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Sammy Morris Revival Tour (1 Viewer)

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In lieu of Maroney and Jordan missing practice; we know how fragile Maroney is and Jordan has chronic back issues. While both could still be available for Sunday's home game against Miami - there is now at least some reason to doubt it.

If Maroney and Jordan are inactive come Sunday - what is the ceiling for Sammy Morris? Would 100 & TD be on the radar screen?

 
grouse said:
In lieu of Maroney and Jordan missing practice; we know how fragile Maroney is and Jordan has chronic back issues. While both could still be available for Sunday's home game against Miami - there is now at least some reason to doubt it.



If Maroney and Jordan are inactive come Sunday - what is the ceiling for Sammy Morris? Would 100 & TD be on the radar screen?
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That's a pretty far leap, isn't it? It is only Wednesday. But as for your question, I think 100/1 is possible.

 
Texican said:
grouse said:
In lieu of Maroney and Jordan missing practice; we know how fragile Maroney is and Jordan has chronic back issues. While both could still be available for Sunday's home game against Miami - there is now at least some reason to doubt it.



If Maroney and Jordan are inactive come Sunday - what is the ceiling for Sammy Morris? Would 100 & TD be on the radar screen?
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That's a pretty far leap, isn't it? It is only Wednesday. But as for your question, I think 100/1 is possible.
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Not so far a leap as per Roto: "LaMont Jordan (foot) did not take part in Patriots practice Wednesday. Patriots that have "no practice" on any given day during the week typically are inactive on Sundays. Sammy Morris needs to be owned in fantasy leagues across the world, as he appears in line to start vs. the Dolphins." (end of quote)FYI - Maroney did not practice today either. It seems, at first blush, that Morris will start Sunday.

 
grouse said:
In lieu of Maroney and Jordan missing practice; we know how fragile Maroney is and Jordan has chronic back issues. While both could still be available for Sunday's home game against Miami - there is now at least some reason to doubt it.If Maroney and Jordan are inactive come Sunday - what is the ceiling for Sammy Morris? Would 100 & TD be on the radar screen?
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The same Sammy Morris that ran it 8 times for 0 yards vs the Jets?More like 1000/1
 
that's asking A LOT from a guy who posted (iirc) about 7 rushes for ZERO yards last week - with a TD.

IF both Maroney and Jordan are out/inactive (doubtful that happens), Morris will be a decent play for a TD or two, but I wouln't even try to guess how many yards he might add. Faulk will get more love if that's the case, ending up in a split and taking most of the receptions in the process.

Morris is a TD only league value play - like the old days of Leroy Hoard. Not sure I'd want to start him in a performance format unless @ flex praying for 2 tds.

 
Cenobite said:
Texican said:
grouse said:
In lieu of Maroney and Jordan missing practice; we know how fragile Maroney is and Jordan has chronic back issues. While both could still be available for Sunday's home game against Miami - there is now at least some reason to doubt it.



If Maroney and Jordan are inactive come Sunday - what is the ceiling for Sammy Morris? Would 100 & TD be on the radar screen?
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That's a pretty far leap, isn't it? It is only Wednesday. But as for your question, I think 100/1 is possible.
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Not so far a leap as per Roto: "LaMont Jordan (foot) did not take part in Patriots practice Wednesday. Patriots that have "no practice" on any given day during the week typically are inactive on Sundays. Sammy Morris needs to be owned in fantasy leagues across the world, as he appears in line to start vs. the Dolphins." (end of quote)FYI - Maroney did not practice today either. It seems, at first blush, that Morris will start Sunday.
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Where to go with all this . . .For starters, I caution anyone to take Rotoworld's comments as worth much of anything. They are TOTAL speculation and quite frequently are wrong.

As for Maroney and Jordan not practicing, Belichick many times has guys (by design) miss the first day of practice but they are often practicing the next day and full participants by the end of the week. So the "always inactive on Sunday" part of the equation is not accurate in my book. Where the "inactive" piece typically comes up is when players have not practiced ALL WEEK who have already MISSED GAME TIME. So if they want to make that a general comment on guys not practicing and being inactive, sure. But not from missing a single practice.

That being said, I don't know what the deal is with these two but certainly I will report back once I know something. Given that both of these guys took snaps and carries very late in the game, I'm curious how severe their injuries could be if they were still in the game.

We should be able to decipher this well before game day.

As for what Morris "might" do in this scenario, I would not rule out the other guys (Faulk and Evans) from also seeing more work. But we'll tackle that once we know who will be suiting up . . .

To be clear, I am not saying they will or won't play, as we will likely know by Friday what the deal is for both of them.

 
You know, I was thinking that Lamont Jordan got the bulk of the carries since he was playing his old team (the Jets) and that Sammy Morris would get more carries than Jordan against Miami, as if NE was showing that they can beat them with the other team's castoffs. With Maroney and Jordan banged up, this scenerio looks even more likely, but it's really just a gut feeling.

 
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krash said:
You know, I was thinking that Lamont Jordan got the bulk of the carries since he was playing his old team (the Jets) and that Sammy Morris would get more carries than Jordan against Miami, as if NE was showing that they can beat them with the other team's castoffs. With Maroney and Jordan banged up, this scenerio looks even more likely, but it's really just a gut feeling.
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It isn't so much NE showing that they can beat them with the other team's castoffs as it is the Dark Sith Lord telling the young jedi to use his hate.
 
For those that are interested, I have been told it's too soon to tell what the deal will be on Sunday for Jordan and Maroney. But Ben Watson should be making his seasonal debut this week.

 
Cenobite said:
Texican said:
grouse said:
In lieu of Maroney and Jordan missing practice; we know how fragile Maroney is and Jordan has chronic back issues. While both could still be available for Sunday's home game against Miami - there is now at least some reason to doubt it.



If Maroney and Jordan are inactive come Sunday - what is the ceiling for Sammy Morris? Would 100 & TD be on the radar screen?
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That's a pretty far leap, isn't it? It is only Wednesday. But as for your question, I think 100/1 is possible.
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Not so far a leap as per Roto: "LaMont Jordan (foot) did not take part in Patriots practice Wednesday. Patriots that have "no practice" on any given day during the week typically are inactive on Sundays. Sammy Morris needs to be owned in fantasy leagues across the world, as he appears in line to start vs. the Dolphins." (end of quote)FYI - Maroney did not practice today either. It seems, at first blush, that Morris will start Sunday.
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Dang people!!!! it isn't far fetched that players have bad games, I mean for the love of god, Barry ran for -2 yards one time!!!
 
David Yudkin said:
For those that are interested, I have been told it's too soon to tell what the deal will be on Sunday for Jordan and Maroney. But Ben Watson should be making his seasonal debut this week.
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Please keep us updated David, your insights on the Pats are always spot on.
 
I'd love to get Morris in as the starter with the other 2 guys inactive. I think SM would approach 100 and 1 and then I might be able to hose someone in my league for him in a trade.

 
SeniorVBDStudent said:
krash said:
You know, I was thinking that Lamont Jordan got the bulk of the carries since he was playing his old team (the Jets) and that Sammy Morris would get more carries than Jordan against Miami, as if NE was showing that they can beat them with the other team's castoffs. With Maroney and Jordan banged up, this scenerio looks even more likely, but it's really just a gut feeling.
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It isn't so much NE showing that they can beat them with the other team's castoffs as it is the Dark Sith Lord telling the young jedi to use his hate.
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for some reason, this made me smile very much. i grock. (and yes, i am a nerd... but's its OK because its by choice--i like it.)
 
The plot thickens. Maroney and Jordan not participating in the beginning of practice today. We'll see if they make an appearance later as practice only started a little while ago . . .

 
He could very well be a sneaky start this week.

I dropped him as my Maroney handcuff

to pick up DeShaun Foster as my Gore handcuff

just before the start of the season.

:lmao:

 
When will the report come out today as to who practiced or didn't for the pats? Once that is out I may have some info to share that is interesting. But first I need to know who was involved in practice.

 
David Yudkin said:
Where the "inactive" piece typically comes up is when players have not practiced ALL WEEK who have already MISSED GAME TIME. So if they want to make that a general comment on guys not practicing and being inactive, sure. But not from missing a single practice.
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:lmao:Typical fact-checking from Rotoworld.The few times Rotoworld has gotten something completely right is by pure accident.
 
BTW - the biggest beneficiary of both Maroney and Jordan out is not Morris. It is Cassel, Faulk, Moss and Welker.

I expect the Pats to top 350 pass yards this week, regardless of the injuries - but if both runners are out, expect Belichik to use this game to allow Cassel to open it up. Why not? What's to lose? Certainly not the GAME.

 
Marc Levin said:
BTW - the biggest beneficiary of both Maroney and Jordan out is not Morris. It is Cassel, Faulk, Moss and Welker.I expect the Pats to top 350 pass yards this week, regardless of the injuries - but if both runners are out, expect Belichik to use this game to allow Cassel to open it up. Why not? What's to lose? Certainly not the GAME.
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:thumbdown: Cassel gonna throw 60 times?
 
If I had Morris, I'd start 'em. Even if Jordan and Maroney are active, chances are they will be very limited, and seeing how Miami D has played so far, the 'featured back' in New England will be very valuable this week.

 
3C said:
Marc Levin said:
BTW - the biggest beneficiary of both Maroney and Jordan out is not Morris. It is Cassel, Faulk, Moss and Welker.I expect the Pats to top 350 pass yards this week, regardless of the injuries - but if both runners are out, expect Belichik to use this game to allow Cassel to open it up. Why not? What's to lose? Certainly not the GAME.
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:yawn: Cassel gonna throw 60 times?
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Against Miami, Belichik will let Cassel throw deep.I would not be surprised if he flirted with an 8.5 YPA average this week (that would put him at 350 on 41 passes)
 
Polish Hammer said:
When will the report come out today as to who practiced or didn't for the pats? Once that is out I may have some info to share that is interesting. But first I need to know who was involved in practice.
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The Patriots released their Thursday participation report:Did Not Participate in PracticeLB Eric Alexander (calf)RB LaMont Jordan (foot)WR Kelley Washington (ankle)RB Laurence Maroney (shoulder)Limited Participation in PracticeNT Vince Wilfork (back)
 
David Yudkin said:
Polish Hammer said:
When will the report come out today as to who practiced or didn't for the pats? Once that is out I may have some info to share that is interesting. But first I need to know who was involved in practice.
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The Patriots released their Thursday participation report:Did Not Participate in PracticeLB Eric Alexander (calf)RB LaMont Jordan (foot)WR Kelley Washington (ankle)RB Laurence Maroney (shoulder)Limited Participation in PracticeNT Vince Wilfork (back)
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Looking more and more like no Jordan. Maroney is a given. When will everyone just listen about that clown, but I digress. Morris will be as good a play as any #2 RB this week against Miami and certainly the best waiver wire play you can make at RB.
 
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Fantaholic said:
David Yudkin said:
Polish Hammer said:
When will the report come out today as to who practiced or didn't for the pats? Once that is out I may have some info to share that is interesting. But first I need to know who was involved in practice.
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The Patriots released their Thursday participation report:Did Not Participate in PracticeLB Eric Alexander (calf)RB LaMont Jordan (foot)WR Kelley Washington (ankle)RB Laurence Maroney (shoulder)Limited Participation in PracticeNT Vince Wilfork (back)
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Looking more and more like no Jordan. Maroney is a given. When will everyone just listen about that clown, but I digress. Morris will be as good a play as any #2 RB this week against Miami and certainly the best waiver wire play you can make at RB.
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Think I'm going to start him over Grant...unless I get really encouraging news from GB.
 
In putting on my Belichick hat, I'm starting to think that he will show as little as possible of the offense and stay conservative to win as many games as possible. I am openly wondering if he will save the bigger air attack for when he needs it in higher scoring games against stiffer competition. If opponents don't have much film on Cassel, that probably would work to the team's advantage when it counts.

I could be way off, but I still don't see the Pats ramping the offense up to full gear this week.

 
David Yudkin said:
In putting on my Belichick hat, I'm starting to think that he will show as little as possible of the offense and stay conservative to win as many games as possible. I am openly wondering if he will save the bigger air attack for when he needs it in higher scoring games against stiffer competition. If opponents don't have much film on Cassel, that probably would work to the team's advantage when it counts.I could be way off, but I still don't see the Pats ramping the offense up to full gear this week.
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Gotta test the kid at game speed before relying on his arm when you really need him.Weather should be perfect for football, and Cassel needs desperately to develop rhythm with his receivers before a situation where he HAS TO throw the ball.
 
Marc Levin said:
David Yudkin said:
In putting on my Belichick hat, I'm starting to think that he will show as little as possible of the offense and stay conservative to win as many games as possible. I am openly wondering if he will save the bigger air attack for when he needs it in higher scoring games against stiffer competition. If opponents don't have much film on Cassel, that probably would work to the team's advantage when it counts.I could be way off, but I still don't see the Pats ramping the offense up to full gear this week.
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Gotta test the kid at game speed before relying on his arm when you really need him.Weather should be perfect for football, and Cassel needs desperately to develop rhythm with his receivers before a situation where he HAS TO throw the ball.
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True, but they could open it up at San Francisco and give themselves run game development against Miami...
 
SeniorVBDStudent said:
Marc Levin said:
David Yudkin said:
In putting on my Belichick hat, I'm starting to think that he will show as little as possible of the offense and stay conservative to win as many games as possible. I am openly wondering if he will save the bigger air attack for when he needs it in higher scoring games against stiffer competition. If opponents don't have much film on Cassel, that probably would work to the team's advantage when it counts.I could be way off, but I still don't see the Pats ramping the offense up to full gear this week.
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Gotta test the kid at game speed before relying on his arm when you really need him.Weather should be perfect for football, and Cassel needs desperately to develop rhythm with his receivers before a situation where he HAS TO throw the ball.
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True, but they could open it up at San Francisco and give themselves run game development against Miami...
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True, but throwing a lot is best done at home when the mistakes can more easily be overcome. Candlestick can have some funky winds an dhwo knows whet the weather will be lik ein SF. It should be perfect weather in Foxboro, and even 3 INTs can be overcome by the Pats at home. On the road, maybe not so much.Look, both games should be tune-up games, but this week seems like the right week to let Cassel air it out.
 
Marc Levin said:
SeniorVBDStudent said:
Marc Levin said:
David Yudkin said:
In putting on my Belichick hat, I'm starting to think that he will show as little as possible of the offense and stay conservative to win as many games as possible. I am openly wondering if he will save the bigger air attack for when he needs it in higher scoring games against stiffer competition. If opponents don't have much film on Cassel, that probably would work to the team's advantage when it counts.I could be way off, but I still don't see the Pats ramping the offense up to full gear this week.
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Gotta test the kid at game speed before relying on his arm when you really need him.Weather should be perfect for football, and Cassel needs desperately to develop rhythm with his receivers before a situation where he HAS TO throw the ball.
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True, but they could open it up at San Francisco and give themselves run game development against Miami...
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True, but throwing a lot is best done at home when the mistakes can more easily be overcome. Candlestick can have some funky winds an dhwo knows whet the weather will be lik ein SF. It should be perfect weather in Foxboro, and even 3 INTs can be overcome by the Pats at home. On the road, maybe not so much.Look, both games should be tune-up games, but this week seems like the right week to let Cassel air it out.
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Starting Cassel over Frerotte, so I hope you are correct.
 
David Yudkin said:
In putting on my Belichick hat, I'm starting to think that he will show as little as possible of the offense and stay conservative to win as many games as possible. I am openly wondering if he will save the bigger air attack for when he needs it in higher scoring games against stiffer competition. If opponents don't have much film on Cassel, that probably would work to the team's advantage when it counts.I could be way off, but I still don't see the Pats ramping the offense up to full gear this week.
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I doubt it. I think he'll bring his best gameplan every week. Leaving wins(even fractional wins) on the table for the sake of disguise is a recipe for disaster.
 
As for the logical next question, no I do not know when they will be back or how serious their injuries are (bot of which certainly now come into the equation).

 
David Yudkin said:
beavers said:
David Yudkin said:
Routilla said:
Any more insight on the availability of Maroney and Jordan? I'd like to sneak Morris into my line-up. TIA.
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*** UPDATE ***I have been told that Maroney and Jordan most likely WILL NOT be playing Sunday. Make plans accordingly.
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I usually hate doing this but do you have a link to this?
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I am the link.
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:( Classic.....and true. Thanks for all the useful info on the Pats, I really look for nothing else but your updates...much appreciated.
 
David Yudkin said:
beavers said:
David Yudkin said:
Routilla said:
Any more insight on the availability of Maroney and Jordan? I'd like to sneak Morris into my line-up. TIA.
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*** UPDATE ***I have been told that Maroney and Jordan most likely WILL NOT be playing Sunday. Make plans accordingly.
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I usually hate doing this but do you have a link to this?
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I am the link.
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Truer words seldom typed.I'll take DY over a link any day.

 
Neo said:
David Yudkin said:
beavers said:
David Yudkin said:
Routilla said:
Any more insight on the availability of Maroney and Jordan? I'd like to sneak Morris into my line-up. TIA.
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*** UPDATE ***I have been told that Maroney and Jordan most likely WILL NOT be playing Sunday. Make plans accordingly.
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I usually hate doing this but do you have a link to this?
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I am the link.
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:confused: Classic.....and true. Thanks for all the useful info on the Pats, I really look for nothing else but your updates...much appreciated.
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That probably came off wrong, but I can't give a link when there are people telling me things from the field of Gillette Stadium.So if other "real" links state otherwise or these two get listed on the injury report in some other Belichickesque way, be prepared that they most likely won't play. Their condition could worsen to the point where they may be deactivated for Sunday altogether.

They also resigned Eckel to the main squad, which should tell you something . . .

Maybe they make a remarkable recovery by the end of the day and get listed as merely questionable officially by the end of today, but I'm hearing that it's looking very unlikely that they will play against the Phins.

 
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