Santonio Holmes (If Cut where would be a good fit) I know he's a b (1 Viewer)

[jacobo_moses]

Hey guys just took Santonio Holmes as my WR6 in a 16 team Dynasty startup. I think the writing is on the wall for him to be released. I've always thought that was a bad fit in NY with Holmes anyway. Where would be a good fit for him? I think CAR, SF or someplace like that would work. What do you guys think? Yes I know he is a bonehead and was injured a lot this year. But still I think on the right team he can be a WR3 for most fantasy teams if he gets his crap together.

 

[lod01]

Got him on my team due to injury. Will be cutting him in favor of Danario Alexander after Sunday's games. That's how little value I think he has.

 

[TLEF316]

He doesn't give a crap and drops key passes. I've never hated a member of any time I root for as much as I hate holmes

 

[jacobo_moses]

Wow that's crazy that people are that low on him. I think he can still be a valuable WR3 on the right team. Sigmund Bloom I think would agree. Just saying is all.

 

[jbz]

Redskins could use him sadly

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Anywhere Holmes actually wants to play he'd be a huge asset. Guy is a baller when motivated and healthy.

 

[menobrown]

. Rex Ryan stuck his neck out for Holmes and clearly Ryan was fighting for his job this year and Holmes just dogged it with phantom injuries anyway.

How do you know?

It actually makes no sense for him to dog it as he's known all year he was playing for new contract in 2014.

It's a lot more plausible to me that he's older player who underwent a major operation which impacted his ability to so much as run. Which means he would have struggled to maintain proper conditioning which when combined with his advancing age is basically a formula for a year filled with lots of nagging injuries.

Get him healthy with a full off season of conditioning and put him on a team with a legit QB and I think he's got 1-2 solid years left.

 

[TLEF316]

. Rex Ryan stuck his neck out for Holmes and clearly Ryan was fighting for his job this year and Holmes just dogged it with phantom injuries anyway.

How do you know?

It actually makes no sense for him to dog it as he's known all year he was playing for new contract in 2014.

It's a lot more plausible to me that he's older player who underwent a major operation which impacted his ability to so much as run. Which means he would have struggled to maintain proper conditioning which when combined with his advancing age is basically a formula for a year filled with lots of nagging injuries.

Get him healthy with a full off season of conditioning and put him on a team with a legit QB and I think he's got 1-2 solid years left.

The lisfranc was a major injury. I can't dispute that. But the guy doesn't care. Holmes is all about Holmes. The very fact that he just has to do his little first down celebration every freaking time he catches the ball is proof of that.

If he was talented enough to be a #1, maybe you deal with that. But he isn't that kind of talent, at least not anymore. He's had ONE 1,000 yard season. ONE season with more than 55 catches. He's never had more than 8 TD's. And when next season starts, he'll be on the wrong side of 30.

The absolute best case scenario (and honestly, I think this is a pipe-dream. The guy can't even catch the ball anymore) is that he gets a 1 year deal for next year does something like 70-800-7 and tricks someone into giving him a 2 or 3 year contract after that. But the team that does that is destined to regret it. The guy is a selfish ##### with rapidly declining skills and a big mouth.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Seattle, St Louis, or Arizona

 

[EBF]

Anywhere Holmes actually wants to play he'd be a huge asset. Guy is a baller when motivated and healthy.

Yea, I tend to agree with this. Holmes has been a very frustrating player to own because for the last several years his production has not matched up with his ability, but don't let that fool you into thinking that he can't play. He is still in his prime and if he stays healthy and motivated he can be a 1000+ yard guy again. Remember Terry Glenn and Joey Galloway? Two other guys with big time talent who came onto the scene and did well early in their careers before suffering a LONG draught. Holmes doesn't seem to have Galloway's legendary work ethic and I don't expect him to play quite that long, but he can be the next Glenn easily. Just needs to avoid injuries and play with desire.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

I think he can be a decent WR2/3 somewhere. The leash is short however. He won't have a contract to fall back on.

Could be replacement option for the likes of Golden Tate/Andre Roberts/Nicks should they move on. Given he spent 3 years with Arians in Pittsburgh, seems like a possibility as a cheap WR3 in Arizona. Imagine he'll look for a quicker opportunity to start elsewhere however. Barring injury, he's not jumping Fitz or Floyd (unless injury/trade occurs)

 

[FUBAR]

He seems to need someone to motivate him. Best case imo is Carolina.

 

[FF Ninja]

First of all, c'mon man, do a search. It's not that hard. We don't need a new thread every time somebody drafts a guy in a startup. Also, nobody cares about your team so no point in using that to frame the topic. This thread has some very recent discussion about Holmes: Santonio Holmes

Anywhere Holmes actually wants to play he'd be a huge asset. Guy is a baller when motivated and healthy.

Yea, I tend to agree with this. Holmes has been a very frustrating player to own because for the last several years his production has not matched up with his ability, but don't let that fool you into thinking that he can't play. He is still in his prime and if he stays healthy and motivated he can be a 1000+ yard guy again. Remember Terry Glenn and Joey Galloway? Two other guys with big time talent who came onto the scene and did well early in their careers before suffering a LONG draught. Holmes doesn't seem to have Galloway's legendary work ethic and I don't expect him to play quite that long, but he can be the next Glenn easily. Just needs to avoid injuries and play with desire.

As I mentioned in the other Holmes thread, I have no ties to this guy and had low expectations. Lisfranc injuries are no joke and he skipped all of training camp IIRC. However, I came away impressed after watching him play this year. Obviously his situation is terrible - being on a team coached by Rex Ryan and quarterbacked by Geno Smith, but he didn't look hindered by injury or out of shape.

Saying a wide receiver is on the wrong side of 30 is like saying a RB is on the wrong side of 26. Pretty pointless.

So, like the two guys above, I think he could be very fantasy relevant next year if he goes to the right situation. I can't accurately predict the chances of that happening, but if I feel like he's in the right place then I'll be snagging him late in a lot of leagues next year.

Here is my list of locations, in no particular order, that I think would work well for him:

New England - he would make a great complementary player to Amendola (or Edelman while Amendola is hurt).

Baltimore - Torrey just isn't an NFL WR1. I think Holmes would be really good here.

Indianapolis - Just like above, Hilton isn't an NFL WR1. Another really good fit.

San Diego - this team is starving for WRs. Rivers has made his WRs look better than they are. I think he'd make a great tandem with Allen.

Dallas - I think Miles is gone and not sure Terrance is the answer. He'd make a great WR2 here.

NYG - they'll probably roll with Randle, but I'd be somewhat interested if Holmes landed here.

Detroit - I just don't like Stafford that much and I think Burleson is underrated, but if Holmes became the WR2 here, I'd have to pay attention.

Carolina - love Steve Smith, but he's getting old for a speed guy and they need a legit WR opposite him. Not sure he'd be a great fantasy play here, though.

Seattle - he's better than Tate and it's always good to have someone ready to be your WR1 if Harvin gets hurt again.

Miami - I saw this mentioned above and I think he'd be better than Hartline, but they just signed Hartline to an extension so it's not going to happen. They need an offensive line first.

 

[jacobo_moses]

Thanks FF Ninja. I can see some of those working out for him to have WR3 value.