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I don't have any problems with Schierholtz getting sent down. If I had m way he'd be starting in LF, but If I had my way a lot of things would be different. Regardless, getting him at bats every day is the most important thing for him whether it be in the majors or at AAA. This will also give Freddie and Rajai one less person to split PT against. I think the opening day infield will look somethingl likeOrtmeier/Aurilia - Durham - Bocock - Velez/Frandsen
For me, I'd find this one more depressing. Chances are it would perform marginally better offensively this year, but I am holding out hope that maybe somehow one of the kids will catch lightning in a bottle and become a barely below-average major leaguer. It would be really neat if the G-men could somehow develop a marginally better than replacement level position player.
Isn't the pitching staff our strength? Isn't the rest of the team going to be built around speed and defense?I know it's only spring training, but after reading that article it sounds like the team is already pressing. They've spent all offseason trying to convience themselves they're not horrible, I feel so bad for them now that the're realizing the're no good.
Matt CainTim LincecumThat's good for at least 21. I think the rest of the team is hovering around 0, they might eventually hit negatively though. So, maybe. Serious answer... In a increasingly competetive division I say they win 68-71 games.cobalt_27 said:
What the #### happened to my youth movement? Brian did you break it again?
Well, Bocock is younger than Vizquel, Rowand is younger than Bonds and Castillo is younger than Feliz.Everybody else is one year older than last year, except for Durham and Aurilia who are 2 and 3 years older respectively.
Zito settled down after a shaky 1st but he would have needed to pitch a shutout today to keep the Giants in the ballgame.
CainOnly 161 more to sit through. Maybe someone under 30 (other than Bocock) will start tomorrow.
Maybe somebody under 30 where we have the option not to?Eephus said:Caincommisholio said:Only 161 more to sit through. Maybe someone under 30 (other than Bocock) will start tomorrow.
It took three games but here come the yoofs. Velez and Rajai Davis get the starts. MLB.com shows Davis at 3B and Castillo in LF but that's gotta be a mistake.Lincecum scratched from his start due to weather? In Los Angeles? Sure hope there's nothing more than that going on.Maybe somebody under 30 where we have the option not to?CainOnly 161 more to sit through. Maybe someone under 30 (other than Bocock) will start tomorrow.
Billingsly too. They expect a rain delay. I was excited to watch this game too. No Vin Scully feed and now no good young pitchers to watch. Im going to bed.It took three games but here come the yoofs. Velez and Rajai Davis get the starts. MLB.com shows Davis at 3B and Castillo in LF but that's gotta be a mistake.Lincecum scratched from his start due to weather? In Los Angeles? Sure hope there's nothing more than that going on.Maybe somebody under 30 where we have the option not to?CainOnly 161 more to sit through. Maybe someone under 30 (other than Bocock) will start tomorrow.
I was really looking forward to watching the two youngsters duel tonight. The second I heard one was going to be scratched I lost a lot of interest, the second I heard both were being scratched I fell asleep.Billingsly too. They expect a rain delay. I was excited to watch this game too. No Vin Scully feed and now no good young pitchers to watch. Im going to bed.It took three games but here come the yoofs. Velez and Rajai Davis get the starts. MLB.com shows Davis at 3B and Castillo in LF but that's gotta be a mistake.Lincecum scratched from his start due to weather? In Los Angeles? Sure hope there's nothing more than that going on.Maybe somebody under 30 where we have the option not to?CainOnly 161 more to sit through. Maybe someone under 30 (other than Bocock) will start tomorrow.
I'm relatively optimistic that the gigantes will have a good bullpen this year. Well, at least decent. I'm excited that management made the right call and kept both Merkin and Threets.
ooof ... 2bb, 8ks, and 7ERs.
Does anyone in San Francisco ever bring up Nathan/Liriano/Bonser for Pierzynski?How does this guy Sabean still have a job?
Does anyone in San Francisco ever bring up Nathan/Liriano/Bonser for Pierzynski?
Can't mention Sabean without hearing the nathan deal mentioned. At the time I (and a lot of other people) thought it was a fair deal.I have no idea how he still has a job.Does anyone in San Francisco ever bring up Nathan/Liriano/Bonser for Pierzynski?
A LOT better last night. 6 1/3 2 BB 10 K and 0 ER - pretty snazzy. Two walk-off wins in a row over the padres has me smiling for a change. Giants' fans challenge this year is to enjoy the wins without letting the losses bother you too much. Fred Lewis' double play and Daniel Ortmeier's gamewinning hit were also very enjoyable.
Think Sanchez keeps his spot in the rotation when Lowry returns? Looks like either he or Correia would be going going back to the pen.
Good question. Sanchez would give them another lefty in the bullpen but if he can pitch like he did last night, a swingman would be a waste of his talents. I wonder if either of them could be packaged for a bat.It could be academic since Lowry is 1-2 weeks away from throwing off a mound.
Can we move Zito to the pen? I expect one of Lowry, Correia, and Sanchez to be traded before the break. 3 games in a row! We better enjoy it now while it lasts.Eephus said:
commisholio said:
I'd like to see a Ztio "injury" followed by several "rehab" starts in Fresno to work on his arm strength and command.
nice debut, 2 for 3 with a 3-run HR
I truly do not understand this organization. The Burriss call-up made no sense to me. OK, you need a backup plan to give Bocock a day off, why not call up the AAA guy Ivan Ochoa? Why start Burriss' option clock so early when he's clearly not ready yet? Next, why DFA Raj Davis? He is a perfectly good 5th outfielder (OK, he'd be better if he could hit a little more), but as a late inning defensive replacement/pinch runner he has a lot of utlility. Bizarre.Finally, in closing, #### Barry Zito and his rediculous contract, and #### Sabes and Magowan for panicking in the 2006-7 offseason and throwing all that money at him.
they should cut him a $60 million check and tell him to get lost
I don't think the Burriss and Rajai moves will crack Sabean's bottom ten list. Arbitration clocks aren't a major concern for grade C utilityman prospects. We're not talking about Jay Bruce here. At least they didn't go out and sign Neifi Perez or something. I'm wondering if there's something about Rajai Davis that we're not privy to, because I agree he's a useful player, especially with Roberts out. Even if SF gets nothing for Davis, the Matt Morris deal wasn't bad by Sabean's standards.Only 5 7/8ths more seasons of Zito's contract (plus a club option for 2014)
Oh, I agree the Burris-Davis moves aren't the most significant in the universe, they just didn't make any sense to me. Burris isn't likely to ever account for much (though he did hit a sweet opposite-field double to score the go ahead run in the 13th last night), and I'd way rather see him than Neifi or Jose Vizcaino or Ramon Martinez or someone like that, but still, it doesn't make any sense to me.And then, why DFA Davis rather than put Fransden on the 60 day DL (which gives another 40 man roster spot, I think)? I suspect you may be right about there being another reason we haven't heard yet.I don't think the Burriss and Rajai moves will crack Sabean's bottom ten list. Arbitration clocks aren't a major concern for grade C utilityman prospects. We're not talking about Jay Bruce here. At least they didn't go out and sign Neifi Perez or something. I'm wondering if there's something about Rajai Davis that we're not privy to, because I agree he's a useful player, especially with Roberts out. Even if SF gets nothing for Davis, the Matt Morris deal wasn't bad by Sabean's standards.Only 5 7/8ths more seasons of Zito's contract (plus a club option for 2014)
Lewis is already 27 so there's probably not a lot of development left. He's always been thought of as a LHB side of a platoon, even though his limited big league production against lefties has been pretty good. He's already outlasted Rajai Davis, Schierholz and Roberts, which ain't much but it's the only competition he had.I don't think he has much power upside but he's always been a high percentage base stealer. If he can stay in the leadoff spot against RHP and not totally suck against lefties, he can have some value as an OF5.
