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S. Holmes vs. C. Jackson (1 Viewer)
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C. Jackson has more potential and offers more value from a fantasy perspective. CJ will get his points this year, Pats throw more and have the better QB.
I think they have about equal prospects this year. There is an outside chance of both starting, but likely will be coming out in the slot.
C. Jackson has the potential to be better, but Holmes is a much better wr right now. I don't think Brady is that far ahead of Ben, and wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers O changes enough in the near future to make the wr2 get much more viable stats than in the past.
Is that definitive enough?
C. Jackson has the potential to be better, but Holmes is a much better wr right now. I don't think Brady is that far ahead of Ben, and wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers O changes enough in the near future to make the wr2 get much more viable stats than in the past.
Is that definitive enough?
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Holy Schneikes
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Actually, the Steeler #2 WR has traditionaly had some pretty good value because they tend to not throw to the TE or the backs all that much.Plax and Ward were a pretty good combo for a while.
Was just checking the stats on NE WR2 over the last 4 years./ Amazingly it finished 41 to 42 in the last 4 years. So matters size of league. Never did Pittsburgh but I am expecting more as they may run the ball more but dont spread it around as much when passing the ball. Plus Flordia WR's have been pretty disappointing overall during the last 10 years my home league has been going. Darrell jackson is the only one with the kind of success you hope for. Ohio State has done better in this categorey.
GATOR HATER
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It was really close for me I have always liked Jackson, but Brady spreads the ball too much. So on a whim, I decided to go with Holmes. He could really be great as a YAC reciever.
Ben Stiller
Footballguy
Super Bowl XLBrady tosses the coin.
Ben wins the game.
except it's not that far from the truth. Ben has had his stretches where he's struggled, but for his NFL experience, he has excelled and will only get better.He's a natural, just like Brady is. Brady is obviously the better qb now, but I don't think it will be too much longer before there will be some debate about it.
jurb26
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Well, seeing that I am a Steeler homer and on top of that, I just landed Holmes in my rookie draft. One might peg me as biased on this topic.
I however still like Jackson more. He is more explosive, has better size and just seems to be a freak. Brady throwing the ball to you and having Branch opposite can't really hurt. Both should be terrific.
I however still like Jackson more. He is more explosive, has better size and just seems to be a freak. Brady throwing the ball to you and having Branch opposite can't really hurt. Both should be terrific.
Ben Stiller
Footballguy
Respectfully disagree. Holmes is another Lee Evans. The only reason he dropped as far as he did was his size. He has been the Buckeyes big play guy for the past three seasons. Ginn got alot of the hype but Holmes was the go to guy when they needed a big play. Holmes scored 25 TD in 3 years at OSU with some of the worst QBs in the Big Ten. Wait and see what he does with a real QB. I haven't seen as much of Chad Jackson but I doubt he's more explosive than Holmes.
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jurb26
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I hope you're right and believe me I know that Holmes too is explosive. Trust me when I say that Jackson is moreso though. I really have a vested interest in Holmes, so I wish it was not the case. It is however MHO. THink that Holmes is the better rt. runner and more NFL ready player. We'll see how things turn out.
EBF
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Holmes will have the better rookie year. Jackson has a little more long term potential, but also carries more bust risk.
Both players are in good situations to succeed. Roethlisberger is the best young QB in football and the Steelers have a very good track record in the first round of the draft (Burress, Polamalu, Miller, Roethlisberger, etc). I think it's highly unlikely that Holmes will bust. My guess is that he'll eventually become one of the better #2 WRs in the league. I expect 600-800 yards from him next year.
As for Jackson, the Patriots lack a true #1 WR and also have a strong front office. Even if Branch decides to stay with the team next year, Jackson will have a chance to overtake him for the WR1 role by 2007 or 2008. That said, Jackson strikes me as the more raw prospect. I don't expect much from him in 2006.
Both players are in good situations to succeed. Roethlisberger is the best young QB in football and the Steelers have a very good track record in the first round of the draft (Burress, Polamalu, Miller, Roethlisberger, etc). I think it's highly unlikely that Holmes will bust. My guess is that he'll eventually become one of the better #2 WRs in the league. I expect 600-800 yards from him next year.
As for Jackson, the Patriots lack a true #1 WR and also have a strong front office. Even if Branch decides to stay with the team next year, Jackson will have a chance to overtake him for the WR1 role by 2007 or 2008. That said, Jackson strikes me as the more raw prospect. I don't expect much from him in 2006.
Evilgrin 72
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The reason why Jackson fell to round 2 while Holmes was drafted in round 1 is that a lot of GMs saw something in Jackson on game tape : he shies away from contact. Pat Kirwan was talking before the draft about how Jackson was going to fall because he tends to "hear footsteps", short-arm a lot of balls, and generally shy away from hits. This can kill him in the NFL, and you have to wonder if this is something that can be coached out. Seems to be more of a character issue, and those are tough to change.
Face it, no way does a 6' 2" receiver with 4.32 speed fall to the middle of round 2 unless there's a major flaw.
Face it, no way does a 6' 2" receiver with 4.32 speed fall to the middle of round 2 unless there's a major flaw.
6 of one, half a dozen of another.
Holmes is probably more capable of playing effectively in the NFL right now, but Jackson has the tools to probably be the better WR in the long run. Both guys are going to places where they'll most probably see the field significantly this year.
What does you team need more? Immediate help at WR? Take Holmes. Long term WR strength? Take Jackson.
My only real concern about the differences between the two are their alma maters. OSU WRs have performed pretty well in transferring from the college game to the bigs. UFA WRs don't have near the success in transition. I know these are indiivduals and past history of others shouldn't make any impact, but I keep telling myself that year after year, yet for some reason it still seems to make an impact.
Holmes is probably more capable of playing effectively in the NFL right now, but Jackson has the tools to probably be the better WR in the long run. Both guys are going to places where they'll most probably see the field significantly this year.
What does you team need more? Immediate help at WR? Take Holmes. Long term WR strength? Take Jackson.
My only real concern about the differences between the two are their alma maters. OSU WRs have performed pretty well in transferring from the college game to the bigs. UFA WRs don't have near the success in transition. I know these are indiivduals and past history of others shouldn't make any impact, but I keep telling myself that year after year, yet for some reason it still seems to make an impact.
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