S. Alexander may sit out this season. (1 Viewer)

[BigTex]

I didn't see this posted, so if I missed it call the Honda Nazi.Monday, July 4, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 AM SeahawksAlexander won't sign $6.32M tenderBy José Miguel RomeroSeattle Times staff reporterAlways one to speak his mind, Shaun Alexander's message came through loud and clear. He won't play unless he gets a long-term contract, but he remains confident that will happen.Otherwise, Alexander is prepared to sit and wait, even into the regular season.Alexander said signing the team's $6.32 million franchise tender is "out of the question." When asked if it will come down to not playing without a long-term deal, he replied, "Pretty much, yeah.""I'm pretty strong about my principles," the Seahawks Pro Bowl running back said yesterday at the Adonai Hood Classic basketball tournament at Seattle's Garfield High School. "We're all under the same understanding. It's not like a bitter thing. I've told them that I love playing for Seattle. To me, it's not about money, it's just about a principle."Alexander refuted any notion he and coach Mike Holmgren have a strained relationship, in part because Alexander fell 2 yards short of the NFL rushing title last season. Still he seems intent on standing fast, despite the fact he wants to be in Seattle and the team has expressed a desire to keep him. The Seahawks gave Alexander the franchise tag this offseason to keep him from becoming a free agent.Alexander wanted to have his contract extended earlier in his career, he said."I told them three years ago that I love playing here and let's do something now. Let's meet," Alexander said. "It was just me and Mike [Holmgren]. There were no agents involved. I said, 'You know what? My wife's here. My family's here. I want to be here until I retire. It's really funny because back then I would have worked for peanuts."Two Pro Bowls and 3,000 yards and 36 touchdowns later, now it's time to talk? And I'm like, 'Why would you do this?' So now it's just one of those things where I say, 'Let's do what's right.' I'm not trying to be evil or greedy or anything, let's just do what's right."The Seahawks are forbidden to reopen negotiations with Alexander until July 15, per NFL rules. Until then, Alexander will wait. He is high on the roster additions made by new team president Tim Ruskell, but has informed Holmgren of his convictions regarding a new contract."I honestly believe that they're going to make a great deal for me," Alexander said. "I'm going to end up signing and it's going to be no big deal. [but] I'm not naive to think that you can make a deal like that overnight."

 

[Weiner Dog]

Alexander will sign. His "principals" will instantly be forgotten when he's faced with the decision between $6mm+ and $0.There's only way Alexander doesn't sign is if......he's traded elsewhere and lands a long-term deal.

 

[pablito]

"To me, it's not about money, it's just about a principle."

 

[Burning Sensation]

The more it think about it, the more i think no way Alexander is a Seahawk on opening day.

 

[BigTex]

The more it think about it, the more i think no way Alexander is a Seahawk on opening day.

It certaintly seems that way.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

 

[Steve in Minneapolis]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

 

[BigTex]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

"If" SA is traded or sits out. Do the Seahawks trust Morris to take over? Or will they try and bring in another RB?

 

[Bonzai]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

what about henry?

 

[massraider]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year 

"If" SA is traded or sits out. Do the Seahawks trust Morris to take over? Or will they try and bring in another RB?

Good point. Would a call to Buffalo make sense?

 

[Loopdog]

hahaha thats to all the people who think Alexander will sit out the seasongimme a breakevery holdout says that and every holdout caveswhen was the last time a guy sat out an entire season?he'll fold like everyone else doesLoop

 

[Burning Sensation]

hahaha

thats to all the people who think Alexander will sit out the season

gimme a break

every holdout says that and every holdout caves

when was the last time a guy sat out an entire season?

he'll fold like everyone else does

Loop

He will either sit out or be traded, im guessing he is traded(to the Jags).

 

[msommer]

McCardell sat out until he was traded.Anyone will report by week 10 - otherwise they lose a year in the eligibility for their pension plan I think

 

[Burning Sensation]

McCardell sat out until he was traded.

Anyone will report by week 10 - otherwise they lose a year in the eligibility for their pension plan I think

Galloway

 

[Rovers]

Someone, anyone, tell me who has the cap room to sign the sort of contract he wants? That is why he's untradable, just like Edge.

 

[Warhogs]

hahaha

thats to all the people who think Alexander will sit out the season

gimme a break

every holdout says that and every holdout caves

when was the last time a guy sat out an entire season?

he'll fold like everyone else does

Loop

The name is escaping me and I don't remember if he sat out the whole year. The Broncos and a 1000 yard RB that held out for most of if not an entire season. I believe after that he ended up in Miami for a short stint and then his career was over. Who the heck was that?Edit to add: Was his name Bobby Humphrey or something like that?

 

[BigTex]

hahaha thats to all the people who think Alexander will sit out the seasongimme a breakevery holdout says that and every holdout caveswhen was the last time a guy sat out an entire season?he'll fold like everyone else doesLoop

 

[Bob Magaw]

do they have the cap space after giving big deals to d-jax in '04 & walter jones & hasselbeck in the pre-season?

 

[fridayfrenzy]

do they have the cap space after giving big deals to d-jax in '04 & walter jones & hasselbeck in the pre-season?

They have more than enough room.SA's cap value is currently 6.3 million dollars this year and that is already counting against the Seahawks salary cap. If they sign him to a long term contract, then they'll have more room than they do right now.

 

[Slider]

I traded SA and held onto Morris. In the WCO nearly any RB will do great. Morris will be fine. If SA lands outside of a WCO I see his value dropping a lot. The way the Seahawks handled Jones, I don't see them inking SA for big $$.

 

[Silver & Black]

I think Seatle was foolish to let it come to this. Both sides can posture all that they like, vut IMO, Alexander is a franchise back. Like or hate him, he is a TD machine and is always a threat to brake a long one for a score. His one issue was dancing to much in the hole, which I think he addressed last year, settling for 3 or 4 yards more often.The bottome line is I can't see Seattle not giving him the deal he very much deserves. Should have been done a long time ago. If they wanted to get rid of him because of his antics at the end of last year, they should have done it and addressed RB by now. Do you really think they want to go into the season, a season I think Holmgred has to take the team deep into the playoffs to keep his job, with Morris as the #1 guy? Or Alexander.I think Alexander will definitely hold out and not report. If he does, he will miss 10 games this year and get signed by another team next year for sure.They need to sign him, get him into camp on time and move on. He is a franchise back and the Hawks need to fish or cut bait with him. I think they wanted him to play out the year under the tender and then get a new back for 2006. That wont happen now, so the Hawks need to decide if they want him or not.Sign the guy, he's one of the best backs in the league.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I think Seatle was foolish to let it come to this.

Both sides can posture all that they like, vut IMO, Alexander is a franchise back. Like or hate him, he is a TD machine and is always a threat to brake a long one for a score. His one issue was dancing to much in the hole, which I think he addressed last year, settling for 3 or 4 yards more often.

The bottome line is I can't see Seattle not giving him the deal he very much deserves. Should have been done a long time ago. If they wanted to get rid of him because of his antics at the end of last year, they should have done it and addressed RB by now. Do you really think they want to go into the season, a season I think Holmgred has to take the team deep into the playoffs to keep his job, with Morris as the #1 guy? Or Alexander.

I think Alexander will definitely hold out and not report. If he does, he will miss 10 games this year and get signed by another team next year for sure.

They need to sign him, get him into camp on time and move on. He is a franchise back and the Hawks need to fish or cut bait with him. I think they wanted him to play out the year under the tender and then get a new back for 2006. That wont happen now, so the Hawks need to decide if they want him or not.

Sign the guy, he's one of the best backs in the league.

He's the new Curtis Martin -- no respect, just productivity. He didn't start his first season, but of all RBs in NFL history, from years 2 of their career until year 5 (Alexander has played five years), he's got the fourth most rushing yards (Dickerson, Payton, Smith) and tied for the most touchdowns.

In terms of all RBs through their first five seasons, Alexander is just second to Emmitt. He's also 16th on the rushing yards list.

He's on his way to an excellent career, and is very durable. He's had double digit carries in 53 straight games, including playoffs. And at 28, he's certainly not old.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

I've got Jordon too....here's my RB corpsavis, Domanick

Green, Ahman

Hicks, Maurice

Johnson, Larry

Jones, Julius

Jones, Thomas

Jordan, Lamont

Morris, Maurice

Pittman, Michael

Portis, Clinton

 

[Tiger Fan]

I think Seatle was foolish to let it come to this. 

Both sides can posture all that they like, vut IMO, Alexander is a franchise back.  Like or hate him, he is a TD machine and is always a threat to brake a long one for a score.  His one issue was dancing to much in the hole, which I think he addressed last year, settling for 3 or 4 yards more often.

The bottome line is I can't see Seattle not giving him the deal he very much deserves.  Should have been done a long time ago.  If they wanted to get rid of him because of his antics at the end of last year, they should have done it and addressed RB by now.  Do you really think they want to go into the season, a season I think Holmgred has to take the team deep into the playoffs to keep his job, with Morris as the #1 guy?  Or Alexander.

I think Alexander will definitely hold out and not report.  If he does, he will miss 10 games this year and get signed by another team next year for sure.

They need to sign him, get him into camp on time and move on.  He is a franchise back and the Hawks need to fish or cut bait with him.  I think they wanted him to play out the year under the tender and then get a new back for 2006.  That wont happen now, so the Hawks need to decide if they want him or not.

Sign the guy, he's one of the best backs in the league.

He's the new Curtis Martin -- no respect, just productivity. He didn't start his first season, but of all RBs in NFL history, from years 2 of their career until year 5 (Alexander has played five years), he's got the fourth most rushing yards (Dickerson, Payton, Smith) and tied for the most touchdowns.

In terms of all RBs through their first five seasons, Alexander is just second to Emmitt. He's also 16th on the rushing yards list.

He's on his way to an excellent career, and is very durable. He's had double digit carries in 53 straight games, including playoffs. And at 28, he's certainly not old.

 

[bro1ncos]

hahaha

thats to all the people who think Alexander will sit out the season

gimme a break

every holdout says that and every holdout caves

when was the last time a guy sat out an entire season?

he'll fold like everyone else does

Loop

The name is escaping me and I don't remember if he sat out the whole year. The Broncos and a 1000 yard RB that held out for most of if not an entire season. I believe after that he ended up in Miami for a short stint and then his career was over. Who the heck was that?Edit to add: Was his name Bobby Humphrey or something like that?

Yes you are right, it was Bobby Humphrey. He was traded to the Dolphins for another back with problems too. Sammie Smith I believe.Emmitt Smith held out until his contract demands were met. Of course it helped that the 'Boys were 0-4 at the time.

 

[stevec]

Blame Holmgren for this one - they should have gotten a deal done before last year at the latest - possibly sooner. Note how teams like the Eagles & Patriots manage to sign guys before they hit FA if they can at a reasonable price. What we've seen over the last 2 years from Alexander is pretty much what we saw the first two years he started:

Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards    Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2000 sea |  16 |    64     313    4.9    2 |     5     41   8.2    0 || 2001 sea |  16 |   309   1318    4.3   14 |    44    343   7.8    2 || 2002 sea |  16 |   295   1175    4.0   16 |    59    460   7.8    2 || 2003 sea |  16 |   326   1435    4.4   14 |    42    295   7.0    2 || 2004 sea |  16 |   353   1696    4.8   16 |    23    170   7.4    4 |

14-16 TD's each year at over 4.0 a carry. Total of 1600+ yards rush+ rec all 4 years. After 2002, somebody in the front office should've at least started thinking about this... but he didn't. And after 2003, it gets more absurd.I think there is a very real chance SA sits until week 10, because he knows at that point he'll be able to move on and get away from Holmgren.

 

[goonsquad]

If his holdout lasts through preseason, it sure will make for some intresting ff drafts! Wonder how far his ADP falls?

 

[Finatic]

These two paragraphs stuck out to me:The Seahawks are forbidden to reopen negotiations with Alexander until July 15, per NFL rules. Until then, Alexander will wait. He is high on the roster additions made by new team president Tim Ruskell, but has informed Holmgren of his convictions regarding a new contract."I honestly believe that they're going to make a great deal for me," Alexander said. "I'm going to end up signing and it's going to be no big deal. [but] I'm not naive to think that you can make a deal like that overnight."Sounds like Alexander is laying the groundwork for a long term contract once he and the Hawks can start negotiating again on July 15th.....

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Blame Holmgren for this one - they should have gotten a deal done before last year at the latest - possibly sooner. Note how teams like the Eagles & Patriots manage to sign guys before they hit FA if they can at a reasonable price.

I think there is a very real chance SA sits until week 10, because he knows at that point he'll be able to move on and get away from Holmgren.

Holmgren really had nothing to do with it. It was Whitsett's doing, and where is he right now? Oh, he got fired this offseason. Get away from Holmgren? What the heck are you smoking? The media is the one who hypes up this animosity between them, and yet Homgren and Alexander have each said they have a good relationship and that they have talked on the phone regularly this offseason. Holmgren isn't the GM anymore, so he isn't involved with contract negotiations. Why would Alexander want to get away from his coach who has helped provide him this much success?

With Free Agents such as Walter Jones, Hassebleck and Alexander this offseason, the Hawks tied up their priorities first. Note how they signed those players before they headed to Free Agency this year and then tagged Alexander to not let him hit free agency.

I can guarantee that Alexander will not hold out and will report to the team right before the season, just like every other Franchise Tagged player does. If he wanted out of Seattle then he would have signed the tender and asked to be traded. Instead he is saying he loves Seattle and wants to sign a long term contract. Alexander doesn't want to go anywhere.

Its hilarious that everyone is reading in to Alexander holding out right now, when the reality is that they can't even begin talks till July 15th. The reality is that the Hawks could not finish a deal before the franchise deadline when they hardly had a FO and had to deal with Jones and Hass first. Because they couldn't get a deal by then, does not mean they didn't want too.

Its ironic how Alexander is saying how much he wants to be signed long term and stay in Seattle, yet didn't/won't sign the tender to allow both sides to start negotiating.

His words are simply part of negotiating, just like how the Seahawks are said to be still shopping Alexander around.

"To me, it's not about money, it's just about a principle."

 

[Finatic]

Blame Holmgren for this one - they should have gotten a deal done before last year at the latest - possibly sooner. Note how teams like the Eagles & Patriots manage to sign guys before they hit FA if they can at a reasonable price.

I think there is a very real chance SA sits until week 10, because he knows at that point he'll be able to move on and get away from Holmgren.

Holmgren really had nothing to do with it. It was Whitsett's doing, and where is he right now? Oh, he got fired this offseason. Get away from Holmgren? What the heck are you smoking? The media is the one who hypes up this animosity between them, and yet Homgren and Alexander have each said they have a good relationship and that they have talked on the phone regularly this offseason. Holmgren isn't the GM anymore, so he isn't involved with contract negotiations. Why would Alexander want to get away from his coach who has helped provide him this much success?

With Free Agents such as Walter Jones, Hassebleck and Alexander this offseason, the Hawks tied up their priorities first. Note how they signed those players before they headed to Free Agency this year and then tagged Alexander to not let him hit free agency.

I can guarantee that Alexander will not hold out and will report to the team right before the season, just like every other Franchise Tagged player does. If he wanted out of Seattle then he would have signed the tender and asked to be traded. Instead he is saying he loves Seattle and wants to sign a long term contract. Alexander doesn't want to go anywhere.

Its hilarious that everyone is reading in to Alexander holding out right now, when the reality is that they can't even begin talks till July 15th. The reality is that the Hawks could not finish a deal before the franchise deadline when they hardly had a FO and had to deal with Jones and Hass first. Because they couldn't get a deal by then, does not mean they didn't want too.

Its ironic how Alexander is saying how much he wants to be signed long term and stay in Seattle, yet didn't/won't sign the tender to allow both sides to start negotiating.

His words are simply part of negotiating, just like how the Seahawks are said to be still shopping Alexander around.

"To me, it's not about money, it's just about a principle."

 

[GECKO]

Someone, anyone, tell me who has the cap room to sign the sort of contract he wants? That is why he's untradable, just like Edge.

 

[Family Matters]

Let's face it. This is nothing more than posturing right now. They won't get serious until camp nears. Besides, Alexander won't want to be in camp early anyway. He already knows the offense and probably wouldn't mind the extra time off like Jones did the last 3 years.

 

[Team Legacy]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

I've got Jordon too....here's my RB corpsavis, Domanick

Green, Ahman

Hicks, Maurice

Johnson, Larry

Jones, Julius

Jones, Thomas

Jordan, Lamont

Morris, Maurice

Pittman, Michael

Portis, Clinton

what kind of a guppy league are you in ? is this an 8 team league?

 

[125]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

I've got Jordon too....here's my RB corpsavis, Domanick

Green, Ahman

Hicks, Maurice

Johnson, Larry

Jones, Julius

Jones, Thomas

Jordan, Lamont

Morris, Maurice

Pittman, Michael

Portis, Clinton

what kind of a guppy league are you in ? is this an 8 team league?

This isn't a redraft team from this year. He's acquired these guys over several years is my guess

 

[brednbuddah]

"Two Pro Bowls and 3,000 yards and 36 touchdowns later, now it's time to talk? And I'm like, 'Why would you do this?' So now it's just one of those things where I say, 'Let's do what's right.' I'm not trying to be evil or greedy or anything, let's just do what's right."

wonder why he didn't mention the 04 NFL rushing title? Oh. that's right. he missed it by one-yeard to Curtis Martin. God, I loved that...

 

[Tiger Fan]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

I've got Jordon too....here's my RB corpsavis, Domanick - FA pickup in 2003

Green, Ahman -Traded for before his 2nd year in GB

Hicks, Maurice - FA pick up in 2004

Johnson, Larry -FA pick up in 2004

Jones, Julius - drafted in 04

Jones, Thomas -traded for before 04

Jordan, Lamont -FA pick up in 2004

Morris, Maurice -FA pick up in 2004

Pittman, Michael -drafted in 2004

Portis, Clinton - drafted in 2003

what kind of a guppy league are you in ? is this an 8 team league?

14 team keeper league. How I acquired each is noted above. Not guppy at all. I think the Jordan and Morris pickups were clutch late last year.

 

[Wberry]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

I know I'm not the first guy on the boards to mention this, but if Alexander does sit or get traded, and the Hawks don't trade for a back, don't count Morris to beat out third year back Kerry Carter. He's 6'1 238lbs and from what I've read on a couple of Seahawks message boards, he is thought well of. So for those who have grabbed Morris you might want to grab Carter as well.

 

[SuperJohn96]

:jesselumsden:

 

[Bangahaha]

Two weeks ago I posted up a thread stating that NOW (well, then) was the perfect time to trade Alexander. A few folks told me I was insane.Well, now here we are a few weeks later, the uncertainty around Alexander has gotten worse, the chance that even if he doesn't sit the year that he misses some time is greater, the chance he is traded is greater, and now his trade value is dropping thanks to articles like this.The planets are lining up for an off year, and have been for a while.Trade him before it's too late.~Bang

 

[TCFF]

While Holmgren may not be GM anymore I'm sure he stays in contact with the new GM and the personnel people. Holmgren's job is on the line this year and if Alexander holds out until week 10, Holmgren is gone after week 17. My guess is Holmgren wants this deal done as badly as Alexander and that it will be done at least by the third preseason game. If Alexander doesn't get a deal Holmgren is a lame duck this season.

 

[Kit Fisto]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

I've got Jordon too....here's my RB corpsavis, Domanick - FA pickup in 2003

Green, Ahman -Traded for before his 2nd year in GB

Hicks, Maurice - FA pick up in 2004

Johnson, Larry -FA pick up in 2004

Jones, Julius - drafted in 04

Jones, Thomas -traded for before 04

Jordan, Lamont -FA pick up in 2004

Morris, Maurice -FA pick up in 2004

Pittman, Michael -drafted in 2004

Portis, Clinton - drafted in 2003

what kind of a guppy league are you in ? is this an 8 team league?

14 team keeper league. How I acquired each is noted above. Not guppy at all. I think the Jordan and Morris pickups were clutch late last year.

Larry Johnson and Lamont Jordan were Free Agent pickups? Either your team stinks and you get first crack at all these guys (which I doubt with those RBs), or the other owners in your league are asleep at the wheel.

 

[Dope]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

"If" SA is traded or sits out. Do the Seahawks trust Morris to take over? Or will they try and bring in another RB?

Good point. Would a call to Buffalo make sense?

Travis Henry to Seattle was the 1st thing I though of when I saw this post also.It is true that I am a TH owner so I'm looking at every situation...but what are the odds of TH moving to Seattle?

And if he did move there...how good a fit do you think he'd be?

My thoughts:

I don't think he's actually going to go there, but I do think that if he did he would do quite well. He has decent enough hands (43 catches in 2002) so he could prosper in a WCO. I could see him gaining TeenHundred yards rushing with a career high in catches and rec. yards. Total yards in that offense approaching 1700-1800. With double digit total TD's.

 

[Yenrub]

Doesn’t Henry come with the same (or at least similar) contract problems?

 

[919]

These two paragraphs stuck out to me:

The Seahawks are forbidden to reopen negotiations with Alexander until July 15, per NFL rules. Until then, Alexander will wait. He is high on the roster additions made by new team president Tim Ruskell, but has informed Holmgren of his convictions regarding a new contract.

"I honestly believe that they're going to make a great deal for me," Alexander said. "I'm going to end up signing and it's going to be no big deal. [but] I'm not naive to think that you can make a deal like that overnight."

Sounds like Alexander is laying the groundwork for a long term contract once he and the Hawks can start negotiating again on July 15th.....

Or, SA is playing the media and fans so the Hawks look like the bad guys when the deal falls apart.

 

[919]

I can guarantee that Alexander will not hold out and will report to the team right before the season, just like every other Franchise Tagged player does.

Ted: But why do they put a guarantee on the box then?

Tommy: Because they know all they solda ya was a guaranteed piece of ####. That's all it is. Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

I've got Jordon too....here's my RB corpsavis, Domanick - FA pickup in 2003

Green, Ahman -Traded for before his 2nd year in GB

Hicks, Maurice - FA pick up in 2004

Johnson, Larry -FA pick up in 2004

Jones, Julius - drafted in 04

Jones, Thomas -traded for before 04

Jordan, Lamont -FA pick up in 2004

Morris, Maurice -FA pick up in 2004

Pittman, Michael -drafted in 2004

Portis, Clinton - drafted in 2003

what kind of a guppy league are you in ? is this an 8 team league?

14 team keeper league. How I acquired each is noted above. Not guppy at all. I think the Jordan and Morris pickups were clutch late last year.

Larry Johnson and Lamont Jordan were Free Agent pickups? Either your team stinks and you get first crack at all these guys (which I doubt with those RBs), or the other owners in your league are asleep at the wheel.

I don't doubt that I am the most proactive owner in that league (college friends) but not every backup gets drafted.

 

[cjack]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

I've got Jordon too....here's my RB corpsavis, Domanick - FA pickup in 2003

Green, Ahman -Traded for before his 2nd year in GB

Hicks, Maurice - FA pick up in 2004

Johnson, Larry -FA pick up in 2004

Jones, Julius - drafted in 04

Jones, Thomas -traded for before 04

Jordan, Lamont -FA pick up in 2004

Morris, Maurice -FA pick up in 2004

Pittman, Michael -drafted in 2004

Portis, Clinton - drafted in 2003

what kind of a guppy league are you in ? is this an 8 team league?

14 team keeper league. How I acquired each is noted above. Not guppy at all. I think the Jordan and Morris pickups were clutch late last year.

Larry Johnson and Lamont Jordan were Free Agent pickups? Either your team stinks and you get first crack at all these guys (which I doubt with those RBs), or the other owners in your league are asleep at the wheel.

I don't doubt that I am the most proactive owner in that league (college friends) but not every backup gets drafted.

Obviously, from the sight of your RB roster, there aren't many roster limit restrictions. So how, in a 14 team league, are L. Johnson and L. Jordan free agents? How many RBs does the average team in your league carry?

 

[BigRed]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

I've got Jordon too....here's my RB corpsavis, Domanick - FA pickup in 2003

Green, Ahman -Traded for before his 2nd year in GB

Hicks, Maurice - FA pick up in 2004

Johnson, Larry -FA pick up in 2004

Jones, Julius - drafted in 04

Jones, Thomas -traded for before 04

Jordan, Lamont -FA pick up in 2004

Morris, Maurice -FA pick up in 2004

Pittman, Michael -drafted in 2004

Portis, Clinton - drafted in 2003

what kind of a guppy league are you in ? is this an 8 team league?

14 team keeper league. How I acquired each is noted above. Not guppy at all. I think the Jordan and Morris pickups were clutch late last year.

Larry Johnson and Lamont Jordan were Free Agent pickups? Either your team stinks and you get first crack at all these guys (which I doubt with those RBs), or the other owners in your league are asleep at the wheel.

I don't doubt that I am the most proactive owner in that league (college friends) but not every backup gets drafted.

Obviously, from the sight of your RB roster, there aren't many roster limit restrictions. So how, in a 14 team league, are L. Johnson and L. Jordan free agents? How many RBs does the average team in your league carry?

I don't know but I hope you guys reply back and forth about this at least 500 more times. It's so relevant to the topic.

 

[cjack]

Good thing I picked up Morris in week 15 of last year

Ditto.... I have been watching this closely... I drafted Morris LY in the 17th round of a 'keep 3 after the 5th round' league. (I nabbed LaMont Jordan in the 14th rd too) I'm 1-1 so far on the guys I was hoping would pick up a starting job in 2005... I'd love to be 2 for 2 and have two starting RBs for the equivalent of 12th and 15th rd. picks....

I've got Jordon too....here's my RB corpsavis, Domanick - FA pickup in 2003

Green, Ahman -Traded for before his 2nd year in GB

Hicks, Maurice - FA pick up in 2004

Johnson, Larry -FA pick up in 2004

Jones, Julius - drafted in 04

Jones, Thomas -traded for before 04

Jordan, Lamont -FA pick up in 2004

Morris, Maurice -FA pick up in 2004

Pittman, Michael -drafted in 2004

Portis, Clinton - drafted in 2003

what kind of a guppy league are you in ? is this an 8 team league?

14 team keeper league. How I acquired each is noted above. Not guppy at all. I think the Jordan and Morris pickups were clutch late last year.

Larry Johnson and Lamont Jordan were Free Agent pickups? Either your team stinks and you get first crack at all these guys (which I doubt with those RBs), or the other owners in your league are asleep at the wheel.

I don't doubt that I am the most proactive owner in that league (college friends) but not every backup gets drafted.

Obviously, from the sight of your RB roster, there aren't many roster limit restrictions. So how, in a 14 team league, are L. Johnson and L. Jordan free agents? How many RBs does the average team in your league carry?

I don't know but I hope you guys reply back and forth about this at least 500 more times. It's so relevant to the topic.

:Bite me smiley:, it's the first time I posted in the thread. Like the rest of the topic was generating such great discussion. Nobody here knows when/if Alexander will sign so we'll wait until we find out what happens. Thanks.

 

[Silverstreak]

Let's face it. This is nothing more than posturing right now. They won't get serious until camp nears. Besides, Alexander won't want to be in camp early anyway. He already knows the offense and probably wouldn't mind the extra time off like Jones did the last 3 years.

.....ahhhhh, did I here the name Jones mentioned??? Is that the same dude that goes by the nickname "No Camp" Jones??? Dude made holdin' out an art form in ye 'ol Emerald City. I concur with yer assessment Friday. VG post. This thing gets done IMO before camp breaks just in time for SA to get most of his legs back before week 1.

Can you say LARGE SIGNING BONUS, ATTRACTIVE FIRST YEAR SALARY, REACHABLE INCENTIVES BONUS' WITH LOTS OF BACK-LOADED JACK???.....(see Terrell Owens, Philly)