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*** San Francisco 49ers *** Aiyuk requests trade. Rookies report to camp today July 16th (3 Viewers)

Trying to project Niners offensive players.

Last year they were top 5 in passing yards and passing TDs, but dead last in pass attempts. They were one of only three teams to run the ball more than pass it on the year. That screams regression to me.

The question is do their pass attempts increase to take advantage of the good thing going in the passing game? Or do the stats come down to earth a bit to be more in line with attempts? Or do things stay the same and the Niners are just some weird anomaly in the analytics world?
 
Trying to project Niners offensive players.

Last year they were top 5 in passing yards and passing TDs, but dead last in pass attempts. They were one of only three teams to run the ball more than pass it on the year. That screams regression to me.

The question is do their pass attempts increase to take advantage of the good thing going in the passing game? Or do the stats come down to earth a bit to be more in line with attempts? Or do things stay the same and the Niners are just some weird anomaly in the analytics world?
Well, IMO, the 49ers throw the ball more this year. They averaged just under 29 attempts this year, but with Purdy having a full training camp this year in addition to his progression in the offense, I can see a bigger trust factor and attempts go up 5 per game or so. Nice increase but nothing crazy in comparison to the rest of the league. Will take some wear and tear off McCaffrey as well. They drafted Pearsall for a reason and not just to replace Aiyuk or Deebo next year. Efficiency will probably drop a bit so they probably end up in that same range of 4200 passing yards with the additional attempts.
 
Trying to project Niners offensive players.

Last year they were top 5 in passing yards and passing TDs, but dead last in pass attempts. They were one of only three teams to run the ball more than pass it on the year. That screams regression to me.

The question is do their pass attempts increase to take advantage of the good thing going in the passing game? Or do the stats come down to earth a bit to be more in line with attempts? Or do things stay the same and the Niners are just some weird anomaly in the analytics world?
Well, IMO, the 49ers throw the ball more this year. They averaged just under 29 attempts this year, but with Purdy having a full training camp this year in addition to his progression in the offense, I can see a bigger trust factor and attempts go up 5 per game or so. Nice increase but nothing crazy in comparison to the rest of the league. Will take some wear and tear off McCaffrey as well. They drafted Pearsall for a reason and not just to replace Aiyuk or Deebo next year. Efficiency will probably drop a bit so they probably end up in that same range of 4200 passing yards with the additional attempts.

I think I agree. Does anyone know if they changed their offensive game plan at all last year in regards to the passing game, or are these stats just representative of Purdy?

9.6 yards per pass attempt combined with an almost 70% completion rate is fricking insane and way higher than previous Shannahan offenses. My worry is this is something the league starts to figure out. In any case, I think projecting some level of regression here is warranted.
 
Doing some further analysis, Purdy was way less than 9.6 YPA over the last 5 games of the season and in the playoffs. Definitely seeing some regression here as the league catches up, but he's still really good.
 
Doing some further analysis, Purdy was way less than 9.6 YPA over the last 5 games of the season and in the playoffs. Definitely seeing some regression here as the league catches up, but he's still really good.
We keep hearing about the league catching up to him. Was supposed to happen last year but other than the Ravens game, nobody really caught up to him. Even if the YPA dropped, they were still scoring a ton of points. Adding Pearsall is going to be a bigger addition to the overall offense this year than people think IMO. He's a piece they were really missing. Jennings is good, but plays more like a TE where Pearsall will make plays down the field. They needed another WR who can separate.
 
Doing some further analysis, Purdy was way less than 9.6 YPA over the last 5 games of the season and in the playoffs. Definitely seeing some regression here as the league catches up, but he's still really good.
We keep hearing about the league catching up to him. Was supposed to happen last year but other than the Ravens game, nobody really caught up to him. Even if the YPA dropped, they were still scoring a ton of points. Adding Pearsall is going to be a bigger addition to the overall offense this year than people think IMO. He's a piece they were really missing. Jennings is good, but plays more like a TE where Pearsall will make plays down the field. They needed another WR who can separate.
More importantly they needed another WR who could run crisp routes.

IMO the biggest beneficiaries of the Pearsall pick are Deebo & CMC. Defenses weren’t respecting/fooled by the pre-snap motion stuff when it was just Jennings/Aiyuk.

In theory this offense will be much harder to defend.
 
Doing some further analysis, Purdy was way less than 9.6 YPA over the last 5 games of the season and in the playoffs. Definitely seeing some regression here as the league catches up, but he's still really good.
We keep hearing about the league catching up to him. Was supposed to happen last year but other than the Ravens game, nobody really caught up to him. Even if the YPA dropped, they were still scoring a ton of points. Adding Pearsall is going to be a bigger addition to the overall offense this year than people think IMO. He's a piece they were really missing. Jennings is good, but plays more like a TE where Pearsall will make plays down the field. They needed another WR who can separate.

The league will catch up to some degree. It's not a knock on Purdy, but they will eventually see what the Niners are doing and adjust. It looked like they started to at the end of last year (not just the Ravens and Chiefs). But as you say, they were still damn good.

Unless you think 9.6 YPA is sustainable throughout his career, then lets get him and Shanahan in the HoF now.
 
OK, initial projection for Purdy

326/480 4,080 yards
28/11 TD/INT
30/120/1 Rushing

This incorporates a bit of regression. Puts him at my QB14 which seems low, but this is why you project by team offense.
 
Doing some further analysis, Purdy was way less than 9.6 YPA over the last 5 games of the season and in the playoffs. Definitely seeing some regression here as the league catches up, but he's still really good.
We keep hearing about the league catching up to him. Was supposed to happen last year but other than the Ravens game, nobody really caught up to him. Even if the YPA dropped, they were still scoring a ton of points. Adding Pearsall is going to be a bigger addition to the overall offense this year than people think IMO. He's a piece they were really missing. Jennings is good, but plays more like a TE where Pearsall will make plays down the field. They needed another WR who can separate.

The league will catch up to some degree. It's not a knock on Purdy, but they will eventually see what the Niners are doing and adjust. It looked like they started to at the end of last year (not just the Ravens and Chiefs). But as you say, they were still damn good.

Unless you think 9.6 YPA is sustainable throughout his career, then lets get him and Shanahan in the HoF now.
The $50 million/year question (for the 49ers at least) is whether the league "catches up" to him and he regresses, or if he continues to develop in his third year with a full, healthy offseason. In the latter scenario I think one could expect better fantasy numbers based on higher volume even if he's less efficient. I wouldn't be terribly shocked with either outcome.
 
Larry Krueger:

Some quick thoughts on #49ers OTAs:

-Purdy looks primed for his career year. Stronger, smarter, and more sudden.
-Josh Dobbs is rangy and athletic, but I think Brandon Allen and Tanner Mordecai are better QBs and have a chance To beat him out in the preseason.
-Cody Schrader looks better every time I see him
-Isaac Guerendo has more WR and FB traits than he has RB traits
-JP Mason looks primed for a breakout campaign
-Ricky Pearsall will become a 3rd down monster.
-Jacob Cowing will emerge as a very significant player and will become a favorite of Purdy.
-Mason Pline reminds me of a taller Brent Jones. Smart, competitive, good hands. Very Underrated athlete.
-Dominik Puni and Spencer Burford should battle in July/August for #1 RG spot
-Prediction: Feliciano, Nugent or Kingston will beat out Jake Brendel for starting Center job
-Leonard Floyd/Nick Bosa will be a super productive DE combo. Both will finish w/10+ sacks.
-DT-Jordan Elliott was an underrated addition. Very strong with quick feet.
-Evan Anderson (#60) looks explosive and strong and will make the final 53 at DT
-Jaylen Graham is an absolute star in the making at ILB.
-Malik Mustapha and Renardo Green will both play significant roles as rookies in SF’s secondary, both have ALPHA type personalities.
-Darrell Luter Jr. will start outside opposite Mooney Ward at CB and will make dramatic strides in his 2nd year. Luther’s high level talent and athleticism really stand out on practice field.

 
49ers gain $17 million in cap space

The San Francisco 49ers owned about $8.24 million in salary cap space yesterday, per OverTheCap.com. Today, that number jumped to an initial estimate of $25.25 million. This substantial increase is due to the team gaining roughly $17 million in salary-cap savings by designating Arik Armstead as a June 1 cut.

Armstead's departure results in about $10.3 million in dead money for 2024 and approximately $15.5 million in 2025, per OverTheCap.com. However, his release provided the 49ers with much-needed salary cap flexibility.

The 49ers could gain even more cap space by signing wide receiver Brandon Aiyuk to a contract extension. Currently set to earn $14.124 million this season on a team-exercised fifth-year option, restructuring his contract could move some of that money into future years. Paying a significant portion of a new deal upfront through a signing bonus, which can be spread throughout the length of the contract, and even further using void years, if necessary.


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49ers gain $17 million in cap space

The San Francisco 49ers owned about $8.24 million in salary cap space yesterday, per OverTheCap.com. Today, that number jumped to an initial estimate of $25.25 million. This substantial increase is due to the team gaining roughly $17 million in salary-cap savings by designating Arik Armstead as a June 1 cut.

Armstead's departure results in about $10.3 million in dead money for 2024 and approximately $15.5 million in 2025, per OverTheCap.com. However, his release provided the 49ers with much-needed salary cap flexibility.

The 49ers could gain even more cap space by signing wide receiver Brandon Aiyuk to a contract extension. Currently set to earn $14.124 million this season on a team-exercised fifth-year option, restructuring his contract could move some of that money into future years. Paying a significant portion of a new deal upfront through a signing bonus, which can be spread throughout the length of the contract, and even further using void years, if necessary.


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Further proof the NFL salary cap is a joke, but level playing field so no complaints.
 
Larry Krueger:

Some quick thoughts on #49ers OTAs:

-Purdy looks primed for his career year. Stronger, smarter, and more sudden.
-Josh Dobbs is rangy and athletic, but I think Brandon Allen and Tanner Mordecai are better QBs and have a chance To beat him out in the preseason.
-Cody Schrader looks better every time I see him
-Isaac Guerendo has more WR and FB traits than he has RB traits
-JP Mason looks primed for a breakout campaign
-Ricky Pearsall will become a 3rd down monster.
-Jacob Cowing will emerge as a very significant player and will become a favorite of Purdy.
-Mason Pline reminds me of a taller Brent Jones. Smart, competitive, good hands. Very Underrated athlete.
-Dominik Puni and Spencer Burford should battle in July/August for #1 RG spot
-Prediction: Feliciano, Nugent or Kingston will beat out Jake Brendel for starting Center job
-Leonard Floyd/Nick Bosa will be a super productive DE combo. Both will finish w/10+ sacks.
-DT-Jordan Elliott was an underrated addition. Very strong with quick feet.
-Evan Anderson (#60) looks explosive and strong and will make the final 53 at DT
-Jaylen Graham is an absolute star in the making at ILB.
-Malik Mustapha and Renardo Green will both play significant roles as rookies in SF’s secondary, both have ALPHA type personalities.
-Darrell Luter Jr. will start outside opposite Mooney Ward at CB and will make dramatic strides in his 2nd year. Luther’s high level talent and athleticism really stand out on practice field.

No offense but this reads like a bit of a lake wobegon report.
 
Larry Krueger:

Some quick thoughts on #49ers OTAs:

-Purdy looks primed for his career year. Stronger, smarter, and more sudden.
-Josh Dobbs is rangy and athletic, but I think Brandon Allen and Tanner Mordecai are better QBs and have a chance To beat him out in the preseason.
-Cody Schrader looks better every time I see him
-Isaac Guerendo has more WR and FB traits than he has RB traits
-JP Mason looks primed for a breakout campaign
-Ricky Pearsall will become a 3rd down monster.
-Jacob Cowing will emerge as a very significant player and will become a favorite of Purdy.
-Mason Pline reminds me of a taller Brent Jones. Smart, competitive, good hands. Very Underrated athlete.
-Dominik Puni and Spencer Burford should battle in July/August for #1 RG spot
-Prediction: Feliciano, Nugent or Kingston will beat out Jake Brendel for starting Center job
-Leonard Floyd/Nick Bosa will be a super productive DE combo. Both will finish w/10+ sacks.
-DT-Jordan Elliott was an underrated addition. Very strong with quick feet.
-Evan Anderson (#60) looks explosive and strong and will make the final 53 at DT
-Jaylen Graham is an absolute star in the making at ILB.
-Malik Mustapha and Renardo Green will both play significant roles as rookies in SF’s secondary, both have ALPHA type personalities.
-Darrell Luter Jr. will start outside opposite Mooney Ward at CB and will make dramatic strides in his 2nd year. Luther’s high level talent and athleticism really stand out on practice field.

No offense but this reads like a bit of a lake wobegon report.
Here's another reporters breakdown of Krueger's takes:

 
Larry Krueger:

Some quick thoughts on #49ers OTAs:

-Purdy looks primed for his career year. Stronger, smarter, and more sudden.
-Josh Dobbs is rangy and athletic, but I think Brandon Allen and Tanner Mordecai are better QBs and have a chance To beat him out in the preseason.
-Cody Schrader looks better every time I see him
-Isaac Guerendo has more WR and FB traits than he has RB traits
-JP Mason looks primed for a breakout campaign
-Ricky Pearsall will become a 3rd down monster.
-Jacob Cowing will emerge as a very significant player and will become a favorite of Purdy.
-Mason Pline reminds me of a taller Brent Jones. Smart, competitive, good hands. Very Underrated athlete.
-Dominik Puni and Spencer Burford should battle in July/August for #1 RG spot
-Prediction: Feliciano, Nugent or Kingston will beat out Jake Brendel for starting Center job
-Leonard Floyd/Nick Bosa will be a super productive DE combo. Both will finish w/10+ sacks.
-DT-Jordan Elliott was an underrated addition. Very strong with quick feet.
-Evan Anderson (#60) looks explosive and strong and will make the final 53 at DT
-Jaylen Graham is an absolute star in the making at ILB.
-Malik Mustapha and Renardo Green will both play significant roles as rookies in SF’s secondary, both have ALPHA type personalities.
-Darrell Luter Jr. will start outside opposite Mooney Ward at CB and will make dramatic strides in his 2nd year. Luther’s high level talent and athleticism really stand out on practice field.

No offense but this reads like a bit of a lake wobegon report.
After reading that I thought they should just give the 9ers the SB rings for 2024 and move on to next year.
 
Larry Krueger:

Some quick thoughts on #49ers OTAs:

-Purdy looks primed for his career year. Stronger, smarter, and more sudden.
-Josh Dobbs is rangy and athletic, but I think Brandon Allen and Tanner Mordecai are better QBs and have a chance To beat him out in the preseason.
-Cody Schrader looks better every time I see him
-Isaac Guerendo has more WR and FB traits than he has RB traits
-JP Mason looks primed for a breakout campaign
-Ricky Pearsall will become a 3rd down monster.
-Jacob Cowing will emerge as a very significant player and will become a favorite of Purdy.
-Mason Pline reminds me of a taller Brent Jones. Smart, competitive, good hands. Very Underrated athlete.
-Dominik Puni and Spencer Burford should battle in July/August for #1 RG spot
-Prediction: Feliciano, Nugent or Kingston will beat out Jake Brendel for starting Center job
-Leonard Floyd/Nick Bosa will be a super productive DE combo. Both will finish w/10+ sacks.
-DT-Jordan Elliott was an underrated addition. Very strong with quick feet.
-Evan Anderson (#60) looks explosive and strong and will make the final 53 at DT
-Jaylen Graham is an absolute star in the making at ILB.
-Malik Mustapha and Renardo Green will both play significant roles as rookies in SF’s secondary, both have ALPHA type personalities.
-Darrell Luter Jr. will start outside opposite Mooney Ward at CB and will make dramatic strides in his 2nd year. Luther’s high level talent and athleticism really stand out on practice field.

No offense but this reads like a bit of a lake wobegon report.
After reading that I thought they should just give the 9ers the SB rings for 2024 and move on to next year.
We must be the only franchise that has reporters who hype up the team in OTAs.
 
Larry Krueger:

Some quick thoughts on #49ers OTAs:

-Purdy looks primed for his career year. Stronger, smarter, and more sudden.
-Josh Dobbs is rangy and athletic, but I think Brandon Allen and Tanner Mordecai are better QBs and have a chance To beat him out in the preseason.
-Cody Schrader looks better every time I see him
-Isaac Guerendo has more WR and FB traits than he has RB traits
-JP Mason looks primed for a breakout campaign
-Ricky Pearsall will become a 3rd down monster.
-Jacob Cowing will emerge as a very significant player and will become a favorite of Purdy.
-Mason Pline reminds me of a taller Brent Jones. Smart, competitive, good hands. Very Underrated athlete.
-Dominik Puni and Spencer Burford should battle in July/August for #1 RG spot
-Prediction: Feliciano, Nugent or Kingston will beat out Jake Brendel for starting Center job
-Leonard Floyd/Nick Bosa will be a super productive DE combo. Both will finish w/10+ sacks.
-DT-Jordan Elliott was an underrated addition. Very strong with quick feet.
-Evan Anderson (#60) looks explosive and strong and will make the final 53 at DT
-Jaylen Graham is an absolute star in the making at ILB.
-Malik Mustapha and Renardo Green will both play significant roles as rookies in SF’s secondary, both have ALPHA type personalities.
-Darrell Luter Jr. will start outside opposite Mooney Ward at CB and will make dramatic strides in his 2nd year. Luther’s high level talent and athleticism really stand out on practice field.

No offense but this reads like a bit of a lake wobegon report.
After reading that I thought they should just give the 9ers the SB rings for 2024 and move on to next year.
Other than maybe the Graham comment I’m not really seeing what is so controversially homer-ific. Saying so and so will have a big role on the team implies as much negative about the other roster players as it does positive about the guy being remarked upon.
 
Larry Krueger:

Some quick thoughts on #49ers OTAs:

-Purdy looks primed for his career year. Stronger, smarter, and more sudden.
-Josh Dobbs is rangy and athletic, but I think Brandon Allen and Tanner Mordecai are better QBs and have a chance To beat him out in the preseason.
-Cody Schrader looks better every time I see him
-Isaac Guerendo has more WR and FB traits than he has RB traits
-JP Mason looks primed for a breakout campaign
-Ricky Pearsall will become a 3rd down monster.
-Jacob Cowing will emerge as a very significant player and will become a favorite of Purdy.
-Mason Pline reminds me of a taller Brent Jones. Smart, competitive, good hands. Very Underrated athlete.
-Dominik Puni and Spencer Burford should battle in July/August for #1 RG spot
-Prediction: Feliciano, Nugent or Kingston will beat out Jake Brendel for starting Center job
-Leonard Floyd/Nick Bosa will be a super productive DE combo. Both will finish w/10+ sacks.
-DT-Jordan Elliott was an underrated addition. Very strong with quick feet.
-Evan Anderson (#60) looks explosive and strong and will make the final 53 at DT
-Jaylen Graham is an absolute star in the making at ILB.
-Malik Mustapha and Renardo Green will both play significant roles as rookies in SF’s secondary, both have ALPHA type personalities.
-Darrell Luter Jr. will start outside opposite Mooney Ward at CB and will make dramatic strides in his 2nd year. Luther’s high level talent and athleticism really stand out on practice field.

No offense but this reads like a bit of a lake wobegon report.
After reading that I thought they should just give the 9ers the SB rings for 2024 and move on to next year.
Other than maybe the Graham comment I’m not really seeing what is so controversially homer-ific. Saying so and so will have a big role on the team implies as much negative about the other roster players as it does positive about the guy being remarked upon.
-Purdy looks primed for his career year. Stronger, smarter, and more sudden.
-Josh Dobbs is rangy and athletic, but I think Brandon Allen and Tanner Mordecai are better QBs and have a chance To beat him out in the preseason.
-Cody Schrader looks better every time I see him
-Isaac Guerendo has more WR and FB traits than he has RB traits
-JP Mason looks primed for a breakout campaign
-Ricky Pearsall will become a 3rd down monster.
-Jacob Cowing will emerge as a very significant player and will become a favorite of Purdy.
-Mason Pline reminds me of a taller Brent Jones. Smart, competitive, good hands. Very Underrated athlete.

-Dominik Puni and Spencer Burford should battle in July/August for #1 RG spot
-Prediction: Feliciano, Nugent or Kingston will beat out Jake Brendel for starting Center job
-Leonard Floyd/Nick Bosa will be a super productive DE combo. Both will finish w/10+ sacks.
-DT-Jordan Elliott was an underrated addition. Very strong with quick feet.
-Evan Anderson (#60) looks explosive and strong and will make the final 53 at DT
-Jaylen Graham is an absolute star in the making at ILB.
-Malik Mustapha and Renardo Green will both play significant roles as rookies in SF’s secondary, both have ALPHA type personalities.
-Darrell Luter Jr. will start outside opposite Mooney Ward at CB and will make dramatic strides in his 2nd year. Luther’s high level talent and athleticism really stand out on practice field.

Actually Purdy better be primed for a HOF kind of year rather than just a career year given he'll be supporting

CMAC
Deebo
Aiyuk
Jennings
Kittle
Pearsall monstering
Cowing's joining the first four as a favorite
Pline doing Brent Jones things
 
“Third down monster” and a “significant player” doesn’t mean those guys are making the pro bowl, it just means they will have roles in the offense. Hope that helps.
 
“Third down monster” and a “significant player” doesn’t mean those guys are making the pro bowl, it just means they will have roles in the offense. Hope that helps.
Maybe for this writer a 3rd down monster is the guy cleaning up in blowouts and Putdy's favorite is the guy who buffs his footballs in practice.

When you're trotting out CMac, Aiyuk, Deebo, Kittle, and Jennings there's not going to be a whole lot of meat left on the bone. These other guys aren't going to be monsters or favorites unless there are several significant injuries or they have horrible seasons.
 
“Third down monster” and a “significant player” doesn’t mean those guys are making the pro bowl, it just means they will have roles in the offense. Hope that helps.
Maybe for this writer a 3rd down monster is the guy cleaning up in blowouts and Putdy's favorite is the guy who buffs his footballs in practice.

When you're trotting out CMac, Aiyuk, Deebo, Kittle, and Jennings there's not going to be a whole lot of meat left on the bone. These other guys aren't going to be monsters or favorites unless there are several significant injuries or they have horrible seasons.
Jennings has a reputation as a big third down guy locally (“third and Jauan”) and he had 19 catches last year. It’s not crazy to think Pearsall, for example, could come in and be more impactful in 3-4 WR sets (which SF hasn’t used historically but may this year) and have a significant real life impact but with numbers that wouldn’t cause a fantasy team owner to ever take notice.
 
“Third down monster” and a “significant player” doesn’t mean those guys are making the pro bowl, it just means they will have roles in the offense. Hope that helps.
Maybe for this writer a 3rd down monster is the guy cleaning up in blowouts and Putdy's favorite is the guy who buffs his footballs in practice.

When you're trotting out CMac, Aiyuk, Deebo, Kittle, and Jennings there's not going to be a whole lot of meat left on the bone. These other guys aren't going to be monsters or favorites unless there are several significant injuries or they have horrible seasons.
Jennings has a reputation as a big third down guy locally (“third and Jauan”) and he had 19 catches last year. It’s not crazy to think Pearsall, for example, could come in and be more impactful in 3-4 WR sets (which SF hasn’t used historically but may this year) and have a significant real life impact but with numbers that wouldn’t cause a fantasy team owner to ever take notice.
Yeah. Why anyone would take the time to call that article out is pretty funny. Tame stuff by most offseason talk standards.
 
“Third down monster” and a “significant player” doesn’t mean those guys are making the pro bowl, it just means they will have roles in the offense. Hope that helps.
Maybe for this writer a 3rd down monster is the guy cleaning up in blowouts and Putdy's favorite is the guy who buffs his footballs in practice.

When you're trotting out CMac, Aiyuk, Deebo, Kittle, and Jennings there's not going to be a whole lot of meat left on the bone. These other guys aren't going to be monsters or favorites unless there are several significant injuries or they have horrible seasons.
Jennings has a reputation as a big third down guy locally (“third and Jauan”) and he had 19 catches last year. It’s not crazy to think Pearsall, for example, could come in and be more impactful in 3-4 WR sets (which SF hasn’t used historically but may this year) and have a significant real life impact but with numbers that wouldn’t cause a fantasy team owner to ever take notice.
Yeah. Why anyone would take the time to call that article out is pretty funny. Tame stuff by most offseason talk standards.
Many of us are looking for an edge, especially if we are drafting now. We dissect these articles for helpful nuggets. Beyond that dissection, we must assign a credibility level to the article. When an article has both positive and negative statements/opinions it gives it more credibility.
 
The writing is on the wall for Cam Latu as 49ers sign a new TE2

The 49ers are working to finalize a deal with veteran TE Logan Thomas, source says. After a 55-catch season with the Commanders in 2023, Thomas returns to the NFC West, where he began his career as a QB for the AZCardinals.
 
The writing is on the wall for Cam Latu as 49ers sign a new TE2

The 49ers are working to finalize a deal with veteran TE Logan Thomas, source says. After a 55-catch season with the Commanders in 2023, Thomas returns to the NFC West, where he began his career as a QB for the AZCardinals.

Absolutely hated this pick when they made it. Ringo and Blake Freeland were still on the board. Maybe they don't pan out, but would have been much better picks IMO.
 
The writing is on the wall for Cam Latu as 49ers sign a new TE2

The 49ers are working to finalize a deal with veteran TE Logan Thomas, source says. After a 55-catch season with the Commanders in 2023, Thomas returns to the NFC West, where he began his career as a QB for the AZCardinals.
Shocked that they'd waste the money with Mason Pline already rostered.
 
The writing is on the wall for Cam Latu as 49ers sign a new TE2

The 49ers are working to finalize a deal with veteran TE Logan Thomas, source says. After a 55-catch season with the Commanders in 2023, Thomas returns to the NFC West, where he began his career as a QB for the AZCardinals.
Shocked that they'd waste the money with Mason Pline already rostered.
Stocker alert!
 
The writing is on the wall for Cam Latu as 49ers sign a new TE2

The 49ers are working to finalize a deal with veteran TE Logan Thomas, source says. After a 55-catch season with the Commanders in 2023, Thomas returns to the NFC West, where he began his career as a QB for the AZCardinals.

Absolutely hated this pick when they made it. Ringo and Blake Freeland were still on the board. Maybe they don't pan out, but would have been much better picks IMO.
Latu was a really odd pick. He felt like a UDFA to me. Dawand Jones was probably the guy I liked most there,
 
The writing is on the wall for Cam Latu as 49ers sign a new TE2

The 49ers are working to finalize a deal with veteran TE Logan Thomas, source says. After a 55-catch season with the Commanders in 2023, Thomas returns to the NFC West, where he began his career as a QB for the AZCardinals.
Shocked that they'd waste the money with Mason Pline already rostered.
Kittle, Thomas, Willis and Saubert are all ahead of Pline at the moment.
 
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Reigning Offensive Player of the Year Christian McCaffrey once again has reset the RB market, signing a two-year extension with the 49ers, averaging $19 million per year, per sources.

McCaffrey will receive an additional $8 million over what he was scheduled to make in the first two years while adding $24 million in guarantees.

 
Brandon Aiyuk has not reported for the start of mandatory minicamp and is subject to $100,000+ in fines over the next three days, per @MaioccoNBCS
 
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The 49ers have lowered Christian McCaffrey's 2024 salary-cap hit from $14.1 million to $6.7m with this extension — opening up $7.4m of space this year.

SF now has over $32m in cap space, which again sets them up to carry over a big sum into the following year.

 
10 teams with the most cap space:

1. Patriots, $44M
2. Commanders, $43M
3. Lions, $38M
4. Raiders, $34.1M
5. Cardinals, $34M
6. Jaguars, $33M
7. 49ers, $32M
8. Packers, $28M
9. Vikings, $27M
10. Eagles, $26M

 
What if SF doesn't sign Aiyik? Matt Maiocco weighs in:

What the 49ers have to decide, and maybe they haven't even determined this yet—how high will they go?" Maiocco told Tom Tolbert and Adam Copeland. "And is there a point where, after drafting Ricky Pearsall, after signing Jauan Jennings to a two-year deal, still having Deebo Samuel for two more years, is there a price where they just say, 'This is too much,' and you let him play the final year of his contract."

Regarding potentially trading Aiyuk at this point, Maiocco believes "that ship has sailed." If it didn't happen before or during the draft, when the 49ers could find some immediate help to mitigate the loss of a player like Aiyuk, it won't happen now.

"I don't know if I'd call it worst case scenario, but it's certainly an option for the 49ers to hold onto Aiyuk, have him play this final year of the contract, and then franchise him," Maiocco said. "And then if you still can't get a contract done, then you trade him before next year's draft, similar to what the Chiefs did with [CB] L'Jarius Sneed. You put that tag on him so you control his rights to a degree, and then you're still able to get something for him."

 
The #49ers reportedly were one of a few teams that inquired about trading for Justin Jefferson before the draft according to Adam Schefter on his podcast:

“Never ever got close.. Some teams reached out. The New York Jets reached out about Justin Jefferson. The Indianapolis Colts reached out about Justin Jefferson, you know that? The 49ers reached out about Justin Jefferson, you know that?”

This was all before the draft, and every team that called the Vikings before the draft was told 'We're not trading him.' The conversations went nowhere with anybody, so it was a moot point.”

 
I'm beginning to think we don't sign Aiyuk, and he can play on his $14 mil salary or not play at all (and he will play...he will have to because it will be a contract year). Then we can/will franchise and trade him next offseason and get a nice return and let another team pay him. He's got Zero leverage right now and I'm hearing things are going south between him and the 49ers.

With what I'm hearing about Pearsall and the chemistry he's developing with Purdy while BA holds out, I dont think there will be much of a drop-off at WR, if at all. And with Purdys payday coming, it seems our WR core will be Pearsall, Deebo (signed thru 2025), Jennings (signed thru 2025) Cowing, and whoever else claws their way onto the 53 man for the foreseeable future.

BA needs to be at camp and play for the bag next year, I don't see it happening this season.

I'd rather they trade Deebo and keep Aiyuk, but right now that doesn't seem likely IMO.
 
The deal will get done. It’s just a question of how long the hold out will be and if it will end up detracting from his performance this year like it did with Bosa last year.
 
The deal will get done. It’s just a question of how long the hold out will be and if it will end up detracting from his performance this year like it did with Bosa last year.
Between reports that things are going south and the 49ers won lt forgive his holdout fines (like they did for Bosa) makes me think he's not gonna get a new deal. We will see.
 
Speaking on 95.7 The Game this week, Aiyuk’s wide receiver coach T.J. Houshmandzadeh thought that there was a chance he could’ve signed a deal a month and a half ago when the wideout was more optimistic, but things have turned the opposite direction since.

“At one point, he thought he may sign,” Houshmandzadeh said. “So it was like, ‘I’m not gonna come out [to workout] because I might have to go when I sign.’ And so that optimistic outlook has turned into a pessimistic outlook now. Like, damn, at one point he thought, ‘Hey, I might be leaving soon.’ So now, it’s like, ‘I have no idea.’”

“If the 49ers want to get B.A. signed, give him the Amon-Ra deal,” Houshmandzadeh shared. “I guarantee he’d be in there tomorrow. They don’t want to do that.”

“If they’d offered him Amon-Ra’s deal, he would be in camp.”

 
Speaking on 95.7 The Game this week, Aiyuk’s wide receiver coach T.J. Houshmandzadeh thought that there was a chance he could’ve signed a deal a month and a half ago when the wideout was more optimistic, but things have turned the opposite direction since.

“At one point, he thought he may sign,” Houshmandzadeh said. “So it was like, ‘I’m not gonna come out [to workout] because I might have to go when I sign.’ And so that optimistic outlook has turned into a pessimistic outlook now. Like, damn, at one point he thought, ‘Hey, I might be leaving soon.’ So now, it’s like, ‘I have no idea.’”

“If the 49ers want to get B.A. signed, give him the Amon-Ra deal,” Houshmandzadeh shared. “I guarantee he’d be in there tomorrow. They don’t want to do that.”

“If they’d offered him Amon-Ra’s deal, he would be in camp.”

Well if the team is refusing to give him that deal then maybe it won’t get done. They should sign him to that deal tomorrow.
 
Saw this a few days ago, I'm sure some of you did as well, Silver's not one of my favorite sources but thought I'd go ahead and post this as he's probably right here.


Very short version of where things stand with 49ers and their receivers:

1) They drafted Pearsall in the first round. He is a big part of the present and the future.

2) If Aiyuk ends up taking their best offer, Deebo will be gone after 2024.

3) If Aiyuk doesn't take their best offer, and (presumably) plays on the fifth-year option, it's Hunger Games between him and Deebo to see who stays beyond 2024.

4) There's still a chance Aiyuk or Deebo could be traded between now and the November deadline, if the offer's good enough and/or if things have devolved with Aiyuk.
 
Link

What would it cost the 49ers to keep Aiyuk without a new deal?

The best scenario for both sides would be agreeing on a mutually beneficial contract extension, allowing the receiver to focus on the upcoming season and the 49ers' pursuit of Super Bowl glory.

Another option would be for Aiyuk to forgo a new deal and play the 2024 season on the fifth-year option, guaranteeing him $14.124 million, significantly less than his market value. Then, the two sides could reassess their situations next offseason.

A less desirable option would be Aiyuk sitting out the 2024 season or requesting a trade. While sitting out the season in its entirety might initially sound like a wrong move for the receiver, it would also be a poor outcome for the 49ers, who believe Aiyuk is a crucial part of their Super Bowl aspirations. Aiyuk likely knows this and could pressure the team by threatening not to play.

Aiyuk would also risk failing to accrue a credited NFL season if he missed too much time, which means he may find himself in the same scenario next season with the fifth-year option rolling over into 2025 because he sat out too long.

Playing out his fifth-year option might not get him much closer to free agency either, if that is what Aiyuk seeks. San Francisco can utilize the franchise tag on the receiver in 2025, which is estimated to cost about $24.76 million, according to OverTheCap.com. Then, the 49ers can use the franchise tag again in 2026 at the cost of a 120% pay raise, which might be about $29.71 million. It would effectively keep the wideout under contract through 2026.

Somewhere along the way in that scenario, the 49ers can decide to pay Aiyuk or trade him before the 2025 or 2026 NFL Draft to a team willing to pay the receiver's asking price.

Last week, Michael Silver of the San Francisco Chronicle reported what the 49ers' last offer to Aiyuk's camp might have been.

"I'm hearing maybe their offer's in the $26 million range, which, you know, it's certainly not Justin Jefferson money, nor should it be, but it's closer to that DeVonta Smith, Amon-Ra St. Brown, that next tier down," Silver said during a radio interview.

While $26 million annually might sit below what Aiyuk feels is his value, assuming the 49ers don't try to trade the receiver over the next couple of years, it is a better option than playing through the fifth-year option and potentially two franchise tags. Aiyuk would average approximately $22.9 million annually over the next three seasons under that scenario, even further below market value.
 
The thing I've learned from the multiple player holdouts with SF is that the longer they go on, the higher the chances Aiyuk remains with the 49ers.

Other teams have their rosters in order, including cap situations. Aiyuk really has no leverage here. The 49ers have expressed that they are willing to give him a new contract. His team's demands have thus far been...unrealistic.

At some point, they're going to get something done. It's unfortunate that it's dragging out - but I am confident that when the season is upon us, Aiyuk will be lining up for the 49ers.

I remain deeply skeptical that they deal him, or that he holds out into the season.
 
Seems SF likes getting contracts done in August. I would like this to be resolved before training camp but it doesn't seem to be their MO.
 
Matt Maiocco less confident 49ers will get a deal done with Aiyuk.

"Matt Maiocco of NBC Sports Bay Area joined Bay Area radio station KNBR this morning to discuss the Aiyuk situation. While the 49ers insider believes Aiyuk is a talented player and acknowledges that the offense is much better with him in the lineup, he doesn't view the receiver as irreplaceable.

Making Aiyuk one of the highest-paid players in the NFL will have a long-term impact on the team's roster-building plans. Next year, quarterback Brock Purdy will become the 49ers' highest-paid player, and there are other significant contributors in the pipeline. Maiocco argues that allowing Aiyuk to take up a significant portion of the team's salary cap will likely force some of these other stars off the roster.

Those are all the things that the 49ers have to take into account," Maiocco said "And if you'd asked me a month ago or six weeks ago or two months ago, I'm sure—I did think this, and I did say this—I thought the 49ers would re-sign Brandon Aiyuk right before training camp. They get him locked up, and away we go.

"Now, with the [WR Jauan] Jennings deal, with [first-round draft pick Ricky] Pearsall, with the exploding wide receiver market, I'm just not nearly as confident in saying that. I don't think it's just a slam dunk that the 49ers and Brandon Aiyuk's representation work out a long-term extension."

 

Report: Not a lot of optimism' surrounding 'stalled' contract talks between 49ers, Brandon Aiyuk.​


ESPN's Jeremy Fowler provided an update on the contract negotiations, and it sounds like nothing has changed. During a Sunday segment on SportsCenter, the NFL insider reported that "things have stalled a bit."

"They're going to see what happens over the next six weeks leading into training camp," Fowler said, per Bleacher Report's Joseph Zucker. "The 49ers want Aiyuk long-term in the fold, but so far, they have not been willing to show that they're going to meet the market of wide receiver, which we're seeing these massive numbers. Amon-Ra St. Brown in Detroit, $30 million, Justin Jefferson well above that."

The wide receiver market has continued to explode, and the 49ers' tendency to take a slower approach to contract negotiations will undoubtedly cost them, assuming they can get a deal done.

"Aiyuk believes he's a top guy, and so, something's got to give," Fowler continued. "And so, he's worked himself into a top-10 receiver conversation. We'll see. Not a lot of momentum right now. Not a lot of optimism."

 
Nifty stat:

The 49ers scored 16 touchdowns from outside the redone in 2023. Only the Dolphins had more with 22.
 

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