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Do you think they remain the same, go slightly up with Lloyd and Randle EL giving him more single coverage or slighty go down because more balls going to the new guys.
I think go down because of reversion to the mean after a career year and the new guys.Do you think they remain the same, go slightly up with Lloyd and Randle EL giving him more single coverage or slighty go down because more balls going to the new guys.
The number of balls may decrease but the amount of single coverage will increase which will likely increase his YAC a great deal and offset the lower receptions with more yards.....I think his numbers should take a hit, though he'll still be solid. Last year there was NO ONE playing WR other than Moss, so the ball was forced his way. Now, it should be spread out a bit more, which may open things up for Moss in coverage, but the number of balls thrown his way will decrease IMO.
he'll have more chances for longer tds , since he'll face more 1-on-1 coverage.he should be open even MORE, and is STILL the #1 wr on the team.I think his numbers should take a hit, though he'll still be solid. Last year there was NO ONE playing WR other than Moss, so the ball was forced his way. Now, it should be spread out a bit more, which may open things up for Moss in coverage, but the number of balls thrown his way will decrease IMO.
Cooley had 71/774/7 last year. I'm really not sure how much higher that can go, even with a guy (Saunders) who likes to use the TE/H-back in the passing game.I think Moss sees a slight drop in his numbers. And that's not a horrible thing. Moss was WR3 last year. He can easily remaing top 10 in 2006.he'll have more chances for longer tds , since he'll face more 1-on-1 coverage.he should be open even MORE, and is STILL the #1 wr on the team.I think his numbers should take a hit, though he'll still be solid. Last year there was NO ONE playing WR other than Moss, so the ball was forced his way. Now, it should be spread out a bit more, which may open things up for Moss in coverage, but the number of balls thrown his way will decrease IMO.
I'd say the biggest worry for Moss owners is going to come from Cooley, because Al Saunders loves to utilize the TE (Gonzalez)..you'll see alot of action going his way..I wouldn't doubt that Cooley winds up with 80 or 90 catches in 2006..so what that'll do to Moss' numbers remains to be seen..perhaps the yardage and reception totals drop a bit, but he should see a big rise in TD's b/c he'll only be in single coverages...
Well, they threw 15 TD's to their TE's/H-backs last year, so I have a hard time imagining that any more will go their way, especially with better WR's now playing for them. Moss' 9 TD's last year is a pretty moderate number for a guy who was essentially the only WR option for his team last year and who managed to lead the league in receiving yards but for Steve Smith. He averaged 17.7 ypc, but I could see that increasing as much as a full yard with the addition of Lloyd and Randle El to take pressure off of him. This receiving corps - whatever you think of its quality = speed.he'll have more chances for longer tds , since he'll face more 1-on-1 coverage.he should be open even MORE, and is STILL the #1 wr on the team.I think his numbers should take a hit, though he'll still be solid. Last year there was NO ONE playing WR other than Moss, so the ball was forced his way. Now, it should be spread out a bit more, which may open things up for Moss in coverage, but the number of balls thrown his way will decrease IMO.
I'd say the biggest worry for Moss owners is going to come from Cooley, because Al Saunders loves to utilize the TE (Gonzalez)..you'll see alot of action going his way..I wouldn't doubt that Cooley winds up with 80 or 90 catches in 2006..so what that'll do to Moss' numbers remains to be seen..perhaps the yardage and reception totals drop a bit, but he should see a big rise in TD's b/c he'll only be in single coverages...
Isn't this more of a cause/effect thing?I have a supremely talented 250 lb guy playing TE and a bunch of meh guys on the outside...So I throw to my super talented guy.he'll have more chances for longer tds , since he'll face more 1-on-1 coverage.he should be open even MORE, and is STILL the #1 wr on the team.I think his numbers should take a hit, though he'll still be solid. Last year there was NO ONE playing WR other than Moss, so the ball was forced his way. Now, it should be spread out a bit more, which may open things up for Moss in coverage, but the number of balls thrown his way will decrease IMO.
I'd say the biggest worry for Moss owners is going to come from Cooley, because Al Saunders loves to utilize the TE (Gonzalez)..you'll see alot of action going his way..I wouldn't doubt that Cooley winds up with 80 or 90 catches in 2006..so what that'll do to Moss' numbers remains to be seen..perhaps the yardage and reception totals drop a bit, but he should see a big rise in TD's b/c he'll only be in single coverages...
Exactly. I meant to add: Saunders also was in St. Louis in '99 with the Greatest Show on Turf, and I don't recall too many impressive TE statistics off of that team. Saunders will distribute the ball to those capable of handling it. Cooley's better than what was in St. Louis, so he'll get the ball more, but he's neither as good as Gonzalez as a receiver, nor were the KC WR's as good as this receiving corps in Washington, so a lot more passes will go to the WR's in Washington IMHO. Moss is the clear #1 option there, but I think we'll see numbers out of Lloyd and especially Randle El that we've never seen from them before.Isn't this more of a cause/effect thing?I have a supremely talented 250 lb guy playing TE and a bunch of meh guys on the outside...So I throw to my super talented guy.he'll have more chances for longer tds , since he'll face more 1-on-1 coverage.he should be open even MORE, and is STILL the #1 wr on the team.I think his numbers should take a hit, though he'll still be solid. Last year there was NO ONE playing WR other than Moss, so the ball was forced his way. Now, it should be spread out a bit more, which may open things up for Moss in coverage, but the number of balls thrown his way will decrease IMO.
I'd say the biggest worry for Moss owners is going to come from Cooley, because Al Saunders loves to utilize the TE (Gonzalez)..you'll see alot of action going his way..I wouldn't doubt that Cooley winds up with 80 or 90 catches in 2006..so what that'll do to Moss' numbers remains to be seen..perhaps the yardage and reception totals drop a bit, but he should see a big rise in TD's b/c he'll only be in single coverages...
Unless Saunders has been doing this his whole career (not sure) this is almost like saying Pat Riley likes feeding the ball into his center (Kareem, Ewing, Shaq) and would continue doing so if he had Eddy Grant at the 5.
I would think this helps Brunell as wellExactly. I meant to add: Saunders also was in St. Louis in '99 with the Greatest Show on Turf, and I don't recall too many impressive TE statistics off of that team. Saunders will distribute the ball to those capable of handling it. Cooley's better than what was in St. Louis, so he'll get the ball more, but he's neither as good as Gonzalez as a receiver, nor were the KC WR's as good as this receiving corps in Washington, so a lot more passes will go to the WR's in Washington IMHO. Moss is the clear #1 option there, but I think we'll see numbers out of Lloyd and especially Randle El that we've never seen from them before.Isn't this more of a cause/effect thing?I have a supremely talented 250 lb guy playing TE and a bunch of meh guys on the outside...So I throw to my super talented guy.he'll have more chances for longer tds , since he'll face more 1-on-1 coverage.he should be open even MORE, and is STILL the #1 wr on the team.I think his numbers should take a hit, though he'll still be solid. Last year there was NO ONE playing WR other than Moss, so the ball was forced his way. Now, it should be spread out a bit more, which may open things up for Moss in coverage, but the number of balls thrown his way will decrease IMO.
I'd say the biggest worry for Moss owners is going to come from Cooley, because Al Saunders loves to utilize the TE (Gonzalez)..you'll see alot of action going his way..I wouldn't doubt that Cooley winds up with 80 or 90 catches in 2006..so what that'll do to Moss' numbers remains to be seen..perhaps the yardage and reception totals drop a bit, but he should see a big rise in TD's b/c he'll only be in single coverages...
Unless Saunders has been doing this his whole career (not sure) this is almost like saying Pat Riley likes feeding the ball into his center (Kareem, Ewing, Shaq) and would continue doing so if he had Eddy Grant at the 5.
Al Saunders only called the plays for KC. Before that he was either WR or QB coach for St. Louis (I don't recall witch). In St. Louis they did not utilize the TE much at all while Saunders was here. All the short, underneath stuff went to Faulk. Sure, he utilized the TE in KC because Gonzo is a future HOFer. I love Riley feeding his center comment.....Fantastic analogy....Unless Saunders has been doing this his whole career (not sure) this is almost like saying Pat Riley likes feeding the ball into his center (Kareem, Ewing, Shaq) and would continue doing so if he had Eddy Grant at the 5.
So I guess I ask again. Did we undervalue S. Moss this year??Was S. Moss underrated this year????I was actually mad when he fell to me as the next best WR on the board and I snagged him up and was not happy about it.However, after watching tonight and seeing how the Redskins are going out of their way to make sure he touches the ball a ton and let him utilize his play making ability I am really excited. He also just about hung on to the ball in the end zone. With Randel El and Lloyd taking some attention away from him, this guy could be money again all year.He and S. Smith are very similiar players and everyone was very high on Smith after having a career year last year and not as high on Moss after a career year.I think S. Moss produces great value this year as he would have fallen after much of the WR 1's and could very well produce at that elite level like last year again finshing ahead of many of those guys.
Well, if you take the ever-popular amortization approach, then you've got 68/1304/12. That's not all that different than the more moderate #'s that most of us were predicting, although the TD's are a tad higher than what I'd estimated before the year, but not unrealistic.So I guess I ask again. Did we undervalue S. Moss this year??Was S. Moss underrated this year????I was actually mad when he fell to me as the next best WR on the board and I snagged him up and was not happy about it.However, after watching tonight and seeing how the Redskins are going out of their way to make sure he touches the ball a ton and let him utilize his play making ability I am really excited. He also just about hung on to the ball in the end zone. With Randel El and Lloyd taking some attention away from him, this guy could be money again all year.He and S. Smith are very similiar players and everyone was very high on Smith after having a career year last year and not as high on Moss after a career year.I think S. Moss produces great value this year as he would have fallen after much of the WR 1's and could very well produce at that elite level like last year again finshing ahead of many of those guys.