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Sam Hurd: "Felix Jones is 10x better than Brian Westbrook" (1 Viewer)

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To maximize his ever-expanding role in the Dallas Cowboys' offense, Felix Jones has spent time lately looking at tape of versatile backs such as Philadelphia's Brian Westbrook.

But to wide receiver Sam Hurd, maybe it's Westbrook that should consider studying Jones.

“He's 10 times better than Brian Westbrook,” Hurd said. “And I like Brian Westbrook. I've always liked him. He's a great player. I mean, awesome.

“But Felix, man. Like I always say, I ain't ever seen nothing like Felix Jones.”

That might qualify as hyperbole at this stage, but Hurd isn't alone in his high opinion of the second-year tailback from Arkansas.

In a training camp where Jones entered with some question of how he might recover from season-ending toe surgery that helped stop his rookie season after six games, he has responded by continually wowing the Alamodome crowd with his electrifying — and unhampered — quickness.

Cowboys coach Wade Phillips even referred to Jones as a “Pro Bowl-caliber” player last week. It was a comment that left the soft-spoken Jones about as stunned as he's prone to make a defender look with a single cut of his feet.

“Wow,” the 6-foot, 212-pound Jones said. “Yeah, you know, that's — I mean, I don't know what to say.

“Yeah, I want to be a Pro Bowler. And I'm glad my coach has that belief in me. I love it.”

The fact the Cowboys see such potential in Jones all but guarantees an increased role from the one that rendered him forgotten when he didn't get a single offensive touch against Washington last season.

The game snapped Jones' rookie franchise-record streak of scoring a touchdown in each of his first three NFL games.

He averaged 8.9 yards a rush and ran for three TDs on 30 attempts, and also averaged 27.1 yards with a TD on kick returns before injuring his hamstring six games into the season. He suffered his season-ending toe injury while rehabbing the hamstring.

But for his many highlights while healthy, his involvement in the offense never exceeded that of a traditional tailback — certainly not to the multifaceted levels the Cowboys seemed to hope.

From the look of things in camp, that's set to change.

Though he didn't catch many balls in college, Jones — a receiver his freshman year in high school — figures to become a bigger factor in the Cowboys' passing game as part of an evolving role that should also see increased carries as Marion Barber's backup.

“We had a lot of time to do different things during the offseason, where they find me at different positions,” Jones said. “I believe they have the confidence in me to have a little bit more of the playbook.”

He has been flanked wide and sent out on routes at times in camp, while motioning back to the backfield at others. Some plays see him share the backfield with Barber.

Plus, there's the “Razorback” formation — the Cowboys' variation of the Wildcat — as another way to feature Jones.

“You can't really put your finger on what we're doing, and I like that,” Jones said.

Anything, it would seem, to make Jones more like Westbrook.

Maybe even better.
 
Sam maybe you need to do a little something in the NFL like win a freaking starting job on a team - this should not be too hard given the wasteland that the cowboys WRs are this year, maybe then we can take your comments seriously.

 
Sam maybe you need to do a little something in the NFL like win a freaking starting job on a team - this should not be too hard given the wasteland that the cowboys WRs are this year, maybe then we can take your comments seriously.
Although I agree the comments from Hurd are way over the top F. Jones is very well on his way to becoming very fantasy worthy and this will be the last year to get him cheap.Also, not every coach in the NFL was a starting NFL player. In fact Madden never played a down in the NFL.
 
Sam maybe you need to do a little something in the NFL like win a freaking starting job on a team - this should not be too hard given the wasteland that the cowboys WRs are this year, maybe then we can take your comments seriously.
Although I agree the comments from Hurd are way over the top F. Jones is very well on his way to becoming very fantasy worthy and this will be the last year to get him cheap.Also, not every coach in the NFL was a starting NFL player. In fact Madden never played a down in the NFL.
I am not a Felix Jones hater at all but "10X better then Westbrook" just illustrates the audacity of some of the younger players in the league that have not earned their stripe just yet.
 
Sam maybe you need to do a little something in the NFL like win a freaking starting job on a team - this should not be too hard given the wasteland that the cowboys WRs are this year, maybe then we can take your comments seriously.
Although I agree the comments from Hurd are way over the top F. Jones is very well on his way to becoming very fantasy worthy and this will be the last year to get him cheap.Also, not every coach in the NFL was a starting NFL player. In fact Madden never played a down in the NFL.
I am not a Felix Jones hater at all but "10X better then Westbrook" just illustrates the audacity of some of the younger players in the league that have not earned their stripe just yet.
Agreed. But even if Hurd had earend his stripes the comment was over the top and silly anyways. The only relevant thing out of that article is Felix is wowing his teammates and coaches and it appears is in line for a big increase in touches and fantasy impact this season.
 
I'm bumping up my projections for Felix Jones to take into account how he's going to average 45 yards per carry this year.

 
Sam maybe you need to do a little something in the NFL like win a freaking starting job on a team - this should not be too hard given the wasteland that the cowboys WRs are this year, maybe then we can take your comments seriously.
Not that I think these comments mean anything, but what would it matter if he starts or not. A backup can't evaluate talent? Would you have taken this more seriously if Roy Williams said it?
 
Sam maybe you need to do a little something in the NFL like win a freaking starting job on a team - this should not be too hard given the wasteland that the cowboys WRs are this year, maybe then we can take your comments seriously.
Not that I think these comments mean anything, but what would it matter if he starts or not. A backup can't evaluate talent? Would you have taken this more seriously if Roy Williams said it?
Not really since Roy Williams shouldn't be a starter either.Note to self - don't take Hurd seriously when it comes to math.
 
You guys are sooo hilarious with your taking everything soooo literally. This is just fluff/NFC East trash talking. Felix Jones should be good but until he wins games with clutch punt returns TDs, he can never be Brian Westbrook. Some of the things Westbrook have done when the Eagles needed him to do something have been amazing.

PS. Foot injuries are always the peskiest. If he injures it again, expect a trend to develop.

 
Does anyone else think it's funny that his big weeks came against the vaunted run Ds of Cleveland, Cinci and Green Bay? The other weeks against Washington, Philly and AZ he had zero, 10 and 22 yards. Hopefully he will become a receiving threat to raise his fantasy production for those dud weeks after catching only 2 passes for 10 yards in 6 games.

He obviously has great potential, but only at a decent price. Admittedly, I'm bummed because I'd like to own him in at least 1 league, but I fear people will start drafting him at his upside potential mark.

 
Sam maybe you need to do a little something in the NFL like win a freaking starting job on a team - this should not be too hard given the wasteland that the cowboys WRs are this year, maybe then we can take your comments seriously.
Not that I think these comments mean anything, but what would it matter if he starts or not. A backup can't evaluate talent? Would you have taken this more seriously if Roy Williams said it?
I am only pointing out that Hurd has done nothing in my book to make me give merit to his opinion. Sure a backup can evaluate talent but that does not mean it has any merit.
 
Sam maybe you need to do a little something in the NFL like win a freaking starting job on a team - this should not be too hard given the wasteland that the cowboys WRs are this year, maybe then we can take your comments seriously.
Not that I think these comments mean anything, but what would it matter if he starts or not. A backup can't evaluate talent? Would you have taken this more seriously if Roy Williams said it?
I am only pointing out that Hurd has done nothing in my book to make me give merit to his opinion. Sure a backup can evaluate talent but that does not mean it has any merit.
So who can give an opinion that has merit? If Tony Romo said it would it mean anything? Bill Parcells? John Madden? It's meaningless pre-season fluff and if Sam Hurd was a 5 time MVP I wouldn't take it to mean anything either. Athletic ability and evaluating talent have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
 
It sounds like Felix has been hanging out with Michael Irvin...
reading comprehension > youI am a big believer in Felix's abilities, but saying he's better than Westbrook is absurd at this point. After another year or two, probably not.
 
Sam maybe you need to do a little something in the NFL like win a freaking starting job on a team - this should not be too hard given the wasteland that the cowboys WRs are this year, maybe then we can take your comments seriously.
Not that I think these comments mean anything, but what would it matter if he starts or not. A backup can't evaluate talent? Would you have taken this more seriously if Roy Williams said it?
I am only pointing out that Hurd has done nothing in my book to make me give merit to his opinion. Sure a backup can evaluate talent but that does not mean it has any merit.
So who can give an opinion that has merit? If Tony Romo said it would it mean anything? Bill Parcells? John Madden? It's meaningless pre-season fluff and if Sam Hurd was a 5 time MVP I wouldn't take it to mean anything either.

Athletic ability and evaluating talent have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
An MVP wouldn't say something so ridiculous.But had an accomplished vet said something extremely positive about Felix, I'd give that some weight.

 
Sam maybe you need to do a little something in the NFL like win a freaking starting job on a team - this should not be too hard given the wasteland that the cowboys WRs are this year, maybe then we can take your comments seriously.
Not that I think these comments mean anything, but what would it matter if he starts or not. A backup can't evaluate talent? Would you have taken this more seriously if Roy Williams said it?
I am only pointing out that Hurd has done nothing in my book to make me give merit to his opinion. Sure a backup can evaluate talent but that does not mean it has any merit.
So who can give an opinion that has merit? If Tony Romo said it would it mean anything? Bill Parcells? John Madden? It's meaningless pre-season fluff and if Sam Hurd was a 5 time MVP I wouldn't take it to mean anything either.

Athletic ability and evaluating talent have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
An MVP wouldn't say something so ridiculous.But had an accomplished vet said something extremely positive about Felix, I'd give that some weight.
Exactly.
 
I find this somewhat refreshing...usually we hear players hyping themselves this time of the year (i.e. best shape ever or I'm gonna run for 2,000 yards)...it's not too often outlandish comments are made towards another player...now that's very unselfish of Sam Hurd.

 
Sam maybe you need to do a little something in the NFL like win a freaking starting job on a team - this should not be too hard given the wasteland that the cowboys WRs are this year, maybe then we can take your comments seriously.
Although I agree the comments from Hurd are way over the top F. Jones is very well on his way to becoming very fantasy worthy and this will be the last year to get him cheap.Also, not every coach in the NFL was a starting NFL player. In fact Madden never played a down in the NFL.
I am not a Felix Jones hater at all but "10X better then Westbrook" just illustrates the audacity of some of the younger players in the league that have not earned their stripe just yet.
Agreed. But even if Hurd had earend his stripes the comment was over the top and silly anyways. The only relevant thing out of that article is Felix is wowing his teammates and coaches and it appears is in line for a big increase in touches and fantasy impact this season.
"The only relevant thing"????Wow, you guys are missing the really big news in this story! That's right, it's not that Jones is 10x better than Westbrook because that's merely subjective hyperbole. Nope, it's that Jones has grown 2 inches since last year!!! That's an objective measurement that can't be questioned!!! Well done Felix, you've recovered from the two injury AND developed a new type of growth training program! All aboard!!!
 
Nope, it's that Jones has grown 2 inches since last year!!! That's an objective measurement that can't be questioned!!! Well done Felix, you've recovered from the two injury AND developed a new type of growth training program! All aboard!!!
Jones was 6' last year as well :moneybag: If anything, he shrunk as he was listed at 6'1" in college

FWIW, he was listed at 5'11" coming out of high school.

 
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Does anyone else think it's funny that his big weeks came against the vaunted run Ds of Cleveland, Cinci and Green Bay? The other weeks against Washington, Philly and AZ he had zero, 10 and 22 yards. Hopefully he will become a receiving threat to raise his fantasy production for those dud weeks after catching only 2 passes for 10 yards in 6 games.
Let's see - could it be because he totaled 6 carries across those three games? 0 in WAS, 3 in PHI, 3 in AZ... in case you're doing the math, that's still 5.3 YPC. It's not like he got shut down running the ball, he just wasn't really used... that won't happen this season.Talk about taking stats out of context in an effort to make a player look bad, wow
 
Does anyone else think it's funny that his big weeks came against the vaunted run Ds of Cleveland, Cinci and Green Bay? The other weeks against Washington, Philly and AZ he had zero, 10 and 22 yards. Hopefully he will become a receiving threat to raise his fantasy production for those dud weeks after catching only 2 passes for 10 yards in 6 games.
Let's see - could it be because he totaled 6 carries across those three games? 0 in WAS, 3 in PHI, 3 in AZ... in case you're doing the math, that's still 5.3 YPC. It's not like he got shut down running the ball, he just wasn't really used... that won't happen this season.Talk about taking stats out of context in an effort to make a player look bad, wow
In your opinion what does the Dallas coaching staff not see in him that you do?
 
Does anyone else think it's funny that his big weeks came against the vaunted run Ds of Cleveland, Cinci and Green Bay? The other weeks against Washington, Philly and AZ he had zero, 10 and 22 yards. Hopefully he will become a receiving threat to raise his fantasy production for those dud weeks after catching only 2 passes for 10 yards in 6 games.
Let's see - could it be because he totaled 6 carries across those three games? 0 in WAS, 3 in PHI, 3 in AZ... in case you're doing the math, that's still 5.3 YPC. It's not like he got shut down running the ball, he just wasn't really used... that won't happen this season.Talk about taking stats out of context in an effort to make a player look bad, wow
In your opinion what does the Dallas coaching staff not see in him that you do?
:popcorn: What do you mean?
 
Does anyone else think it's funny that his big weeks came against the vaunted run Ds of Cleveland, Cinci and Green Bay? The other weeks against Washington, Philly and AZ he had zero, 10 and 22 yards. Hopefully he will become a receiving threat to raise his fantasy production for those dud weeks after catching only 2 passes for 10 yards in 6 games.
Let's see - could it be because he totaled 6 carries across those three games? 0 in WAS, 3 in PHI, 3 in AZ... in case you're doing the math, that's still 5.3 YPC. It's not like he got shut down running the ball, he just wasn't really used... that won't happen this season.Talk about taking stats out of context in an effort to make a player look bad, wow
In your opinion what does the Dallas coaching staff not see in him that you do?
:lmao: What do you mean?
I think he is asking why Felix only got 6 carries in those 3 games? If he's such a bit threat (which I think he is), then why did only get those carries? What do you (switz) see in Felix that the coaching staff doesn't?
 
Does anyone else think it's funny that his big weeks came against the vaunted run Ds of Cleveland, Cinci and Green Bay? The other weeks against Washington, Philly and AZ he had zero, 10 and 22 yards. Hopefully he will become a receiving threat to raise his fantasy production for those dud weeks after catching only 2 passes for 10 yards in 6 games.
Let's see - could it be because he totaled 6 carries across those three games? 0 in WAS, 3 in PHI, 3 in AZ... in case you're doing the math, that's still 5.3 YPC. It's not like he got shut down running the ball, he just wasn't really used... that won't happen this season.Talk about taking stats out of context in an effort to make a player look bad, wow
In your opinion what does the Dallas coaching staff not see in him that you do?
:lmao: What do you mean?
I think he is asking why Felix only got 6 carries in those 3 games? If he's such a bit threat (which I think he is), then why did only get those carries? What do you (switz) see in Felix that the coaching staff doesn't?
Exactly. These were important games to the cowboys why only 6 carries? Special Note: I have not formed my opinion of Felix Jones yet.
 
chidoy said:
switz said:
perry147 said:
switz said:
Does anyone else think it's funny that his big weeks came against the vaunted run Ds of Cleveland, Cinci and Green Bay? The other weeks against Washington, Philly and AZ he had zero, 10 and 22 yards. Hopefully he will become a receiving threat to raise his fantasy production for those dud weeks after catching only 2 passes for 10 yards in 6 games.
Let's see - could it be because he totaled 6 carries across those three games? 0 in WAS, 3 in PHI, 3 in AZ... in case you're doing the math, that's still 5.3 YPC. It's not like he got shut down running the ball, he just wasn't really used... that won't happen this season.Talk about taking stats out of context in an effort to make a player look bad, wow
In your opinion what does the Dallas coaching staff not see in him that you do?
:confused: What do you mean?
I think he is asking why Felix only got 6 carries in those 3 games? If he's such a bit threat (which I think he is), then why did only get those carries? What do you (switz) see in Felix that the coaching staff doesn't?
I don't think I see anything the coaches don't. It's just a huge mistake for someone to think the reason Jones didn't see a lot of carries was because the coaches felt he wasn't good enough to play. There are a plethora of other reason he saw limited action - including Garrett abandoning the run in general, Jones being a rookie, Barber being a better pass blocker, etc.Anyone looking at last year as a basis for how the Cowboys will use their RBs, or as a means to evaluate the RBs abilities will be sorely disappointed this year
 
switz said:
wdcrob said:
Hurd's smarter than he sounds. Felix is the real deal.
Let people laugh... let them miss out on one of the best RBs coming into the league in years and years.
Wow, don't do this to yourself.ETA: You don't want another Chris Johnson type pwnage, do you?
 
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