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Russian Ambassador killed in Turkey (1 Viewer)

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(CNN)Russia's ambassador to Turkey, Andrey Karlov, was shot Monday at an art exhibition in Ankara, Turkey's official Anadolu news agency reported.

Karlov began his diplomatic career in 1976 and has been the ambassador to Turkey since 2013, according to a profile on the website for the Russian Embassy in Ankara.

Developing story - more to come

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-ambassador-turkey-shot-ankara-andrey-karlov-a7484881.html

The Russian ambassador to Ankara has suffered a gunshot wound in a gun attack and taken to hospital.

Andrey Karlov has represented Russia in Turkey since 2013. 

He was making a speech at a photo exhibit in the capital when he was shot in the back. His condition is unknown. 

Three other people were reportedly hurt. 

According to local media, the gunman shouted "We die in Aleppo, you die here" during the attack.

Photos showed a man wearing a black suit and holding a pistol was pictured next to a body lying on the floor. 

Further gunfire has been heard, according to CNN Turk, and the gunmen is reportedly still at large, but special forces have surrounded the building. 

CNN Turk said there were reports that the assailant had entered the gallery with a police ID and had opened fire on the ambassador as he made a speech. A photo broadcast on TV showed two people lying on the ground in the gallery.

Turkey has seen a wave of terrorist attacks in the last year, for which the government have mainly blamed Kurdish militants.

However, Isis are also widely suspected of having operated in the country.

 
At least Trump has been unwavering in his support for the NATO alliance, so there's no need to worry about Russia miscalculating or anything.

 
I can't remember - were we rooting for the coup in Turkey to be successful?

I imagine Russia will use this as an excuse to strengthen which ever leader they want in Turkey...

 
:mellow:   Are Russia and Turkey going to fight? 
I seriously doubt it, though it's obvious the overarmed eastern Med hardly needs a Sarajevo moment.

The Turks could blame the Kurds, the Russians could blame Isis. 

I wouldn't take anything either government says as proof of anything, just as signals of what they plan to do.

 
Russia's President Putin and Turkey's President Erdogan have been increasingly friendly in recent months but they share enemies - Islamist extremists. 

Relations between Moscow and Ankara worsened after Turkey shot down a Russian fighter plane which crossed over the Syrian border in November 2015 but have warmed up again recently.

I still think Putin uses this to strengthen his relationship with Erdogan - and pushes the West out of Turkey.  Trump won't care.

 
MOSCOW, Dec 19 (Reuters) - Russia's ambassador to Turkey, Andrey Karlov, has died of his wounds after being shot in Ankara, the Turkish capital, Russia's state-run RIA news agency reported on Monday, citing an unnamed source.

There was no official confirmation of the news from the Russian Foreign Ministry, which RIA cited as saying Karlov had been taken to hospital. (Reporting by Andrey Ostroukh; Editing by Andrew Osborn)

 
That seems fake as hell for some reason. Maybe I'm just too desensitized to violence from movies.  Any footage with a little more lead up to the shots being fired? 
Not every killing is as graphic as a Soprano whack.  Although you would think there would be a pool of blood on the floor.

 
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I don't think that video confirms that was his bodyguard, I appears to show he had no security.
"Bodyguard" might be the wrong word for it, as that implies they knew him. Unconfirmed, of course, but I've read that the attacker had police credentials and that the Russians believed the attacker was their assigned security for the event. 

 
Pretty crazy pictures of the gunman holding the finger up to the sky which the gun in the other hand.  He was a policeman of some sort, chickens coming home to roost for the Russians and their activities in Syria.  ISIS gonna go after them hard. 

 
Something like "We die in Syria..you die here"  Actually was surprised given the amount of time he had that he did not pump a few more bullets into him.
This is from a Reddit comment re: translation:

Don't forget Aleppo!

Don't forget Syria!

As long as our land isn't safe you will not taste safety!

(to security guards or police) Back off!

Only death can get me out of here

Whoever has a share in this cruelty will pay for it



Attacker can speak turkish without any foreign accent, I'm pretty sure he prepared this speech before the attack.

 
This could really turn out to be very ungood on a global scale.
That was my first reaction.  But I don't think Russia wants war with Turkey - I think they want a partnership - one that gives Russia a bigger presence in the middle east - access to oil and ports.

If the reports of this being an Islamic terrorist - I can see Putin going to Erdogan and offering Russian "assistance" in dealing with Islamic fundamentalists.

 
That was my first reaction.  But I don't think Russia wants war with Turkey - I think they want a partnership - one that gives Russia a bigger presence in the middle east - access to oil and ports.

If the reports of this being an Islamic terrorist - I can see Putin going to Erdogan and offering Russian "assistance" in dealing with Islamic fundamentalists.
No I totally agree with that.  This could very well be the key that opens the door for Russia in that part of the world.  Which in a normal time in America should cause a great deal of concern and foreign policy imbalance.  Now?  I have no idea.

 
His name has been released.  He's been identified as a special forces Ankara police officer. Link
I think Sinn's probably right that this will be used to make Russia and Turkey closer and to push the USA away as an ally. The first comments on that twitter link are Turks labelling the attacker as a 'Gulenist terrorist' (the guy that has political asylum in the USA). 

 
No I totally agree with that.  This could very well be the key that opens the door for Russia in that part of the world.  Which in a normal time in America should cause a great deal of concern and foreign policy imbalance.  Now?  I have no idea.
I am more worried than ever - Trump does not view Russia as a threat.  So, he won't cast a wary eye on any moves Russia makes.

My starting point is to assume Russia is looking to gain power and influence in areas where it will ultimately hurt the US - specifically the ability to cripple the US economy.  Russia is already starting to cooperate more with OPEC, and with additional influence in the middle east, I can certainly see Russia lead a move away from the Petrodollar - which will likely have a bigly negative effect on the US economy when it comes to pass.

 
I think Sinn's probably right that this will be used to make Russia and Turkey closer and to push the USA away as an ally. The first comments on that twitter link are Turks labelling the attacker as a 'Gulenist terrorist' (the guy that has political asylum in the USA). 
And so it begins. Apparently this is Russia 24 calling the attacker a 'Gulenist' (though I can't read Russian, so who knows for sure).

Supposedly Turkish social media is full of accusations that the CIA was behind it.

 
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Just found this article, pretty interesting read given today's events. Alexander Dugin is a 'special advisor' to Putin who wrote Foundations of Geopolitics (the one that people have quoted a lot recently that states Russia should promote white supremacy in the USA, drive Britain away from the EU, etc.). From the article:

Posing for photographers with Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim, the militantly anti-American Russian academic told reporters that Putin was “proposing a strategic alliance to Turkey and extending the hand of friendship.” Asked whether such an alliance would not conflict with Turkey’s NATO membership, the man also known as “Putin’s Rasputin” responded, “That is your decision. You will decide who stands by you, who is your friend, who is your foe.” Dugin added, “You know who stood behind the people who bombed the Turkish parliament. Definitely not Russia.”

Dugin has become the new darling of the AKP for echoing its claims that the Pennsylvania-based Muslim cleric Fethullah Gulen and the United States were behind the botched coup attempt on July 15. He was invited to testify before a parliamentary committee that is investigating the incident.

But the seeds of the love affair with Dugin were planted before July. In a June interview with his own site Katehon, Dugin had already claimed that the Americans and the Gulenists were responsible for Turkey’s downing of a Russian fighter jet over the Syrian border, all part of a plot, he insisted, to send Turkish-Russian relations into a tailspin.

It did. In the same interview, Dugin also claimed that Ahmet Davutoglu, the former prime minister who was shoved out last year, had plotted with the United States to overthrow Erdogan. The duly chastened Turkish president, he said, would now be pivoting toward Russia. The next “logical step” for Turkey would be to withdraw from NATO and to become part of a “completely different Eurasian, rather than pro-Western, Atlanticist way of development.”

 
I could easily see this being a setup from Russia to stir the pot given the Aleppo stuff in the last few days.

 

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