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Just an observation, New England doing what they do best ( winning in January). and San Diego due for a loss. Just My Opinion for what its worth!

New England 24 San Diego 17

 
Never underestimate how important having a first round bye is.

Facing the Jets offense is a lot different than facing the Chargers offense, which has Tomlinson and Gates.

My early pick:

SD 31

NE 17

 
Ghost Rider said:
Never underestimate how important having a first round bye is.

Facing the Jets offense is a lot different than facing the Chargers offense, which has Tomlinson and Gates.

My early pick:

SD 31

NE 17
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I agree, thats why this thread was started as an observation and my prediction, no insult was intended to the chargers.. They are a great team but this is the playoffs and anyone can be beat. Bottom line.
 
The Chargers are overrated because while they have an epic offense, most overlook the fact that their defense is terribly overrated. They gave up a soft 303 points. They are vulnerable and I predict the Patriots will beat them in this matchup.

 
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most overlook the fact that their defense is terribly overrated. They gave up a soft 303 points.
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Maybe "most" look beyond PA and realize that the Chargers have been without major players (Merriman, Phillips, Olshansky, McCree, Castillo) on their defense for prolonged periods of time.
 
On paper this Pats/SD matchup to favor the Chargers. SD is at home, they have a great offensive player in LT and the #1 TE in Gates. That said, the Pats have some things going their way as well. First, they`re battle tested and have many playoff proven vets. Second, Brady and the coaching staff. The name of the game is adjustments and the Pats are the best at it. Third Rivers is young and has a coach that has had minimal playoff sucess to say the least. LT will get his but the SD WR`s may be less help than the NE WR`s if that`s possible. Should be a great matchup next Sunday. My prediction, especially if R Harrison`s back, NE 27 SD 20. :sarcasm:

 
Despyzer said:
BGP said:
most overlook the fact that their defense is terribly overrated. They gave up a soft 303 points.
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Maybe "most" look beyond PA and realize that the Chargers have been without major players (Merriman, Phillips, Olshansky, McCree, Castillo) on their defense for prolonged periods of time.
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Well when I say "soft" I refer to the fact that there are disturbing numbers underneath just the PA that I don't like at all.And you can't be sure that with those players they would have been a great defense. I suspect they wouldn't because the data I'm looking at is SO bad it probably would make no difference.
 
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purestrength said:
I'd love to see NE vs. Indy for the AFC championship in person in the RCA Dome.
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Maybe next year.
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No, I'm talking this year.If the Patriots can take care of their part of the bargain, I think the Colts can take care of theirs.Baltimore's D will not intimidate the Colts. Manning just needs to get back in regular-season form and play better than he did against the Chiefs, which is not too much to ask.
 
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Neither of these teams are the Seahawks. Why are we even caring about this?

Lofa Tatupu will eat your soul.

 
mad sweeney said:
Assani Fisher said:
sainttillidie said:
Just an observation, New England doing what they do best ( winning in January). and San Diego due for a loss. Just My Opinion for what its worth!

New England 24 San Diego 17
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I love logic like this. Great thread!
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With all their playoff wins in the last 6 years, isn't it more obvious to anyone who knows anything about football that it's the Pats who are due for a loss?
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As Berman would say, thats why they play the games! We'll see.
 
sainttillidie said:
Just an observation, New England doing what they do best ( winning in January). and San Diego due for a loss. Just My Opinion for what its worth!New England 24 San Diego 17
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Does that make Bellichick a genius for losing to the Jets and thus averting this calamity?
 
Smoo said:
Neither of these teams are the Seahawks. Why are we even caring about this?Lofa Tatupu will eat your soul.
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Smoo, i love your arrogance,if the SeaCanaries should meet up with the Saints, the wouldnt even be able to carry the saint's ball bag during pre game warmups. :hifive:
 
sainttillidie said:
sainttillidie said:
Air Coryell said:
sainttillidie said:
Just My Opinion for what its worth!
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With logic like that I believe its clear that its not worth all that much.
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Well, this is your opinion too, and it is not worth much either, Geaux Saints , We beleive. YEaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Who Dat, Where you at? Attack me and i will attack you, thats the way i was raised. :lmao:
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While its tough to debate such outstanding points such as "they're due to lose" and the patriots are doing what they do best, I'll give it shot.The Chargers being due to lose makes no sense. So you're saying if the Chargers had lost a game recently they would be more likely to win this game. That's just dumb. Were the 2003 patriots "due to lose" when they won 12 straight going into the playoffs. According to your logic they were, and they ended up winning the superbowl.As far as the Patriots doing what they do best(winning in January)Didn't the Patriots lose last year after they won the wildcard and then had to travel to Denver to play. If you're point is that they are unbeatable in January you are wrong. Then you back you're initial point up with such gems as thats why they play the games, and anyone can be beat. From the entire FBG community I want to thank you for clarifying that the playoff results haven't already been determined. If you want to backup your statement with some type of explanation of why the Patriots match up well with the Chargers I can respect that(as others have already done in this thread). You're post was just nonsense, you might as well said you flipped a coin to guess the outcome of the game and then decided to post here.
 
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Air Coryell said:
While its tough to debate such outstanding points such as "they're due to lose" and the patriots are doing what they do best, I'll give it shot.

The Chargers being due to lose makes no sense. So you're saying if the Chargers had lost a game recently they would be more likely to win this game. That's just dumb. Were the 2003 patriots "due to lose" when they won 12 straight going into the playoffs. According to your logic they were, and they ended up winning the superbowl.

As far as the Patriots doing what they do best(winning in January)

Didn't the Patriots lose last year after they won the wildcard and then had to travel to Denver to play. If you're point is that they are unbeatable in January you are wrong.

Then you back you're initial point up with such gems as thats why they play the games, and anyone can be beat. From the entire FBG community I want to thank you for clarifying that the playoff results haven't already been determined. If you want to backup your statement with some type of explanation of why the Patriots match up well with the Chargers I can respect that(as others have already done in this thread). You're post was just nonsense, you might as well said you flipped a coin to guess the outcome of the game and then decided to post here.
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:lmao: This is going up on the ownage thread
 
I'll give you a couple of reasons why the Patriots are a good matchup for the Chargers and might beat them:

1. Patriots have a great run defense. They will put the game on Rivers' shoulders. Can he handle it.

2. The Patriots have been tremendous on the road this year. They only lost at Miami where they traditionally struggle. They have been better on the road than at home.

Those are my 2 reasons why I think the Pats have a decent shot next week.

 
Pat Patriot said:
I'll give you a couple of reasons why the Patriots are a good matchup for the Chargers and might beat them:1. Patriots have a great run defense. They will put the game on Rivers' shoulders. Can he handle it.2. The Patriots have been tremendous on the road this year. They only lost at Miami where they traditionally struggle. They have been better on the road than at home.Those are my 2 reasons why I think the Pats have a decent shot next week.
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I'll add two more... Brady and Belichick.However...As good as the Patriots run defense is (5th in the league), the Chargers rushing offense was better (2nd).As good as the Patriots may have been on the road this year (7-1), the Chargers were even better than that at home (8-0).Really, the Chargers have been pretty damn good everywhere this year. Their only two losses came on last minute plays by a total of six points to KC and Baltimore, both of them playoff teams. The Chargers were >this< close to going undefeated this year.
 
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Pat Patriot said:
I'll give you a couple of reasons why the Patriots are a good matchup for the Chargers and might beat them:1. Patriots have a great run defense. They will put the game on Rivers' shoulders. Can he handle it.2. The Patriots have been tremendous on the road this year. They only lost at Miami where they traditionally struggle. They have been better on the road than at home.Those are my 2 reasons why I think the Pats have a decent shot next week.
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LT isn't just any RB though. Even on a down week he's good for 400 yards and 2TDs this year, right? :yes:
 
Pat Patriot said:
I'll give you a couple of reasons why the Patriots are a good matchup for the Chargers and might beat them:1. Patriots have a great run defense. They will put the game on Rivers' shoulders. Can he handle it.2. The Patriots have been tremendous on the road this year. They only lost at Miami where they traditionally struggle. They have been better on the road than at home.Those are my 2 reasons why I think the Pats have a decent shot next week.
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I think it will be a great game. Rivers is certainly the question mark. As long as he doesn't crack under the pressure, which I don't believe he will, I like the Chargers chances. I certainly can respect the Pats 7-1 road record, the only thing I respect more is the fact that the Chargers are 8-0 at home this year. As far as any knocks on Marty, he brought the Chargers on the road to New England 2 years ago in a place where no one had won in quite some time and walked away with a win. So he can match coaching skills with Bill. A long flight across the country and playing a team coming off a bye, and a rested LT are certainly things in the Chargers favor.
 
Despyzer said:
Pat Patriot said:
I'll give you a couple of reasons why the Patriots are a good matchup for the Chargers and might beat them:

1. Patriots have a great run defense. They will put the game on Rivers' shoulders. Can he handle it.

2. The Patriots have been tremendous on the road this year. They only lost at Miami where they traditionally struggle. They have been better on the road than at home.

Those are my 2 reasons why I think the Pats have a decent shot next week.
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I'll add two more... Brady and Belichick.However...

As good as the Patriots run defense is (5th in the league), the Chargers rushing offense was better (2nd).

As good as the Patriots may have been on the road this year (7-1), the Chargers were even better than that at home (8-0).

Really, the Chargers have been pretty damn good everywhere this year. Their only two losses came on last minute plays by a total of six points. The Chargers were >this< close to going undefeated this year.
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Havent heard this talked about much. You are right. They could have and should have won both of those games. They actually dominated most of the Baltimore game. Big plays by Steve McNair in the last 2 minutes beat them. I didnt see the KC game so I cant comment on that but it was a 3 point loss.PS. Although they did win the Seattle game which they shouldnt have.

 
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Air Coryell said:
sainttillidie said:
sainttillidie said:
Air Coryell said:
sainttillidie said:
Just My Opinion for what its worth!
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With logic like that I believe its clear that its not worth all that much.
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Well, this is your opinion too, and it is not worth much either, Geaux Saints , We beleive. YEaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Who Dat, Where you at? Attack me and i will attack you, thats the way i was raised. :yes:
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While its tough to debate such outstanding points such as "they're due to lose" and the patriots are doing what they do best, I'll give it shot.The Chargers being due to lose makes no sense. So you're saying if the Chargers had lost a game recently they would be more likely to win this game. That's just dumb. Were the 2003 patriots "due to lose" when they won 12 straight going into the playoffs. According to your logic they were, and they ended up winning the superbowl.As far as the Patriots doing what they do best(winning in January)Didn't the Patriots lose last year after they won the wildcard and then had to travel to Denver to play. If you're point is that they are unbeatable in January you are wrong. Then you back you're initial point up with such gems as thats why they play the games, and anyone can be beat. From the entire FBG community I want to thank you for clarifying that the playoff results haven't already been determined. If you want to backup your statement with some type of explanation of why the Patriots match up well with the Chargers I can respect that(as others have already done in this thread). You're post was just nonsense, you might as well said you flipped a coin to guess the outcome of the game and then decided to post here.
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Air, you do have a point in what you write and you sound like a intelligent guy/gal. But if you look at New England when they won 12 straight and won the SB, that was very rare. WIth that feat, including todays NFL, a 10 game win streak is almost unheard of with the exeption of a few, so thats what i based my post on.(Due to Lose) I just took offence to the remark that my opinion was not worth much, but you have the nerve to post your OPINION. You know what they say about opinions. This was posted with all due respect. And I also stated in the beginning of the topic that this was just an observation and my prediction.
 
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sainttillidie said:
if you look at New England when they won 12 straight and won the SB, that was very rare. WIth that feat, including todays NFL, a 10 game win streak is almost unheard of with the exeption of a few, so thats what i based my post on.(Due to Lose)
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Talk to smart gamblers and they will tell you to NEVER bet against a team on a winning streak. Why? Because there's usually a very good reason they are winning.
 
Steelers were due to lose last year according to his reasoning.

Same reasoning that he should bet his life savings on the Raiders opening day. They are due for a win. :mellow:

 
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Despyzer said:
sainttillidie said:
if you look at New England when they won 12 straight and won the SB, that was very rare. WIth that feat, including todays NFL, a 10 game win streak is almost unheard of with the exeption of a few, so thats what i based my post on.(Due to Lose)
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Talk to smart gamblers and they will tell you to NEVER bet against a team on a winning streak. Why? Because there's usually a very good reason they are winning.
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This reply is totally irrelevant to my reply to Air. Sorry, Im not a gambler
 
Nobody is "due to lose". If the Chargers lose it will be because the Patriots are better. The Patriots will TRY to make Rivers beat them. I say TRY because they could gameplan to take away LT and he could still have a great game. He is that good.

 
Despyzer said:
sainttillidie said:
Sorry, Im not a gambler
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I think we are starting to figure out what you are though.
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What? im something other than a NFL fan, because of a thread that i posted? For your information, ill post whatever i want to because i am real, and not a copycat poster. So say whatever you want, but i can guarantee you, you dont know my character. And only followers try to speak for everyone else. (I think we are starting to figure out what you are though)ALoha
 
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sainttillidie said:
Air Coryell said:
sainttillidie said:
sainttillidie said:
Air Coryell said:
sainttillidie said:
Just My Opinion for what its worth!
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With logic like that I believe its clear that its not worth all that much.
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Well, this is your opinion too, and it is not worth much either, Geaux Saints , We beleive. YEaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Who Dat, Where you at? Attack me and i will attack you, thats the way i was raised. :wall:
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While its tough to debate such outstanding points such as "they're due to lose" and the patriots are doing what they do best, I'll give it shot.The Chargers being due to lose makes no sense. So you're saying if the Chargers had lost a game recently they would be more likely to win this game. That's just dumb. Were the 2003 patriots "due to lose" when they won 12 straight going into the playoffs. According to your logic they were, and they ended up winning the superbowl.As far as the Patriots doing what they do best(winning in January)Didn't the Patriots lose last year after they won the wildcard and then had to travel to Denver to play. If you're point is that they are unbeatable in January you are wrong. Then you back you're initial point up with such gems as thats why they play the games, and anyone can be beat. From the entire FBG community I want to thank you for clarifying that the playoff results haven't already been determined. If you want to backup your statement with some type of explanation of why the Patriots match up well with the Chargers I can respect that(as others have already done in this thread). You're post was just nonsense, you might as well said you flipped a coin to guess the outcome of the game and then decided to post here.
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Air, you do have a point in what you write and you sound like a intelligent guy/gal. But if you look at New England when they won 12 straight and won the SB, that was very rare. WIth that feat, including todays NFL, a 10 game win streak is almost unheard of with the exeption of a few, so thats what i based my post on.(Due to Lose) I just took offence to the remark that my opinion was not worth much, but you have the nerve to post your OPINION. You know what they say about opinions. This was posted with all due respect. And I also stated in the beginning of the topic that this was just an observation and my prediction.
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And my point was that I (and I'm sure rest the of the world) can respect an opinion more when its grounded with some type of rational thought. Maybe some stats or some type of rational to predict the outcome. The fact that in recent years both the Pats and Steelers went on big winning streaks to win the superbowl would suggest that the "due to lose" theory might not be the best to use to suppot your prediction. Also, what you're saying is that in a matchup between a 10-0 vs. a 0-10 team, you're taking the 0-10 team since both teams can't keep going in their current trend.
 
Air Coryell said:
sainttillidie said:
Air Coryell said:
sainttillidie said:
sainttillidie said:
Air Coryell said:
sainttillidie said:
Just My Opinion for what its worth!
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With logic like that I believe its clear that its not worth all that much.
Click to expand...
Well, this is your opinion too, and it is not worth much either, Geaux Saints , We beleive. YEaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Who Dat, Where you at? Attack me and i will attack you, thats the way i was raised. :wall:
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While its tough to debate such outstanding points such as "they're due to lose" and the patriots are doing what they do best, I'll give it shot.The Chargers being due to lose makes no sense. So you're saying if the Chargers had lost a game recently they would be more likely to win this game. That's just dumb. Were the 2003 patriots "due to lose" when they won 12 straight going into the playoffs. According to your logic they were, and they ended up winning the superbowl.As far as the Patriots doing what they do best(winning in January)Didn't the Patriots lose last year after they won the wildcard and then had to travel to Denver to play. If you're point is that they are unbeatable in January you are wrong. Then you back you're initial point up with such gems as thats why they play the games, and anyone can be beat. From the entire FBG community I want to thank you for clarifying that the playoff results haven't already been determined. If you want to backup your statement with some type of explanation of why the Patriots match up well with the Chargers I can respect that(as others have already done in this thread). You're post was just nonsense, you might as well said you flipped a coin to guess the outcome of the game and then decided to post here.
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Air, you do have a point in what you write and you sound like a intelligent guy/gal. But if you look at New England when they won 12 straight and won the SB, that was very rare. WIth that feat, including todays NFL, a 10 game win streak is almost unheard of with the exeption of a few, so thats what i based my post on.(Due to Lose) I just took offence to the remark that my opinion was not worth much, but you have the nerve to post your OPINION. You know what they say about opinions. This was posted with all due respect. And I also stated in the beginning of the topic that this was just an observation and my prediction.
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And my point was that I (and I'm sure rest the of the world) can respect an opinion more when its grounded with some type of rational thought. Maybe some stats or some type of rational to predict the outcome. The fact that in recent years both the Pats and Steelers went on big winning streaks to win the superbowl would suggest that the "due to lose" theory might not be the best to use to suppot your prediction. Also, what you're saying is that in a matchup between a 10-0 vs. a 0-10 team, you're taking the 0-10 team since both teams can't keep going in their current trend.
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ok, ill concede. we can go on with this forever, and i like debate, but ill leave it at that.
 
BGP said:
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL+S...tm?mode=defense

The Chargers are 29th in the NFL in red zone defense.

You can add the players you listed, and I doubt they rise to playoff caliber here.

I guess it could be worse - the Chargers were dead-last in the NFL in red zone defense for a while.

The Patriots are #2.
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Damn, they should be stripped of the AFC West championship immediately and return the tee shirts and hats to their rightful owners.
 
I was hoping KC would win and play SD first. I think the Pats had a better chance of the Ravens coming off a bye week vs the Chargers. It is still going to be a great game. Many are right here though...the Pats are going to try there best to get LT out of the game and make Rivers beat them.

Either way, it is going to be a great game to watch!

 
jurb26 said:
Despyzer said:
The Chargers were >this< close to going undefeated this year.
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The Charger were also >this< close to loosing 2 other games vs Buf and Sea. Seems like a moot point.
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And the Patriots came >this< close to losing against Buf, Chi, and Jax. So the Chargers worst record would be 12-4 and the Patriots worst record would be 9-7. You make a good point. Thanks.
 
Despyzer said:
jurb26 said:
Despyzer said:
The Chargers were >this< close to going undefeated this year.
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The Charger were also >this< close to loosing 2 other games vs Buf and Sea. Seems like a moot point.
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And the Patriots came >this< close to losing against Buf, Chi, and Jax. So the Chargers worst record would be 12-4 and the Patriots worst record would be 9-7. You make a good point. Thanks.
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It's a point that you completly missed, but thanks anyway.
 
I was looking forward to this thread this week - get in some debates about this game, which should be a great match up...and then it happens and people are arguing about who is "more due" to lose and how each teams was ">this close<" to winning/losing 3-6 other games that have nothing to do with this game.

I mean, what a downer.

Hopefully tommygunz can get some legit homerism going in this thread.

BTW: Pats win 28-17

 
The AFC is just brutal. Look at the four teams left, probably the best four teams in the league. Anyone can win.

Brady & the pats are no joke. Let's play tomorrow!! :thumbdown:

 
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