I remember rotoworld putting him #3 overall I believe and hyping him as the guy who will win the most fantasy titles. I bought in completely, I mean he finished #7 in less than a full season when splitting time! what a huge fall and I honestly think he still has the talent just not quite sure if there's some behind the scenes things where he now gets used so little
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Ryan Matthews owners. Have you cut bait or are you holding? (1 Viewer)
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LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
Can't believe I started this idiot over Spiller this week.
This move will most likely cost me a win, fml.
This move will most likely cost me a win, fml.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
RGIII HTTR
Footballguy
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
so concussion huh. When will we know how many weeks he is out?
tdhartis
Footballguy
I'm no expert, but the fall/hit causing the injury didn't seem like it would have created a high-degree concussion. I wouldn't be surprised if he were back next week. That being said, I'm disappointing this happened as he was coming off a decent game in Week 3 where he went over 100yds from scrimmage and I was hopeful it would lead to a bigger role this week. I've been trying to sell him wherever I can the last couple weeks, but have had no success.
He's not waiver fodder unless you're in less than 12 man leagues, and he's not start-worthy until something gives (e.g. injury to Woodhead/Brown). However, he is moving his way up list of first player gone if that keeps up.
He's not waiver fodder unless you're in less than 12 man leagues, and he's not start-worthy until something gives (e.g. injury to Woodhead/Brown). However, he is moving his way up list of first player gone if that keeps up.
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
I'm holding him just because I picked up Woodhead after week one to back him up. This past week was the first I pulled him out for Woodhead (Danny played in my flex the past couple of weeks). I could see if I owned just Matthews how I would want to drop him.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
schelp rock.
RGIII HTTR
Footballguy
All great points!!! I have been trying to package him in basically everything I've offered others, even as just a throw in...nada! Pretty sure all Matthews owners have same experience. I was hoping 2 good showings in a row would change that, but the dreaded concussion came to zap that...he is boarding the "I will cut him if I have to get someone to cover a bye week" though.
Agree with all this just not sure something did not already give with the bolded part. In week 4 Brown only got 5 offensive snaps and it looked to me like they were moving to more of a 2 headed RBBC instead of a 3 headed one.
Can't tell from last nights game if week 4 was a sign of things to come or an anomaly because even if Mathews had not got concussed last night it looked like he was in for a low workload, which I assume had something to do with him getting added to injury report Friday with the hamstring.
grateful zed
Footballguy
i was helping a noob friend draft last year and we took too long with our first pick, #6 and the site autopicked Mattews for us. the rest of the draft went fine but i know he was doomed.
Wise Old Owl
Footballguy
He has the talent, you don't go in the first and have 1400 yds in 14 games without it, but yeah his injuries and now his utilization by his coaches are crippling any fantasy value he might have. I'd love to see them stop using Brown and keep Mathews in on some passing downs/play action so its not so painfully obvious that they are going to run when hes in.
tdhartis
Footballguy
In Week 4, Brown only had one carry IIRC and seemed on his way to being phased out. Whether that was actually the case was made uncertain by Mathew's injury in Week 5. Like you've described, he is in a similar situation to Ingram the past few years where he is only in on obvious run situations, and as a result the defense stacks the box against him or is at least prepared for the run. In this case Woodhead plays the role of Sproles.
Keep in mind the OC is Ken Whisenhunt who murdered the fantasy value of the RBs in Arizona the past few years using similar tactics. That signals to me the situation isn't going to change anytime soon, if ever.
RGIII HTTR
Footballguy
After last night, I am seriously thinking of dropping this guy for B. Jacobs at this point.
It was good to see him get a heavy workload, but his usage is criminal. In the first quarter the safety blatantly jogged up before the snap and hit him in the backfield unblocked. I guess that's why the play action works so damn well when he's in the game.
Why the f*** Woodhead was getting carries on 1st and goal at the 10 is simply beyond me.
Why the f*** Woodhead was getting carries on 1st and goal at the 10 is simply beyond me.
He had 100+ yds. He's not being used that much but he looked very good out there, don't know why anyone would drop him at this point.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
I certainly hope thats the trend and not just a fluke game. I have held him all this time so it would be nice if that paid off now that Spiller and Chris Johnson are struggling
Shutout
Footballguy
Looked like the best guy on the field last night. I agree with FF Ninja, the USE (or non-use) of this guy is criminal. Put him on the Niners, Texans, Rams, or some other team as the clear RB and he would easily be a top 12-15 RB with upside.
Irony is probably the wrong word to use here but for the 1st tiem, he is healthy and running with power and explosiveness and for whatever reason I am seeing Danny Woodhead and Ronnie Brown on the filed as much as Matthews. Disgusting. I get the idea with Woodhead but do it the right way. Use him as a sawed-off version of Sproles or Welker but don't line him up 7 yards deep in the Straight I formation.
Irony is probably the wrong word to use here but for the 1st tiem, he is healthy and running with power and explosiveness and for whatever reason I am seeing Danny Woodhead and Ronnie Brown on the filed as much as Matthews. Disgusting. I get the idea with Woodhead but do it the right way. Use him as a sawed-off version of Sproles or Welker but don't line him up 7 yards deep in the Straight I formation.
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Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Woodhead use is a joke as well. I couldnt believe they actually tried running him up the gut from the 10 yard line with a back like Mathews on the sideline. The play went nowhere which was to be expected. Dude has no push or power.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Exactly.....that's not Woodhead's game. He does run hard though. But you use Woodhead in space just like Sproles.
If you have Woodhead in the game inside the 10, you better be spreading the formation.
That said, Mathews looked very good. Hopefully SD coaching staff figured that out.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Well, he does have decent power if you are talking about a game between the smurfs v. lilliputians.
RGIII HTTR
Footballguy
Well my cooler head prevailed and I never dropped him. Realized that the frustration was just shinning through and needed to step back. Whew!
Just acquired him and was pleased with what I saw last night. Woodhead looked quick and effective last night....although I was encouraged by two things that I saw....First, Woodhead got blasted by a blitzing linebacker who sacked Rivers. And second, when the Chargers had to run the ball at the end of the game, and everyone in the stadium knew it was a run - Matthews got the ball....and ran with power while picking up very critical first downs.
I think he is a fine rb2 and if he can get on the field, even a little more, his value will skyrocket.
I think he is a fine rb2 and if he can get on the field, even a little more, his value will skyrocket.
Sarnoff
Footballguy
you are probably right, a decent chance at stringing two good games together... good point!
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
Why sell?
He looks great and is a free agent comming at season end.
He has looked really good to me.
He looks great and is a free agent comming at season end.
He has looked really good to me.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Mathews is literally the epitome as to why opportunity trumps talent for fantasy purposes. The dude has RB1 upside and that's clearly undeniable. The fact that a guy like Powell who is admittedly "just a guy" will likely be consistently more productive than Mathews moving forward (in PPR with Goodson going down) is a testament to this.
It was good to see that SD has the ability to control the game/TOP when the match-up calls for it but I still envision quite a few games where Rivers will have to sling it, or they'll be in hurry up mode and Woodhead will be "the guy".
If he can stay healthy, I REALLY want to see him on a team that features him in the future.
It was good to see that SD has the ability to control the game/TOP when the match-up calls for it but I still envision quite a few games where Rivers will have to sling it, or they'll be in hurry up mode and Woodhead will be "the guy".
If he can stay healthy, I REALLY want to see him on a team that features him in the future.
T with T
Footballguy
yea thing about Matthews, he looked good out there but he gets no GL and he get's no catches... that's death for ppr fantasy.... Woodhead,gio,ellington,sproles can all be studs while guys like shonn greene, matthews, ingram, beenie turner all suck cuz of no WR ability. Until matthews gets some 3rd down work he is garbage in ppr...Breesisdaman said:
sbonomo
Footballguy
Here is my luck: Mathews to the Raiders, McFadden to the chargers. That would be about par for the course with my dynasty league.
Breesisdaman
Footballguy
Both of those guys Randle and Jacob are on Waivers (redraft) No way am dropping Mathews for them. I am dropping Dwayne Bowe for them. If my only choice was Mathews they would stay on waivers or someone else would grab them. They are not in a permanent situation to continue their production for one thing.
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