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S. Wallace focused on being a better prepared QB (1 Viewer)

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Seneca Wallace Is Mr. Multi-tasker

7/5/2006

By Mike Kahn - Seahawks Insider

KIRKLAND - The questions are incessant for Seneca Wallace in the annual Free Seneca campaign entering Seattle Seahawks training camp at the end of the month.

Would you like to play wide receiver and return kicks?

Don’t you think you can do the same thing for the Seahawks that Antwaan Randle-El did for the Pittsburgh Steelers?

Can you do that and be the backup quarterback for Matt Hasselbeck?

It always starts out that way and digresses into a what if free-for-all.

Likewise, coach Mike Holmgren hears the same things from a different angle: are you looking for a veteran backup to free Seneca?

On and on it drones for the 2003 fourth round pick out of Iowa State. Sure, he’s only 5-11 and a shade less than 200 pounds. But he has steadily improved his passing and decision-making, and nobody questions his extraordinary athleticism and play-making ability. It just comes down to whether or not he is better suited to stay at backup quarterback or be a multi-purpose player to help the special teams and keep defenses off balance when he enters the game on offense.

To date, it would be logical to assume Holmgren has taken great pride in how well Wallace has developed and is confident should something unfortunate happen to Hasselbeck, he’s eminently capable of stepping in. It’s just a different situation than it was two years ago when Trent Dilfer was the backup and Wallace was just learning what it meant to be a quarterback in the NFL, instead of a great athlete with passing skills that carried him during a record-breaking career at Iowa State - gaining 6,201 yards in total offense his junior and senior year and throwing for 27 touchdowns.

“It’s not a question if Seneca is capable of running this team,” Holmgren said. “I’m confident he can. It’s more of a case if I let Seneca do something else and he gets hurt, then what do I do?”

Wallace understands all of it. More than anything else, he has appreciated Holmgren’s faith in him and the support he, offensive coordinator Gil Haskell and quarterback coach Jim Zorn have provided. But he can’t deny how much fun it was to make a huge 28-yard reception in the playoff victory over Washington.

The whole scenario is a constant contradiction.

“As long as I’m on the team, if they want me to play another position, I’ll play,” Wallace said. “But as long as I stay where I am right now, my focus is all about working at improving at quarterback, and I think I’m doing that. When the time comes when they ask me to do something else, I’m going to do it 100 percent because I’m a football player first; and I love to play football.

“It means a lot to me because for (Holmgren) to think of me as his backup quarterback, I’ve got to be able to step in at any time. So I’ve got to work me butt off to keep getting better so I’m ready if and when that time comes. At any time he can say, ‘Hey, I don’t think he’s progressing anymore, I can bring in another guy.’ I don’t want him to every have to consider that. For my sake and my respect for him, it makes me work a lot harder.”

And that’s really at the heart of the matter now, creating a synergy between the two. Certainly Holmgren was a lot harder on Wallace during the minicamps of the past couple of months just because the expectations have risen. As Hasselbeck has escalated in value, so has Wallace.

As time passes, it becomes more of his responsibility to help prevent Hasselbeck from getting burnt out by taking an increasing amount of reps and run the offense seamlessly in the process.

“A lot is expected from the number two quarterback and coaches that I’ve been around, when they’re coaching and yelling at you and getting on you, it’s because they like you and are expecting a lot out of you,” Hasselbeck said. “A lot more is expected out of Seneca then maybe in the past because of how we feel about him, how our team feels about him, and the kind of ability that he has.

“Hopefully, he never has to play, but more than likely he’s going to have to come in and play for us. I think he’ll do a great job. It’s a tough position playing quarterback. You get criticized a lot, sometimes publicly, sometimes in your meeting room, but it is part of the job and you've got to try to handle it.”

Wallace is cool with that. Sometimes the tougher part is just the unknown. If Hasselbeck is the president on the field, then certainly Wallace is the vice president - always one play away from having all of it heaped upon his shoulders.

He knows it, and the support system of his brothers, friends and teammates has consistently been there for him as games pass. Oh, he played exceptionally well in last year’s preseason opener at New Orleans – opening a lot of eyes with his nearly perfect passing and explosive running out of the pocket. But things simmered down after that, and when he did play during the regular season last season it was in a mop-up role or in the final game in the second half with a makeshift offensive line.

His numbers of 13-of-25 passing for 173 yards, a touchdown and an interception with a 70.9 quarterback rating aren’t really reflective of anything other than he has only seen spot time in games. But Wallace know he's only a play away from getting the start, and he's got to be ready for it.

“It’s exactly like being the vice president,” Wallace said. “Like Matt always says to me, ‘This is a pressure-packed game and a pressure-packed position, and you’ve just got to be ready for anything at any time.

“But the hard part is being the guy sitting there for three years. People keep asking me, ‘When you going to play? You want to play another position to get out there?’ They don’t understand. When you’ve got a guy like Matt that’s a Pro Bowler, who took us to the Super Bowl, and playing this position in the NFL, it’s hard. I know all about it. Unless you’re a guy who’s a first-round pick and they throw you right in there and say, ‘Hey, have at it.’ Otherwise, you’ve got to work your butt off to get there and that’s what I’m doing. Everybody is right there for me. ‘Just keep doing what you’re doing. As long as you keep working hard, it will be fine.’”

Part of the issue is he’s been an A-plus guy leading all the conditioning workouts, with his attitude and desire to do whatever is asked of him at any time. Most of it, though, is his exciting talent. He’s one of those guys that every time he touches the football, everybody slides to the edge of their seats with anticipation.

And yet, with the return to health and experience of returner/receiver Peter Warrick, the perspective tends to be there won’t be the same need for that bolt of energy that Wallace could produce on special teams and in the open field as a receiver that has been tantalizing everybody.

That’s why right now, it’s more of a novelty item and most of the focus is on making him a better prepared quarterback every day.

“He’s come so far,” Haskell said. “For the longest time it was about him learning the playbook, the formations, where everybody is supposed to be. Now he is just about there. His passing has improved so much, we have more confidence in him than ever before. But it’s always tempting to put him out there because he’s such a great athlete and a big-play type of guy. If Trent (Dilfer) were still here, it wouldn’t be a big deal. He’s not, and it’s too much of a gamble to put your backup quarterback in that position, because if he gets hurt then we’re in trouble.”

As the roster is presently comprised, second-year quarterback David Greene has developed enough to be a factor, and despite two great years in NFL Europe and loads of potential, 6-6, 240-pound Gibran Hamdan still hasn’t proven himself an NFL quarterback, nor shown he can stay healthy after breaking his collarbone and ankle in consecutive years.

So that leaves Wallace, the backup quarterback. He’s game for anything, quietly listening, learning and honing his craft in the meetings, in film sessions, in practice, and intently watching games.

Indeed, this is just Year Four in the “Making of Seneca Wallace, NFL quarterback." He’ll be the last one you’ll ever hear a peep out of with regard to playing time or wanting to change positions, or really anything. He’s the model young, developing player, and the hope is if and when the time comes, that will translate into the exciting quarterback everyone surrounding him hopes he can be. And that’s why Holmgren continues to get tougher on him as each practice and each day passes.

“He gets on me and it shows that he cares what I do,” Wallace said. “Back in the day when I first got here, he wouldn’t say anything to me. I really didn’t know what I was doing. Now I understand the whole offense. That’s why he gets on the quarterbacks all the time – you’re the one running the show and you’ve got to do it the right way. If you do, you have a great chance to succeed. That’s why Matt’s so good. That’s why it’s cool.

“I know that I’m in a profession playing a sport that most people only dream about. I’m in a position right now at being a starting quarterback in the NFL at any time. It’s a dream come true for me, and a lot of people just wish they could be in the NFL, period. I always look back on the situation. There are only 53 players on the team and it’s tough to make it. You go in with about a 100 guys, and for you to be one of the top 53 means a lot; and it’s my job to prove every day that I belong.”

The question isn’t if. Eventually, it won’t be where. And when it happens, that’s when the fun will really begin.

 
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I hope Hamdan gives him a "run" for his backup spot this summer
Think Hamdan can beat out David Greene?
very much so.Last two years he was excellent in NFLE but got hurt each year. This year he broke his ankle but won MVP and I believe he'll be there for camp. The Walrus likes him and praised him watching NFLE games and in practice so he's got his eye on him a little bit.

I gotta see how he does at the NFL level(preseason) but I really think he could be very good. He reminds me of Kurt and other Admirals QBs that went on to play in the pros. They have an impeccable record for developping QBs in Amsterdam too.

 
I hope Hamdan gives him a "run" for his backup spot this summer
Think Hamdan can beat out David Greene?
very much so.Last two years he was excellent in NFLE but got hurt each year. This year he broke his ankle but won MVP and I believe he'll be there for camp. The Walrus likes him and praised him watching NFLE games and in practice so he's got his eye on him a little bit.

I gotta see how he does at the NFL level(preseason) but I really think he could be very good. He reminds me of Kurt and other Admirals QBs that went on to play in the pros. They have an impeccable record for developping QBs in Amsterdam too.
Sounds alot like Rohan Davey.I remember when the Skins draft Hamdan, who if I recall, did not play much in college either. Id love to see him be an NFLE success story, but that league has been pretty devoid of them since the 90s.

 
also FWIW from what I've read, Greene's having trouble adjusting to Holmgren's offense and Hamdan been studying it since last year

 
I hope Hamdan gives him a "run" for his backup spot this summer
Think Hamdan can beat out David Greene?
very much so.Last two years he was excellent in NFLE but got hurt each year. This year he broke his ankle but won MVP and I believe he'll be there for camp. The Walrus likes him and praised him watching NFLE games and in practice so he's got his eye on him a little bit.

I gotta see how he does at the NFL level(preseason) but I really think he could be very good. He reminds me of Kurt and other Admirals QBs that went on to play in the pros. They have an impeccable record for developping QBs in Amsterdam too.
Sounds alot like Rohan Davey.I remember when the Skins draft Hamdan, who if I recall, did not play much in college either. Id love to see him be an NFLE success story, but that league has been pretty devoid of them since the 90s.
He was Randel-El's backup and didn't play til his 5th year. Spurrier liked him, gibbs didn't seem to care, and now Holmgren is loving him one day and grumpy the next that he's hurt and not practicing in minicamp stuff. In his brief time, he's been around some interesting coaches
 
I'd like to hear more about Seneca playing WR(potentially) if anyone has any links I'd appreciate it

 
I hope Hamdan gives him a "run" for his backup spot this summer
Think Hamdan can beat out David Greene?
very much so.Last two years he was excellent in NFLE but got hurt each year. This year he broke his ankle but won MVP and I believe he'll be there for camp. The Walrus likes him and praised him watching NFLE games and in practice so he's got his eye on him a little bit.

I gotta see how he does at the NFL level(preseason) but I really think he could be very good. He reminds me of Kurt and other Admirals QBs that went on to play in the pros. They have an impeccable record for developping QBs in Amsterdam too.
Sounds alot like Rohan Davey.I remember when the Skins draft Hamdan, who if I recall, did not play much in college either. Id love to see him be an NFLE success story, but that league has been pretty devoid of them since the 90s.
He was Randel-El's backup and didn't play til his 5th year. Spurrier liked him, gibbs didn't seem to care, and now Holmgren is loving him one day and grumpy the next that he's hurt and not practicing in minicamp stuff. In his brief time, he's been around some interesting coaches
I saw him get some PT during a Skins pre-season game. Raw, but huge. The kid definately has some talent.
 
I hope Hamdan gives him a "run" for his backup spot this summer
Think Hamdan can beat out David Greene?
very much so.Last two years he was excellent in NFLE but got hurt each year. This year he broke his ankle but won MVP and I believe he'll be there for camp. The Walrus likes him and praised him watching NFLE games and in practice so he's got his eye on him a little bit.

I gotta see how he does at the NFL level(preseason) but I really think he could be very good. He reminds me of Kurt and other Admirals QBs that went on to play in the pros. They have an impeccable record for developping QBs in Amsterdam too.
Sounds alot like Rohan Davey.I remember when the Skins draft Hamdan, who if I recall, did not play much in college either. Id love to see him be an NFLE success story, but that league has been pretty devoid of them since the 90s.
He was Randel-El's backup and didn't play til his 5th year. Spurrier liked him, gibbs didn't seem to care, and now Holmgren is loving him one day and grumpy the next that he's hurt and not practicing in minicamp stuff. In his brief time, he's been around some interesting coaches
I saw him get some PT during a Skins pre-season game. Raw, but huge. The kid definately has some talent.
Gibbs didn't pick him and that may have doomed him with the 'Skins, but Hamdan strikes me as another guy like Rypien who 20 years ago, because of some mysterious injuries, stayed on the 'Skins IR list for several years before emerging as a player. I agree, he's raw but there's obviously something to work with there.
 
I hope Hamdan gives him a "run" for his backup spot this summer
Think Hamdan can beat out David Greene?
very much so.Last two years he was excellent in NFLE but got hurt each year. This year he broke his ankle but won MVP and I believe he'll be there for camp. The Walrus likes him and praised him watching NFLE games and in practice so he's got his eye on him a little bit.

I gotta see how he does at the NFL level(preseason) but I really think he could be very good. He reminds me of Kurt and other Admirals QBs that went on to play in the pros. They have an impeccable record for developping QBs in Amsterdam too.
Sounds alot like Rohan Davey.I remember when the Skins draft Hamdan, who if I recall, did not play much in college either. Id love to see him be an NFLE success story, but that league has been pretty devoid of them since the 90s.
He was Randel-El's backup and didn't play til his 5th year. Spurrier liked him, gibbs didn't seem to care, and now Holmgren is loving him one day and grumpy the next that he's hurt and not practicing in minicamp stuff. In his brief time, he's been around some interesting coaches
I saw him get some PT during a Skins pre-season game. Raw, but huge. The kid definately has some talent.
Gibbs didn't pick him and that may have doomed him with the 'Skins, but Hamdan strikes me as another guy like Rypien who 20 years ago, because of some mysterious injuries, stayed on the 'Skins IR list for several years before emerging as a player. I agree, he's raw but there's obviously something to work with there.
The same Hamdan who only got to start 8 games as a 5th year senior, winning 2 while throwing 14 INT's to 9 TD's? So you'll right off Seneca because he's 5-11 even though he challenged for the Heisman, but Hamdan is the next Rypien. Gotcha.
 
How is Seneca preparing? By growing 6 inches?
How tall is Vick?
Seneca's modeling his passing game on Vick's? :lmao:
How tall is drew brees?? Doug Flutie?? :own3d:
:own3d: ? :lmao: If you want your guy to model his passing on Doug Flutie or Michael Vick and then brag about it, then go ahead. Wallace is listed as 5'11" in nfl.com, but most things I've read about him indicate that he's at least 1-2" shorter than that. Vick's 6', as is Brees. The only guy who Wallace's height compares favorably to is Flutie's, which is like bragging that you're the tallest midget in the circus. :bye:
 
How is Seneca preparing? By growing 6 inches?
How tall is Vick?
Seneca's modeling his passing game on Vick's? :lmao:
How tall is drew brees?? Doug Flutie?? :own3d:
:own3d: ? :lmao: If you want your guy to model his passing on Doug Flutie or Michael Vick and then brag about it, then go ahead. Wallace is listed as 5'11" in nfl.com, but most things I've read about him indicate that he's at least 1-2" shorter than that. Vick's 6', as is Brees. The only guy who Wallace's height compares favorably to is Flutie's, which is like bragging that you're the tallest midget in the circus. :bye:
Don't get mad because you were :own3d: Brees is 6 ', Wallace is 5'11", if you want to argue over an inch .... :lmao: Here are the facts1) Brees has played at a pro bowl level for the last 2 years2) Brees and Wallace are very similar in height3) Your Wallace can not play QB because he is too short arguement is very weak, find a new one.4) When someone finds solid info which disproves your arguement, instead of comming back with a smart ### remark ........ you need to accept that you were wrong..... its ok ..... nobody is perfect. :goodposting:
 
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I hope Hamdan gives him a "run" for his backup spot this summer
Think Hamdan can beat out David Greene?
very much so.Last two years he was excellent in NFLE but got hurt each year. This year he broke his ankle but won MVP and I believe he'll be there for camp. The Walrus likes him and praised him watching NFLE games and in practice so he's got his eye on him a little bit.

I gotta see how he does at the NFL level(preseason) but I really think he could be very good. He reminds me of Kurt and other Admirals QBs that went on to play in the pros. They have an impeccable record for developping QBs in Amsterdam too.
Sounds alot like Rohan Davey.I remember when the Skins draft Hamdan, who if I recall, did not play much in college either. Id love to see him be an NFLE success story, but that league has been pretty devoid of them since the 90s.
He was Randel-El's backup and didn't play til his 5th year. Spurrier liked him, gibbs didn't seem to care, and now Holmgren is loving him one day and grumpy the next that he's hurt and not practicing in minicamp stuff. In his brief time, he's been around some interesting coaches
I saw him get some PT during a Skins pre-season game. Raw, but huge. The kid definately has some talent.
Gibbs didn't pick him and that may have doomed him with the 'Skins, but Hamdan strikes me as another guy like Rypien who 20 years ago, because of some mysterious injuries, stayed on the 'Skins IR list for several years before emerging as a player. I agree, he's raw but there's obviously something to work with there.
The same Hamdan who only got to start 8 games as a 5th year senior, winning 2 while throwing 14 INT's to 9 TD's? So you'll right off Seneca because he's 5-11 even though he challenged for the Heisman, but Hamdan is the next Rypien. Gotcha.
we were talking about Greene(yes I see the thread title) and I had initially stated I hope he can give him a run for his backup spot. No one's jumping any ship here.http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/colum...p-5270986c.html

August 3rd quote

“We thought he was going to be set back because of the injury, but he has not missed a beat and really looks like he can move his feet well,” quarterbacks coach Jim Zorn said. “The thing that has been really outstanding is his (throwing) accuracy. He is accurate and he throws the ball hard. When you have those two, good things can happen for a quarterback.”

 
(KFFL) Dave Boling, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports Seattle Seahawks QB Seneca Wallace has been making plays at quarterback, silencing those who think he should move positions. Wallace connected on three touchdown passes during red zone drills against most of the team's defensive starters, impressing the team with his ability to combine arm strength and mobility. "He works so hard passing the ball; he wants people to know he's a fine passer so he doesn't always cut it loose," head coach Mike Holmgren said. "He wants to stay in there and throw it. But I know he's a fine passer. And when he plays in a game, his legs are a big weapon for us, too."
 
I wish he'd get a shot for a pro football team.

Maybe The Vikings can sign him to a 7yr $49M contract and then the Seahawks can sign Onterrio Smith to a 7yr $49M contract to get back at them.

 
Anything further on him playing WR? in a just to get him on the field sorta move? 5-6 plays a game or less?

 
Anything further on him playing WR? in a just to get him on the field sorta move? 5-6 plays a game or less?
He was taking reps last year during the season because the 'Hawks were running out of WRs.If he had impressed at all then, you'd likely have at least seen him in there for a late play or something.He's a QB....
 
Anything further on him playing WR? in a just to get him on the field sorta move? 5-6 plays a game or less?
He was taking reps last year during the season because the 'Hawks were running out of WRs.If he had impressed at all then, you'd likely have at least seen him in there for a late play or something.He's a QB....
He did so in the spring tooI remember Hostetler playing WR for the G-men. :bag: I'm not talking Slash like but a few plays here and there.Well I guess you don't think so, huh?
 
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Seahawks | Wallace to continue seeing repsPublished Wed Aug 9 12:29:00 p.m. PT 2006(KFFL) Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports Seattle Seahawks QB Seneca Wallace is receiving lots of reps in practice and is expected to continue to do so during the exhibition season. The Seahawks' coaching staff wants to be as comfortable with Wallace should there be a chance he is called upon during the regular season.
 

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