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Sam Bradford signs (1 Viewer)

Note: The article says $78 mil, but that doesn't include the $8 in incentives he could earn, per Bernie Miklasz of the St. Louis Post Dispatch.

 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.

So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.

 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
You're talking to a guy that prematurely bought a custom Suh Rams jersey at Week 17 last season when the Rams were assured of #1 overall. I was convinced that the Rams weren't dumb enough to screw up and take someone other than him.I was wrong, and now I have a worthless jersey to prove it.
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
You're talking to a guy that prematurely bought a custom Suh Rams jersey at Week 17 last season when the Rams were assured of #1 overall. I was convinced that the Rams weren't dumb enough to screw up and take someone other than him.I was wrong, and now I have a worthless jersey to prove it.
I would wear it proudly at Rams home games.
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
You're talking to a guy that prematurely bought a custom Suh Rams jersey at Week 17 last season when the Rams were assured of #1 overall. I was convinced that the Rams weren't dumb enough to screw up and take someone other than him.I was wrong, and now I have a worthless jersey to prove it.
I would wear it proudly at Rams home games.
Oh, I'm still keeping it in case Bradford becomes a bust and Suh becomes the next Warren Sapp.
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
You're talking to a guy that prematurely bought a custom Suh Rams jersey at Week 17 last season when the Rams were assured of #1 overall. I was convinced that the Rams weren't dumb enough to screw up and take someone other than him.I was wrong, and now I have a worthless jersey to prove it.
I would wear it proudly at Rams home games.
Oh, I'm still keeping it in case Bradford becomes a bust and Suh becomes the next Warren Sapp.
Did you just drop your Rams ID under your log in and avatar? That's messed up! :D
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
You're talking to a guy that prematurely bought a custom Suh Rams jersey at Week 17 last season when the Rams were assured of #1 overall. I was convinced that the Rams weren't dumb enough to screw up and take someone other than him.I was wrong, and now I have a worthless jersey to prove it.
I firmly believe Suh would have been the better choice but I'll stay on record as saying Bradford will be better than half the QBs taken #1 in the last 20 years. About equal to Stafford, the rest are fairly obvious.
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
You're talking to a guy that prematurely bought a custom Suh Rams jersey at Week 17 last season when the Rams were assured of #1 overall. I was convinced that the Rams weren't dumb enough to screw up and take someone other than him.I was wrong, and now I have a worthless jersey to prove it.
I would wear it proudly at Rams home games.
Oh, I'm still keeping it in case Bradford becomes a bust and Suh becomes the next Warren Sapp.
Did you just drop your Rams ID under your log in and avatar? That's messed up! :D
Being a Rams fan can be depressing.
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
 
$50 million guaranteed for a historically 50% chance of him becoming a legit NFL starter is INSANE.

I still can't understand why NFL rookies get so much money when so many of them fail and fail terribly.

 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
Hi Wick, not sure I understand what you are really asking. I just feel strongly about Bradford and the slow decline of the Rams over the psast 5+ years. Apparently Bulger got old overnight and in his very early 30s. He also was sacked more than any other QB I can think of the past few years. I see nothing about Bradford that is going to help this and Idon't see the St Louis defense doing much better either. The Rams were within a game of tying Detroit for the worst record ever. Players are different, nothing about Matt Ryan is the same as Matt Stafford, same can be said about Bradford. All his highlights from his Junior year show him with no pass rush anywhere near him and he was able to serve afternoon tea in the midst of throwing the football. Wide open throwing lanes and he won't have any of that in St Louis. When he got some pressure as a Senior at OK, he didn't respond very well...I just feel he was made better by the system. I'm not saying he will flop like Russell, but I feel in 3 years the folks making excuses for him will say that he didn't have a team to work with around him...I'm stating that now. But Go Rams, I have nothing against them or their fans. I hope for better days for all of you :D
 
Well, I'm psyched, at least. :excited:

Hoped for Suh in blue & gold for months on end, but slowly came to the realization that it wasn't happening, and came to accept Bradford as the Rams' future QB. At some point you have to leave the coulda-woulda-shoulda behind and enjoy what's coming next.

:shrug:

 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.

So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
Hi Wick, not sure I understand what you are really asking. I just feel strongly about Bradford and the slow decline of the Rams over the psast 5+ years. Apparently Bulger got old overnight and in his very early 30s. He also was sacked more than any other QB I can think of the past few years. I see nothing about Bradford that is going to help this and Idon't see the St Louis defense doing much better either. The Rams were within a game of tying Detroit for the worst record ever. Players are different, nothing about Matt Ryan is the same as Matt Stafford, same can be said about Bradford. All his highlights from his Junior year show him with no pass rush anywhere near him and he was able to serve afternoon tea in the midst of throwing the football. Wide open throwing lanes and he won't have any of that in St Louis. When he got some pressure as a Senior at OK, he didn't respond very well...I just feel he was made better by the system. I'm not saying he will flop like Russell, but I feel in 3 years the folks making excuses for him will say that he didn't have a team to work with around him...I'm stating that now.

But Go Rams, I have nothing against them or their fans. I hope for better days for all of you :ph34r:
I'm not a scout and haven't watched all his college games but here is what I seeBig

Strong Arm

Athletic

Smart

Loves football

I'm not sure what makes you think he can't adapt or any young quaterback for that matter can't adapt to a tougher situation / different system than what the played in college.

Bulger quit on this team 3 years ago and doesn't have the sack to be an NFL quaterback.

I don't think Bradford will step in and set the world on fire but regardless the 1st pick was going to get HUGE money atleast a QB/face of franchise player has a chance to be worth that kind of jack.

Atlanta was in absolute shambles after the 2007 season everyone was sure they would take years to rebuild new coach comes in and they draft a QB/Leader and they reel off some wins and are now a legitimate contender in their division year after year. What if they had taken Glenn Dorsey as many of their fans and NFL fans were crying for.

Detroit still didn't win many games last year but even before the draft this year everyone had a different outlook on their future after Stafford showed so well in 2009. What if they had passed on Stafford and taken one of the trench players #1?

I think the Rams are a year behind the Lions but their story will be much the same going into 2011.

There are plenty of examples of early QBs busting and setting franchises back, but just have many have brought franchises back from the dead.

Edit * fixed a few of the many spelling and grammar errors...I'm tired

 
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I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
You're talking to a guy that prematurely bought a custom Suh Rams jersey at Week 17 last season when the Rams were assured of #1 overall. I was convinced that the Rams weren't dumb enough to screw up and take someone other than him.I was wrong, and now I have a worthless jersey to prove it.
I would wear it proudly at Rams home games.
Oh, I'm still keeping it in case Bradford becomes a bust and Suh becomes the next Warren Sapp.
That doesn't make any sense. If you think it was the wrong move, wear it now like you got a pair and call your shot. Waiting until the dust settles four years from now to pull it out and say "I told you so" isn't any way to be.
 
I wanted the Rams to trade down, almost regardless of the cost. The players at the top of the draft are simply so massively overpaid that they almost never live up to the hype.

That said, if you are going to draft a QB, sooner is better than later. QBs take time to develop, waiting until next year is just putting that development off another year.

Hitting on a few draft picks and signing a few good FAs can turn a team around very quickly. The Rams have been mostly missing on the draft picks; if that continues, it doesn't matter who they take, it is all academic.

Injuries to the Oline have been a huge problem.... but injuries aren't a given. J.Brown, J.Smith, and R.Saffold COULD be a very good trio to build on. They are reason for hope, and a few good Olinemen can help average players like Jacob Bell be adequate.

We don't have all the information we need about Bradford, but (not facing pressure) /= (not being able to face pressure). He has all the tools and the smarts, let's see the guy play before we bury him.

 
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I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
Hi Wick, not sure I understand what you are really asking. I just feel strongly about Bradford and the slow decline of the Rams over the psast 5+ years. Apparently Bulger got old overnight and in his very early 30s. He also was sacked more than any other QB I can think of the past few years. I see nothing about Bradford that is going to help this and Idon't see the St Louis defense doing much better either. The Rams were within a game of tying Detroit for the worst record ever. Players are different, nothing about Matt Ryan is the same as Matt Stafford, same can be said about Bradford. All his highlights from his Junior year show him with no pass rush anywhere near him and he was able to serve afternoon tea in the midst of throwing the football. Wide open throwing lanes and he won't have any of that in St Louis. When he got some pressure as a Senior at OK, he didn't respond very well...I just feel he was made better by the system. I'm not saying he will flop like Russell, but I feel in 3 years the folks making excuses for him will say that he didn't have a team to work with around him...I'm stating that now. But Go Rams, I have nothing against them or their fans. I hope for better days for all of you :unsure:
I pretty much agree with MoPs post besides that he was a Sophmore when he won the Heisman and was a Junior when he got hurt. He is highly intelligent and an extremely good athelete but I do not know if he can overcome the gaps the Rams have in their pass protection. His only hope is to let Feeley get killed before he gets thrown to the wolves and feasted on.He's worth every bit of that contract though and he deserves $50M guaranteed because he's probably going to get killed out there. Might as well get something up front before the punishment begins.If he can just get some protection he will make the Rams fans happy for years to come.
 
I'll be Mr. Contrarian. I think Bradford will eventually be outstanding and I'm targeting him in every one of my dynasty leagues.

:unsure:

I would like to see the Rams get him a legit WR1 in the near future, however.

 
The beginning of the end of football in St. Louis.
The beginning? We're already in the third act and the big gal is warming up her vocal chords.
2007-2009 was merely a prelude. Why? Because there was still a chance that the Rams could find a few building blocks, spend their money wisely, and develop a foundation that would lead to a winning program.Now? They've got $50 million tied up with an injury-prone benchwarmer.

Up until today, St. Louis fans could honestly say "It's not over!!!" But now? The fat lady has sung.

But maybe it's easier and less humiliating to say that the franchise was already on the downward slide, I don't know. :unsure:

 
$50 million guaranteed for a historically 50% chance of him becoming a legit NFL starter is INSANE.I still can't understand why NFL rookies get so much money when so many of them fail and fail terribly.
As Drinen is fond of saying, "drafting a QB high is the worst way to acquire a franchise QB... except for all the other ways".
I wanted the Rams to trade down, almost regardless of the cost. The players at the top of the draft are simply so massively overpaid that they almost never live up to the hype.
Not true. The guys at the top of the round are actually pretty accurately paid, it's just that the guys later in the round are so ridiculously UNDERpaid that it makes them look overpaid by comparison.
 
I wanted the Rams to trade down, almost regardless of the cost. The players at the top of the draft are simply so massively overpaid that they almost never live up to the hype.
Not true. The guys at the top of the round are actually pretty accurately paid, it's just that the guys later in the round are so ridiculously UNDERpaid that it makes them look overpaid by comparison.
Just because his opinion is different than yours does not make it not true. Top first round picks do get paid an insane amount of money, especially when they haven't proven themselves on an NFL level when they sign.
 
:thumbup:

I'll go on record with my opinion that both Bradford's "injury-prone" label and the flimsiness of the Rams' OL are overstated. Doesn't mean I know how Bradford will turn out in the NFL, but I certainly think there's more reason for hope than the naysayers in here. While the line was healthy and Bulger was under center last year (as opposed to Boller or Null :X ), shockingly, their pass protection was actually pretty decent. Here we are a year later, and the team used another high pick on the o-line, and the pieces from last year have had time to work on their chemistry. Unless Bradford is a statue in the pocket (contrary to what he showed at Oklahoma and all the scouting reports) and the line suffers another rash of injuries, I think they can certainly do better than most expect.

Incredible that people are already equating Bradford with the death of the franchise, but we'll see soon enough. :thumbup:

 
Bradford has everything you look for in a QB. Big, strong, smart, accurate and fairly mobile. The Rams have two- young promising OT's in Smith and Staffold and a few pretty good interior o-lineman. They also have 3-4 #2 type of WR's in Avery, Robinson, Gibson and rookie Gilyard. They do lack that dominant #1 though. Maybe next year. But, it won't be nearly as bad as people think this year. Their D looks to be improved too.

 
Is paying a QB $50mil guaranteed that much worse than a DT $42mil guaranteed?

Only thing the Rams could have done to not give an asinine deal to their top pick was pass until about pick 5.

 
The responses on this thread condemning Bradford to failure before he has taken single snap in the NFL are a perfect example of Shark Pool groupthink and noise which the wise best filter out through observation and analysis.

 
The responses on this thread condemning Bradford to failure before he has taken single snap in the NFL are a perfect example of Shark Pool groupthink and noise which the wise best filter out through observation and analysis.
:thumbup: Got a good chuckle out of the exchange between Phoenix and MoP.
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
I have no idea why you brought up Stafford here. The guy had one great game against Cleveland, and outside of that had one of the worst rookie years in recent memory.
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
$14 million less total and $15 million less guaranteed for Ryan is a bargain, but he wasn't the top pick.
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
I have no idea why you brought up Stafford here. The guy had one great game against Cleveland, and outside of that had one of the worst rookie years in recent memory.
But the Lions are currently viewed as a team on the rise. A key part of their road back to legitimacy was drafting a young leader at the QB position.I assume your talking about his year statistically? Was it any worse than Peyton Mannings rookie year?
 
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I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
$14 million less total and $15 million less guaranteed for Ryan is a bargain, but he wasn't the top pick.
Its not like the Rams got to choose their draft spot..someone was going to get paid too much. I don't mind it being on someone who can have a HUGE impact on the franchise.
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
I have no idea why you brought up Stafford here. The guy had one great game against Cleveland, and outside of that had one of the worst rookie years in recent memory.
But the Lions are currently viewed as a team on the rise.
By whom??? Vegas has Detroit's over/under at 5 wins -- lowest in the entire NFL.
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
I have no idea why you brought up Stafford here. The guy had one great game against Cleveland, and outside of that had one of the worst rookie years in recent memory.
But the Lions are currently viewed as a team on the rise.
By whom??? Vegas has Detroit's over/under at 5 wins -- lowest in the entire NFL.
They won 2 games last year and that line at many books is being bet heavily on the OVERcurrently at sportbook.comDetroit Over 5 -130If the Lions weren't in a division with the Packers and Vikings they'd be getting much more run as a sleeper team.Rams are also at 5 . Browns, Bills, and Bucs are at 5.5
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
I have no idea why you brought up Stafford here. The guy had one great game against Cleveland, and outside of that had one of the worst rookie years in recent memory.
Would the Lions have been in a better position today had they drafted Aaron Curry or Jason Smith?
 
I think Bradford is an elite talent and is the best qb prospect to come out in a while, but these salaries rookies get are a little out of whack in the NFL. I wonder if that is going to be addressed in the next labor talks.

 
Just because his opinion is different than yours does not make it not true. Top first round picks do get paid an insane amount of money, especially when they haven't proven themselves on an NFL level when they sign.
When two Harvard economists publish perhaps the most-dissected NFL study of all time (discussion of the study available here, here, here, and here, just for starters) showing that draft picks at all levels receive less money than a 6-year veteran free agent would receive for a comparable level of performance (skip to pages 42 and 43 for the graph illustrating the concept), then it goes a pretty long way towards dispelling the myth that high draft picks, in general, are overpaid. No, the #1 overall draft pick isn't quite as much of a bargain as an early second rounder... but that doesn't change the fact that he's still a MUCH better bargain than a comparable free agent (assuming a comparable free agent ever becomes available- the only QBs with Bradford's potential who has hit the market in recent memory have been Cutler, Brees, and Culpepper. Culpepper was a total bust, Brees was only available because he was coming off a major injury to his arm that people speculated might end his career, and Cutler cost two firsts, a third, and one of the biggest QB contracts in the NFL).Now, it's possible for high draft picks in general to be underpaid... but Sam Bradford in particular to be overpaid. I mean, just because on the whole top-5 draft picks wind up outproducing their contracts doesn't magically mean that Jamarcus Russell was worth $60 million. Still, any such claims (that Sam Bradford in particular is overpaid) should focus more on the specific attributes relating to Bradford that lead the poster to think he is overpaid, and focus less on the size of his contract (which is in line with his draft position and relatively lower than would be expected of a comparable free agent) or the position that he was drafted in (which, by and large, has tended to outperform its contracts).

 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
I have no idea why you brought up Stafford here. The guy had one great game against Cleveland, and outside of that had one of the worst rookie years in recent memory.
Stafford did not have a bad year unless you judge him solely on statistics.
 
I posted before the Rams drafted him that he would set the franchise back at least 5 years and my opinion has not changed.So many holes to fill and so much money wrapped up in a position they can neither protect or exploit, good luck Rams fans.
Did you say the same about Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford?
$14 million less total and $15 million less guaranteed for Ryan is a bargain, but he wasn't the top pick.
Its not like the Rams got to choose their draft spot..someone was going to get paid too much. I don't mind it being on someone who can have a HUGE impact on the franchise.
Yep, which is why the system needs to change. Heck, some of these lesser teams would be better off if the rookie draft were simply free agency. Never happen, but at least then they would have more options.
 
Stafford did not have a bad year unless you judge him solely on statistics.
I realize we're hijacking here but were you impressed with his rookie season? I didn't see him play except Thanksgiving, but his stats including INTs, AY/A, and Y/A actually appear worse as the season wore on aside from the game against the Browns. The other defenses he played against were solid to very good, so I'm sure that's a big part of it. But as you almost certainly saw more than most of us, what impressed you about his play?
 
Bradford will be a stud, IMO. I believe he's the best QB prospect to come out in awhile.

Cheer up St. Louis fans. You're on the way up this kid.

 

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