Someone should remind this guy that the TOP was largely due to the Steelers having a 15 second TD drive and a 43 yard TD pass.And the 57 yard difference in total yardage was gained entirely on their final drive of the game against a prevent defense. Until that drive, the yardage was completely even.
After a game Notre Dame dominated some reporter asked Rockne whether he was concerned his squad let the other team record more first downs than did his. He said no, he was concerned with his team scoring touchdowns, he didn't know first downs were scored, the thought they were recorded, but if in the future the rules changed he would have his boys stop running for the endzone after ten yards so they could score some of those first downs.
You realize that the Steelers as a team ran for 181 yards (in basically the final 3 quarters) and converted 8-15 3rd downs, don't you? And that Roethlisberger's 1st INT was the equivalent of a punt?The scoreboard is the only thing that matters in the end and the Steelers should be a bench mark for teams in the future;
You can get your butts kicked offensively, defensively, on special teams and in the turnover battle yet still win the game.
More whinning. So you are leaving out all the yards called back by questionable penalities?You realize that the Steelers as a team ran for 181 yards (in basically the final 3 quarters) and converted 8-15 3rd downs, don't you? And that Roethlisberger's 1st INT was the equivalent of a punt?The scoreboard is the only thing that matters in the end and the Steelers should be a bench mark for teams in the future;
You can get your butts kicked offensively, defensively, on special teams and in the turnover battle yet still win the game.
And that the entire difference in total yardage was the 57 yards Seattle gained on their final drive even after the Steelers failed to get a 1st down in the 1st quarter?
Neither team played well, and the game was far from dominated by anyone.
Remember, this is the same guy who said the owners were at fault for the "loveboat" episode in Minnesota. You can't expect anything rational.You realize that the Steelers as a team ran for 181 yards (in basically the final 3 quarters) and converted 8-15 3rd downs, don't you? And that Roethlisberger's 1st INT was the equivalent of a punt?The scoreboard is the only thing that matters in the end and the Steelers should be a bench mark for teams in the future;
You can get your butts kicked offensively, defensively, on special teams and in the turnover battle yet still win the game.
And that the entire difference in total yardage was the 57 yards Seattle gained on their final drive even after the Steelers failed to get a 1st down in the 1st quarter?
Neither team played well, and the game was far from dominated by anyone.
This doesn't even make sense.Offensively: I see three offensive tds for the steelers and one for the Hawks. Outside of the first quarter, no, they did not get their butts kicked.The scoreboard is the only thing that matters in the end and the Steelers should be a bench mark for teams in the future;
You can get your butts kicked offensively, defensively, on special teams and in the turnover battle yet still win the game.
The previous poster needs to edit his definition of "butt kicking". Even if you say the Seahawks played a better game, surely you don't believe that they absolutely kicked the steelers butts? If you do, I guess you can make that claim for just about any game in the NFL.maybe the FWP TD should count for 7 first downs, and the Hines Ward TD count for 5 more... how'd that be?
Well you sound like you agree with me. It doesn't matter how someone wins. It doesn't matter if a team won because they cheated, used steroids, took cheap shots, used stickum, tear-away jerseys, sprayed a slick substance on their OL's jerseys, or even something far more mild like getting a boatload of questionable ref calls to fall in your favor. The NFL is not for whiners. While we all should be admit that people don't always win for the best reasons, in the end, its about who won, and are you hungry enough to do whatever it takes to win?Last time I checked the only stat that matters is the score.
Pittsburgh 21
Seattle 10
Sorry BGP, but to say they won the game BECAUSE of those calls is as ridiculous as someone saying they didn't have an impact on the game.Well you sound like you agree with me. It doesn't matter how someone wins. It doesn't matter if a team won because they cheated, used steroids, took cheap shots, used stickum, tear-away jerseys, sprayed a slick substance on their OL's jerseys, or even something far more mild like getting a boatload of questionable ref calls to fall in your favor. The NFL is not for whiners. While we all should be admit that people don't always win for the best reasons, in the end, its about who won, and are you hungry enough to do whatever it takes to win?Last time I checked the only stat that matters is the score.
Pittsburgh 21
Seattle 10
I'm saying they won because of those calls and that it also doesn't matter because that is the way the NFL is.Sorry BGP, but to say they won the game BECAUSE of those calls is as ridiculous as someone saying they didn't have an impact on the game.Well you sound like you agree with me. It doesn't matter how someone wins. It doesn't matter if a team won because they cheated, used steroids, took cheap shots, used stickum, tear-away jerseys, sprayed a slick substance on their OL's jerseys, or even something far more mild like getting a boatload of questionable ref calls to fall in your favor. The NFL is not for whiners. While we all should be admit that people don't always win for the best reasons, in the end, its about who won, and are you hungry enough to do whatever it takes to win?Last time I checked the only stat that matters is the score.
Pittsburgh 21
Seattle 10
I think it's funny that you think no one will pick up on your thinly veiled attempts to call the Steelers cheaters by saying it doesn't matter how you win.This has to be just KILLING you. Thanks again for the sig.Heck do you realize we practically GLORIFY cheaters in other sports, such as spitball pitchers from days gone by.
Why should we be upset because the Steelers won thanks to getting a lot of ref calls? Doesn't make sense to me.
This quoteI'm saying they won because of those calls and that it also doesn't matter because that is the way the NFL is.Sorry BGP, but to say they won the game BECAUSE of those calls is as ridiculous as someone saying they didn't have an impact on the game.Well you sound like you agree with me. It doesn't matter how someone wins. It doesn't matter if a team won because they cheated, used steroids, took cheap shots, used stickum, tear-away jerseys, sprayed a slick substance on their OL's jerseys, or even something far more mild like getting a boatload of questionable ref calls to fall in your favor. The NFL is not for whiners. While we all should be admit that people don't always win for the best reasons, in the end, its about who won, and are you hungry enough to do whatever it takes to win?Last time I checked the only stat that matters is the score.
Pittsburgh 21
Seattle 10
has nothing to do with your post-game analysis, of course.Edited to correct quote time and date.Seahawks win this game. I think they should win this game easily. In fact, I think they should blow out the Steelers. I won't guarantee that. I think if the Seahawks have trouble with the 3-4 defense of the Steelers, then it turns into a close game. My system pretty much guarantees a Seahawks win tho, and I'll stand by that.
LOL could there possibly be anyone that didn't pick up on that? He's not exactly subtle (as hard as he tries to be).I think it's funny that you think no one will pick up on your thinly veiled attempts to call the Steelers cheaters by saying it doesn't matter how you win.This has to be just KILLING you. Thanks again for the sig.Heck do you realize we practically GLORIFY cheaters in other sports, such as spitball pitchers from days gone by.
Why should we be upset because the Steelers won thanks to getting a lot of ref calls? Doesn't make sense to me.
Well it pretty much guaranteed a win, sure. Didn't happen. But its fair to say that the refs changed the outcome and to stick with my system. Both sides are being children about this super bowl. The honest truth is the refs cost the Seahawks the game but also that is NFL football and deal with it.This quoteI'm saying they won because of those calls and that it also doesn't matter because that is the way the NFL is.Sorry BGP, but to say they won the game BECAUSE of those calls is as ridiculous as someone saying they didn't have an impact on the game.Well you sound like you agree with me. It doesn't matter how someone wins. It doesn't matter if a team won because they cheated, used steroids, took cheap shots, used stickum, tear-away jerseys, sprayed a slick substance on their OL's jerseys, or even something far more mild like getting a boatload of questionable ref calls to fall in your favor. The NFL is not for whiners. While we all should be admit that people don't always win for the best reasons, in the end, its about who won, and are you hungry enough to do whatever it takes to win?Last time I checked the only stat that matters is the score.
Pittsburgh 21
Seattle 10has nothing to do with your post-game analysis, of course.Seahawks win this game. I think they should win this game easily. In fact, I think they should blow out the Steelers. I won't guarantee that. I think if the Seahawks have trouble with the 3-4 defense of the Steelers, then it turns into a close game. My system pretty much guarantees a Seahawks win tho, and I'll stand by that.
No, it's not fair to say that the refs changed the outcome, but of course it's expected that you would say that.Well it pretty much guaranteed a win, sure. Didn't happen. But its fair to say that the refs changed the outcome and to stick with my system. Both sides are being children about this super bowl. The honest truth is the refs cost the Seahawks the game but also that is NFL football and deal with it.This quoteI'm saying they won because of those calls and that it also doesn't matter because that is the way the NFL is.Sorry BGP, but to say they won the game BECAUSE of those calls is as ridiculous as someone saying they didn't have an impact on the game.Well you sound like you agree with me. It doesn't matter how someone wins. It doesn't matter if a team won because they cheated, used steroids, took cheap shots, used stickum, tear-away jerseys, sprayed a slick substance on their OL's jerseys, or even something far more mild like getting a boatload of questionable ref calls to fall in your favor. The NFL is not for whiners. While we all should be admit that people don't always win for the best reasons, in the end, its about who won, and are you hungry enough to do whatever it takes to win?Last time I checked the only stat that matters is the score.
Pittsburgh 21
Seattle 10has nothing to do with your post-game analysis, of course.Seahawks win this game. I think they should win this game easily. In fact, I think they should blow out the Steelers. I won't guarantee that. I think if the Seahawks have trouble with the 3-4 defense of the Steelers, then it turns into a close game. My system pretty much guarantees a Seahawks win tho, and I'll stand by that.
You know, you've waited a long time for the Browns to be any good. I'd love to see how you'd feel if next year, they came from out of nowhere, shocked the world and rolled all the way to a Super Bowl title. Then, when you came in here to talk about it, every post you made got responses of : "You were handed the victory," "Gift win," or "You get an asterisk." Not just threads involving the referees either. Threads where you want to talk to your fellow Steeler fans about the parade get a bunch of people posting : "Did all the fans at the parade where black and white stripes?" People posting pictures of Braylon Edwards making out with a referee. People saying your team wasn't the best team and got pushed through by a league conspiracy to have one of your players go out on top.I would LOVE to see how you'd feel if this crap was being forced down your throat all day long. We Steeler fans came here to enjoy the win, and you get dozens of people looking to cheapen and invalidate it due to their own misery or jealousy. It makes you realize what the true nature of some people is.Well it pretty much guaranteed a win, sure. Didn't happen. But its fair to say that the refs changed the outcome and to stick with my system. Both sides are being children about this super bowl. The honest truth is the refs cost the Seahawks the game but also that is NFL football and deal with it.This quoteI'm saying they won because of those calls and that it also doesn't matter because that is the way the NFL is.Sorry BGP, but to say they won the game BECAUSE of those calls is as ridiculous as someone saying they didn't have an impact on the game.Well you sound like you agree with me. It doesn't matter how someone wins. It doesn't matter if a team won because they cheated, used steroids, took cheap shots, used stickum, tear-away jerseys, sprayed a slick substance on their OL's jerseys, or even something far more mild like getting a boatload of questionable ref calls to fall in your favor. The NFL is not for whiners. While we all should be admit that people don't always win for the best reasons, in the end, its about who won, and are you hungry enough to do whatever it takes to win?Last time I checked the only stat that matters is the score.
Pittsburgh 21
Seattle 10has nothing to do with your post-game analysis, of course.Seahawks win this game. I think they should win this game easily. In fact, I think they should blow out the Steelers. I won't guarantee that. I think if the Seahawks have trouble with the 3-4 defense of the Steelers, then it turns into a close game. My system pretty much guarantees a Seahawks win tho, and I'll stand by that.
EG -Don't waste your time with this idiot. When it’s all said and done, the only bad call in my opinion was the Hasslebeck block.You know, you've waited a long time for the Browns to be any good. I'd love to see how you'd feel if next year, they came from out of nowhere, shocked the world and rolled all the way to a Super Bowl title. Then, when you came in here to talk about it, every post you made got responses of : "You were handed the victory," "Gift win," or "You get an asterisk." Not just threads involving the referees either. Threads where you want to talk to your fellow Steeler fans about the parade get a bunch of people posting : "Did all the fans at the parade where black and white stripes?" People posting pictures of Braylon Edwards making out with a referee. People saying your team wasn't the best team and got pushed through by a league conspiracy to have one of your players go out on top.I would LOVE to see how you'd feel if this crap was being forced down your throat all day long. We Steeler fans came here to enjoy the win, and you get dozens of people looking to cheapen and invalidate it due to their own misery or jealousy. It makes you realize what the true nature of some people is.Well it pretty much guaranteed a win, sure. Didn't happen. But its fair to say that the refs changed the outcome and to stick with my system. Both sides are being children about this super bowl. The honest truth is the refs cost the Seahawks the game but also that is NFL football and deal with it.This quoteI'm saying they won because of those calls and that it also doesn't matter because that is the way the NFL is.Sorry BGP, but to say they won the game BECAUSE of those calls is as ridiculous as someone saying they didn't have an impact on the game.Well you sound like you agree with me. It doesn't matter how someone wins. It doesn't matter if a team won because they cheated, used steroids, took cheap shots, used stickum, tear-away jerseys, sprayed a slick substance on their OL's jerseys, or even something far more mild like getting a boatload of questionable ref calls to fall in your favor. The NFL is not for whiners. While we all should be admit that people don't always win for the best reasons, in the end, its about who won, and are you hungry enough to do whatever it takes to win?Last time I checked the only stat that matters is the score.
Pittsburgh 21
Seattle 10has nothing to do with your post-game analysis, of course.Seahawks win this game. I think they should win this game easily. In fact, I think they should blow out the Steelers. I won't guarantee that. I think if the Seahawks have trouble with the 3-4 defense of the Steelers, then it turns into a close game. My system pretty much guarantees a Seahawks win tho, and I'll stand by that.
Didn't this "system" pick against the Steelers throughout the playoffs?This quote
has nothing to do with your post-game analysis, of course.Edited to correct quote time and date.Seahawks win this game. I think they should win this game easily. In fact, I think they should blow out the Steelers. I won't guarantee that. I think if the Seahawks have trouble with the 3-4 defense of the Steelers, then it turns into a close game. My system pretty much guarantees a Seahawks win tho, and I'll stand by that.
I really wouldn't care. If we are champs, we are champs. Just win baby.You know, you've waited a long time for the Browns to be any good. I'd love to see how you'd feel if next year, they came from out of nowhere, shocked the world and rolled all the way to a Super Bowl title. Then, when you came in here to talk about it, every post you made got responses of : "You were handed the victory," "Gift win," or "You get an asterisk." Not just threads involving the referees either. Threads where you want to talk to your fellow Steeler fans about the parade get a bunch of people posting : "Did all the fans at the parade where black and white stripes?" People posting pictures of Braylon Edwards making out with a referee. People saying your team wasn't the best team and got pushed through by a league conspiracy to have one of your players go out on top.I would LOVE to see how you'd feel if this crap was being forced down your throat all day long. We Steeler fans came here to enjoy the win, and you get dozens of people looking to cheapen and invalidate it due to their own misery or jealousy. It makes you realize what the true nature of some people is.Well it pretty much guaranteed a win, sure. Didn't happen. But its fair to say that the refs changed the outcome and to stick with my system. Both sides are being children about this super bowl. The honest truth is the refs cost the Seahawks the game but also that is NFL football and deal with it.This quoteI'm saying they won because of those calls and that it also doesn't matter because that is the way the NFL is.Sorry BGP, but to say they won the game BECAUSE of those calls is as ridiculous as someone saying they didn't have an impact on the game.Well you sound like you agree with me. It doesn't matter how someone wins. It doesn't matter if a team won because they cheated, used steroids, took cheap shots, used stickum, tear-away jerseys, sprayed a slick substance on their OL's jerseys, or even something far more mild like getting a boatload of questionable ref calls to fall in your favor. The NFL is not for whiners. While we all should be admit that people don't always win for the best reasons, in the end, its about who won, and are you hungry enough to do whatever it takes to win?Last time I checked the only stat that matters is the score.
Pittsburgh 21
Seattle 10has nothing to do with your post-game analysis, of course.Seahawks win this game. I think they should win this game easily. In fact, I think they should blow out the Steelers. I won't guarantee that. I think if the Seahawks have trouble with the 3-4 defense of the Steelers, then it turns into a close game. My system pretty much guarantees a Seahawks win tho, and I'll stand by that.
No. The system begins at the conference title game stage. At that point, the system said the Steelers certainly had a shot to beat the Broncos. It clearly said that the Seahawks were the best team left after we were down to 4. So the system, given all the indicators, is now 7-1 in that scenario in the past 15 years, and the one failure can be excluded because of the refs.Didn't this "system" pick against the Steelers throughout the playoffs?This quote
has nothing to do with your post-game analysis, of course.Edited to correct quote time and date.Seahawks win this game. I think they should win this game easily. In fact, I think they should blow out the Steelers. I won't guarantee that. I think if the Seahawks have trouble with the 3-4 defense of the Steelers, then it turns into a close game. My system pretty much guarantees a Seahawks win tho, and I'll stand by that.
Last time I checked the only stat that matters is the score.
Pittsburgh 21
Seattle 10
please shut upNo. The system begins at the conference title game stage. At that point, the system said the Steelers certainly had a shot to beat the Broncos. It clearly said that the Seahawks were the best team left after we were down to 4. So the system, given all the indicators, is now 7-1 in that scenario in the past 15 years, and the one failure can be excluded because of the refs.Didn't this "system" pick against the Steelers throughout the playoffs?This quote
has nothing to do with your post-game analysis, of course.Edited to correct quote time and date.Seahawks win this game. I think they should win this game easily. In fact, I think they should blow out the Steelers. I won't guarantee that. I think if the Seahawks have trouble with the 3-4 defense of the Steelers, then it turns into a close game. My system pretty much guarantees a Seahawks win tho, and I'll stand by that.
Your willingness to stand by your word and/or take your lumps when wrong is apparently yet another thing that is not part of your self-proclaimed "pursuit of excellence". How convenient.No. The system begins at the conference title game stage. At that point, the system said the Steelers certainly had a shot to beat the Broncos. It clearly said that the Seahawks were the best team left after we were down to 4. So the system, given all the indicators, is now 7-1 in that scenario in the past 15 years, and the one failure can be excluded because of the refs.Didn't this "system" pick against the Steelers throughout the playoffs?This quote
has nothing to do with your post-game analysis, of course.Edited to correct quote time and date.Seahawks win this game. I think they should win this game easily. In fact, I think they should blow out the Steelers. I won't guarantee that. I think if the Seahawks have trouble with the 3-4 defense of the Steelers, then it turns into a close game. My system pretty much guarantees a Seahawks win tho, and I'll stand by that.
Pitt was a few inches away from going up 21-3. So Seattle was fortunate that they were still IN the game...So I don't know how that makes it that they kicked Pitts butt. I still contend that it was Seattle's team that let them down more then the penalties. Pitt ran three plays before that last TD pass...if they hold them they probably punt. It was Seattle's defense, not the refs that allowed them a first down on a 3rd and 28 play. It was their field goal kicker that missed two FGs and it was their offense that looked horrid at the end of the first half. Blaming refs is just a cop out.More whinning. So you are leaving out all the yards called back by questionable penalities?You realize that the Steelers as a team ran for 181 yards (in basically the final 3 quarters) and converted 8-15 3rd downs, don't you? And that Roethlisberger's 1st INT was the equivalent of a punt?The scoreboard is the only thing that matters in the end and the Steelers should be a bench mark for teams in the future;
You can get your butts kicked offensively, defensively, on special teams and in the turnover battle yet still win the game.
And that the entire difference in total yardage was the 57 yards Seattle gained on their final drive even after the Steelers failed to get a 1st down in the 1st quarter?
Neither team played well, and the game was far from dominated by anyone.
So if we count Roethlisberger's first int as a punt, do we count Hasselbeck's int as a punt too?
The game I saw clearly had a better team on the field. But like I said earlier, the scoreboard is the only thing that matters, even if a team does gets it's butt kicked.