San Francisco 49ers @ Carolina Panthers Playoff Thread (1 Viewer)

[BassNBrew]

Nine pages on the other NFC game and no thread on this game...

I guess I understand why as this game will likely be a blowout of enormous proportions. San Fran is coming off a huge victory in Green Bay over one of the top QBs in the league. Carolina struggled to a one point victory over San Fran earlier in the year. That was the high point of the Carolina season and they have been trending down since while the 49ers are now on a roll. Crabtree's presence will be a huge difference maker. Go back and watch the Miami/Carolina game tape. Besides seeing Wallace running free behind the secondary by 10 yards, you'll see him dropping sure TDs. Crabtree won't drop those catches. For those playing fantasy NFL playoffs, Crabtree is a must start...160 yards and two TDs min. I would suggest more, but I have to allot 120 and 1 for VD. With Gore getting 2 TDs and the defense picking up another, I can't see Crabtree eclypsing those numbers after SF pulls their starters early in the 4th.

I'd like to think that the Carolina offense could hang, but their most effective weapon is Mike Tolbert. While it will be fun to watch him blow up some 49ers, he's not ADP. Stewart/Smith hurt and less than 100%. DWilly old. LaFell sucks. I suspect the 49ers will take away the only legit weapon in Olsen. Ginn Jr may make a little noise on the occasions he doesn't drop the ball. Newton will have to carry a big load. Playing from behind I'd expect Cam to throw 3 INTs, but since the SF defenders aren't the size of a barn (and I mean a really tall barn), they won't have the opportunity. Probably 7 sacks for the SF defense, however they will yield more rushing yards to Cam than the RBs.

Final score 55 - 6 in favor of San Francisco.

 

[Doug B]

Had no idea Lou Holtz was a Panthers fan

 

[ScottyDog]

As a 'Hawks fan I can't wait to see San Francisco up in Seattle the following week.

 

[ImTheScientist]

As a 'Hawks fan I can't wait to see San Francisco up in Seattle the following week.

DEAD

 

[drummer]

As a 'Hawks fan I can't wait to see San Francisco up in Seattle the following week.

DEAD

Hawk fan needs so much attention that they can't stay in one thread.

 

[BassNBrew]

On further thought, I like to change the final score to 48 - 6. Gore will only get one TD. I had factored in a short one based on a flag in the endzone. Given that we get one penalty flag against us up picked up each week, that scoring opportunity will be nullfied.

 

[Alkahsu]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

 

[drummer]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

 

[ScottyDog]

San Francisco almost lost to a terrible Falcons team at home, struggled against Arizona, barely beat an 8-7-1 Green Bay team. I think this game is all about who is going to be Seahawk fodder next week.

 

[drummer]

Saints fans gettin' all kinds of disrespect here. Which this thread has nothing to do with.

 

[Alkahsu]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

A projection for the game that the thread is about? I think that's what everyone would expect.

 

[drummer]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

A projection for the game that the thread is about? I think that's what everyone would expect.

Of course that's what you think.

 

[BassNBrew]

Saints fans gettin' all kinds of disrespect here. Which this thread has nothing to do with.

Hawks fans everywhere. I'll be rooting for your team next week against either the Saints or Hawks.

eta: Unless I'm still in the fbg post season contest in which case it's go Saints.

 

[drummer]

Saints fans gettin' all kinds of disrespect here. Which this thread has nothing to do with.

Hawks fans everywhere. I'll be rooting for your team next week against either the Saints or Hawks.

eta: Unless I'm still in the fbg post season contest in which case it's go Saints.

As of this moment, most of the Bay Area media is still dining on the win against the Packers. I'll post something about this game later.

 

[BassNBrew]

Saints fans gettin' all kinds of disrespect here. Which this thread has nothing to do with.

Hawks fans everywhere. I'll be rooting for your team next week against either the Saints or Hawks.

eta: Unless I'm still in the fbg post season contest in which case it's go Saints.

As of this moment, most of the Bay Area media is still dining on the win against the Packers. I'll post something about this game later.

Enjoy. Not sure why you guys aren't getting more respect, after all you were very close last year to the title. I'd take every player on your offense ahead of their Seattle counterpart except for Lynch/Gore. I didn't see enough of either team to gauge the defenses, but it was a push as to who is better defensively based on the games v. the Cats.

 

[drummer]

Saints fans gettin' all kinds of disrespect here. Which this thread has nothing to do with.

Hawks fans everywhere. I'll be rooting for your team next week against either the Saints or Hawks.

eta: Unless I'm still in the fbg post season contest in which case it's go Saints.

As of this moment, most of the Bay Area media is still dining on the win against the Packers. I'll post something about this game later.

Enjoy. Not sure why you guys aren't getting more respect, after all you were very close last year to the title. I'd take every player on your offense ahead of their Seattle counterpart except for Lynch/Gore. I didn't see enough of either team to gauge the defenses, but it was a push as to who is better defensively based on the games v. the Cats.

On the other side, I don't see why Cam Newton isn't getting that much respect either, especially while at home.

Kaep hit a total of 6 different targets while at freezing Lambeau, and he still had to use his legs. So the passing game while still a bit schizo is starting to find it's way somehow. That's how much Crabs adds to it. The key is forcing Kaep to get the ball out quick and then making him decide when to run. Then the 49er passing offense get's even more schizo.

 

[BassNBrew]

Saints fans gettin' all kinds of disrespect here. Which this thread has nothing to do with.

Hawks fans everywhere. I'll be rooting for your team next week against either the Saints or Hawks.

eta: Unless I'm still in the fbg post season contest in which case it's go Saints.

As of this moment, most of the Bay Area media is still dining on the win against the Packers. I'll post something about this game later.

Enjoy. Not sure why you guys aren't getting more respect, after all you were very close last year to the title. I'd take every player on your offense ahead of their Seattle counterpart except for Lynch/Gore. I didn't see enough of either team to gauge the defenses, but it was a push as to who is better defensively based on the games v. the Cats.

On the other side, I don't see why Cam Newton isn't getting that much respect either, especially while at home.

Kaep hit a total of 6 different targets while at freezing Lambeau, and he still had to use his legs. So the passing game while still a bit schizo is starting to find it's way somehow. That's how much Crabs adds to it. The key is forcing Kaep to get the ball out quick and then making him decide when to run. Then the 49er passing offense get's even more schizo.

Hard to tell about Cam. He's been money in the clutch recently but the offense has struggled for most of the last several games. Is it a Cam issue or are the coaches holding him back? He still has accuracy problems and would be among the league leader in interceptions if it wasn't for the fact his throws are so high they either clear the deep safety by several yards or peg the guy in the third row of the stands. The receiving corps was already one of the worst in the league and with Smith hobbled I'm sure there are some college corps that are better and maybe even the Jets. Lafell shouldn't even be in the league and you guys didn't want Ginn.

 

[drummer]

Saints fans gettin' all kinds of disrespect here. Which this thread has nothing to do with.

Hawks fans everywhere. I'll be rooting for your team next week against either the Saints or Hawks.

eta: Unless I'm still in the fbg post season contest in which case it's go Saints.

As of this moment, most of the Bay Area media is still dining on the win against the Packers. I'll post something about this game later.

Enjoy. Not sure why you guys aren't getting more respect, after all you were very close last year to the title. I'd take every player on your offense ahead of their Seattle counterpart except for Lynch/Gore. I didn't see enough of either team to gauge the defenses, but it was a push as to who is better defensively based on the games v. the Cats.

On the other side, I don't see why Cam Newton isn't getting that much respect either, especially while at home.

Kaep hit a total of 6 different targets while at freezing Lambeau, and he still had to use his legs. So the passing game while still a bit schizo is starting to find it's way somehow. That's how much Crabs adds to it. The key is forcing Kaep to get the ball out quick and then making him decide when to run. Then the 49er passing offense get's even more schizo.

Hard to tell about Cam. He's been money in the clutch recently but the offense has struggled for most of the last several games. Is it a Cam issue or are the coaches holding him back? He still has accuracy problems and would be among the league leader in interceptions if it wasn't for the fact his throws are so high they either clear the deep safety by several yards or peg the guy in the third row of the stands. The receiving corps was already one of the worst in the league and with Smith hobbled I'm sure there are some college corps that are better and maybe even the Jets. Lafell shouldn't even be in the league and you guys didn't want Ginn.

I dunno much about the Panthers at this point. I do know that Ginn is speed they don't have at the return game. They let him go to have guys like Kyle Williams and AJ Jenkins who are both gone.

 

[Alkahsu]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

A projection for the game that the thread is about? I think that's what everyone would expect.

Of course that's what you think.

Why would I think anything else? Not sure why you think a thread about this game shouldn't have predictions about the game...

 

[beef]

SF offense needs to play much better if they want to win this week.

 

[drummer]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

A projection for the game that the thread is about? I think that's what everyone would expect.

Of course that's what you think.

Why would I think anything else? Not sure why you think a thread about this game shouldn't have predictions about the game...

I can see you have put a lot of thought in this.

 

[Alkahsu]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

A projection for the game that the thread is about? I think that's what everyone would expect.

Of course that's what you think.

Why would I think anything else? Not sure why you think a thread about this game shouldn't have predictions about the game...

I can see you have put a lot of thought in this.

If you think discussing the topic of the thread requires a lot of thought I feel sorry for you.

 

[drummer]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

A projection for the game that the thread is about? I think that's what everyone would expect.

Of course that's what you think.

Why would I think anything else? Not sure why you think a thread about this game shouldn't have predictions about the game...

I can see you have put a lot of thought in this.

If you think discussing the topic of the thread requires a lot of thought I feel sorry for you.

Don't get so emotional. It clouds your thinking.

 

[grateful zed]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

A projection for the game that the thread is about? I think that's what everyone would expect.

Of course that's what you think.

Why would I think anything else? Not sure why you think a thread about this game shouldn't have predictions about the game...

you dont have to be so touchy, everyone here has pretty much figured you out.

 

[Breesisdaman]

As a 'Hawks fan I can't wait to see San Francisco up in Seattle the following week.

As a Saints fan it pains me to pull for Carolina. But that is where I think the Saints would have the best chance to continue after Seattle.

 

[5Rings]

Nine pages on the other NFC game and no thread on this game...

I guess I understand why as this game will likely be a blowout of enormous proportions. San Fran is coming off a huge victory in Green Bay over one of the top QBs in the league. Carolina struggled to a one point victory over San Fran earlier in the year. That was the high point of the Carolina season and they have been trending down since while the 49ers are now on a roll. Crabtree's presence will be a huge difference maker. Go back and watch the Miami/Carolina game tape. Besides seeing Wallace running free behind the secondary by 10 yards, you'll see him dropping sure TDs. Crabtree won't drop those catches. For those playing fantasy NFL playoffs, Crabtree is a must start...160 yards and two TDs min. I would suggest more, but I have to allot 120 and 1 for VD. With Gore getting 2 TDs and the defense picking up another, I can't see Crabtree eclypsing those numbers after SF pulls their starters early in the 4th.

I'd like to think that the Carolina offense could hang, but their most effective weapon is Mike Tolbert. While it will be fun to watch him blow up some 49ers, he's not ADP. Stewart/Smith hurt and less than 100%. DWilly old. LaFell sucks. I suspect the 49ers will take away the only legit weapon in Olsen. Ginn Jr may make a little noise on the occasions he doesn't drop the ball. Newton will have to carry a big load. Playing from behind I'd expect Cam to throw 3 INTs, but since the SF defenders aren't the size of a barn (and I mean a really tall barn), they won't have the opportunity. Probably 7 sacks for the SF defense, however they will yield more rushing yards to Cam than the RBs.

Final score 55 - 6 in favor of San Francisco.

Awesome post.

The only thing I agree with you on is Crabtree's impact. I think the mighty Panthers win, but Crab's presence is the X factor that might allow SF to get lucky and eek one out.

Is there anything worse than these n00b Hawk fans?

 

[Alkahsu]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

A projection for the game that the thread is about? I think that's what everyone would expect.

Of course that's what you think.

Why would I think anything else? Not sure why you think a thread about this game shouldn't have predictions about the game...

I can see you have put a lot of thought in this.

If you think discussing the topic of the thread requires a lot of thought I feel sorry for you.

Don't get so emotional. It clouds your thinking.

You're not even trying anymore.

 

[drummer]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

A projection for the game that the thread is about? I think that's what everyone would expect.

Of course that's what you think.

Why would I think anything else? Not sure why you think a thread about this game shouldn't have predictions about the game...

I can see you have put a lot of thought in this.

If you think discussing the topic of the thread requires a lot of thought I feel sorry for you.

Don't get so emotional. It clouds your thinking.

You're not even trying anymore.

That's what you think

 

[Alkahsu]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

A projection for the game that the thread is about? I think that's what everyone would expect.

Of course that's what you think.

Why would I think anything else? Not sure why you think a thread about this game shouldn't have predictions about the game...

I can see you have put a lot of thought in this.

If you think discussing the topic of the thread requires a lot of thought I feel sorry for you.

Don't get so emotional. It clouds your thinking.

You're not even trying anymore.

That's what you think

The mind games!!!!! So next level.

 

[drummer]

The mind games!!!!! So next level.

Maybe, maybe not.

 

[Not Sleeping]

Nine pages on the other NFC game and no thread on this game...

I guess I understand why as this game will likely be a blowout of enormous proportions. San Fran is coming off a huge victory in Green Bay over one of the top QBs in the league. Carolina struggled to a one point victory over San Fran earlier in the year. That was the high point of the Carolina season and they have been trending down since while the 49ers are now on a roll. Crabtree's presence will be a huge difference maker. Go back and watch the Miami/Carolina game tape. Besides seeing Wallace running free behind the secondary by 10 yards, you'll see him dropping sure TDs. Crabtree won't drop those catches. For those playing fantasy NFL playoffs, Crabtree is a must start...160 yards and two TDs min. I would suggest more, but I have to allot 120 and 1 for VD. With Gore getting 2 TDs and the defense picking up another, I can't see Crabtree eclypsing those numbers after SF pulls their starters early in the 4th.

I'd like to think that the Carolina offense could hang, but their most effective weapon is Mike Tolbert. While it will be fun to watch him blow up some 49ers, he's not ADP. Stewart/Smith hurt and less than 100%. DWilly old. LaFell sucks. I suspect the 49ers will take away the only legit weapon in Olsen. Ginn Jr may make a little noise on the occasions he doesn't drop the ball. Newton will have to carry a big load. Playing from behind I'd expect Cam to throw 3 INTs, but since the SF defenders aren't the size of a barn (and I mean a really tall barn), they won't have the opportunity. Probably 7 sacks for the SF defense, however they will yield more rushing yards to Cam than the RBs.

Final score 55 - 6 in favor of San Francisco.

Awesome post.

The only thing I agree with you on is Crabtree's impact. I think the mighty Panthers win, but Crab's presence is the X factor that might allow SF to get lucky and eek one out.

Is there anything worse than these n00b Hawk fans?

Is this the Battle of the Reverse Jinx?

 

[drummer]

I'm trying to figure out who the better QB is between Newton and Kaep. I've been harsh on Kaep over the past eight games of the regular season - at once even surmising that on a lesser team he could be just another Geno Smith on say like a team like the Browns (no offense CLE fans). Of course I in the past has sold Kaep's potential and value with the 49ers and the offense, and I ahve posted how how he has improved the offense with Boldin and Davis having their best season as of late with Kaep at QB. Yet he still hasn't carried as much offense as Newton has in their respective careers, and I find Newton more mature and a bit more polished than Kaap is as of right now.

Anybody CAR fans care to discuss this?

 

[Short Corner]

SF could barely handle a horrible GB defense, I don't see how they'll be any better against CAR. Kaepernick throws 2 picks this game. Luckily for SF, CAR offense is not good to begin with and they're banged up. SF wins and then gets spanked in SEA next week.

Yeah, this is what I expected out of a thread like this.

A projection for the game that the thread is about? I think that's what everyone would expect.

Of course that's what you think.

Why would I think anything else? Not sure why you think a thread about this game shouldn't have predictions about the game...

I can see you have put a lot of thought in this.

If you think discussing the topic of the thread requires a lot of thought I feel sorry for you.

Don't get so emotional. It clouds your thinking.

You're not even trying anymore.

To be fair, he never really needed to.

 

[Jayrok]

I'm trying to figure out who the better QB is between Newton and Kaep. I've been harsh on Kaep over the past eight games of the regular season - at once even surmising that on a lesser team he could be just another Geno Smith on say like a team like the Browns (no offense CLE fans). Of course I in the past has sold Kaep's potential and value with the 49ers and the offense, and I ahve posted how how he has improved the offense with Boldin and Davis having their best season as of late with Kaep at QB. Yet he still hasn't carried as much offense as Newton has in their respective careers, and I find Newton more mature and a bit more polished than Kaap is as of right now.

Anybody CAR fans care to discuss this?

Cam is the better QB. Both are still raw at reading defenses, but Cam has all the tools to be an elite QB. Kaep has a better supporting cast on offense. Swap the players at the skill positions and Kaep doesn't get SF to the playoffs.

 

[Jayrok]

BnB, keep doing that voodoo that you do so well. How dare they favor SF by almost a FG in Charlotte. I also read that Kaep said that Greg Hardy's mom was so fat her Quidditch robes have stretch marks.

 

[thecatch]

I'm trying to figure out who the better QB is between Newton and Kaep. I've been harsh on Kaep over the past eight games of the regular season - at once even surmising that on a lesser team he could be just another Geno Smith on say like a team like the Browns (no offense CLE fans). Of course I in the past has sold Kaep's potential and value with the 49ers and the offense, and I ahve posted how how he has improved the offense with Boldin and Davis having their best season as of late with Kaep at QB. Yet he still hasn't carried as much offense as Newton has in their respective careers, and I find Newton more mature and a bit more polished than Kaap is as of right now.

Anybody CAR fans care to discuss this?

Cam is the better QB. Both are still raw at reading defenses, but Cam has all the tools to be an elite QB. Kaep has a better supporting cast on offense. Swap the players at the skill positions and Kaep doesn't get SF to the playoffs.

What tools does Cam have that Kaepernick doesn't? I only saw two of Newton's games this year, but they seem to have pretty similar strength and weaknesses. Newton might be slightly more polished at this point, but that's to be expected given their respective number of NFL starts.

 

[Jayrok]

I'm trying to figure out who the better QB is between Newton and Kaep. I've been harsh on Kaep over the past eight games of the regular season - at once even surmising that on a lesser team he could be just another Geno Smith on say like a team like the Browns (no offense CLE fans). Of course I in the past has sold Kaep's potential and value with the 49ers and the offense, and I ahve posted how how he has improved the offense with Boldin and Davis having their best season as of late with Kaep at QB. Yet he still hasn't carried as much offense as Newton has in their respective careers, and I find Newton more mature and a bit more polished than Kaap is as of right now.

Anybody CAR fans care to discuss this?

Cam is the better QB. Both are still raw at reading defenses, but Cam has all the tools to be an elite QB. Kaep has a better supporting cast on offense. Swap the players at the skill positions and Kaep doesn't get SF to the playoffs.

What tools does Cam have that Kaepernick doesn't? I only saw two of Newton's games this year, but they seem to have pretty similar strength and weaknesses. Newton might be slightly more polished at this point, but that's to be expected given their respective number of NFL starts.

Cam is bigger, stronger, just as fast if not faster. I think Cam has the stronger arm. Cam is a punishing runner when he wants to be and yet elusive in the pocket too. There is no one I would rather have on a QB sneak when I need one yard. And there is no other QB that I would rather have on the edge with the ball where one man has to try and keep him from getting a couple/few yards.

With that said, Cam does have issues settling down in a game. He tends to overthrow targets early, but usually settles down and then puts balls on target. He has an aging (and injured) Steve Smith, but no other WR that strikes fear into the hearts of defenses. I'd love him to have Bolden and Crabtree to work with.

This is all my opinion, of course. And I am a homer. Kaep has lots of talent too, for sure. I just think Cam is the better QB of the two.

 

[thecatch]

Cam may very well be the better QB at the moment (I'm particularly impressed that he made Ginn relevant), but he isn't faster and doesn't have a stronger arm. I think its probably a draw from a tools perspective, but as a Niner fan I hope Kaepernick shows the same development as a passer next year as Cam did this year.

 

[Spin]

Cam may very well be the better QB at the moment (I'm particularly impressed that he made Ginn relevant), but he isn't faster and doesn't have a stronger arm. I think its probably a draw from a tools perspective, but as a Niner fan I hope Kaepernick shows the same development as a passer next year as Cam did this year.

This, beat me to it. No way Cam is faster. Per their 40 times, Kaep = 4.53, Cam = 4.58.

 

[5Rings]

I'm trying to figure out who the better QB is between Newton and Kaep. I've been harsh on Kaep over the past eight games of the regular season - at once even surmising that on a lesser team he could be just another Geno Smith on say like a team like the Browns (no offense CLE fans). Of course I in the past has sold Kaep's potential and value with the 49ers and the offense, and I ahve posted how how he has improved the offense with Boldin and Davis having their best season as of late with Kaep at QB. Yet he still hasn't carried as much offense as Newton has in their respective careers, and I find Newton more mature and a bit more polished than Kaap is as of right now.

Anybody CAR fans care to discuss this?

Cam is the better QB. Both are still raw at reading defenses, but Cam has all the tools to be an elite QB. Kaep has a better supporting cast on offense. Swap the players at the skill positions and Kaep doesn't get SF to the playoffs.

What tools does Cam have that Kaepernick doesn't? I only saw two of Newton's games this year, but they seem to have pretty similar strength and weaknesses. Newton might be slightly more polished at this point, but that's to be expected given their respective number of NFL starts.

I think he (CAM) reads defenses better. There have been dozens of plays this season--including 3-4 times vs GB-- I'll watch Kap's body language and eyes at the line and say, "He's confused, he's going to run". I haven't missed yet...and if I can see this, I know other teams can too.

Crab truly is the x-factor though.

 

[thecatch]

I'm trying to figure out who the better QB is between Newton and Kaep. I've been harsh on Kaep over the past eight games of the regular season - at once even surmising that on a lesser team he could be just another Geno Smith on say like a team like the Browns (no offense CLE fans). Of course I in the past has sold Kaep's potential and value with the 49ers and the offense, and I ahve posted how how he has improved the offense with Boldin and Davis having their best season as of late with Kaep at QB. Yet he still hasn't carried as much offense as Newton has in their respective careers, and I find Newton more mature and a bit more polished than Kaap is as of right now.

Anybody CAR fans care to discuss this?

Cam is the better QB. Both are still raw at reading defenses, but Cam has all the tools to be an elite QB. Kaep has a better supporting cast on offense. Swap the players at the skill positions and Kaep doesn't get SF to the playoffs.

What tools does Cam have that Kaepernick doesn't? I only saw two of Newton's games this year, but they seem to have pretty similar strength and weaknesses. Newton might be slightly more polished at this point, but that's to be expected given their respective number of NFL starts.

I think he (CAM) reads defenses better. There have been dozens of plays this season--including 3-4 times vs GB-- I'll watch Kap's body language and eyes at the line and say, "He's confused, he's going to run". I haven't missed yet...and if I can see this, I know other teams can too.Crab truly is the x-factor though.

That's what I was getting at with my "polished" comment. I think Cam is slightly further along in that regard than Kaep. But I don't think Cam has any physical tools that Kaep doesn't.

 

[5Rings]

I'm trying to figure out who the better QB is between Newton and Kaep. I've been harsh on Kaep over the past eight games of the regular season - at once even surmising that on a lesser team he could be just another Geno Smith on say like a team like the Browns (no offense CLE fans). Of course I in the past has sold Kaep's potential and value with the 49ers and the offense, and I ahve posted how how he has improved the offense with Boldin and Davis having their best season as of late with Kaep at QB. Yet he still hasn't carried as much offense as Newton has in their respective careers, and I find Newton more mature and a bit more polished than Kaap is as of right now.

Anybody CAR fans care to discuss this?

Cam is the better QB. Both are still raw at reading defenses, but Cam has all the tools to be an elite QB. Kaep has a better supporting cast on offense. Swap the players at the skill positions and Kaep doesn't get SF to the playoffs.

What tools does Cam have that Kaepernick doesn't? I only saw two of Newton's games this year, but they seem to have pretty similar strength and weaknesses. Newton might be slightly more polished at this point, but that's to be expected given their respective number of NFL starts.

I think he (CAM) reads defenses better. There have been dozens of plays this season--including 3-4 times vs GB-- I'll watch Kap's body language and eyes at the line and say, "He's confused, he's going to run". I haven't missed yet...and if I can see this, I know other teams can too.Crab truly is the x-factor though.

That's what I was getting at with my "polished" comment. I think Cam is slightly further along in that regard than Kaep. But I don't think Cam has any physical tools that Kaep doesn't.

I agree with you.

 

[BassNBrew]

No way can Kap compete with Cam's arm strength. Proof is here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhv9uXMUEec

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

As a 'Hawks fan I can't wait to see San Francisco up in Seattle the following week.

Hm, yes, an intra-divisional final, I could see that.

But not that one.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I don't think this is going to end very well for Kaeprrrrnickus.

Panthercats win this one 26-16 (if Smiff plays).

 

[5Rings]

No way can Kap compete with Cam's arm strength. Proof is here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhv9uXMUEec

He looks like he could play both ways

 

[drummer]

I'm trying to figure out who the better QB is between Newton and Kaep. I've been harsh on Kaep over the past eight games of the regular season - at once even surmising that on a lesser team he could be just another Geno Smith on say like a team like the Browns (no offense CLE fans). Of course I in the past has sold Kaep's potential and value with the 49ers and the offense, and I ahve posted how how he has improved the offense with Boldin and Davis having their best season as of late with Kaep at QB. Yet he still hasn't carried as much offense as Newton has in their respective careers, and I find Newton more mature and a bit more polished than Kaap is as of right now.

Anybody CAR fans care to discuss this?

Cam is the better QB. Both are still raw at reading defenses, but Cam has all the tools to be an elite QB. Kaep has a better supporting cast on offense. Swap the players at the skill positions and Kaep doesn't get SF to the playoffs.

What tools does Cam have that Kaepernick doesn't? I only saw two of Newton's games this year, but they seem to have pretty similar strength and weaknesses. Newton might be slightly more polished at this point, but that's to be expected given their respective number of NFL starts.

I think he (CAM) reads defenses better. There have been dozens of plays this season--including 3-4 times vs GB-- I'll watch Kap's body language and eyes at the line and say, "He's confused, he's going to run". I haven't missed yet...and if I can see this, I know other teams can too.

Crab truly is the x-factor though.

When Kaep's eyes get big...and he has that look on his face...then drops back in the pocket...yeah, you see that confusion easy.

 

[Not Sleeping]

You know what surprises me? That there's no mention anywhere (that I've seen) about San Francisco having to travel to the East Coast for a 10am Pacific Time start. Why couldn't they make the Carolina game a 4PM ET start? Everybody's heard all the stats about west coast teams and the early morning starts. Why would the schedule maker purposely set up that scenario?

Even if it doesn't affect the team, it affects us as fans. Hard to get into the heavy drinking at 10am.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

You know what surprises me? That there's no mention anywhere (that I've seen) about San Francisco having to travel to the East Coast for a 10am Pacific Time start. Why couldn't they make the Carolina game a 4PM ET start? Everybody's heard all the stats about west coast teams and the early morning starts. Why would the schedule maker purposely set up that scenario?

Even if it doesn't affect the team, it affects us as fans. Hard to get into the heavy drinking at 10am.

Kind of curious about that myself, how are the game times and days determined?

 

[BassNBrew]

You know what surprises me? That there's no mention anywhere (that I've seen) about San Francisco having to travel to the East Coast for a 10am Pacific Time start. Why couldn't they make the Carolina game a 4PM ET start? Everybody's heard all the stats about west coast teams and the early morning starts. Why would the schedule maker purposely set up that scenario?

Even if it doesn't affect the team, it affects us as fans. Hard to get into the heavy drinking at 10am.

Kind of curious about that myself, how are the game times and days determined?

One NFC and one AFC game each day. Pats automatically get primetime game. Sort out rest from there.