I see.

Darren: You talked about what analysis say about you, but what do your friends think?

Shawn: Originally, they thought it was a joke, but when I beat Mel Kiper’s picks last year, many started to take me more seriously.

Darren: Do you plan on doing this for a while? What’s your long term plan?

Shawn: I want to be a GM in the NFL. I have spoken to the Vikings about a possible internship in the past. Most of their interns are post-schooling so I’m trying to work something out. In the meantime, I am working hard to improve my resume and contacts.

Darren: This interview will be going up on SportsAgentBlog.com, a site that a lot of sports agents frequent – what should they know about your site and how can your site help them?

Shawn: It is very easy to find big name prospects. I am good at finding lower round picks who will eventually be good players. Example: Jacob Ford of the Tennessee Titans was a 6th round pick that I was very high on. He has had a great year with the Titans. Jerome Mathis is another guy I thought would be successful. My site can help an agent find those players.

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[gump]

Walk away from draft day with Marshall, McClain, and two 2nd rounders?

:drool:

 

[FUBAR]

This rumor completely ruins the other rumor of the trade between St. Louis and Tampa Bay.

Actually it says a lot of things. Tampa needs a DT and I think Suh will make a huge impact for whatever team he ends up on, has the skills to be at least another John Randle, but more like Sapp IMHO. That said, Tampa knows there are at least 5 or 6 DT that can be had in many places of that 1st round and they have a ton of needs. If they can trade down, doesn't cost them too too much and they can acquire Brandon Marshall in the process, why not? It would make Freeman owners exhuberant.

I wonder what St Louis is really going to do with the #1...maybe they realize that Bradford and Clausen are not the franchise QB types and perhaps they are thinking DT witht he #1 pick after all...this would make TB want to trade down because they don't need a QB.

yeah, it's the Freeman owners the GM cares about. Simply put, Marshall makes Freeman exuberant. KW and Marshall make one heck of a receiving tandem. Assuming Suh and McCoy go 1-2, does Denver go with Bradford? I can see it and like it

 

[identikit]

Oh, to be 19 again.....

 

[switz]

Assuming Suh and McCoy go 1-2, does Denver go with Bradford? I can see it and like it

Doubtful... I think DEN is pretty happy with their QB situation, even if fantasy GMs can't understand why they would be.

 

[shredhead]

I fear for Josh McDoosh if this trade happens. This could be the final straw that sends the lynch mob after Boy Blunder.

 

[KoolKat]

I fear for Josh McDoosh if this trade happens. This could be the final straw that sends the lynch mob after Boy Blunder.

Grow up.

 

[shredhead]

I fear for Josh McDoosh if this trade happens. This could be the final straw that sends the lynch mob after Boy Blunder.

Grow up.

Who peed in your Wheaties this morning? Sorry, so I disrespected the man, sue me. I happen to feel that hiring McD is the worst move Pat Bowlen has made in his 26 years of owning the team. Wearing a fur coat on the sidelines in the 80's during his first season as owner was a close second.

 

[Buffaloes]

 

[meanjoegreen]

I fear for Josh McDoosh if this trade happens. This could be the final straw that sends the lynch mob after Boy Blunder.

Grow up.

Who peed in your Wheaties this morning? Sorry, so I disrespected the man, sue me.

Someone's Wheaties don't have to be urinated in to recognize how juvenile it is for you to refer to McDaniels as McDoosh.

 

[shredhead]

I fear for Josh McDoosh if this trade happens. This could be the final straw that sends the lynch mob after Boy Blunder.

Grow up.

Who peed in your Wheaties this morning? Sorry, so I disrespected the man, sue me.

Someone's Wheaties don't have to be urinated in to recognize how juvenile it is for you to refer to McDaniels as McDoosh.

The Shark Pool is in rare form this morning. It's not like I'm the first one or only one ever to refer to him as that in these forums. I'll stop doing it so I don't hurt anyone's sensitive feelings.Edit: Seriously, I'll stop with the slurs regarding peoples names, let's get back to the original topic. I don't like the trade for Denver, Tampa Bay should jump on it if they have the opportunity.

 

[Peggy Starfish]

Shawn Zobel AKA Identikit and a Q&A interview with him.

Oh, to be 19 again.....

 

[Crippler]

My question is why does Denver do this instead of thinking the 14 for Brandon Marshall. Not even sure if it was discussed but they came out and said it was the 6 and no negotiationg. Could they not use one against the other to get better for the team. Is the 3 that much more valuable than the 6 in the end. Especially since I think Berry will be there at the 6.

I personally think trading Marshall for the 2.6 might be the wisest move. Some nice S in this draft and at 11 you replace Marshall with Dez.

This would be a great trade for TB in the end. Even if they gave back a 4th. Maybe they draft Dez and put him with Marshall. Their WR would go from worst in the league to one of the best in one move.

 

[BusMan]

 

[vandyt]

Only way this makes sense to me is if DEN wants Clausen. I wouldn't rule that out, but that seems incredibly unlikely.

 

[FavreCo]

No way. They aren't sure that the 2 DTs will be gone. They would look stupid trading out of #3 and have McCoy still on the board since that is a bigger need than a WR.

Of course, maybe cheap ### Glazer doesn't want to pay top 3 $.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Of course, maybe cheap ### Glazer doesn't want to pay top 3 $.

This thought crossed my mind as well, but he would still have to pay Marshall his monster contract, so I don't think this deal would end up saving the team any $$$.

 

[FUBAR]

Assuming Suh and McCoy go 1-2, does Denver go with Bradford? I can see it and like it

Doubtful... I think DEN is pretty happy with their QB situation, even if fantasy GMs can't understand why they would be.

I think you're right but I see no other reason to move up to 3, assuming the DTs are gone. If the DTs aren't gone, Tampa shouldn't make the deal.

 

[gump]

No way. They aren't sure that the 2 DTs will be gone. They would look stupid trading out of #3 and have McCoy still on the board since that is a bigger need than a WR.

We know the Bucs love Suh...but I haven't seen anything confirmed their love for McCoy. Maybe they see a DT at #11 like Price as an equal?

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

I fear for Josh McDoosh if this trade happens. This could be the final straw that sends the lynch mob after Boy Blunder.

Grow up.

Who peed in your Wheaties this morning? Sorry, so I disrespected the man, sue me. I happen to feel that hiring McD is the worst move Pat Bowlen has made in his 26 years of owning the team. Wearing a fur coat on the sidelines in the 80's during his first season as owner was a close second.

Grow up.

 

[shredhead]

I fear for Josh McDoosh if this trade happens. This could be the final straw that sends the lynch mob after Boy Blunder.

Grow up.

Who peed in your Wheaties this morning? Sorry, so I disrespected the man, sue me. I happen to feel that hiring McD is the worst move Pat Bowlen has made in his 26 years of owning the team. Wearing a fur coat on the sidelines in the 80's during his first season as owner was a close second.

Grow up.

I have grown up, why don't you and KoolKat take some of your own advice!

 

[az_prof]

Is it just me, or are you not supposed to take a safety so high in the draft...plus, couldn't they use a guy like McCoy if he falls to 3?

A lot of people think Berry is the next Ed Reed. Some mocks even have TB considering him at #3 if the two DT's go #1 & #2. I think that's nuts, but Berry at 11, if he were there, seems like a good pick.What would rather have if you're TB? McCoy or Berry and Brandon Marshall?ETA: The thing I'm not sure about is why the Broncos would want to do this. It's nice to get value for Marshall, but who would they be targetting at #3? Are either of the DT's fits for a 3-4? They could have a shot at Dez Bryant at 11. Seems like they'd be paying a ton more at #3 than #11 and I just don't see who it's for.

This trade makes sense to me; normally I discount these rumors but I have a feeling this one could be real.Not sure who Denver would be targetting with the 1.3 but could it be one of the two young QBs? I mean....they got Quinn for peanuts so that tells me they really don't believe in Orton--plus, if they believed in Orton they would have signed him to a multi-year deal this off season rather than just the one year tender. Could they be interested in positioning themselves to acquire Bradford or Clausen as the long term franchise QB?

 

[az_prof]

This rumor completely ruins the other rumor of the trade between St. Louis and Tampa Bay.

Actually it says a lot of things. Tampa needs a DT and I think Suh will make a huge impact for whatever team he ends up on, has the skills to be at least another John Randle, but more like Sapp IMHO. That said, Tampa knows there are at least 5 or 6 DT that can be had in many places of that 1st round and they have a ton of needs. If they can trade down, doesn't cost them too too much and they can acquire Brandon Marshall in the process, why not? It would make Freeman owners exhuberant.

I wonder what St Louis is really going to do with the #1...maybe they realize that Bradford and Clausen are not the franchise QB types and perhaps they are thinking DT witht he #1 pick after all...this would make TB want to trade down because they don't need a QB.

yeah, it's the Freeman owners the GM cares about. Simply put, Marshall makes Freeman exuberant. KW and Marshall make one heck of a receiving tandem. Assuming Suh and McCoy go 1-2, does Denver go with Bradford? I can see it and like it

Agreed. If this happens it would be great for Freeman and I think it would be good for Marshall. TB has no other WR target to demand looks and Freeman is a young QB who I expect will be better even in 2010 than Orton. He isn't limited to those 5-10 yard dink and dunk passes.

 

[werdnoynek]

This rumor completely ruins the other rumor of the trade between St. Louis and Tampa Bay.

Actually it says a lot of things. Tampa needs a DT and I think Suh will make a huge impact for whatever team he ends up on, has the skills to be at least another John Randle, but more like Sapp IMHO. That said, Tampa knows there are at least 5 or 6 DT that can be had in many places of that 1st round and they have a ton of needs. If they can trade down, doesn't cost them too too much and they can acquire Brandon Marshall in the process, why not? It would make Freeman owners exhuberant.

I wonder what St Louis is really going to do with the #1...maybe they realize that Bradford and Clausen are not the franchise QB types and perhaps they are thinking DT witht he #1 pick after all...this would make TB want to trade down because they don't need a QB.

yeah, it's the Freeman owners the GM cares about. Simply put, Marshall makes Freeman exuberant. KW and Marshall make one heck of a receiving tandem. Assuming Suh and McCoy go 1-2, does Denver go with Bradford? I can see it and like it

Agreed. If this happens it would be great for Freeman and I think it would be good for Marshall. TB has no other WR target to demand looks and Freeman is a young QB who I expect will be better even in 2010 than Orton. He isn't limited to those 5-10 yard dink and dunk passes.

agreed. this guy may not be credible yet, but the trade makes sense. it would definitely be a great move for both teams given their situations.

 

[Buffaloes]

agreed. this guy may not be credible yet, but the trade makes sense. it would definitely be a great move for both teams given their situations.

I honestly don't see the benefit for Denver in this scenario

 

[No Way Jose]

Report: Bucs, Broncos Discuss Blockbuster

I'm reporting that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Denver Broncos are in discussions that would send star wide receiver Brandon Marshall to Tampa Bay and would involve the 3rd and 11th picks in the 2010 NFL Draft.

Tampa Bay has been looking to upgrade their receiving core, and adding a player like Marshall would help propel their offense into the future. With the third pick in the draft, it is believed that the Broncos would likely be looking at Tennessee safety Eric Berry.

From what I've been told, the teams would swap first round picks with additional picks potentially being involved in the deal.

Continue to stay tuned at Draft Headquarters for the best coverage of the 2010 NFL Draft.

http://www.draftheadquarters.com/dhqblogs/?p=677

I don't think some of you know how high a lot of teams are on Eric Berry, the person, not just the safety. You guys should be hoping that everyone of your teams are trying to find a way to trade up for him. He is worth trading up for imo, he will not fall to the 11th pick. Believe me when I tell you Eric Berry is the best player in this draft. He can be the face of your franchise and will become an instant captain. I would be willing to bet that Robert Ayers has let his feelings be known to mgmnt about EB, and I think this senario could be considered. This draft is very deep with DL and some quality WR and DT could be found in the second round. If I am Denver, I pray this happens....

 

[BusMan]

Is it just me, or are you not supposed to take a safety so high in the draft...plus, couldn't they use a guy like McCoy if he falls to 3?

A lot of people think Berry is the next Ed Reed. Some mocks even have TB considering him at #3 if the two DT's go #1 & #2. I think that's nuts, but Berry at 11, if he were there, seems like a good pick.What would rather have if you're TB? McCoy or Berry and Brandon Marshall?ETA: The thing I'm not sure about is why the Broncos would want to do this. It's nice to get value for Marshall, but who would they be targetting at #3? Are either of the DT's fits for a 3-4? They could have a shot at Dez Bryant at 11. Seems like they'd be paying a ton more at #3 than #11 and I just don't see who it's for.

This trade makes sense to me; normally I discount these rumors but I have a feeling this one could be real.Not sure who Denver would be targetting with the 1.3 but could it be one of the two young QBs? I mean....they got Quinn for peanuts so that tells me they really don't believe in Orton--plus, if they believed in Orton they would have signed him to a multi-year deal this off season rather than just the one year tender. Could they be interested in positioning themselves to acquire Bradford or Clausen as the long term franchise QB?

A few red flags here:1) The source;2) Denver historically hasn't been very cash flow friendly to big rookie contracts, so I don't think they're looking to move up;3) Denver has addressed both their DL and QB depth charts in free agency;4) Quinn was acquired as a means to get rid of Simms;5) Clausen shouldn't go that high.