Santana Moss Injury (1 Viewer)

[Texican]

From PFT:

Redskins signed WR Keenan McCardell and released S Omar Stoutmire.

McCardell is on his last legs, but has a chance to make an impact if he picks up Al Saunders' offense quickly. Santana Moss (groin) appears likely to miss at least Week 5, and Washington is unwilling to rely on Brandon Lloyd. James Thrash, McCardell, and Reche Caldwell will presumably compete in practice this week to start opposite Antwaan Randle El vs. Detroit. Oct. 1 - 1:49 pm et

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Say it ain't so!

 

[BustedKnuckles]

News & Notes: Moss Sits Out Practice

By Gary Fitzgerald

Redskins.com

October 1, 2007

Santana Moss sat out Monday's practice due to a strained groin injury and his status for Sunday's game against the Detroit Lions is uncertain.

Moss suffered the injury in the Redskins' 24-17 loss to the New York Giants on Sept. 23. The Redskins had a bye last weekend, giving Moss time to rest the injury.

Even though Moss says the injury is "feeling better," it appears he could need more time before he's ready to play.

"It's a long season, and I feel like I have to be smart with it, so that's what I'm going to do," Moss said. "I don't want this to continue to bother me [all season]. I'd rather just get this thing right."

Asked for his status for the Detroit Lions game, Moss said: "Who knows what will happen later on in the week? Right now, it's feeling better and we'll just go from there."

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Despite reports Santana Moss (groin) could be out several weeks, coach Joe Gibbs says he doesn't "anticipate" being without the wideout in Week 5.

Moss, who missed practice Monday, says he hopes to play against Detroit, but doesn't know for sure. Keep track of his practice load this week before using him. Indications are so far that Moss is less than 50-50 to suit up.

 

[Texican]

This sux

 

[-OZ-]

bump up Randle El?

 

[thayman]

bump up Randle El?

If Moss doesn't play then I think you do considerably. The Lions combined scoring in each game this year has been 57, 37, 106, and 64 points.

 

[menobrown]

One thing that disappoints me about Moss is he chose to leave town this past week during the bye week instead of staying in Washington and having his groin treated. Hines Ward missed this past week and he said he lived in the training room trying to get himself ready to play this weekend and despite the fact he could not go I appreciated the effort. When Moss got hurt last week he said he'd check in with the trainers next week and see were he is at. I find that a little disappointing.

 

[Big Score]

I think the McKardell signing tells us all we need to know about Moss & his groin.

I read somewhere that the Skins have been very happy with Caldwell & he was slated to start being worked into the WR rotation at Lloyd's expense.

Besides the obvious bump for ARE, Caldwell is the one to look at here.

My

Skins :( feel free to corroborate or condemn.

 

[thayman]

I think the McKardell signing tells us all we need to know about Moss & his groin.I read somewhere that the Skins have been very happy with Caldwell & he was slated to start being worked into the WR rotation at Lloyd's expense. Besides the obvious bump for ARE, Caldwell is the one to look at here.My Skins feel free to corroborate or condemn.

I agree, but it has also been Snyder's tendancy when a weakness shows up to go out and get 2 or 3 guys that can strengthen that area.

 

[Big Score]

I think the McKardell signing tells us all we need to know about Moss & his groin.I read somewhere that the Skins have been very happy with Caldwell & he was slated to start being worked into the WR rotation at Lloyd's expense. Besides the obvious bump for ARE, Caldwell is the one to look at here.My Skins feel free to corroborate or condemn.

I agree, but it has also been Snyder's tendancy when a weakness shows up to go out and get 2 or 3 guys that can strengthen that area.

So besides McKardell signing, you're looking for the Skins to go after a few more WR's?

 

[JAMMIN]

Despite reports Santana Moss (groin) could be out several weeks, coach Joe Gibbs says he doesn't "anticipate" being without the wideout in Week 5. Moss, who missed practice Monday, says he hopes to play against Detroit, but doesn't know for sure. Keep track of his practice load this week before using him. Indications are so far that Moss is less than 50-50 to suit up.

This is actually pretty positive.

 

[thayman]

I think the McKardell signing tells us all we need to know about Moss & his groin.I read somewhere that the Skins have been very happy with Caldwell & he was slated to start being worked into the WR rotation at Lloyd's expense. Besides the obvious bump for ARE, Caldwell is the one to look at here.My Skins feel free to corroborate or condemn.

I agree, but it has also been Snyder's tendancy when a weakness shows up to go out and get 2 or 3 guys that can strengthen that area.

So besides McKardell signing, you're looking for the Skins to go after a few more WR's?

They have already added Caldwell.

 

[Big Score]

I think the McKardell signing tells us all we need to know about Moss & his groin.I read somewhere that the Skins have been very happy with Caldwell & he was slated to start being worked into the WR rotation at Lloyd's expense. Besides the obvious bump for ARE, Caldwell is the one to look at here.My Skins feel free to corroborate or condemn.

I agree, but it has also been Snyder's tendancy when a weakness shows up to go out and get 2 or 3 guys that can strengthen that area.

So besides McKardell signing, you're looking for the Skins to go after a few more WR's?

They have already added Caldwell.

My mistake thayman, I misunderstood your post. I was thinking when you said "weakness showing up" that weakness you were referring to, was the Moss injury & besides the McKardell signing, expected Snyder to go after even more WR's to cover for Moss.Now I understand that you think the McKardell signing was maybe going to happen all along as the WR's, with or without Moss, are the weakness you're referring to & the timing of the McKardell signing coinciding with the Moss injury, is just coincidence.

 

[thayman]

I think the McKardell signing tells us all we need to know about Moss & his groin.I read somewhere that the Skins have been very happy with Caldwell & he was slated to start being worked into the WR rotation at Lloyd's expense. Besides the obvious bump for ARE, Caldwell is the one to look at here.My Skins feel free to corroborate or condemn.

I agree, but it has also been Snyder's tendancy when a weakness shows up to go out and get 2 or 3 guys that can strengthen that area.

So besides McKardell signing, you're looking for the Skins to go after a few more WR's?

They have already added Caldwell.

My mistake thayman, I misunderstood your post. I was thinking when you said "weakness showing up" that weakness you were referring to, was the Moss injury & besides the McKardell signing, expected Snyder to go after even more WR's to cover for Moss.Now I understand that you think the McKardell signing was maybe going to happen all along as the WR's, with or without Moss, are the weakness you're referring to & the timing of the McKardell signing coinciding with the Moss injury, is just coincidence.

I think that they saw that Lloyd sucked and wanted someone other than Thrash in there, that's when they went out and picked up Caldwell. I suspect that they at least had a eye on McCardell at the time, and once a slight amount of uncertainty came up about Moss that's when they picked him up. I feel that Snyder approaches FA signings now with the though of 1 out of 2 or 3 should pan out, so he is going to continue picking up a few at a time in problem areas. Until everything looks good across the board, we were burned a couple of years ago by Patten getting hurt, thus he went out and bought Randle El and Lloyd. Randle El has been good, Lloyd sucks.As a Skins fan I don't mind this too much, because I couldn't care how much he pays anyone. So long as we continue to improve.

 

[Gopher State]

Do Skins homers think it's time to cut bait with Moss,(FF teams skins are run first team, Campbell is improving, but if Moss misses 2 games what's his upside. In 10 team league, guys like Bobby Engram, James Jones are available and seem on track to out perform Moss. Any information here that Moss will turn it up later in the season, or predictions on what Moss's final numbers will be would be interesting.

 

[Da Guru]

Give Cooley a bump!

 

[pizzatyme]

Reche Caldwell might get the nod? reche

Reche's Eyes!

 

[zamboni]

bump up Randle El?

As someone else noted, I would say Cooley stands to benefit the most.

 

[raven1911]

I am just getting tired of S.Moss. I want to trade him but trade him for who? He seems so inconsistent and its hard to know when to put him in or bench him.

 

[Alluro]

I am just getting tired of S.Moss. I want to trade him but trade him for who? He seems so inconsistent and its hard to know when to put him in or bench him.

I just traded him for chambers and trent edwards in dynasty. I know chambers is mr inconsistency also, but i need to shake things up and I view edwards as a nice prospect.

 

[TeamDingo]

:camera:

 

[sprtbuf]

What does this do for Campbell short term or long term, depending on Moss being out...?

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I am just getting tired of S.Moss. I want to trade him but trade him for who? He seems so inconsistent and its hard to know when to put him in or bench him.

That's the time to buy, not sell. His value is low right now.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Afternoon update on Moss

Santana has not yet run since hurting his groin and that injury seems the most iffy of the bunch. Santana has been running in a water tank - not on land - and each day is a feeling out process.

 

[The Jerk]

I am just getting tired of S.Moss. I want to trade him but trade him for who? He seems so inconsistent and its hard to know when to put him in or bench him.

That's the time to buy, not sell. His value is low right now.

Rex Grossman's value is low right now, too.I like the contrarian thought, but sometimes you may perform addition by subtraction, even on a fantasy team. It's different if it's dynasty, but if you're focusing on 2007, Moss has done very little and I for one do not expect him to suddenly get healthy and see tons of targets and score a TD every other week. Six out of nine games with Campbell as his quarterback have seen Moss have three or fewer receptions, although one of those games included a TD and another saw 82 yards in receptions. Add injury to the mix and if you're 2-2 or worse, you may not have the luxury of hoping Moss gets both healthy and productive, because even if it happens, it may happen too late.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I am just getting tired of S.Moss. I want to trade him but trade him for who? He seems so inconsistent and its hard to know when to put him in or bench him.

That's the time to buy, not sell. His value is low right now.

Rex Grossman's value is low right now, too.I like the contrarian thought, but sometimes you may perform addition by subtraction, even on a fantasy team. It's different if it's dynasty, but if you're focusing on 2007, Moss has done very little and I for one do not expect him to suddenly get healthy and see tons of targets and score a TD every other week. Six out of nine games with Campbell as his quarterback have seen Moss have three or fewer receptions, although one of those games included a TD and another saw 82 yards in receptions. Add injury to the mix and if you're 2-2 or worse, you may not have the luxury of hoping Moss gets both healthy and productive, because even if it happens, it may happen too late.

And theres a flip side too that... if your 3 - 1 or 4 - 0; this is a nice player to target for the play-off run. Buy him cheap; stash him if he takes a week or 2 off.

 

[tombonneau]

Just wanting to bump to get any more current info on Moss. If he's out, you gotta think ARE becomes a decent start vs. the _etroit secondary, and maybe even Caldwell is worth a spot start in deeeeeeeeeep leagues.

 

[digitalamish]

I am just getting tired of S.Moss. I want to trade him but trade him for who? He seems so inconsistent and its hard to know when to put him in or bench him.

I just traded him for Berrian. Lucky for me, this news came out after the trade. So I don't have to worry about the injury.

 

[Peak]

I am just getting tired of S.Moss. I want to trade him but trade him for who? He seems so inconsistent and its hard to know when to put him in or bench him.

That's the time to buy, not sell. His value is low right now.

Rex Grossman's value is low right now, too.I like the contrarian thought, but sometimes you may perform addition by subtraction, even on a fantasy team. It's different if it's dynasty, but if you're focusing on 2007, Moss has done very little and I for one do not expect him to suddenly get healthy and see tons of targets and score a TD every other week. Six out of nine games with Campbell as his quarterback have seen Moss have three or fewer receptions, although one of those games included a TD and another saw 82 yards in receptions. Add injury to the mix and if you're 2-2 or worse, you may not have the luxury of hoping Moss gets both healthy and productive, because even if it happens, it may happen too late.

And theres a flip side too that... if your 3 - 1 or 4 - 0; this is a nice player to target for the play-off run. Buy him cheap; stash him if he takes a week or 2 off.

I'm more inclined to cut him and pickup someone who is prodcing now. Haing SSmith and Holt on my team, I was hoping SMoss would be an ideal 3WR to pair up with them on a decline or on bye weeks. As it stands now, both Holt and Smith are in decline and SMoss is no where to be found. Even being 3-1, I would rather drop him than stash him on the bench for now, especially with limited roster space. I think he's not going to see the light of day in my lineup unless he remains on the WW for a few more weeks.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Just wanting to bump to get any more current info on Moss. If he's out, you gotta think ARE becomes a decent start vs. the _etroit secondary, and maybe even Caldwell is worth a spot start in deeeeeeeeeep leagues.

At the moment his recovery situation is "day-to-day". Personally, I think there is a good chance he'll end up being a GTD, but we'll see.This is the latest info; more will probably come late this afternoon after practice:

Receiver Santana Moss (strained groin) "is doing better," Tyer said. "He hasn't run yet. We had him in the swim tank running and working on the elliptical machines, and he felt fine doing that. He'll do more [today]."

 

[menobrown]

Just wanting to bump to get any more current info on Moss. If he's out, you gotta think ARE becomes a decent start vs. the _etroit secondary, and maybe even Caldwell is worth a spot start in deeeeeeeeeep leagues.

Yes, ARE becomes a very good start IMO. In Curry's 3 games versus other teams other than Detroit he is averaging 2 catches for 30 yards and 1/3rd of a TD per game. Against Detroit he went for 10 catches, 133 and a TD.In Curtis 3 games versus other teams he is averaging 2.6 cathes for 34 yards and no TD's. Against Detroit he went for 11 catches, 221 yards and 3 TD's. Berrian averages 5.3 catches for 73.6 yards in his 3 games versus other teams and he had 8 catches for 99 yards against the Lions but also had several huge drops.So in 4 games this year the Lions have surrended a career game for Curtis, Curry's second best fantasy game of his career and Berrians best game of the season. The only team that failed to take advantage of the Lions was the Vikings and that is because they lack an NFL ready QB who can take advantage of them.