Santonio Holmes draft stock/value (1 Viewer)

[Chachi]

Goes from a 6-7th round pick in drafts to a 3rd round pick.

In the last 10 minutes I have received 3 offers from different teams in my dynasty league. Sell high or hold?

 

[mlball77]

Funny, before tonight I thought he was a decent buy low guy... now he might actually be a sell high. Big game on the biggest stage changes perception.

 

[Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub]

Goes from a 6-7th round pick in drafts to a 3rd round pick. In the last 10 minutes I have received 3 offers from different teams in my dynasty league. Sell high or hold?

I'll let someone else take him with their 3rd and laugh.

 

[Chachi]

Goes from a 6-7th round pick in drafts to a 3rd round pick. In the last 10 minutes I have received 3 offers from different teams in my dynasty league. Sell high or hold?

I'll let someone else take him with their 3rd and laugh.

To each his own. By the way your avatar is offensive.

 

[thriftyrocker]

If you can get 3rd round value for him it's a sell high.

 

[Novice2]

Goes from a 6-7th round pick in drafts to a 3rd round pick. In the last 10 minutes I have received 3 offers from different teams in my dynasty league. Sell high or hold?

I'll let someone else take him with their 3rd and laugh.

To each his own. By the way your avatar is offensive.

D bro's or d ho's?

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Sell high. He's great, but the Steelers don't throw enough to put him in the Fitz/Andre/Calvin/Moss level.

 

[Loopdog]

I agree. I think Santonio is one of the more dangerous guys in the NFL, especially after the catch. That said, the Steelers don't give him enough chances to be an elite WR. Maybe next year they will, but with their tradition of running the football, I doubt it.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

How did his value go up tonight? Because he had 1 long catch early on basically a screen pass, another long pass in the 4th because the defense botched the play, and then finally had one superb TD catch that will never be repeated again?

I'd sell high if he's anywhere near worth a 3rd rounder.

 

[Banger]

It all depends on Ward, he's still their goto wr.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

hey guys let's keep this on topic ... please.

 

[Kevrunner]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

 

[Chachi]

hey guys let's keep this on topic ... please.

Ok, in compliance.

 

[Chachi]

The thing where I think Holmes value may just shoot up is Big Ben looked to Holmes twice in the clutch, not Hines Ward.

 

[broncofan13000]

I think Holmes has re-cemented himself as a top 15 dynasty WR, which is definately worth a 3rd round pick (i see him going in the 4th round in initial dynasty drafts right now)...He's been a buy-low for me for awhile, but he's shown that he will be Ben's guy in the future. He is money.

 

[AllVolUT]

I too was coming into the game thinking Holmes would be a good buy low heading into the '09 season. Now, I'm not quite sure what to think. He might be worth a good sell right now in a dynasty league.

I think a lot of this depends on the severity of Ward's leg. If reports surface that Hines felt terrible, then its understandable that he may have been phased out of the game. If not, then Big Ben might have found his new favorite go-to-guy. I'll take a wait and see approach.

 

[bentley]

Guy underperformed his draft position all year but had a decent Super Bowl. I'd be selling as quickly as possible if I was in a dynasty league.

 

[EBF]

He's a good player. Terry Glenn version 2.0.

I don't think tonight should drastically alter your opinion of his value though.

 

[Avery]

Guy underperformed his draft position all year but had a decent Super Bowl. I'd be selling as quickly as possible if I was in a dynasty league.

Dude has 9 catches for 131 yards and 2 more long gainers that I remember called back on penalty. That's more than a "decent" game.Oh, and I traded for him in dynasty at about noon today! I know, no one cares about my team but

 

[Holland Freeze]

How did his value go up tonight? Because he had 1 long catch early on basically a screen pass, another long pass in the 4th because the defense botched the play, and then finally had one superb TD catch that will never be repeated again?I'd sell high if he's anywhere near worth a 3rd rounder.

He was able to come through with 9 receptions when Ward appeared unable to be more than a diversion. I love Ward and will never believe he was 100% for today and Pittsburgh needed Holmes to step up and that is what he did.

 

[Holland Freeze]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

 

[PranksterJD]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

I thought this for a while as well. Until he #####-slapped the Cardinal in the penalty that could have gotten him ejected. If a defender had a prayer of getting it, he lost it then.

 

[Avery]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

They both played great games and were worthy of consideration. I think it's arguable either way and a tie generally goes to the offensive player.Back to the topic, I don't understand how Holmes stepping up with a huge game in the Superbowl wouldn't and shouldn't raise his value, as some have suggested it shouldn't.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

How did his value go up tonight? Because he had 1 long catch early on basically a screen pass, another long pass in the 4th because the defense botched the play, and then finally had one superb TD catch that will never be repeated again?I'd sell high if he's anywhere near worth a 3rd rounder.

He was able to come through with 9 receptions when Ward appeared unable to be more than a diversion. I love Ward and will never believe he was 100% for today and Pittsburgh needed Holmes to step up and that is what he did.

That's the whole point. He had 9 receptions - because Ward was playing on one leg. I really don't see how this game should dramatically change anyone's perception of Holmes - or Ward.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

Thanks, this is helpful for evaluating Holmes' future value.

 

[Kevrunner]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

They both played great games and were worthy of consideration. I think it's arguable either way and a tie generally goes to the offensive player.Back to the topic, I don't understand how Holmes stepping up with a huge game in the Superbowl wouldn't and shouldn't raise his value, as some have suggested it shouldn't.

I neglected to answser the OP question regarding Holmes value in my earlier post. But, I think without question Holmes value has taken an upturn after today's game. Probably in the top 15 WR dynasty wise I would say, not top 10, but not too far off.

 

[Avery]

How did his value go up tonight? Because he had 1 long catch early on basically a screen pass, another long pass in the 4th because the defense botched the play, and then finally had one superb TD catch that will never be repeated again?

I'd sell high if he's anywhere near worth a 3rd rounder.

He was able to come through with 9 receptions when Ward appeared unable to be more than a diversion. I love Ward and will never believe he was 100% for today and Pittsburgh needed Holmes to step up and that is what he did.

That's the whole point. He had 9 receptions - because Ward was playing on one leg. I really don't see how this game should dramatically change anyone's perception of Holmes - or Ward.

How about because Ward's getting older and Santonio's getting better after three years in the league?We're talking dynasty here and skills aren't static they progress and digress across a career.

Additionally, it shouldn't be ignored that Holmes has definitely earned Ben's trust after tonight. An important point to remember as Ben scrambles around with his schoolyard style of play looking for someone to throw to.

 

[bentley]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

They both played great games and were worthy of consideration. I think it's arguable either way and a tie generally goes to the offensive player.Back to the topic, I don't understand how Holmes stepping up with a huge game in the Superbowl wouldn't and shouldn't raise his value, as some have suggested it shouldn't.

Why should it? Was Larry Brown better after winning a Super Bowl MVP? Doug Williams? Dexter Jackson? Desmond Howard? Heck, even Peyton Manning had fewer fantasy points in each of the two years since he won the SB MVP.

 

[Avery]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

They both played great games and were worthy of consideration. I think it's arguable either way and a tie generally goes to the offensive player.Back to the topic, I don't understand how Holmes stepping up with a huge game in the Superbowl wouldn't and shouldn't raise his value, as some have suggested it shouldn't.

Why should it? Was Larry Brown better after winning a Super Bowl MVP? Doug Williams? Dexter Jackson? Desmond Howard? Heck, even Peyton Manning had fewer fantasy points in each of the two years since he won the SB MVP.

See post above.

 

[bentley]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

They both played great games and were worthy of consideration. I think it's arguable either way and a tie generally goes to the offensive player.Back to the topic, I don't understand how Holmes stepping up with a huge game in the Superbowl wouldn't and shouldn't raise his value, as some have suggested it shouldn't.

Why should it? Was Larry Brown better after winning a Super Bowl MVP? Doug Williams? Dexter Jackson? Desmond Howard? Heck, even Peyton Manning had fewer fantasy points in each of the two years since he won the SB MVP.

See post above.

Yeah, the Super Bowl part of your argument is BS.If you want to say he's a player on the rise because he's younger and Ward has showed signs of decline throughout the year, that's one thing. But to say that winning the Super Bowl MVP magically makes a player better when there's absolutely zero evidence of that happening over the last fifteen years is a foolish argument.

 

[Holland Freeze]

How did his value go up tonight? Because he had 1 long catch early on basically a screen pass, another long pass in the 4th because the defense botched the play, and then finally had one superb TD catch that will never be repeated again?I'd sell high if he's anywhere near worth a 3rd rounder.

He was able to come through with 9 receptions when Ward appeared unable to be more than a diversion. I love Ward and will never believe he was 100% for today and Pittsburgh needed Holmes to step up and that is what he did.

That's the whole point. He had 9 receptions - because Ward was playing on one leg. I really don't see how this game should dramatically change anyone's perception of Holmes - or Ward.

I never said there should be "dramatic" change but I don't see why it is hard to see that Holmes proved he is able and willing to step up if needed and can be relied upon.

 

[Holland Freeze]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception

2. The return

3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him

4. The tackles

Thanks, this is helpful for evaluating Holmes' future value.

Much like your response? Get over yourself and allow conversations to proceed w/o turning into the thread title police

 

[Avery]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

They both played great games and were worthy of consideration. I think it's arguable either way and a tie generally goes to the offensive player.Back to the topic, I don't understand how Holmes stepping up with a huge game in the Superbowl wouldn't and shouldn't raise his value, as some have suggested it shouldn't.

Why should it? Was Larry Brown better after winning a Super Bowl MVP? Doug Williams? Dexter Jackson? Desmond Howard? Heck, even Peyton Manning had fewer fantasy points in each of the two years since he won the SB MVP.

See post above.

Yeah, the Super Bowl part of your argument is BS.If you want to say he's a player on the rise because he's younger and Ward has showed signs of decline throughout the year, that's one thing. But to say that winning the Super Bowl MVP magically makes a player better when there's absolutely zero evidence of that happening over the last fifteen years is a foolish argument.

I actually didn't even mention the MVP but you seem to be focusing on it for some reason. I do think, however, that a player coming up big in a big game, especially a young up and coming player, is a good sign for that players future. Shows he can handle the pressure and play well against a team that is one of the best in the league.It could well be fool's gold, and Holmes could digress next year but I can not think of a better way of helping your value then ending the season with your best performance of the year.

 

[ang12]

Absolutely sell high. Way too inconsistent to rely on as a top WR.

 

[bentley]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

They both played great games and were worthy of consideration. I think it's arguable either way and a tie generally goes to the offensive player.Back to the topic, I don't understand how Holmes stepping up with a huge game in the Superbowl wouldn't and shouldn't raise his value, as some have suggested it shouldn't.

Why should it? Was Larry Brown better after winning a Super Bowl MVP? Doug Williams? Dexter Jackson? Desmond Howard? Heck, even Peyton Manning had fewer fantasy points in each of the two years since he won the SB MVP.

See post above.

Yeah, the Super Bowl part of your argument is BS.If you want to say he's a player on the rise because he's younger and Ward has showed signs of decline throughout the year, that's one thing. But to say that winning the Super Bowl MVP magically makes a player better when there's absolutely zero evidence of that happening over the last fifteen years is a foolish argument.

I actually didn't even mention the MVP but you seem to be focusing on it for some reason. I do think, however, that a player coming up big in a big game, especially a young up and coming player, is a good sign for that players future. Shows he can handle the pressure and play well against a team that is one of the best in the league.It could well be fool's gold, and Holmes could digress next year but I can not think of a better way of helping your value then ending the season with your best performance of the year.

Well, I disagree. And I'm pretty sure the numbers are on my side.

 

[Holland Freeze]

How did his value go up tonight? Because he had 1 long catch early on basically a screen pass, another long pass in the 4th because the defense botched the play, and then finally had one superb TD catch that will never be repeated again?

I'd sell high if he's anywhere near worth a 3rd rounder.

He was able to come through with 9 receptions when Ward appeared unable to be more than a diversion. I love Ward and will never believe he was 100% for today and Pittsburgh needed Holmes to step up and that is what he did.

That's the whole point. He had 9 receptions - because Ward was playing on one leg. I really don't see how this game should dramatically change anyone's perception of Holmes - or Ward.

How about because Ward's getting older and Santonio's getting better after three years in the league?We're talking dynasty here and skills aren't static they progress and digress across a career.

Additionally, it shouldn't be ignored that Holmes has definitely earned Ben's trust after tonight. An important point to remember as Ben scrambles around with his schoolyard style of play looking for someone to throw to.

Because of that trust I would expect Holmes to be the primary target more regularly now.

 

[Avery]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

They both played great games and were worthy of consideration. I think it's arguable either way and a tie generally goes to the offensive player.Back to the topic, I don't understand how Holmes stepping up with a huge game in the Superbowl wouldn't and shouldn't raise his value, as some have suggested it shouldn't.

Why should it? Was Larry Brown better after winning a Super Bowl MVP? Doug Williams? Dexter Jackson? Desmond Howard? Heck, even Peyton Manning had fewer fantasy points in each of the two years since he won the SB MVP.

See post above.

Yeah, the Super Bowl part of your argument is BS.If you want to say he's a player on the rise because he's younger and Ward has showed signs of decline throughout the year, that's one thing. But to say that winning the Super Bowl MVP magically makes a player better when there's absolutely zero evidence of that happening over the last fifteen years is a foolish argument.

I actually didn't even mention the MVP but you seem to be focusing on it for some reason. I do think, however, that a player coming up big in a big game, especially a young up and coming player, is a good sign for that players future. Shows he can handle the pressure and play well against a team that is one of the best in the league.It could well be fool's gold, and Holmes could digress next year but I can not think of a better way of helping your value then ending the season with your best performance of the year.

Well, I disagree. And I'm pretty sure the numbers are on my side.

The number of what? ... or are you still focused on the MVP thing that haven't addressed and don't really see as the issue here either way.

 

[bentley]

Regarding Santonio's winning TD, that was an awesome play, much harder I think then the pass that went between his hands prior that would have been probably the winning TD also. I thought that was a catchable ball, only thing that I saw that might have given Holmes trouble was the height that he obtain on the play, and that might have messed up his timing of the ball. He deserved MVP, what a great game he played!

Harrison deserved the MVP 1. The interception2. The return3. The repeated penalties on Ari's OL trying to stop him4. The tackles

They both played great games and were worthy of consideration. I think it's arguable either way and a tie generally goes to the offensive player.Back to the topic, I don't understand how Holmes stepping up with a huge game in the Superbowl wouldn't and shouldn't raise his value, as some have suggested it shouldn't.

Why should it? Was Larry Brown better after winning a Super Bowl MVP? Doug Williams? Dexter Jackson? Desmond Howard? Heck, even Peyton Manning had fewer fantasy points in each of the two years since he won the SB MVP.

See post above.

Yeah, the Super Bowl part of your argument is BS.If you want to say he's a player on the rise because he's younger and Ward has showed signs of decline throughout the year, that's one thing. But to say that winning the Super Bowl MVP magically makes a player better when there's absolutely zero evidence of that happening over the last fifteen years is a foolish argument.

I actually didn't even mention the MVP but you seem to be focusing on it for some reason. I do think, however, that a player coming up big in a big game, especially a young up and coming player, is a good sign for that players future. Shows he can handle the pressure and play well against a team that is one of the best in the league.It could well be fool's gold, and Holmes could digress next year but I can not think of a better way of helping your value then ending the season with your best performance of the year.

Well, I disagree. And I'm pretty sure the numbers are on my side.

The number of what? ... or are you still focused on the MVP thing that haven't addressed and don't really see as the issue here either way.

Find some other way to define a great performance in a Super Bowl and then see if it had any effect if MVP doesn't work for you. He may be better than the disappointment he was this year because he learns the game more but tonight's performance won't affect his on field performance one bit next year. On second thought, you must be right because David Tyree was fantastic this year.

 

[Avery]

Find some other way to define a great performance in a Super Bowl and then see if it had any effect if MVP doesn't work for you. He may be better than the disappointment he was this year because he learns the game more but tonight's performance won't affect his on field performance one bit next year. On second thought, you must be right because David Tyree was fantastic this year.

Terrible and nonsensical analogy.Again, you may be right and he might do squat in the future, but what I see is a young 1st round pick who the Steelers traded up to get play great in a big game.

I also see the current WR1 on the team is 33 years old and the young QB is just coming into his own.

This looks like a good set of circumstances that make me very optimistic about his future but feel free to simplify that set of circumstances into a comparison with other Superbowl MVPs or one great play by a career special teamer.

 

[Mimo]

Reading this thread got me to thinking about that other WR who won the Super Bowl MVP. I remember folks thinking he would reach Top 15 dynasty status after that great performance.

Ladies and Gentleman I present.................Deion Branch

If I had Santonio I would SELL, SELL, SELL

 

[fruity pebbles]

Very good WR. One of the best in the open field imo. That said, doesnt get enough receptions for my liking. A lot of 3-4 catch games. Another player would i thought increased his value a bit was Heath Miller in tight end heavy leagues. Without Ward, he was Ben's 2nd favorite target. 5 catches for 60 ayrds is a good total for a tight end. Even more so was the two near TDs and the third look inside the 10.

 

[the 'boys]

so mad, cut him after the season thinking i wouldnt keep him. he could have gotten me a few draft picks.

 

[the 'boys]

so mad, cut him after the season thinking i wouldnt keep him. he could have gotten me a few draft picks.

 

[King of the Wolfies]

Deion Branch was the first thing that came to my mind too.

 

[JPeso]

Deion Branch was the first thing that came to my mind too.

Holmes is far better than Branch. He was for sure a buy low guy before the playoffs. He didn't get the ball near enough this season, partly due to gameplan, but more importantly due to the fact that Ben had zero time to throw. The playoffs were the first time the Steelers didn't primarily send Holmes deep, and it paid off. Let this kid get the ball in space some. If corners are not going to let him beat them deep, and give him a large cushion, then give him the ball right away and let him make plays. I had planned on grabbing him in the 4th as a "steal" this offseason, but looks like I will have to now spend a 3rd to lock him up.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Deion Branch was the first thing that came to my mind too.

Holmes is far better than Branch. He was for sure a buy low guy before the playoffs. He didn't get the ball near enough this season, partly due to gameplan, but more importantly due to the fact that Ben had zero time to throw. The playoffs were the first time the Steelers didn't primarily send Holmes deep, and it paid off. Let this kid get the ball in space some. If corners are not going to let him beat them deep, and give him a large cushion, then give him the ball right away and let him make plays. I had planned on grabbing him in the 4th as a "steal" this offseason, but looks like I will have to now spend a 3rd to lock him up.

Oh no you didn't. Show me ANY statistics that show Holmes has equalled Branch's production. He hasn't. He has more potential than Branch ever had, but yesterday's game was a breakout performance from someone who has teetered on underperforming since he was drafted. Holmes will pull a Branch and follow the money to another (unsuspecting) team within two years.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Deion Branch was the first thing that came to my mind too.

Holmes is far better than Branch. He was for sure a buy low guy before the playoffs. He didn't get the ball near enough this season, partly due to gameplan, but more importantly due to the fact that Ben had zero time to throw. The playoffs were the first time the Steelers didn't primarily send Holmes deep, and it paid off. Let this kid get the ball in space some. If corners are not going to let him beat them deep, and give him a large cushion, then give him the ball right away and let him make plays. I had planned on grabbing him in the 4th as a "steal" this offseason, but looks like I will have to now spend a 3rd to lock him up.

Oh no you didn't. Show me ANY statistics that show Holmes has equalled Branch's production. He hasn't. He has more potential than Branch ever had, but yesterday's game was a breakout performance from someone who has teetered on underperforming since he was drafted. Holmes will pull a Branch and follow the money to another (unsuspecting) team within two years.

Not sure its his fault though. Not in the Steelers gameplan to get him the ball that much. Ward was hobbled so both he and Miller saw increased looks. Still.......he has some of the sickest open field moves in the NFL.

 

[JPeso]

Deion Branch was the first thing that came to my mind too.

Holmes is far better than Branch. He was for sure a buy low guy before the playoffs. He didn't get the ball near enough this season, partly due to gameplan, but more importantly due to the fact that Ben had zero time to throw. The playoffs were the first time the Steelers didn't primarily send Holmes deep, and it paid off. Let this kid get the ball in space some. If corners are not going to let him beat them deep, and give him a large cushion, then give him the ball right away and let him make plays. I had planned on grabbing him in the 4th as a "steal" this offseason, but looks like I will have to now spend a 3rd to lock him up.

Oh no you didn't. Show me ANY statistics that show Holmes has equalled Branch's production. He hasn't. He has more potential than Branch ever had, but yesterday's game was a breakout performance from someone who has teetered on underperforming since he was drafted. Holmes will pull a Branch and follow the money to another (unsuspecting) team within two years.

Not sure its his fault though. Not in the Steelers gameplan to get him the ball that much. Ward was hobbled so both he and Miller saw increased looks. Still.......he has some of the sickest open field moves in the NFL.

This is not about past stats. Branch never eclipsed 1,000 in one season. I think we will see Holmes eclipse this mark a number of years. He is a budding star in this league, and this was far from a fluky performance. If you don't agree, that's fine, but Branch is nowhere near the player that Holmes is now, and will become.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Goes from a 6-7th round pick in drafts to a 3rd round pick. In the last 10 minutes I have received 3 offers from different teams in my dynasty league. Sell high or hold?

I'll let someone else take him with their 3rd and laugh.

To each his own. By the way your avatar is offensive.

Depending on what's being offered, I'd absolutely consider selling high. Get while the getting's good imo.By the way, your avatar offends me.

 

[Power Monster]

Drafted him in two redrafts this year and he was frustrating until the end of the regular NFL season when he was making some crazy catches. His stock has gone up after his performance in SB 43 but aside from the Steeler defense it is hard to get consistency from position players on this team in terms of FF. With that said- that game winning catch was just AWESOME. The reason why I was so impressed was the play before it Holmes let it slip between his hands. Then they ran the play (or an equivalent play) to the opposite side of the end zone and he was just money! Big time players make big time plays in big time games! Stock is going up!