Santana Moss (1 Viewer)

[BlackHole]

I'm really thinking about taking S. Moss out of a flex position. The problem is, this is a week that he should be able to get his against StL. I never should have drafted him (great value where I got him, but I even said then I hate his inconsistency). Having owned this guy before, I know all to well if you chase last weeks stats with him (good or bad), you will get burned. So not starting him because of last week when he has a good match up this week, is pretty much the only thing holding me back from pulling him.

Anyone see the game last week and have an opinion on him?

 

[NCPanthersFan]

He is going in over Bryalon Edwards - non PPR TD Bonus.

 

[Ripleys]

Skins fan here, and starting him in a couple of leagues, but benching him in the majority of my leagues. Zorn has said all the right things this week, he has to get more passes/involved in offense, etc. And the Rams secondary is a great match up...however, last year, Rams D wasn't considered any better, and Santana put up a stinker, 2 for 22 vs the Rams in week 6. Knowing my luck, he'll go off this week, but I'm very skeptical.

 

[southeastjerome]

I'm really thinking about taking S. Moss out of a flex position. The problem is, this is a week that he should be able to get his against StL. I never should have drafted him (great value where I got him, but I even said then I hate his inconsistency). Having owned this guy before, I know all to well if you chase last weeks stats with him (good or bad), you will get burned. So not starting him because of last week when he has a good match up this week, is pretty much the only thing holding me back from pulling him.Anyone see the game last week and have an opinion on him?

They really diidn't look for him much last week. Only 5 targets vs. 9 for ARE and 8 for Cooley. I think they will look to exploit the Rams weaker corners. Corey Webster did a good job against him. During the week Zorn said he thinks he needs to get Moss more involved. I'm thinking 6-70 and maybe a TD.

 

[swampdog]

Just pulled DJackson (below arm strength for Kolb), and started SMoss, it's now or never.

Swamp

 

[BlackHole]

I'm going with the now or never and keeping him in.......hard not to put M. Bush in, but it's PPR and it's now or never

 

[jojoh07]

3 for 35

Im done with you santana , welcome to permanent bench.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

3 for 35 Im done with you santana , welcome to permanent bench.

Moss = feast or famineNext week he'll put up 180/3. It's just the way it is with him. He has 2-4 monster games (depending upon how the offense as a whole is doing) and the rest of his games are like that.

 

[harryhood]

3 for 35 Im done with you santana , welcome to permanent bench.

Moss = feast or famineNext week he'll put up 180/3. It's just the way it is with him. He has 2-4 monster games (depending upon how the offense as a whole is doing) and the rest of his games are like that.

That is the best way to describe him. I learned this two years ago and have never looked back. Too inconsistent for my tastes and Campbell hates to get him the ball successfully. This was the Rams people.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

3 for 35 Im done with you santana , welcome to permanent bench.

Moss = feast or famineNext week he'll put up 180/3. It's just the way it is with him. He has 2-4 monster games (depending upon how the offense as a whole is doing) and the rest of his games are like that.

That is the best way to describe him. I learned this two years ago and have never looked back. Too inconsistent for my tastes and Campbell hates to get him the ball successfully. This was the Rams people.

I wouldn't say Campbell hates to get him the ball at all, but it's just that Moss isn't a true NFL WR1 who is able to make his own opportunities. Defenses can choose to remove him from the passing game, which is exactly what the Giants did. With the (modest) emergence of Kelly and with Randle El's so far successful move to the slot where he belongs, the hope is that defenses will be able to do this less than before, but so far that's not translated to numbers for Moss. Moss is usable as a WR3-4 on your fantasy team given that that hopefully is a spot where you can afford to weather some bad games before putting up a big one. The trouble is that it's just tough to predict when he's going to have his big games, so trying to bench him versus play him is a real guessing game. He's definitely a guy who's actual value because of this is lower than his end-of-year WR ranking.

 

[howo5]

I think the Shark move with Santana is to get him for nothing at this point in the season and start him when you think he'll have one of his blowup games. I'd say the 2 games against Dallas, next week against DET and NO and KC games would be good candidates. He'll be a solid WR2 with upside for those 5 games and then unstartable for the rest of the year.

 

[DoubleG]

I think the Shark move with Santana is to get him for nothing at this point in the season and start him when you think he'll have one of his blowup games. I'd say the 2 games against Dallas, next week against DET and NO and KC games would be good candidates. He'll be a solid WR2 with upside for those 5 games and then unstartable for the rest of the year.

The problem is, there has never been rhyme or reason to his "blowup games". He has had some against great defenses, and some against poor defenses. He has had some when he has had tough matchups and laid an egg when he has had otherwise "easy" matchups. So guessing when the big game is going to come is just that...guessing.Someone said he is "feast or famine" - unfortunately, lately he has been more famine than feast.

 

[Maroney=Sped]

I think the Shark move with Santana is to get him for nothing at this point in the season and start him when you think he'll have one of his blowup games. I'd say the 2 games against Dallas, next week against DET and NO and KC games would be good candidates. He'll be a solid WR2 with upside for those 5 games and then unstartable for the rest of the year.

The problem is, there has never been rhyme or reason to his "blowup games". He has had some against great defenses, and some against poor defenses. He has had some when he has had tough matchups and laid an egg when he has had otherwise "easy" matchups. So guessing when the big game is going to come is just that...guessing.Someone said he is "feast or famine" - unfortunately, lately he has been more famine than feast.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Just pulled DJackson (below arm strength for Kolb), and started SMoss, it's now or never. Swamp

Ow.

 

[Steelers4Life]

I have him on the bench of one of my dynasty teams, and to me he's a bye-week filler or emergency starter who you know will end up with solid overall numbers at the end of the year.

You just have to hope that the week you need him is the same week that he has one of his 150 yard, 2 TD games.

 

[howo5]

I think he's been in the league long enough to where his feast games are fairly predictable. It seems like there's teams he fares well against and some he doesn't. If I have the time later I'll do some analysis and see if we can find some good correlation here. I'll be the first to admit that his famine games are really really worthless.

 

[harryhood]

I think the Shark move with Santana is to get him for nothing at this point in the season and start him when you think he'll have one of his blowup games. I'd say the 2 games against Dallas, next week against DET and NO and KC games would be good candidates. He'll be a solid WR2 with upside for those 5 games and then unstartable for the rest of the year.

The problem is, there has never been rhyme or reason to his "blowup games". He has had some against great defenses, and some against poor defenses. He has had some when he has had tough matchups and laid an egg when he has had otherwise "easy" matchups. So guessing when the big game is going to come is just that...guessing.Someone said he is "feast or famine" - unfortunately, lately he has been more famine than feast.

and he is still viewed as his teams #1 WR. Not many people will be selling him for "nothing"

 

[Maroney=Sped]

I think the Shark move with Santana is to get him for nothing at this point in the season and start him when you think he'll have one of his blowup games. I'd say the 2 games against Dallas, next week against DET and NO and KC games would be good candidates. He'll be a solid WR2 with upside for those 5 games and then unstartable for the rest of the year.

The problem is, there has never been rhyme or reason to his "blowup games". He has had some against great defenses, and some against poor defenses. He has had some when he has had tough matchups and laid an egg when he has had otherwise "easy" matchups. So guessing when the big game is going to come is just that...guessing.Someone said he is "feast or famine" - unfortunately, lately he has been more famine than feast.

and he is still viewed as his teams #1 WR. Not many people will be selling him for "nothing"

I'm not so sure about that. That WR corps is at best a work in progress and at worst one of the worst in the league, depending upon how you want to look at it. I think a lot of Moss owners are looking to dump him right now given the general skepticism about the Redskins passing game.

 

[gump]

Tough to figure out what to do with him.

In a 10-man league with averages benches, you could likely Drop him for a player like Steve Smith (NYG) or Laurent Robinson. These guys may be more consistent, but hard to believe they have the 1-game potential of Moss.

So I guess it depends on your roster. Do you need a guy who you can sit most of the time, or do you need a guy you can rely on for consistency?

 

[Maroney=Sped]

Tough to figure out what to do with him.In a 10-man league with averages benches, you could likely Drop him for a player like Steve Smith (NYG) or Laurent Robinson. These guys may be more consistent, but hard to believe they have the 1-game potential of Moss.So I guess it depends on your roster. Do you need a guy who you can sit most of the time, or do you need a guy you can rely on for consistency?

It's not that tough to figure out:

I have him on the bench of one of my dynasty teams, and to me he's a bye-week filler or emergency starter who you know will end up with solid overall numbers at the end of the year. You just have to hope that the week you need him is the same week that he has one of his 150 yard, 2 TD games.

 

[Wooderson]

I droped him on Sunday and no has picked him up. The guy stinks.

 

[kingcoin1]

Anyone giving him a shot vs Detroit? If he stinks it up 3 weeks in a row, clearly he's done. Many of you giving up on him? Only two games...

 

[jon_mx]

The problem is, there has never been rhyme or reason to his "blowup games".

Well, I disagree. Everytime he plays against me, he blows up. Unfortunately, I drafted him this year, so the prospects of him blowing up are real slim until I cut him.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Anyone giving him a shot vs Detroit? If he stinks it up 3 weeks in a row, clearly he's done. Many of you giving up on him? Only two games...

Such a hard choice for me, as it's him against Manningham.On one hand, do I bank on the fact that he will do more with his 5-6 targets against DET than he did against the Giants and Rams? He had a great matchup on paper last week, but despite being weak against the pass, the Rams still found a way to take Moss out of the game. A great matchup on paper just doesn't seem to be enough, especially with two weeks worth of film for the Lions to watch on how to effectively take Moss out of the game.I'm more inclined to start Manningham -- even if he doesn't see 13 targets, Tampa Bay's safeties have had trouble in coverage last few weeks, and it just seems safer to go with the hot hand.But have a feeling I'll likely roll with Moss, as if he can't get 60+ and a touch in this game, he officially becomes too risky a start even in games where the matchup is favorable.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

I may have to play this spare this weekend. ####in' Welker.

 

[CentralPA]

I'm giving him one more week. I picked up Sims-Walker and if by some miracle Edelman hasn't been picked up i'll grab him too.

 

[kingcoin1]

Thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!!

10 catches + 178 rec yards + 1 TD

 

[gump]

Beautiful. Finally timed his blow up.