Ryan Williams (1 Viewer)

[eefflrat]

So it's basically Williams And Powell , so it appears that Williams is likely to see about 20 touches. He can catch the ball out of the backfield as well, so why not start him confidently? Miami defense is ranked 1st against the run, but is that a product of the fact that Miami is almost last against the pass so teams just air it out on them?

Who is starting him today, and over who.

Thanks guys

 

[mr roboto]

I've got to decide between him, FJax and R Bush.

Right now I have him in but I'm not super confident.

 

[Buffaloes]

not exactly confident, but he's in over DWill, Pierre Thomas, & Ingram

 

[Apple Juice]

Waffled between Williams and McGahee but decided on McGahee.

I think Williams will hover around 70 yards. I think it's going to be a low scoring game so he'll get plenty of carries but it'll be a grind.

 

[cpd90]

I'm going back and forth between Williams and Morris. PPR so I think I'm gonna roll with Williams.

 

[whitem0nkey]

over

Jackson, Steven STL RB

Spiller, C.J. BUF RB

Thomas, Pierre NOS RB

 

[SameSongNDance]

You cannot really flex him with confidence, but you can flex him based of the volume of reps he should receive. I wouldn't feel extremely comfortable about it, no. I envision a 18-20/60-70 stat line to go along with 2-3 receptions for 10-20 yards.

 

[Tree Shaker]

I'm back and forth between LeShoure and Williams. LeShoure's groin injury is worrisome, and there are several DET backs to plug in if it tightens up on him during the game. Williams, on the other hand, has Beanie out and LaRod Stephens-Howling doubtful for the game. I guess it will come down to how risk averse I am; losing Spiller in Q1 last week doomed my team, so I'm leaning toward Williams to get a big workload.

 

[Man In The Box]

Flexing without confidence over Nate Washington, Hankerson, Daniel Thomas/Lamar Miller.

 

[eefflrat]

I'm going back and forth between Williams and Morris. PPR so I think I'm gonna roll with Williams.

This is one guy I am debating him over in a PPR, but it looks like no one is really trusting him enough to start him as a rb 2, at best he's getting flex consideration.

 

[plymkr]

With britt out nate wash may be a good play.

 

[Man In The Box]

With britt out nate wash may be a good play.

Already starting Nate in another league, so Hedging a bit with Williams. I'm also a sucker for RB's expected to see a high volume of touches.

 

[damageinc]

Starting him over m bush chris Johnson but hard to have confidence. He has not really done anything yet going up against a tough run D. But today's a chance for him to start some stats that can give confidence.

 

[cubbie5150]

Waffled between Williams and McGahee but decided on McGahee.I think Williams will hover around 70 yards. I think it's going to be a low scoring game so he'll get plenty of carries but it'll be a grind.

Same here. Gonna roll the dice w/ McGahee & his bum ribs.

 

[the spanker]

Down to him and Colston. As stated above I love that he's gonna get the touches but Colston will probably be in a shootout with Greenbay.

Problem is, can Brees get the ball down field against the Pack defensive rush?

 

[doeseatplace]

You cannot really flex him with confidence, but you can flex him based of the volume of reps he should receive. I wouldn't feel extremely comfortable about it, no. I envision a 18-20/60-70 stat line to go along with 2-3 receptions for 10-20 yards.

Agreed. volume, volume, volume

 

[Raider Nation]

not exactly confident, but he's in over DWill, Pierre Thomas, & Ingram

I gave Pierre Thomas the start over Williams today (PPR). Miami's run defense is shockingly stingy.

 

[Buffaloes]

not exactly confident, but he's in over DWill, Pierre Thomas, & Ingram

I gave Pierre Thomas the start over Williams today (PPR). Miami's run defense is shockingly stingy.

Lucky Pierre will probably be the right play. I have that uncanny ability of choosing the wrong RB out of these guys (and Hillis).

 

[Raider Nation]

not exactly confident, but he's in over DWill, Pierre Thomas, & Ingram

I gave Pierre Thomas the start over Williams today (PPR). Miami's run defense is shockingly stingy.

Lucky Pierre will probably be the right play. I have an uncanny way of choosing the wrong RB out of these guys (and Hillis).

It's just common sense. The Packers should have the lead most of the game. When the Saints trail, Thomas plays more than Ingram.

 

[trout]

starting Williams over Leshoure, McGahee, and Chris Johnson

 

[renesauz]

As the last player starting...a second flex?

Could do a lot worse. Not excited, but as a bye week flex he's more than adequate.

 

[Reepicheep]

With Nicks out and byes starting, I'm flexing him in over basically nobody (JStew and quizz).

 

[BearDown54]

i got him in my flex over holmes and hawkins just based purely on volume

 

[jurb26]

Starting him with confidence in a 32 man league. I literally have no choice...

 

[Instinctive]

Played him over Torrey...so yeah, I had some confidence. <_<

Tough not to start guys who are slated to have 20+ touches.

 

[RBM]

Played him over Torrey...so yeah, I had some confidence. <_< Tough not to start guys who are slated to have 20+ touches.

Where are you seeing the 20+ touches thing?

 

[cpd90]

Played him over Torrey...so yeah, I had some confidence. <_< Tough not to start guys who are slated to have 20+ touches.

Where are you seeing the 20+ touches thing?

LSH and Wells both out. He's basically splitting carries with Powell and most are expecting an 80/20 split. 15+ carries and 3-5 receptions is what I'm projecting.

 

[cpd90]

I'm going back and forth between Williams and Morris. PPR so I think I'm gonna roll with Williams.

Oof. I think this might cost me my matchup.

 

[Instinctive]

Played him over Torrey...so yeah, I had some confidence. <_< Tough not to start guys who are slated to have 20+ touches.

Where are you seeing the 20+ touches thing?

LSH and Wells both out. He's basically splitting carries with Powell and most are expecting an 80/20 split. 15+ carries and 3-5 receptions is what I'm projecting.

I typically assume that when a guy is the only viable back and he is a receiving weapon, 20 touches is about right.Of course, I forget to include that I'm not the actual coach. So sometimes 20 is really 10. Ugh.

 

[cpd90]

Played him over Torrey...so yeah, I had some confidence. <_< Tough not to start guys who are slated to have 20+ touches.

Where are you seeing the 20+ touches thing?

LSH and Wells both out. He's basically splitting carries with Powell and most are expecting an 80/20 split. 15+ carries and 3-5 receptions is what I'm projecting.

I typically assume that when a guy is the only viable back and he is a receiving weapon, 20 touches is about right.Of course, I forget to include that I'm not the actual coach. So sometimes 20 is really 10. Ugh.

Same. Looks like both of us made a *thud* move.

 

[Reepicheep]

Well Kolb had 48 pass attempts. I guess that tells us all we need to know about how the coaches feel about the run game. Brutal.

 

[cpd90]

Well Kolb had 48 pass attempts. I guess that tells us all we need to know about how the coaches feel about the run game. Brutal.

At this point, I don't think there's enough evidence to say that the coaches feel a certain way about the run game and Williams in particular. MIA is one of the top teams against the run and it's certainly within the realm of possibility that this was just a specific game plan. Miami can be exploited through the air, and ARZ did just that. I'd say that, if it was their game plan, it worked quite well. I'm not saying you're wrong, you could very well be right that they just don't have confidence in Williams. After next week vs. STL, we'll have a better idea of which is true.

 

[Reepicheep]

Well Kolb had 48 pass attempts. I guess that tells us all we need to know about how the coaches feel about the run game. Brutal.

At this point, I don't think there's enough evidence to say that the coaches feel a certain way about the run game and Williams in particular. MIA is one of the top teams against the run and it's certainly within the realm of possibility that this was just a specific game plan. Miami can be exploited through the air, and ARZ did just that. I'd say that, if it was their game plan, it worked quite well. I'm not saying you're wrong, you could very well be right that they just don't have confidence in Williams. After next week vs. STL, we'll have a better idea of which is true.

FWIW I hope I'm wrong! Thanks for the pep talk.

 

[DoubleG]

Well Kolb had 48 pass attempts. I guess that tells us all we need to know about how the coaches feel about the run game. Brutal.

It might also be indicative about what the coaches think of the run-blocking of the o-line. Also, keep in mind, the Cards best play makers are at the WR position. But as a Wells owner, I was actually fully expecting Williams to put up about 75 yards on 16-28 carries and 20+ more on receptions. That was..well...not that.

 

[jurb26]

Well Kolb had 48 pass attempts. I guess that tells us all we need to know about how the coaches feel about the run game. Brutal.

At this point, I don't think there's enough evidence to say that the coaches feel a certain way about the run game and Williams in particular. MIA is one of the top teams against the run and it's certainly within the realm of possibility that this was just a specific game plan. Miami can be exploited through the air, and ARZ did just that. I'd say that, if it was their game plan, it worked quite well. I'm not saying you're wrong, you could very well be right that they just don't have confidence in Williams. After next week vs. STL, we'll have a better idea of which is true.

I'm more in this camp right now as well. I think people are overlooking how good the Mia front 7 is. I doubt Arz did though. They likely set up their game plan to try and pass more as it took advantage of Mia's weakness on D. Perhaps they do not have a great deal of confidence in the running game. I just don't know that this one game can be our benchmark for that. What concerned me more than the run to pass distribution was how often Powell seemed to be in the game. I was expecting Williams to be featured far more in this game than he was. Maybe the coaches have an issue with him that is keeping him from seeing the field? I know the looks like a good NFL RB when he gets carries. It seems there is just never any room to run. It felt to me like Arz had issues with him in passing situations.

 

[elitzer]

willliams didnt too too much more than mcfadden and martin!

 

[DoubleG]

willliams didnt too too much more than mcfadden and martin!

Martin - fine, but McFadden? Dude, the Raiders lost by 31 and were down early...oh, and they stink. The Martin comparison is fine, but DMC is a horrible comp.

 

[BobbyLayne]

willliams didnt too too much more than mcfadden and martin!

Martin - fine, but McFadden? Dude, the Raiders lost by 31 and were down early...oh, and they stink. The Martin comparison is fine, but DMC is a horrible comp.

And they held Arian to 26-79It's good run D

 

[paulbertini]

Williams looks like a solid RB2 moving forward. Good defense will keeps games competitive, not forcing ARI to completely abandon the run.

I feel an avg of 75 total yards most weeks with a 50% chance at a TD with the occasional 120/1 all total yards

 

[BobbyLayne]

Although this week was a tough matchup, it is def a concern the Cards have only one game with over 100 yards rushing. But if Kolb/Roberts is for real, and Larry is Larry, you gotta think running lanes will open up.

Like the matchup this week.

 

[E_Smith]

Although this week was a tough matchup, it is def a concern the Cards have only one game with over 100 yards rushing. But if Kolb/Roberts is for real, and Larry is Larry, you gotta think running lanes will open up.Like the matchup this week.

Hope you are right, I have to start him next week. As for this week, I bought too much into the Williams hype and started him over Ridley who scored 2 TDs. Ouch. That will likely cost me the game. Maybe this will give me a good waiver position this week to pick up Roberts. On top of the Ridley blunder, I didn't notice Kaeding was out this week for the Chargers, mainly because yahoo has the K and Def separated from the rest of the starting lineup. Terrible format Yahoo!!

 

[Mimo]

Arizona ran a lot of no huddle with Powell in as the RB yesterday. I don't think Williams is a part of no huddle package. At one point during the game I think the Cardnials had pass the ball 35+ times and only ran 8.

 

[Nucker101]

He plays the Rams and Bills over the next 2 weeks which definitely makes him worthy of starting, but I'd sell high after that. He plays @Min, SF, @NYJ, @SEA, CHI as tough opponents in 5 of the next 8 weeks from that point onwards.

 

[chinawildman]

I don't understand why they kept him in to block all the time. Williams seems like a very capable pass catcher and Kolb loves to check down, seemed like a perfect match.

 

[cstu]

I don't understand why they kept him in to block all the time. Williams seems like a very capable pass catcher and Kolb loves to check down, seemed like a perfect match.

Just a guess, but I'm thinking it's because the Dolphins have a very weak secondary and a tough run D. I expect him to get more involved in the passing game as the season progresses and they face some easier defenses (every team they've faced so face is top 5 either in run or pass D).

 

[packersfan]

I still like Williams' potential but the Cards trusted an undrafted FA who entered the season no better than 4th on the depth chart more in passing/no-huddle sets yesterday. That ain't good.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

At this point, I don't think there's enough evidence to say that the coaches feel a certain way about the run game and Williams in particular. MIA is one of the top teams against the run and it's certainly within the realm of possibility that this was just a specific game plan. Miami can be exploited through the air, and ARZ did just that. I'd say that, if it was their game plan, it worked quite well. I'm not saying you're wrong, you could very well be right that they just don't have confidence in Williams. After next week vs. STL, we'll have a better idea of which is true.

Running the ball has been an afterthought in Arizona since Whis arrived. They've been in the bottom five in attempts each of the five years he's been there. It hasn't mattered who has been the RB, QB, whether the team was winning/losing, who they're playing, etc. I agree that Williams' talent level / role over the long haul is TBD, but it probably doesn't matter too much unless there is a big philosophical shift in the offense.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

Surprised to see how much PT Bill Powell got yesterday. I've cooled on Williams a bit because he was non-existant in pass game. Thought he'd be more involved than Beanie was. Stephens-Howlings will have a bigger impact than Bill Powell when he's back.