Have you seen Jackson play? He is awful. He was the sole reason for one of Rodgers interceptions today. Has no vision, breakaway speed, or the ability to break tackles.Why you guys keep saying he is the best RB on team?I could see Jackson sharing in a 50/50 split after this awful showing
I had the 1.04 pick and I went with Moss and Grant at 2.09. ####ty picks but I should still be 2-2 after this week.Guy in my league took Moss/Grant at the turn. WHOOPS! Needless to say, he's well on his way to 0-4 today.
Because he is.The line was awful today.And lets not forget Jackson was at fault for the first INT.Why you guys keep saying he is the best RB on team?I could see Jackson sharing in a 50/50 split after this awful showing
More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
you've got to be kidding. Your in more denial about a player then i've ever seen on these boards.NOBODY who has watched the games this year would say anything other then he's looked horrible. Out of 100's of Packer fans i've talked to the one thing we all agree on is that Grant has been bad, very bad. There is no two ways about it.Quit putting the blame on everything else, he might turn it around, but no one in their right mind wouldn't admit he's looked horrendous so far.More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
You know I was one who thought Grant would come down to earth this season...but in all fairness I don't think a proper evaluation can be made yet. He has not been healthy. 2 more weeks of this then yes....stick a fork in him on having anything resembling the season a lot of people were hoping for.More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
Exactly...2 more weeks of this then we know who we thought Grant was.But those who want to crown him still go right ahead.He looked terrible this game but this is the first game he's been healthy.
I don't know what game you were watching today but the defensive line was in the backfield 90% of the day. ANY RB today would have had a bad day.you've got to be kidding. Your in more denial about a player then i've ever seen on these boards.NOBODY who has watched the games this year would say anything other then he's looked horrible. Out of 100's of Packer fans i've talked to the one thing we all agree on is that Grant has been bad, very bad. There is no two ways about it.Quit putting the blame on everything else, he might turn it around, but no one in their right mind wouldn't admit he's looked horrendous so far.More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
Fluke.Chris Brown version 2.0.
Grant missed a lot of cutback lanes, even the announcers kept pointing it out.Most top RB's would have seen those lanes, Grant has no vision.I don't know what game you were watching today but the defensive line was in the backfield 90% of the day. ANY RB today would have had a bad day.you've got to be kidding. Your in more denial about a player then i've ever seen on these boards.NOBODY who has watched the games this year would say anything other then he's looked horrible. Out of 100's of Packer fans i've talked to the one thing we all agree on is that Grant has been bad, very bad. There is no two ways about it.Quit putting the blame on everything else, he might turn it around, but no one in their right mind wouldn't admit he's looked horrendous so far.More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
Keep spouting untruths and i will keep responding...he did not look horrible against minny or dallas...sorry...that is just not true.Blame everything else?I blame who should be blamed at times.He did not look good today...though, he was also hit in the backfield often and the line play has been pretty damn bad at times this year. Maybe you should watch football rather than just looking at box scores.100s of Packer fans you have talked to? I doubt you have talked to more than 2.moderated said:you've got to be kidding. Your in more denial about a player then i've ever seen on these boards.NOBODY who has watched the games this year would say anything other then he's looked horrible. Out of 100's of Packer fans i've talked to the one thing we all agree on is that Grant has been bad, very bad. There is no two ways about it.Quit putting the blame on everything else, he might turn it around, but no one in their right mind wouldn't admit he's looked horrendous so far.sho nuff said:More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.moderated said:Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
Shocking you would agree with one of the worst posts in this thread.moderated said:EBF said:Fluke.Chris Brown version 2.0.
There were few lanes...and its hard to cut back when you are getting hit behind the line often.Oh...and that is one of Grant's biggest assets and his huge advantage over Jackson...Jackson has had trouble even seeing a lane while Grant has excelled.I simply don't think you have much a clue when it comes to GRant.moderated said:Grant missed a lot of cutback lanes, even the announcers kept pointing it out.Most top RB's would have seen those lanes, Grant has no vision.Challenge Everything said:I don't know what game you were watching today but the defensive line was in the backfield 90% of the day. ANY RB today would have had a bad day.moderated said:you've got to be kidding. Your in more denial about a player then i've ever seen on these boards.NOBODY who has watched the games this year would say anything other then he's looked horrible. Out of 100's of Packer fans i've talked to the one thing we all agree on is that Grant has been bad, very bad. There is no two ways about it.Quit putting the blame on everything else, he might turn it around, but no one in their right mind wouldn't admit he's looked horrendous so far.sho nuff said:More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.moderated said:Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
Wrong awnser! Grant has BUUUUUST written all over him. He looks terrible and that putting it politely.. He had one big run vs Minny otherwise his first 4 games he looks slow, no vision and just plain lost. He is Kevin Jones from years past strong second half the his true colors come out the following season. I would rather have Chris Perry!sho nuff said:More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.moderated said:Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
Wow, you just don't get it. The announcers showed one play where Grant could have possibly cut back. What they failed to do on that play is show how far the line was upfield on the play. Grant cuts back on that play and he runs right into the DE. I believe you are a stat reader and watch a few plays of each game every week.moderated said:Grant missed a lot of cutback lanes, even the announcers kept pointing it out.Most top RB's would have seen those lanes, Grant has no vision.Challenge Everything said:I don't know what game you were watching today but the defensive line was in the backfield 90% of the day. ANY RB today would have had a bad day.moderated said:you've got to be kidding. Your in more denial about a player then i've ever seen on these boards.NOBODY who has watched the games this year would say anything other then he's looked horrible. Out of 100's of Packer fans i've talked to the one thing we all agree on is that Grant has been bad, very bad. There is no two ways about it.Quit putting the blame on everything else, he might turn it around, but no one in their right mind wouldn't admit he's looked horrendous so far.sho nuff said:More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.moderated said:Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
yesMoe Green said:Who watched the game today? Did GB totally abandon the run?
he looks like a guy recovering from a hamstring injurythe first 4 plays were runs by Grant. he ran with authority and lowered the boom on one of the runs. the Packers then proceeded to throw like crazy and then run stretch plays against a Tampa defense predicated on pursuing sideline to sideline.the run blocking scheme is designed to stretch the D and have the RB cutback. there were no cutback lanes available today.. Tampa is just too fast and the line played like complete ####.Wells is playing for the first time since last year and Colledge is a horrible ####ing lineman. weeks 1-3 the line featured Tony Moll who shouldn't be anywhere near an NFL roster and Spitz playing center, though he's a guard.Grant looks fine. McCarthy is just not utilizing him as he should. understandable in that he doesn't want to lose him for the season because he over-used him early.i suspect Grant will get healthier and they will run more.moderated said:you've got to be kidding. Your in more denial about a player then i've ever seen on these boards.NOBODY who has watched the games this year would say anything other then he's looked horrible. Out of 100's of Packer fans i've talked to the one thing we all agree on is that Grant has been bad, very bad. There is no two ways about it.Quit putting the blame on everything else, he might turn it around, but no one in their right mind wouldn't admit he's looked horrendous so far.sho nuff said:More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.moderated said:Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
but a good effort for people not watching the game. Siragusa mentioned a missed cutback lane on one play.there were no holes.Grant's strength is his one-cut vision. which is why he started last year, played well and looked good doing it.moderated said:Grant missed a lot of cutback lanes, even the announcers kept pointing it out.Most top RB's would have seen those lanes, Grant has no vision.Challenge Everything said:I don't know what game you were watching today but the defensive line was in the backfield 90% of the day. ANY RB today would have had a bad day.moderated said:you've got to be kidding. Your in more denial about a player then i've ever seen on these boards.NOBODY who has watched the games this year would say anything other then he's looked horrible. Out of 100's of Packer fans i've talked to the one thing we all agree on is that Grant has been bad, very bad. There is no two ways about it.Quit putting the blame on everything else, he might turn it around, but no one in their right mind wouldn't admit he's looked horrendous so far.sho nuff said:More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.moderated said:Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
for what?With Lumpkin banged up I wonder if they would consider bring Deshawn Wynn back. He looked halfway decent last year prior to the injury.
To run the ball. Grant has not looked good. Whether that be due to injury, Mcarthy turning away from the run, or whatever. GB needs to run the ball and take the pressure off of Rodgers.for what?With Lumpkin banged up I wonder if they would consider bring Deshawn Wynn back. He looked halfway decent last year prior to the injury.
Wynn can't stay healthy and if McCarthy isn't going to run the ball then having him on the roster accomplishes nothingTo run the ball. Grant has not looked good. Whether that be due to injury, Mcarthy turning away from the run, or whatever. GB needs to run the ball and take the pressure off of Rodgers.for what?With Lumpkin banged up I wonder if they would consider bring Deshawn Wynn back. He looked halfway decent last year prior to the injury.
Wait...I thought his lack of pedigree doesn't matter. I thought he was going to run for 1500 yards and be an elite RB this season. Oops...sho nuff said:More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.moderated said:Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
HAHA. I played this delusional game for a bit, until I realized Grant has basically cost me my season in the 14 team league I have him in. Drafted late in the 2nd to be my second rb, behind SJax. Due to it being a 14 team league that is fairly TD heavy, only depth I got behind him is Selvin Young. Actually started Selvin week 1, where he scored a td, yet fell by 2 pts. Weeks 2-4, I have lost by small margins, with my second rb, 2nd round pick, basically laying a goose egg. Sjax hasn't helped either, but to take it back to your comment, there is no getting worse than this because season is over. BuhBye. I'd think many a grant owners are in the same boat, unless its a 10 or less team league where he's your 3rd rb...morris4903 said:Only good news for Grant owners:Can't get much worse than now.Still the best RB on the team without a doubt.Will continue to recover from hamstring injury. I still think he will be valuable once the weather gets colder.
Darn it... the season ended today. It is only week 4 too. Going to be a long off season.Wait...I thought his lack of pedigree doesn't matter. I thought he was going to run for 1500 yards and be an elite RB this season. Oops...sho nuff said:More nonsense.Looked bad all year?He looked fine against Minny, and in the carries he actually got against Dallas he looked fine too.You simply don't deal in facts when it comes to Grant.moderated said:Grant has looked very bad all year. He's a huge weakness for the Packers right now. Give Jackson or Lumpkin a shot, Grant is useless and not even serviceable.
I have the same first two picks. I am 1-3. A brutal start to a long and lousy season.Raider Nation said:Guy in my league took Moss/Grant at the turn. WHOOPS! Needless to say, he's well on his way to 0-4 today.
errrHAHA. I played this delusional game for a bit, until I realized Grant has basically cost me my season in the 14 team league